On March 23 2008 07:11 Wysp wrote:
Are we sure Ace isn't Mafia? If someone could link me to a page that explains why he isn't that would be great.

he is clean almost certainly. part of his strategic plan was to have all detectives check his role, and if noone would stand up denouncing him, he could be considered townie. it's been quite some time already and noone claimed to have spied on ace and found him mafia. i'm about 90% convinced of Ace's innocence at the moment.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 23 2008 09:52 GMT

#2085

i will not retract my vote for Ghar yet. i'm 80% convinced of his guilt, and even if he's inactive, it's still a mafia kill. my vote will remain until Ace rationally convinces me of a better target and explains to me his reasoning. post or PM me your strategic plan and i may comply. i trust and support you, but not blindly.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 23 2008 11:12 GMT

#2089

On March 23 2008 12:33 Ace wrote:

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I'm asking everyone retract votes because when the suspect is confirmed, I want everyone to vote the exact same.

And I don't want Ghar to be even near the chopping block and get lynched because people "forgot to sign on in time to change their vote".

do i interpret this correctly? you have a detective confirming someone's guilt? and you believe Ghar is innocent? then what prevents you from telling us right away who we should lynch?

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 23 2008 13:41 GMT

#2104

i don't think Ghar being unavailable for the night vote is relevant. he would certainly value his real-life appointments higher than this game anyway, mafia or not. or maybe i misunderstand something.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 23 2008 21:42 GMT

#2213

i really hope Mandalor is your renegade detective, not just inactive. it's a high risk you are taking, Ace. i will vote for mandalor anyway.

edit: it seems mandalor's guilt was confirmed while i was typing. disregard my post then.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 23 2008 21:51 GMT

#2226

by the way, in Chuiu's latest tally, Ace's vote for Mandalor only counts for a single vote instead of six. this confirms that Ace told the truth and was indeed roleblocked.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 23 2008 22:05 GMT

#2239

On March 24 2008 07:04 GeneralStan wrote:
How can we even be sure Ace isn't mafia?

how often does this question need to be answered? no detective stood up against him after checking his role, so he is 98% innocent.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 23 2008 22:47 GMT

#2253

On March 24 2008 07:37 French_Toast wrote:
Speaking of which, why do we have to lynch people. Instead of voting only for the person we should also vote for that way we kill them. We could maybe shoot them in the head, inject them with some crap, chop their head off with a guillotine... etc. Night posts would be so much more interesting if we had a creative way of killing people.

i demand the traitor be crunched to death by a rabid horde of naked fat women :D

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 23 2008 23:50 GMT

#2274

don't go after pink and toast for the sole reason of them acting like dicks. we have no hard convincing evidence at hand against either of the two (yet). i'd rather kill mafias than annoying townies.
i'd send a vigilante after ghar and then wait for the next clues.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 24 2008 00:24 GMT

#2292

i don't think it's necessary to construct any more far-fetched clues against ghar. we have serious evidence against him already.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 24 2008 00:28 GMT

#2294

what i'm saying is that he is considered guilty by many people already anyway. for my part, i don't need any more material to want him dead.
good night now, 1:30am here.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 24 2008 11:17 GMT

#2432

nice one. follow the leader!

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 24 2008 16:26 GMT

#2476

1/7 for Ghar and 10/58 for Mandalor isn't much out of proportion. i'm afraid this doesn't help us much, unless Ace knows a large portion of the voters to be sure townies.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 24 2008 16:28 GMT

#2480

On March 25 2008 01:18 Ace wrote:
Update

I got some interesting information about centering around Mandalor's death. Check this out:

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To sum up, basically smurfingchobo voted on Mandalor way before I even brought him up.
This is odd because even when we knew Mandalor was Mafia, we couldn't even find a single clue that implicated him.

What do you guys think about this? Someone did some nice work

this is suspicious indeed. but then again, is there any clue evidence against smurfingchobo?

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 24 2008 17:05 GMT

#2504

plus veterans have no active abilities to prove their role. thus, a mafia infiltrator isn't in danger of blowing his cover by failing to complete a certain task.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 25 2008 09:13 GMT

#2706

i don't like this. i can't see any clues pointing towards wurm. i'm blackmailed to vote against wurm anyway because i'm in the first half of voters against mandalor. this sucks.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 25 2008 11:23 GMT

#2715

would be interesting to hear who the other medics are. maybe one of them has more evidence against 'em. but of course we can't just release a list of medics for the mafia to assassinate.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

March 25 2008 19:37 GMT

#2773

On March 26 2008 03:03 qrs wrote:
I don't think there is a strong enough case to lynch wurm over Ghar. As far as leaving him to die, does anyone think the Mafia will kill him if they know that we will lynch him tomorrow?

We don't need to lynch wurm over Ghar, we can kill both. Ace isn't roleblocked tomorrow, so he can announce a double lynch.
Wurm is dead for sure. Mafia will probably not kill him tonight to cast further suspicion on him. It looks as if he will be lynched tomorrow, and if not and he is townie, mafia can still murder him next night.