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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 08:56:06
April 04 2008 08:54 GMT
#3680
building upon what aarav has said, there is only one tenuous clue linking him to mafia and i for one cannot stand by it as hard evidence. Until i see more, in my eyes aarav is green.

For now lets focus on killing more mafia and get this kill count down! Let's check out d.arkive, fanatacist and SMB where we've got one good link to them
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Plexa
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 09:57:46
April 04 2008 09:35 GMT
#3683
On April 04 2008 18:11 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 14:19 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
im going with plexas rather than scorch's. His analysis is way more detailed and usually has a pretty good aim at hitting mafias

that's ok by me. my clue interpretations weren't meant to be in-depth. i had hoped an overlap would occur between my stuff and plexa's, but it didn't. so i will go with plexa's find of d.arkive. i'm not fully convinced, but it looks like a nice plausible link, a connection that chuiu would likely build into the clues. thanks for your work plexa!
I respect your analysis Scorch, he porbably doesn't like it because he is a suspect under your analysis !

Here is my take on your clues

+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
+ Show Spoiler [The Wolf] +
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.

The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.
Traits
- One shot kill
- targets the head

Scorch's analysis
Candidates for The Wolf:
SoMuchBetter because The Wolf does the nail throwing "so much better" than the other mafia. Medium clue.

- This is an interesting link, but it only corresponds to the most recent nights activity. The first night he seems almost remorseful when he kills Chuiu with no hint of him doing anything better. Perhaps you could make a case for 'leaving his mark' being a cocky thing to do, but i dno.

suresh0t because The Wolf kills with one sure shot. Medium clue.

- Fair enough, would correspond nicely with the first night too as it was exactly one shot to the head and he was dead. Nails could possibly correspond to his picture. He would be my other pick for the wolf

HotZhot for the same reason, HotShot being the same as a SureShot. Medium clue.

- We have overlap here. Less confident about this connection due to the similarity between his picture and the image of a wolf therefore not likely to be the wolf.

LostYourSkills' signature indicates that he is very skilled, like The Wolf. Medium clue.

- I can see the connection here, but it doesn't exactly line up with the first days clue. More evidence is needed before we can do anything with this.

+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
+ Show Spoiler [Cottonmouth] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm.

NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.

He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him.

Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104
Traits
- Throws sharp objects (knives/nails)
- Delays killing for a long time
- Notice the repetition of numbers;
2-4-3-3-5-6-1
What could this sequence be alluding to?

Scorch's analysis
RtS)Night[Mare could be Cottonmouth placing 5 nails, then stabbing him with 6 more. Nightmare was born on the 5th of June(6). Very weak clue, but maybe smart and obscure enough to be a strong clue? There are a couple more possible combinations of numbers in this paragraph, this was just the one i stumbled upon.

- I saw Nightmare's as well and thought similar thoughts. The recurring theme of numbers is somewhat interesting. However, i beleive fanatacist pertains stronger to the clue of numbers.

ulszz's signature indicates that he is a noob (at throwing nails) and needs reminding (by The Wolf), so he could be Cottonmouth. Medium clue.

- Cottonmouth knows what he is doing i think. He purposely tortures his victims - although i might be wrong.

Eti307's could be Cottonmouth. signature: "A person who never made a mistake (missing a lot of nail throws) never tried anyething new (trying to kill someone with nails)". Plus the numbers could point at his name: stabbing the victim with 1+6=7 nails, then throwing 3 more, 0 of which hit the target. Medium clue plus a weak one.

- he was used last game and has little content left to use. There would be a time clue imo not this clue

LostYourSkills could be Cottonmouth, having lost all his nail throwing skills and thus missing thrice. Medium clue.

- As before, i beleive Cottonmouth to be highly skilled, i may be proven wrong, but as it stands hes skillful - but sadistic

suresh0t could be Cottonmouth using nails because he wields a hammer in his profile pic. who else would kill with nails? Strong clue.

- Disagree here, this only pertains to last nights kills not the first round of clues (knives). Therefore i doubt any connection here

+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
+ Show Spoiler [Taipan Snake] +
parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.

They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device

Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though.

Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean.
Traits
- Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons)
-> Used broken glass recently
-> Used a taser like device
- Electronics connection
-> Thematic disabling of electronics
-> Thematic use of electricity (DC?)

Scorch's analysis
str could be Taipan Snake grilling his prey with electrical power. Weak clue.

- str was a suspect before last nights clue. The no power clue is really lame considering 3 nights haven't actually had the power cut

Zeks could be Taipan Snake. His signature reminds me of an unresponsible policeman abusing his power to kill a guy with a tazer (with electrical power). Medium clue.

- There is no real concrete evidence here. This great responsibility quote has me thinking he's more suited to enigma than Taipan.

HotZhot could be Taipan Snake, "frying" Empyrean with the great heat signaled by HotZhot's name. Weak clue.

- Only pertains to last night, not all 4 nights

Energies' name relates to the tazer gun. Medium to strong clue, but maybe too obvious.

- Energies has too many clues against him for it to be true. This may seem like a contradiction - but look at Ghar and shadowdrgn who had multiple strong clues linking to them whereas Queasy had one clue only and he was mafia. Energies has wayyy too many clues against him for him to be mafia. Theres the energy connection, the australian connection etc which is too strong. Lynching him will be fruitless and i am 100% sure of this fact

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.
Traits
- Righteous
- Eager to to what he sees is right
--- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread

Scorch's analysis
HotZhot could be Enigma smiling back, according to his signature. Weak clue.

- Pertains only to last night, doesn't consider the character of Enigma as a whole

Caller could be Enigma "calling" his friends over to help him. Weak clue.

- Again, only pertains to the most recent events not the grand scheme

Unfogiven_ve could be smiling Enigma due to his smilie signature. Weak clue.

- As above

KorvspaD could be Enigma being fond of his friends (signature: "a friend with weed is a friend indeed..."). Medium clue.

- As above

BuGzIToOnI could be Enigma who loves his friends because of his signature. Weak clue.

- As above

Note, when looking for clues pertaining to Enigma you need to consider his whole character, which at the moment is rather enigmatic. I think MTF is a much stronger clue here, but then again ned more evidence to make a call on enigma
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:09 GMT
#3687
On April 04 2008 19:06 araav wrote:
suresh0t seems a real suspect as of now
any particular reason?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:33 GMT
#3689
On April 04 2008 19:23 araav wrote:
reasons from your list - hammer, super shot
personally i beleive he is Mr Orange
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:45 GMT
#3691
so yea that brings the suspect list to:

d.arkive
suresh0t
Hotzhot
SoMuchBetter
MTF
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:53 GMT
#3693
On April 04 2008 19:49 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 19:45 Plexa wrote:
so yea that brings the suspect list to:

d.arkive
suresh0t
Hotzhot
SoMuchBetter
MTF

i would even agree with this exact order you rock plexa.
Awesome!

Ace, your move
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 11:40 GMT
#3696
On April 04 2008 20:30 araav wrote:
btw, do not wait Ace.
He may be somewhat humiliated after these failures, if he's a townie of course.

I wonder who of the detectives checked him

For the next game I propose adding the ability for the dead people to post one message after they die.

Or better - before the day lights - before anyone knows they are dead - they may send their will - any text - to Chuiu. If the person dies Chuiu publishes the dead person's will (in OP or special blog).
Why don't they just pm it to Ace?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 05 2008 10:44 GMT
#3750
fusion, last game you were so active in your pms to me with your suspects and so on

why no analysis this game?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 05 2008 14:20 GMT
#3752
On April 05 2008 23:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2008 19:44 Plexa wrote:
fusion, last game you were so active in your pms to me with your suspects and so on

why no analysis this game?

Well I'm suspecting Fusindf of being a mafioso since the begining, he's even in the list of suspect I had sent to Showtime! before he was killed. But i was suspecting him not on clues but by his play (feeling)
I have to agree with you pink, fusionsdf has lacked the traits he showed in the last round of mafia (even though he wasn't even in the game). Although i am having trouble sticking him to a character (there are a number of possibilities) but that being said, theres enough to warrant some kind of lynch here
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 05 2008 14:26 GMT
#3754
ace is roleblocked afaik
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 05 2008 14:44 GMT
#3756
On April 05 2008 03:52 Ace wrote:
hmm ok. Chew on this for a while:

Empyrean was roleblocked yesterday.
I'm roleblocked today.

p186
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-06 05:54:42
April 06 2008 02:45 GMT
#3770
On April 06 2008 10:25 nemY wrote:
Plexa, while I like your analysis and observations, your clue linking to me seems waaaaaaaay too weak/far-fetched !
how so?

take a look at the clue linking to Quesadila last game, it was his picture of "Real men proxy" which linked to his strength - hows that for stretching it
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 06 2008 05:54 GMT
#3774
On April 06 2008 12:04 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2008 11:45 Plexa wrote:
On April 06 2008 10:25 nemY wrote:
Plexa, while I like your analysis and observations, your clue linking to me seems waaaaaaaay too weak/far-fetched !
how so?

take a look at the clue linking to Romance last game, it was his picture of "Real men proxy" which linked to his strength - hows that for stretching it


That was linking to Quesadilla, actually :p
oops yes corrected
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 07 2008 03:17 GMT
#3801
On April 07 2008 04:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I believe LostYourSkills to be Mafia, along with Energies, and I still suspect Ninja4Ever. I'm still in doubt as to whether the specific names refer to specific people. I suspect BlindAlbino too, but as I don't think there has been anything relating to being blind, except the darkness of the house in day 2 when Mynock went into the room with the lamp off...(edit) Mr. Blonde was also the one in the dark room, blonde = albino, dark room = blind...

I

I highly suspect Blind Albino...

Around now is when the Mafia should be speaking more, and he has been posting more....
Codename =/= Clue
Reasoning falls to pieces after that
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 07 2008 03:52 GMT
#3807
yea go me! only person voting SMB
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 07 2008 05:58 GMT
#3815
i resent that "lost" statement chuiu!
tomorrow we will see red flow!
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 07 2008 06:21 GMT
#3822
On April 07 2008 15:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2008 12:17 Plexa wrote:
On April 07 2008 04:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I believe LostYourSkills to be Mafia, along with Energies, and I still suspect Ninja4Ever. I'm still in doubt as to whether the specific names refer to specific people. I suspect BlindAlbino too, but as I don't think there has been anything relating to being blind, except the darkness of the house in day 2 when Mynock went into the room with the lamp off...(edit) Mr. Blonde was also the one in the dark room, blonde = albino, dark room = blind...

I

I highly suspect Blind Albino...

Around now is when the Mafia should be speaking more, and he has been posting more....
Codename =/= Clue
Reasoning falls to pieces after that


That's implying the code names have nothing to do with the person and that it's the same person every time for each code name. And how did he come up with the code names for each person...
Names are from movies (Quentin muvies, kill bill and reservoir dogs iirc)

And yes, each person is one mafia 99% sure (see Queasy -> sidewinder clues)
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 08 2008 07:15 GMT
#3872
On April 08 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote:
eh?

isnt mandalor mr blue?
yes
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 08 2008 07:56 GMT
#3875

Trancestorm (13)
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MTF
BloodyC0bbler
Meta
rpf
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bumatlarge
smurfingchobo
MidnightGladius
Lenwe
unsoundlogic
Hittegods
GranDim
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 10 2008 11:41 GMT
#3988
ROFL SUP MOTHERFUCKERS
D.ARKIVE WAS MAFIA OMYGOD IM GOOD?

yo town, im on to some serious shit ya know what im saying?!

i got hit, TWICE and lived

motherfuckers

die you mafia scum shit fuck

double lynch time to mop the floor ok
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