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On April 07 2008 17:04 Scorch wrote: I'd like to emphasize this once more: We have the following certain information: EITHER one out of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia, OR two out of - Chezinu - useLess - aZnvaLiaNce - fusionsdf are mafia. From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia. At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys! My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling. It's nice of you to consider my conclusions and all, but this is not correct any more! I thought I had already made it clear that my list was based on the list of "confirmed" innocents, which turned out to be fake. We can thus ignore the list of innocents, which adds ~OpZ~ to the picture. It is therefore now: (Exactly one out of imDerek | Evilmonkey | Alventenie) OR (Exactly one out of | ||
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On April 11 2008 14:17 Ace wrote: Ok here's what we know about last night for sure - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POST Mafia Kill List for Night 4 1.)Hittegods 2.)xDark.Carnivalx 3.)Lenwe (protected once) - Medic #1 4.)Lenwe 5.)Caller 6.)Meta All of these were legit - now here's something interesting. 7.) Plexa (protected) Medic2 8.)Plexa (protected) Medic3 9.) Plexa (protected again) Medic4 (not confirmed yet) 10.) Jack (I told him to put vet status on) took 1 hit 11.) Jack (protected) Medic 5 or 10 +11 is true. Either way something is wrong. This is all based on the Night Kills + info I got from medics and the Jack. As you can see, something does NOT add up. How could Plexa be protected 3 times and the Jack get hit as a vet and saved? Plexa how many hits were you informed about taking last night? I find this to be very relevant. The Jack already forged a list of "innocent" townies. Now he is involved in this conflicting case. I trust Plexa much much more than someone who claimed a role, has access to a list of rolled people who are now dead, forged an incorrect list of innocents, and now is involved in an incident of conflicting numbers. What, the medic protecting the Jack would have to be lying too? No problem! There is an impostor among the medics, which is why we lynched Doesn't all of this add up wonderfully? Unless I overlooked something grave - Ace, I demand you publish the Jack's name for us to lynch him. If the Jack is mafia, as I suspect, we catch the lying medic as well. | ||
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On April 11 2008 17:15 Scorch wrote: !!! IMPORTANT !!! It's nice of you to consider my conclusions and all, but this is not correct any more! I thought I had already made it clear that my list was based on the list of "confirmed" innocents, which turned out to be fake. We can thus ignore the list of innocents, which adds ~OpZ~ to the picture. It is therefore now: (Exactly one out of imDerek | OR (Exactly one out of Since Evilmonkey is revealed mafia, that means that
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On April 12 2008 18:29 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Now, the question: What's next? What list do we follow now? We won't get any new lists because all detectives are dead and the single "real" Jack is probably inactive. This means we'll have to rely on clues and profiling almost exclusively. Let's see what new information the day post brings. | ||
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On April 12 2008 23:00 MTF wrote: L led the way against Ghar, but it was a seemingly good clue. Eti307 supported him quite a bit and at the same time pointed the finger at ShadowDrgn. D.arkive also posted not too much later in support of L's finding, though this still does not prove L is guilty. Plexa needs to tell us who sent him + Show Spoiler [this message.] + Original Message: hi! i just read your latest post. i'd like to direct your attention towards ghar's signature, which you seem to have left out of your reasoning: "All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time." this is a quote by some reckless general whose troops are surrounded by enemies, but who still remains positive and not afraid of losing. now when you connect this to mr. pink's traits... Traits - Seems to be well composed - Not phased by death, (necessary change?) - Able fighter (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) ... i think this fits the second and third trait quite well. the general isn't afraid of dying, even though outnumbered. and, as a professional soldier, he is a good fighter as well. furthermore, as SoMuchBetter said, Ghar is currently inactive due to a martial arts appointment. i have no idea if Chuiu knew this and would use this as a hint, but Ghar being a fighter himself would fit Mr.Pink's third character trait perfectly. and say what you will, but the picture of him holding the scalp of a chopped-off head fits just too well. Whoever it was, they were dedicated to Ghar taking the fall. Looking into others... That PM came from me. It appears you think that makes me mafia. It does not. First, read again what I wrote and tell me what of that is complete made-up bullshit. With the knowledge we had at that point, I think it all made sense. I just wrote what I thought was the truth. Second, had I wanted to start a bandwagon, I would've posted this in the thread instead of in a PM. I posted this privately because I wanted Plexa's opinion on my thoughts. Third, you'll have to admint that there really was a lot of plausible evidence against Ghar (especially that picture), which made 30 people believe he was guilty. I was not the only one who thought he was mafia. | ||
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We'll see if we get a 46 in the next day post. I doubt it. But if we do, I take everything back and you can feel free to lynch #40. | ||
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You'll have to admit that what you found isn't exactly the most straightforward of clues, and that it might only be a coincidence. So don't be surprised and angry if people doubt you. | ||
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On April 15 2008 22:07 MTF wrote: Iii don't get how it [...] is a coincidence. o_O Chuiu could have taken arbitrary/meaningless numbers which were possibly never meant to be added, and add up to a similar result only by chance. Or the numbers could be connected to something else entirely. An unintentional red herring if you will. Help me out here: - Only & all of the numeric words in those days that Cottonmouth was present. - A close sum total for both days, with a minimal difference between them. - They both meet at a single total when the days number they are on is subtracted from them. I had already understood before how you got your results, thank you. What exactly is missing to convince you and why would the next time convince you if two separate occurrences don't? As I said twice already, I'm waiting for a 46 tomorrow. Why? First, because the larger sample size would make it that much less likely that it's all a coincidence (especially because our discussion warns Chuiu not to make that unintentional mistake again, if it was one). Second, because you would then have made a correct prediction, proving your theory right. Two occurences would be enough for me if they added up to the same number, but we need to include an additional variable (the day count), making it all more complicated and unsure. EDIT: This case became true just while I was typing. #44 (str) is thus a strong suspect for me. I think we've used up our actions for the night, so we can wait for the day post anyway to confirm the suspicion. --- By the way, you would appear much more credible and serious if you wouldn't absolutely rule out that maybe, just maybe, you might not know the answer to everything. | ||
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Why would Heros)Pink be mafia? Could you elaborate? Some wild accusations from me: - Hollander as Enigma for various weak links to his picture: introducing himself politely like a man in a smoking would do, grinning back, ugly face etc. - LTT as Mr.Brown: he cannot be understood because he comes from Shakuras. - clazziquai the same: he from kiribati, he no speak english. He was already suspected for this. Note though that Mr.Brown does speak English in one clue, so maybe this is the wrong route to go. - RowdierBob as some mafia attacking in close combat. He is a rowdy/street brawler, and his profile pic makes him look quite sadistic. - infinity21 as Cottonmouth. His name contains a number, and infinity is also strongly related to numbers. Don't take these too seriously, but maybe someone finds further evidence pointing towards these guys. All of them are fairly inactive in the thread, so they might be lurking mafiosi. | ||
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On April 16 2008 16:44 MTF wrote: Let's note that we only have 20 mafia names, dead or alive. Seeing as d.arkive (the suicide bomber) has been tied to Taipan Snake, this suggests that the special Mafia roles get a character as well. Thus, the overall number of names should be at 22: 20 Mafia, 1 suicide bomber, and 1 saboteur. This is apparently not so, which leads me to believe that the remaining two mafia can only be found by examining key words in the Day posts. Look at the OP. There are only 20 mafias total: one suicider, one saboteur and 18 without abilities. Non-townies are related 1:1 to those codenames. Btw, if you admit yourself that your clue against me is far-fetched, at least write it in italics  | ||
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On April 13 2008 22:54 Plexa wrote: by the way, my team of expert detectives have uncovered a interesting fact Either MidnightGladius is Mafia or MTF is mafia Is this still true? What's the reasoning for this? Should we vote to lynch MTF? | ||
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Mafia started out with 20 criminals out of a total population of 130 = 15.4% Now it is 15/92 = 16.3% Since the mafia's goal is to get over 50%, it is safe to say that the town is at a numeric advantage at the moment, having prevented the bad guys from greatly shifting the proportion in their favor. Now this is causing me headaches: On March 13 2008 13:58 Chuiu wrote: Mayor is elected. (4 double lynches remaining, voting power of 6) Pardoner is elected. (6 pardons remaining) 2 of 6 Bodyguards alive. 3 of 4 Vigilante alive. 0 of 4 Detective alive. 7 of 7 Veteran alive. 4 of 7 Paramedic alive. 0 of 2 Mad Hatter alive. 0 of 2 Jack alive. Mafia are killing off one special role after the other, leaving us with no detective abilities at all. While more and more vague clues are being revealed, really hard evidence will be hard to come by in the future. There are only 4 medics left, one of which is likely inactive and replaced by an impostor. Most vigilante kills have been used up. In short: it will be damn hard for us to keep our momentum with few extra kills, no detective information and little medic protection. | ||
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A dragoon specifically uses guns though: Dragoon is the traditional name for a soldier trained to fight on foot but who transports himself on horseback, in use especially during the late 17th and early 18th centuries. The name derives probably from the dragoon's primary weapon, a carbine or short musket called the dragon. Dragon carbines are said to have been named because, like the creature of myth, they "breathed fire" — a reference to the flames carbines emitted when fired. While Mr.Brown pulls a gun out of his coat at Fishball's, which fits perfectly, he then proceeds to beat him to death instead. BloodyC0bbler is killed with a sharp stone. Both kills don't really match a dragoon. Not to say this is a bad connection, but a dragoon prefers other methods of killing. crazie-penguin convinves me more at the moment, so I'll vote for him. | ||
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On April 17 2008 22:16 Plexa wrote: Another mafia bites the dust; + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. In the first set of clues, Mr Black prevents harm to Copperhead and in effect controls all the damage that JeeJee is able to inflict (note the highlighted passage). In the second set of clues Mr Black talks about "risk" and how Decaf is too much of a risk to stay alive Now, this all coincides nicely with a certain name: DamageControl, join your buddies in mafia hell Just read that passage again and again and keep damagecontrol in your mind and you'll see that the connection is obvious  Ya, that works nicely. DamageControL specified no other information in his profile, so we can only look at his name. And this could be just the kind of clue Chuiu would make. Dr.Dragoon, crazie-penguin and L are all even more suspicios to me, but it never hurts to have more lynch victims Good work again, Plexa! | ||
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On April 17 2008 22:56 Plexa wrote: Okay, it just keeps on coming... Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot. Enigma ran his hand through his hair... Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he... Empyrean noted the features of the man.. ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/userfiles/34128.jpg?1205434458) Hello spoinka Meh. Weak methinks. | ||
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Not that I'd have a better candidate at hand, but I won't lynch someone only because he looks weird in his profile picture. Agree? | ||
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http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SoMuchBetter http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=RtS)Night[Mare http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SonuvBob http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=iNfuNdiBuLuM http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hollander I can see where you're coming from, but for me, personally, it isn't convincing enough. Why would Chuiu make so many different/distracting/inconsistent clues for spoinka? --- By the way, look at what I stumbled upon: ![[image loading]](http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9612/motivator690178nc0.jpg) If Enigma calls his friends "pretty cool guys" (exactly same wording!), does this represent a clue against our pardoner, randombum? Could easily be a coincidence of course, "pretty cool guys" is the standard phrase almost everyone would use to describe his friends. | ||
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