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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 17 2008 13:39 GMT
#4781
On April 17 2008 22:16 Plexa wrote:
Another mafia bites the dust;
+ Show Spoiler +
Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now.

Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.

In the first set of clues, Mr Black prevents harm to Copperhead and in effect controls all the damage that JeeJee is able to inflict (note the highlighted passage).
In the second set of clues Mr Black talks about "risk" and how Decaf is too much of a risk to stay alive

Now, this all coincides nicely with a certain name: DamageControl, join your buddies in mafia hell

Just read that passage again and again and keep damagecontrol in your mind and you'll see that the connection is obvious

Ya, that works nicely. DamageControL specified no other information in his profile, so we can only look at his name. And this could be just the kind of clue Chuiu would make. Dr.Dragoon, crazie-penguin and L are all even more suspicios to me, but it never hurts to have more lynch victims Good work again, Plexa!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 13:51 GMT
#4782
dont miss out on the Mr Red expose at the bottom of pg 239
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-17 14:18:35
April 17 2008 13:56 GMT
#4783
Okay, it just keeps on coming...

Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot.

Enigma ran his hand through his hair...

Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he...

Empyrean noted the features of the man..


[image loading]


Hello spoinka
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 17 2008 14:26 GMT
#4784
On April 17 2008 22:56 Plexa wrote:
Okay, it just keeps on coming...

Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot.

Enigma ran his hand through his hair...

Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he...

Empyrean noted the features of the man..


[image loading]


Hello spoinka

Meh. Weak methinks.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 17 2008 14:30 GMT
#4785
On April 17 2008 17:12 Ace wrote:
@qrs: there's so much I have to take care of behind the scenes you've got no idea why things keep going wrong. I've literally had over 100 PMs about all kinds of stuff this game and it's not easy trying to decipher the liars from the innocent. Either way everything I've done so far has brought the town closer to victory. What exactly have you done besides criticize from day 1?
OK, maybe. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes and I don't know whether everything you've done so far has brought the town closer to victory, so I'm not commenting on that. All I see is the final results, and based on those so far, I'm not ready to vote for someone just on your say-so. If L turns out to be Mafia, I'll get behind you again. If he turns out to be townie, I'll be that bit more skeptical of you. So we'll see.

People are saying that L is a suspect for other reasons. Can anyone summarize them for me, please?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-17 14:52:27
April 17 2008 14:38 GMT
#4786
On April 17 2008 23:26 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2008 22:56 Plexa wrote:
Okay, it just keeps on coming...

Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot.

Enigma ran his hand through his hair...

Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he...

Empyrean noted the features of the man..


[image loading]


Hello spoinka

Meh. Weak methinks.
Howso?
It's actually quite a strong clue, as it also looks as if spoinka is charging at someone - another trait of enigma's

+ Show Spoiler [Enigma] +
Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".

Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground.

he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him.

Read through that and tell me that that image does not correlate to Enigma? remember clues come from one section of a profile only therefore any picture links may seem dubious but are actually valid

There is also some additional information that i can't reveal as well
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
April 17 2008 14:47 GMT
#4787
Can someone please tell me what unforgivens' rabbit is doing? Giving the finger or thumbs up?
sAviOr...
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 17 2008 15:05 GMT
#4788
He has an ugly look on his face that can possibly even be interpreted as the look while charging, but that's about it. I can't see anything relating to Enigma running his hand through his hair (you don't even see spoinka's hair on his pic), exclaiming meaningful sentences, writing down notes, his friends, or holding someone to the ground. I don't believe all of these traits are there purely for storytelling purposes. At least a couple of them are connected to the player we are searching for, and spoinka doesn't fit that profile.
Not that I'd have a better candidate at hand, but I won't lynch someone only because he looks weird in his profile picture. Agree?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 15:10 GMT
#4789
On April 18 2008 00:05 Scorch wrote:
He has an ugly look on his face that can possibly even be interpreted as the look while charging, but that's about it. I can't see anything relating to Enigma running his hand through his hair (you don't even see spoinka's hair on his pic), exclaiming meaningful sentences, writing down notes, his friends, or holding someone to the ground. I don't believe all of these traits are there purely for storytelling purposes. At least a couple of them are connected to the player we are searching for, and spoinka doesn't fit that profile.
Not that I'd have a better candidate at hand, but I won't lynch someone only because he looks weird in his profile picture. Agree?
There is no consistency in enigma's profile except his appearance. Feel free to find any other recurring theme within him and go from there but trust me, the ugliness and his appearance is his defining trait. His epic speech? happened once... writing down notes? happened once... his friends? happened once... holding someone to the ground? links to the charging side of things my friend and is a recurring theme of enigma's

Feel free to show me where i have gone wrong, but everything is coming up spoinka for me. Just because its a simple image don't let the seeming 'lack of evidence' fool you from seeing a mafia..
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
April 17 2008 15:14 GMT
#4790
On April 17 2008 22:39 Plexa wrote:
just oh my fucking god, Mr Red has been unveiled...

Just oh my god...

Look at all the stuff that in that spoiler and thus we arrive at the conclusion that Mr Red was EvilMonkey

Rofl we suck


Well.....at the very least one of the nightmarishly headache-bringing characters is gone.

Also, I agree with DamageControL as Mr. Black (feel about as strongly about that as I do about Mr. White - ieatkids5 connection) and if L comes up innocent, I'll consider spoinka a strong replacement for Enigma.


On April 17 2008 23:30 qrs wrote:
People are saying that L is a suspect for other reasons. Can anyone summarize them for me, please?


1. L was asked to protect decafchicken on Night 5.

2.
created L as a "force of justice"


why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".


3.
L Lawliet (エル・ローライト, Eru Rōraito?), commonly referred to by his alias "L" (エル, Eru?), is a fictional character in the manga and anime series Death Note. He is considered the world's greatest detective,


noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off.


4.
Obata believes that the design evokes "a feeling of mystery" and that the reader cannot determine L's true thoughts.


5.
Obata asked Ohba if L could be "unattractive."


- As well as many other specific physical references to his creation here.

Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day.


Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground



On April 17 2008 23:47 Camlito wrote:
Can someone please tell me what unforgivens' rabbit is doing? Giving the finger or thumbs up?


He's giving the thumbs up - notice the only other finger to show up on either hand looks to be what would be the index finger on both hands, both curved inward like he's making sideways fists. Because of that, I suspect him of being Joe for the recent thumbs up reference and generally supportive nature of the character.
Think. :)
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 15:22 GMT
#4791
Okay, my associate stumbled upon the following find for mr blonde

+ Show Spoiler +
He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground.

He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead.

With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.

He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot.

Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look.

"Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building.

They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground.

There are soo many references to Mr Blonde being agile and appearing from no where, yet at the same time a rather strong figure... See the highlighted passages for evidential proof

Obviously, there is only one thing that is both nimble and powerful and that is a Ninja, thus i present to you Ninja4eva. as Mr Blonde
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-17 15:32:58
April 17 2008 15:30 GMT
#4792
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2008 00:14 MTF wrote:
On April 17 2008 23:30 qrs wrote:
People are saying that L is a suspect for other reasons. Can anyone summarize them for me, please?


1. L was asked to protect decafchicken on Night 5.

2.
created L as a "force of justice"


why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".


3.
L Lawliet (エル・ローライト, Eru Rōraito?), commonly referred to by his alias "L" (エル, Eru?), is a fictional character in the manga and anime series Death Note. He is considered the world's greatest detective,


noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off.


4.
Obata believes that the design evokes "a feeling of mystery" and that the reader cannot determine L's true thoughts.


5.
Obata asked Ohba if L could be "unattractive."


- As well as many other specific physical references to his creation here.

Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day.


Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground
Thanks. My thoughts on those clues:
1) Not that strong: for all we know, L did protect decaf, but it's something.
2) OK.
3) weakish.
4) OK.
5) Don't think this one is a clue: L wasn't drawn as unattractive in the end, and there isn't so much evidence that Enigma is unattractive.
Overall the evidence seems fairly good, though, although I still like suresh0t better. Thanks for clarifying.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 17 2008 15:31 GMT
#4793
qrs who do you feel is the stronger suspect then?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-17 15:38:27
April 17 2008 15:37 GMT
#4794
On April 18 2008 00:30 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2008 00:14 MTF wrote:
On April 17 2008 23:30 qrs wrote:
People are saying that L is a suspect for other reasons. Can anyone summarize them for me, please?


1. L was asked to protect decafchicken on Night 5.

2.
created L as a "force of justice"


why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can".


3.
L Lawliet (エル・ローライト, Eru Rōraito?), commonly referred to by his alias "L" (エル, Eru?), is a fictional character in the manga and anime series Death Note. He is considered the world's greatest detective,


noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off.


4.
Obata believes that the design evokes "a feeling of mystery" and that the reader cannot determine L's true thoughts.


5.
Obata asked Ohba if L could be "unattractive."


- As well as many other specific physical references to his creation here.

Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day.


Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground
Thanks. My thoughts on those clues:
1) Not that strong: for all we know, L did protect decaf, but it's something.
2) OK.
3) weakish.
4) OK.
5) Don't think this one is a clue: L wasn't drawn as unattractive in the end, and there isn't so much evidence that Enigma is unattractive.
Overall the evidence seems fairly good, though, although I still like suresh0t better. Thanks for clarifying.


how the fuck is sureshot enigma again?

because so far hes like 4 people lol.
sAviOr...
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 17 2008 15:39 GMT
#4795
On April 18 2008 00:31 Plexa wrote:
qrs who do you feel is the stronger suspect then?

They both seem pretty strong to me. suresh0t seems to have more things pointing directly to details of his profile, whereas with L it's more of an overall reference to the character L: enigmatic, concerned about justice, possible connection to a detective (hmm, it just occurred to me that the note could be a reference to "death note", too). I favor suresh0t slightly, but L would likely be my second choice. The only other issue is that he may be a medic. I guess we need to trust Ace to handle that end of things.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 17 2008 15:40 GMT
#4796
On April 18 2008 00:37 Camlito wrote:
how the fuck is sureshot enigma again?

because so far hes like 4 people lol.
The Wolf. One person.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
April 17 2008 15:43 GMT
#4797
Plexa brought my attention to an earlier link I'd drawn between jtan and Eddie, and upon further inspection, all of this crops up:


jtan as Eddie:
[spoiler=Reasoning]
- His profile picture is of M&M microing against lurkers, aka, fire and retreat, which Eddie has references to/is nearby one other reference to.

Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat.


retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe,


when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly.


- Some possible M&M references through needing help/back-up/having friends.

With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.


Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help"


- A stretch that entertains me:

Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031


Maybe a reference to the Marine's famous saying, "You wanna piece of me, boy?"
Think. :)
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 17 2008 15:44 GMT
#4798
If a remarkable appearance/look is all it takes to be Enigma, that criterion is fulfilled by a lot of people:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SoMuchBetter
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=RtS)Night[Mare
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SonuvBob
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=iNfuNdiBuLuM
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hollander
I can see where you're coming from, but for me, personally, it isn't convincing enough. Why would Chuiu make so many different/distracting/inconsistent clues for spoinka?

---

By the way, look at what I stumbled upon:
[image loading]
If Enigma calls his friends "pretty cool guys" (exactly same wording!), does this represent a clue against our pardoner, randombum? Could easily be a coincidence of course, "pretty cool guys" is the standard phrase almost everyone would use to describe his friends.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
April 17 2008 15:49 GMT
#4799
Hey....Chuiu how is the kidney stone man?

The corn tea work any?

Hope its better....Let us know...we all appreciate what you are doing, even though we don't say that much =P
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-17 15:52:42
April 17 2008 15:49 GMT
#4800
On April 18 2008 00:44 Scorch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

By the way, look at what I stumbled upon:
[image loading]
If Enigma calls his friends "pretty cool guys" (exactly same wording!), does this represent a clue against our pardoner, randombum? Could easily be a coincidence of course, "pretty cool guys" is the standard phrase almost everyone would use to describe his friends.


In the past I've stated a few times suspicions against randombum because of "the right mayor" being mentioned (started his campaign way before Day 1 came), and that several known Mafia switched their votes to him at the last moment.

I'm still suspicious and this just adds to that, but we definitely need more clues before we go after him.

Edit: And yes, Chuiu does an amazing job. <3

Edit 2: mebbe, sorta need more clues to go after him. I dunno, the fact that Chuiu left him out from Day 1 - Day 6 still tells me that the "right mayor" clue was pretty major, enough for Chuiu to maybe be scared of making any more direct clues aimed at Blue for awhile.
Think. :)
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