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On February 13 2008 12:30 Tracil wrote:
@ Fakesteve: That's retarded. You don't kill people just for disagreeing with you or opposing you. I can highlight that you have, until just now, given very little explanation for your actions and been mightly closed-lipped about your plans, taking an attitude of 'I'll get it done! Somehow. Yeah.'
I can see plenty of reason to be suspicious of you and still am myself.
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@ Dr. Dragoon: I'm getting sick of this. What more evidence do I need? Shallow claimed to receive a message from you. The counterclaim is that he shopped it up as a joke, something to which I do not believe he has agreed.
If I am wrong, link me to the relevant post.
If not, then I can only conclude that *one* of you is lying, and your attitude thus far has left me thinking it is *more likely to be you*. *This is an attempt on someones part to force a mislynch. Why do we just let it slide?* Townies shouldn't be trying to pull that.
Have you even seen the picture? It's so obviously fake. I don't know how you can read it, read my posts throughout these 40 pages, and still think that's actually me.
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On February 13 2008 12:38 Live2Win wrote:
I like where this is going.
I'd like to add some input but I want to see how my theories work out so I'm gonna remain shut for the night.
My only hope is that one of the paramedics protect me tonight, as I'll probably be a mafia target.
Especially if my theories turn out to be true.
How come I'm not on your major suspect list anymore???
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On February 13 2008 12:42 Tracil wrote:
Steve: You don't know I'm not mafia, true. However, if you think I am for some reason, point to the actions I've taken that are indicitive of mafia-ness. I've done as much in your case.
Honestly, pointing out that HE MIGHT BE MAFIA in response to any argument is painfully obvious and totally stupid. It feels more like an attempt to close discussion on a difficult topic, rather than to mobilize it.
I've done it for him earlier. You want to lynch as many people as possible, even when you're clearly lacking evidence. You ignore the clues and just go for the kills. You've already pointed out that as pardoner, you're not gonna do anything.
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On February 13 2008 12:47 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2008 12:45 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 13 2008 12:38 Live2Win wrote:
I like where this is going.
I'd like to add some input but I want to see how my theories work out so I'm gonna remain shut for the night.
My only hope is that one of the paramedics protect me tonight, as I'll probably be a mafia target.
Especially if my theories turn out to be true. How come I'm not on your major suspect list anymore??? fixed. I thought u'd be dead right away.
Maybe I planned this all along.
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On February 13 2008 12:52 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
you'd have to kill the bodyguards first
good luck figuring them out
I think lynching bypasses bodyguards.
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On February 13 2008 13:02 qrs wrote:Maybe you talk too much.
Yeah..you're not even in this game.
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On February 13 2008 13:07 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
hey dr.dragoon should i kill you
No. The mafia probably wouldn't want to kill me since everyone seems to think I'm one of them, and you shouldn't kill me because I'm your scapegoat.
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The bodyguards wear ski masks.
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I thought it was just a 2 person instakill of his choice
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On February 13 2008 15:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
have you even considered what will happen if i die?
if you kill me and i'm mafia, you become a target and will surely fall
if you kill me and i'm not mafia, you are a massive idiot and lose not only your credibility but an exceedingly cunning ally
That's been my argument for awhile, but it hasn't worked too well so far.
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On February 13 2008 16:20 Tracil wrote:Show nested quote +
the townies still have no idea whether or not i'm in the mafia, but the mafia know for sure. Killing me is a no-win situation if you don't know for sure whether or not i'm a mobster. however, killing other mob members benefits you no matter what
What? We don't know for sure whether or not you're a mobster. However, that does not make killing you a no-win situation, because you may still be one. And, as usual, this is a position that can be attributed to any lynch ever pretty much (we're not SURE he's mafia. We're virtually never going to be 100% sure.) <-> A lot of people, particularly the accused, say "But if you kill me and I'm NOT mafia, then you look like a moron. I would put it to you that it's the accused who have done stupid things that make them look like mafia. In part, they are responsible for their own image. Do not let people saying 'but if you lynch me, you might die/look like an idiot/the sky might fall on you' and arguments such as those dissuade you. These are not rebuttals, but appeals to pride and fear.
If you kill me and I'm NOT mafia, you are a moron. In part, I am responsible for my own image, but I doubt I'd have much better results if I played it any differently. Once Shallow posted the fake PM, I was everyone's #1 target, regardless of my response.
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On February 13 2008 16:28 Falcynn wrote:
Not entirely true, Shallows picture depicted you as being careless and being a bit foolish. So by trying to act like an oaf after Shallows post, many people probably began to suspect that there's a good chance that you really did send the PM. I actually do believe that people would've jumped on the bandwagon and accused you anyways, but if you would've tried to be more casual you might've had a better chance of getting away.
Have we all forgotten the PM Shallow posted? Careless and a bit foolish is a HUGE understatement. I would have to be borderline retarded to actually do that, unless I wanted to purposely put myself in as ditch.
BTW, I did not want to purposely put myself in a ditch.
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On February 13 2008 16:32 Falcynn wrote:
ok, it was a drastic understatement, but my point is still valid.
You say that if I took a more casual approach, then I would have had a slightly better chance, but I probably would have been screwed anyways. Well, I'm still alive, so I think I did pretty good. I don't think anyone actively following the thread would have thought I'd make it past the first lynch.
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On February 13 2008 16:37 Tracil wrote:
Man, think about how you'd react if it was someone else in that PM box. Someone you didn't know for sure was an alignment either way. I would have had a lot more respect for your arguments if they weren't punctuated with insults.
Well, I'd act differently because I know that Shallow likes to make silly pictures accusing people. If it were two complete strangers, I doubt I'd really believe the PM to be real, but I'd want the person lynched anyways to take attention away from myself.
About the insults, I get tired being civil after 30 or so pages of nobody believing me. The clues don't indicate me, Shallow's accusation of me doesn't even sound serious, and there's the whole PM format problem.
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L's Canadian? wtf Oh and GeneralStan ISN'T in the game?? He's one of my top accusers lol
I think I just made up a noun.
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On February 14 2008 12:59 Empyrean wrote:
What will we do in the meantime?
Throw around accusations with no basis like usual. Duh
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On February 16 2008 10:42 Hittegods wrote:
Time to put on my hat and robe! Thinking hat, and sherlock holmes robe, that is!
So confident of being alive...mafia?!?!?
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One bodyguard died? I recall Tracil was PMed by a person claiming he was a bodyguard. Perhaps Tracil wanted to check WITH A HIT!!! Anyways, don't lynch me, it's a huge mistake. BACK TO PROLEAGUE WAHAHAHA
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You're all voting so fast when we just got a new set of clues. Find something in the clues that points me out. All you're working on is a screenie from shallow and my "attitude"
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I'M KEEPING TRACK OF EVERYONE WHO IS VOTING ME 
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