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Just make sure to lynch shallow once I'm done for.
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On February 12 2008 11:37 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 11:35 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 11:28 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 11:20 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 11:12 CDRdude wrote:
I don't think there should be anything illegal about editing your posts. However, anyone can see if you've edited it or not, and therefore, can see that you have something to hide. Also, if you edit a post, you open yourself up to false claims of quoting the "original" content of a post, (as in "so what if the timestamp is different, it was in my browser cache when I quoted it, it's true!"). Basically, if people spot you editing posts, they know (or think) you have something to hide. If you have something to hide, others will assume that you are mafia. Editing a post seems like a dangerous risk, not to be undertaken by the faint of heart. what's wrong with editing posts? besides it potentially being used as a tool of the mafia to create confusion. mafia members can gang up on people who edited their post. i dont think a simple edit should really justify people's suspicion. but be careful of people who say "omg X edited his post, he must be a mafia member!!". It shows that you have something to hide. Both the people with special abilities, (veterans, elders, etc) and the mafioso have something to hide. The townies want to get rid of the mafioso, and one of the best ways to do this, is look for those who have something to hide. Of course, you can also use an edit to clarify your point, and not hide anything at all. The only problem with that, is that you can also clarify your point with another post, and avoid any suspicion. Looking at in this manner, the suspicion of edited posts is a system with positive feedback. However, since we've already started looking at edited posts with suspicion, the suspicion will only increase with time, there's nothing any of us can do about that. well yes but the editing only occurs if the mafioso are idiots and type something that they shouldn't have. for the most part majority of the people that are editing haven't been the ones ive suspected as mafia members. it's the people who are telling us we can't edit. it gives the illusion that people against editing or saying "x edited his post, mafia!!!" that they themselves dont think editing is fair or a good way to find mafia members. i think by making editing into positive feedback ( as in people who edit have something to hide, mafia members have something to hide, therefore they must be mafia members ) mafia members will be able to convince people to lynch innocent townies . You bring up a good point, but I still can't help but wonder what was in the original version of posts, and why they were edited.
I actually didn't change anything in my last edit, I just did that for giggles. mahnini's blank message was "hi mods" pre-edit. That's all I know.
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On February 12 2008 11:42 dancefayedance!~ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 11:40 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 11:37 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 11:35 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 11:28 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 11:20 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 11:12 CDRdude wrote:
I don't think there should be anything illegal about editing your posts. However, anyone can see if you've edited it or not, and therefore, can see that you have something to hide. Also, if you edit a post, you open yourself up to false claims of quoting the "original" content of a post, (as in "so what if the timestamp is different, it was in my browser cache when I quoted it, it's true!"). Basically, if people spot you editing posts, they know (or think) you have something to hide. If you have something to hide, others will assume that you are mafia. Editing a post seems like a dangerous risk, not to be undertaken by the faint of heart. what's wrong with editing posts? besides it potentially being used as a tool of the mafia to create confusion. mafia members can gang up on people who edited their post. i dont think a simple edit should really justify people's suspicion. but be careful of people who say "omg X edited his post, he must be a mafia member!!". It shows that you have something to hide. Both the people with special abilities, (veterans, elders, etc) and the mafioso have something to hide. The townies want to get rid of the mafioso, and one of the best ways to do this, is look for those who have something to hide. Of course, you can also use an edit to clarify your point, and not hide anything at all. The only problem with that, is that you can also clarify your point with another post, and avoid any suspicion. Looking at in this manner, the suspicion of edited posts is a system with positive feedback. However, since we've already started looking at edited posts with suspicion, the suspicion will only increase with time, there's nothing any of us can do about that. well yes but the editing only occurs if the mafioso are idiots and type something that they shouldn't have. for the most part majority of the people that are editing haven't been the ones ive suspected as mafia members. it's the people who are telling us we can't edit. it gives the illusion that people against editing or saying "x edited his post, mafia!!!" that they themselves dont think editing is fair or a good way to find mafia members. i think by making editing into positive feedback ( as in people who edit have something to hide, mafia members have something to hide, therefore they must be mafia members ) mafia members will be able to convince people to lynch innocent townies . You bring up a good point, but I still can't help but wonder what was in the original version of posts, and why they were edited. I actually didn't change anything in my last edit, I just did that for giggles. mahnini's blank message was "hi mods" pre-edit. That's all I know. exactly what i thought and said
Not like it was hard to figure out =/
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I can't wait for when I get lynched, then ShaLLoW will pop out and yell "PSYCH"
Edit: Or is it "sike"? Oh noes, an edit.
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On February 12 2008 11:57 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 11:54 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
I can't wait for when I get lynched, then ShaLLoW will pop out and yell "PSYCH" You talking about how it's a bad idea about how you will be lynched and not providing any information as to why you sent that PM in the first place isn't a good way to sway votes.
It's funnier this way. It's not like anyone would believe me if I defended myself anyways.
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On February 12 2008 11:58 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 11:57 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 11:45 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 11:42 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 11:40 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 11:37 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 11:35 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 11:28 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 11:20 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On February 12 2008 11:12 CDRdude wrote:
I don't think there should be anything illegal about editing your posts. However, anyone can see if you've edited it or not, and therefore, can see that you have something to hide. Also, if you edit a post, you open yourself up to false claims of quoting the "original" content of a post, (as in "so what if the timestamp is different, it was in my browser cache when I quoted it, it's true!"). Basically, if people spot you editing posts, they know (or think) you have something to hide. If you have something to hide, others will assume that you are mafia. Editing a post seems like a dangerous risk, not to be undertaken by the faint of heart. what's wrong with editing posts? besides it potentially being used as a tool of the mafia to create confusion. mafia members can gang up on people who edited their post. i dont think a simple edit should really justify people's suspicion. but be careful of people who say "omg X edited his post, he must be a mafia member!!". It shows that you have something to hide. Both the people with special abilities, (veterans, elders, etc) and the mafioso have something to hide. The townies want to get rid of the mafioso, and one of the best ways to do this, is look for those who have something to hide. Of course, you can also use an edit to clarify your point, and not hide anything at all. The only problem with that, is that you can also clarify your point with another post, and avoid any suspicion. Looking at in this manner, the suspicion of edited posts is a system with positive feedback. However, since we've already started looking at edited posts with suspicion, the suspicion will only increase with time, there's nothing any of us can do about that. well yes but the editing only occurs if the mafioso are idiots and type something that they shouldn't have. for the most part majority of the people that are editing haven't been the ones ive suspected as mafia members. it's the people who are telling us we can't edit. it gives the illusion that people against editing or saying "x edited his post, mafia!!!" that they themselves dont think editing is fair or a good way to find mafia members. i think by making editing into positive feedback ( as in people who edit have something to hide, mafia members have something to hide, therefore they must be mafia members ) mafia members will be able to convince people to lynch innocent townies . You bring up a good point, but I still can't help but wonder what was in the original version of posts, and why they were edited. I actually didn't change anything in my last edit, I just did that for giggles. mahnini's blank message was "hi mods" pre-edit. That's all I know. exactly what i thought and said Not like it was hard to figure out =/ It went way over CDRdude's head:/ I'm vertically challenged, that's all 
As proven by the Ron Paul joke.
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Just so you all know, even if I die, I can still post here to taunt you all!
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On February 12 2008 12:10 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:07 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Just so you all know, even if I die, I can still post here to taunt you all! I'll let you post. If you try to sway votes or do something a dead person shouldn't be able to do I'll have to bring out my hammer.
Do something a dead person shouldn't be able to?
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On February 12 2008 12:12 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:09 Alethios wrote:On February 12 2008 12:07 CDRdude wrote:
Dammit, I made that vertically challenged post AFTER the clue was posted. Look at the timestamps. Also, look at what I was replying to. Wow... can't edit. Funny that I was just advocating that if you had read it, you wouldn't have made that mistake... then you tell us that you hadn't read it when you posted the message... interesting.... You misunderstand me (or I'm missing your point, one of the two). What I'm saying, is that unless Chuiu can predict the future, he could not have meant that specific remark of mine to be a clue, because the clue about "that's low, even for you" was posted before my comment about height.
Your subconscious is forcing you to reveal the truth. LYYYYYYYYYNNNNNNNCCCCCCHHHH!!!!!
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On February 12 2008 12:16 Live2Win wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:12 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 12:10 Live2Win wrote:On February 12 2008 12:07 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Just so you all know, even if I die, I can still post here to taunt you all! I'll let you post. If you try to sway votes or do something a dead person shouldn't be able to do I'll have to bring out my hammer. Do something a dead person shouldn't be able to? the rule is if someone dies from mafia or gets lynched they shouldn't be able to post, since they might sway votes. But I think it'll be better if dead people still post, but nothing that would directly effect the game.
The rules allow me to post as long as I don't directly affect the game.
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On February 12 2008 12:22 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
why is everyone jumping all over dr.dragoon when that screenshot/pm (if it happened looked) like an obvious joke. the mafia know who each other are, so why would he pm someone like that? I think that the argument lies in the fact that he seems pretty dumb, and the town would be better off without him, even if he isn't mafioso. Also, I still think you're a mafioso. Too many people are popping up and voting for you, without any other comments, which says (to me, at least) that the other mafia, which know who you are, are voting you in as a mafia candidate for mayor.
Now you're just being a jerk.
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This is so complicated, I think we should just lynch something random, like prime numbers. Oh wait..Oh shi
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1. shallow is not mafia, but that doesn't mean I'm mafia either
2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a stupid idea, but an EVEN STUPIDER thing to do, would be to send the message in that PM. So that "pm" is a lot less likely than a fake shop.
3. Simply a joke post, check out a lot of my earlier posts where I'm just joking around.
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On February 12 2008 12:29 Alethios wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:27 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
This is so complicated, I think we should just lynch something random, like prime numbers. Oh wait..Oh shi Typical behavior from one who knows he is a gonner. Oh shi... i'm going to be lynched. I know... suggest alternatives. Farewell my good sir.
My number is 13, a number generally considered bad luck, AND a prime number. Just a joke :O
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On February 12 2008 12:38 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
1. shallow is not mafia, but that doesn't mean I'm mafia either
2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a stupid idea, but an EVEN STUPIDER thing to do, would be to send the message in that PM. So that "pm" is a lot less likely than a fake shop. So you're saying either shallow is a liar or you are? But in #1 you admit that shallow is not a mafia? WAT?
There's the possibility of both of us lying too. I doubt shallow is mafia anyways, he would be more inclined to lay low, rather than try to start drama that would put him at risk. The REAL situation is basically just a big joke by shallow, which everyone took to be true.
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On February 12 2008 12:36 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:24 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 12:22 CDRdude wrote:On February 12 2008 12:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
why is everyone jumping all over dr.dragoon when that screenshot/pm (if it happened looked) like an obvious joke. the mafia know who each other are, so why would he pm someone like that? I think that the argument lies in the fact that he seems pretty dumb, and the town would be better off without him, even if he isn't mafioso. Also, I still think you're a mafioso. Too many people are popping up and voting for you, without any other comments, which says (to me, at least) that the other mafia, which know who you are, are voting you in as a mafia candidate for mayor. Now you're just being a jerk. Yes, but other people think it too: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=18#344http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=18#354http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=20#387
GeneralStan had an incredibly narrow minded view of the options, and he's the guy who wants to lynch people who make sense. The other two give options of me being awesome.
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On February 12 2008 12:47 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:40 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
There's the possibility of both of us lying too. I doubt shallow is mafia anyways, he would be more inclined to lay low, rather than try to start drama that would put him at risk. The REAL situation is basically just a big joke by shallow, which everyone took to be true. Speaking of shallow lying low, isn't that exactly what he's doing now? I haven't seen him post much in the past couple of hours.
I think he left, since I remember his last post being about a scooter or something.
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On February 12 2008 12:49 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:43 Empyrean wrote:On February 12 2008 12:40 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 12:38 mahnini wrote:On February 12 2008 12:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
1. shallow is not mafia, but that doesn't mean I'm mafia either
2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a stupid idea, but an EVEN STUPIDER thing to do, would be to send the message in that PM. So that "pm" is a lot less likely than a fake shop. So you're saying either shallow is a liar or you are? But in #1 you admit that shallow is not a mafia? WAT? There's the possibility of both of us lying too. I doubt shallow is mafia anyways, he would be more inclined to lay low, rather than try to start drama that would put him at risk. The REAL situation is basically just a big joke by shallow, which everyone took to be true. Actually, I'm kind of inclined to agree here. I smell mafia backup. What would dragoon be lying about? The PM that he now admits he sent? Or is he lying about not being a mafia? Surely it is the former. In any case, both of them being liars just means both of them need to get lynched, although it's just Dragoon who is getting caught up in his web of lies. Plus, he called for Empyrean mafia backup.
I never admitted to sending that PM that shallow posted. The PMs (yes, plural) that shallow and I exchanged are much different.
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On February 12 2008 12:53 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2008 12:51 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 12:49 mahnini wrote:On February 12 2008 12:43 Empyrean wrote:On February 12 2008 12:40 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On February 12 2008 12:38 mahnini wrote:On February 12 2008 12:32 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
1. shallow is not mafia, but that doesn't mean I'm mafia either
2. Photoshopping a message to frame someone is a stupid idea, but an EVEN STUPIDER thing to do, would be to send the message in that PM. So that "pm" is a lot less likely than a fake shop. So you're saying either shallow is a liar or you are? But in #1 you admit that shallow is not a mafia? WAT? There's the possibility of both of us lying too. I doubt shallow is mafia anyways, he would be more inclined to lay low, rather than try to start drama that would put him at risk. The REAL situation is basically just a big joke by shallow, which everyone took to be true. Actually, I'm kind of inclined to agree here. I smell mafia backup. What would dragoon be lying about? The PM that he now admits he sent? Or is he lying about not being a mafia? Surely it is the former. In any case, both of them being liars just means both of them need to get lynched, although it's just Dragoon who is getting caught up in his web of lies. Plus, he called for Empyrean mafia backup. I never admitted to sending that PM that shallow posted. The PMs (yes, plural) that shallow and I exchanged are much different. screens or it didn't happen.
They aren't any of your business! You would probably say they were photoshopped anyways . I will tell you this though, I do not say anything about me being mafia in them.
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On February 12 2008 12:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The whole point is that it's an epic postfest.
Blame this^ guy.
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