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On February 16 2008 16:47 Live2Win wrote:

lol nice try.

I'm assuming DD means Dr.Dragoon

On February 16 2008 16:54 Live2Win wrote:


I wasn't saved by a paramedic, because I didn't get this "PM" from Chuiu or Dapperdan. I have no reason to lie about this either, as the paramedic(s) can easily uncover my lie.

However this puts me in a difficult position. The fact that the mafia didn't even attempt to kill me, means a few things: They want the towns people to suspect me and lynch me, or they want me to think I'm wrong and change my thoughts.... OR I am wrong and see no threat in me.

I need time to think this through.

On February 16 2008 17:09 Alventenie wrote:



If you have a counter argument as how a strange serum doesn't correlate to you, a Doctor, then by all means present it, otherwise the clue is one of the hardest clues pointed at you, because its a direct clue. Nobody else on the list jumps out at me when i look at it and compare that clue to the list aside from you. If you have a counter argument, present it, otherwise, you are just proving that you are guilty anyway and going to be lynched.

On February 16 2008 17:52 Tracil wrote:
Dr. Dragoon consistantly ignores the actual evidence that does point a tenuous finger in his direction in favour of demanding more evidence on himself. There are no cases on anyone else that are the stronger than on him at present. Please stop ignoring the fact that the entire game is a series of educated guesses/crapshoots/gambles whatever you want to call it.

Or, basically- if he is a townie, he should try to find and detail strong cases on other people rather than calling town a pack of idiots. You realise that even if you die and you're a townie, if town wins, you also win? If you've already come up with cases in the game, set them out again, because the thread is huge and the context of today is different than the context of yesterday, and also people are going to forget. Try to narrow your focus to just one or two other people rather than provide a broad range of people who might be mafia.

Remember, if you ARE a townie, *absolutely anyone is a better person to get lynched than you* from your perspective (there's a chance THEY are mafia, and if you know yourself to be town, then yourself getting lynched has a 0% chance of being a good move for town.) Also keep in mind that other people DON'T know your alignment, CAN'T know your alignment for sure, and you have to argue to convince *them*, not yourself.

i.e. "I'm a townie!!!!111" isn't gonna convince anyone.

<->

Likewise, Wurm, if you actually think Dr. Dragoon isn't a worthy lynch target and you have someone you think is *better*, point it out. Don't just go with the flow if you disagree with it. Nobody should try to target you *just* for speaking against the crowd (it depends on the content, naturally. But if your thoughts have merit...)

On February 16 2008 18:15 Tracil wrote:
...no. Bullshit. You do not extort town like that if you're a townie for the sake of your own survival. You do not hold yourself up as some kind of neutral party that 'could give you info, but I won't unless you let me live'. If you were really town and you really wanted town to win, you would do as much as you could to get information out there so that when you flip town, we can look back at your words and take them under consideration.

That whole post smacks of self-preservation at the expense of town's chances of winning. If any townies follow this example, we're fucked.

On February 16 2008 18:20 Hittegods wrote:
Then I'm voting for Dr.Dragoon to be lynched as well. No need for that attitude.

On February 16 2008 18:28 Hittegods wrote:
If you have "100% sure" info on three mafia members, you deserve to die for not revealing them. It would both be good for the town, and a way to get off the hook yourself.

On February 16 2008 18:28 Tracil wrote:
...you'd rather live and lose than die and win.

That's so fucking retarded and petty. People playing like this is the lamest thing you can do. It's not like you twist your ankle playing a game of soccer and proceed to punch every other player on your team in the nuts, and then give the other team performance-enhancing drugs just because you won't be kicking any goals, to provide an exaggerated analogy.

I can understand annoyance, but just stabbing Town in the face because you don't get your way is the ultimate lameness.

On February 17 2008 02:51 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:


Actually if you're smart and innocent, you can search for clues that point to MAFIA. After all there is 14? mafia out of 72 townies, so pointing strong evidence might lead the crowd into lynching a sure target. You have too much suspicion on you right now, so you're dead. You're probably mafia, as all you did was yell IM NOT and didnt contribute to findings, or at least try.

On February 17 2008 03:27 clazziquai wrote:


Just die already. lol

On February 17 2008 03:23 MasterOfChaos wrote:
@DrDragoon:
It does not matter if oneself dies in mafia as long as the right side wins. So you are only screwed(assuming you are towny) if the town loses. So not telling your suspects is irrational behavior (as a towny). Lynching sb whose behavior is irrational under the assumption he is good, is standard mafia behavior, and it's the lynchee own fault.
So you are probably lynched because:
a) Shallow is lying and thus is mafia himself
b) you are mafia
c) you behave stupid or you just want to spoil the game
So at least one of you two is mafia, or one of you is stupid/spoiler.

And in this variant of the game it's in the towns interest do kill much and kill early, as this reduces the number of mafiakills. So using some doublekills early even if you have no proof is probably advisable.

(I'm not playing)

On February 17 2008 03:32 chicken` wrote:
i don't think anyone can be 100% sure about sb being mafia at this point, so he can't really have "figured them out". he's just making assumptions. guess it's his last spark of hope to pretend he knows someone who's mafia for sure so we might change our mind not lynching him (lol ;d)
anyway, it will be quite pleasant to not have to read his repetitive and by now annoying posts anymore.
bye dr

On February 17 2008 03:38 ZBiR wrote:
We screwed up? It was you who acted stupidly/suspiciously. If it turns out that you were a towny, it will be your own fault to make us kill you and waste a lynch.

And yeah, people are telling you that they are mafia. See ya.

On February 17 2008 03:50 str wrote:
completely off topic but does anyone know how old dr.dragoon is? he sounds like those annoying 12-yeah olds that just whine whine whine when its not going their way.

P.S. masterofchaos u better stop posting game related stuff or u might end up like generalstan

On February 17 2008 04:04 str wrote:


nice retort... u completely proved me wrong...

On February 17 2008 04:11 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
fuck why* doesnt mods just ban this idiot, forget the lynching

On February 17 2008 04:15 JeeJee wrote:
@nightmare
actually if FS was mafia, he WOULD have a reason to kill his bodyguards. I mean, first of all he doesn't care because he's safe even if 3 of them are dead (because mafia won't kill him and vigilantes can't til 4th is dead), and moreover because analysis like yours might pop up (mayor needs bg's to live, why would he kill his own bg, he must be townie)

edit: oh and as for the dragoon issue.. at this point it doesn't even matter if he's townie or not. he a) refused to dispute evidence against him, b) refused to provide evidence against others, c) doesn't want the town to win