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Trfel
7015 Posts
It looks like the best alternative is raynpelikoneet. I've presented my arguments, I can try and restate them so that they make more sense but I don't think it would make a huge difference. If people don't agree then so be it. Hopefully I am wrong or we can figure things out later. I don't think there is anything meaningful I can do to try and change the lynch, so unless that changes, I guess I might as well wait and see what happens and then act accordingly. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 11 2024 15:47 Koshi wrote: what are you saying here.. that you will vote rayn and/or dmb this cycle?Unreal. Ok so mafia is split up. rayn/Koshi/dmb has 1 or 2 Mocsta/Sandroba has 1 or 2 Slam/Vivax/AZ has 0 or 1 Is that it? And us townies are capable to see 1. And we all have 1 mafia sitting in our ass mretending to be our friend. It is obvious Tfrel is town It is obvious Scott is town It is obvious Oats is town Those 3 are consensus right? Might want to add Vivax but dmb is still unsure. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 11 2024 15:34 Oatsmaster wrote: you're only saying this because sandroba could be a lynch majorityHere’s my current situation. I think Sandro is the scummiest person in the game currently. I’m not interested in the construction of the wagons on d2. To get me to vote for someone that isn’t Sandro, you have to convince me that the person is scummier than Sandro. Not any other way. if someone like scott comes off and its a tie breaker you are in a dilemma. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
On June 11 2024 15:59 Mocsta wrote: what are you saying here.. that you will vote rayn and/or dmb this cycle? If that is true he should be voting into rayn/dmb not sandro lmao. Nice pickup Moc. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 11 2024 14:03 AlphaZero wrote: I think we should lynch Rayn today with dmb a close second. Ohhhhhhh boiiiiiii I am getting convinced. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote: Half the town is scum siding imo The entire town. We just have a different scum we slide with. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
THANK YOU OATSMASTER FOR EXPLAINIKG EXACTLY WHERE I AM IN THIS GAME IN A CALM AND RESPECTFUL WAY. AZ, Tfrel and Mocsta should reread or really consider that conversation as a goldmine inside my view on this game. He is almost exactly at the place I am. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 11 2024 16:08 Koshi wrote: there's that bd energy. Go youI almost never type in all caps THANK YOU OATSMASTER FOR EXPLAINIKG EXACTLY WHERE I AM IN THIS GAME IN A CALM AND RESPECTFUL WAY. AZ, Tfrel and Mocsta should reread or really consider that conversation as a goldmine inside my view on this game. He is almost exactly at the place I am. People around me wondering why I'm laughing out loud! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 11 2024 14:19 Trfel wrote: Honestly we need to think about possible outs here.Looks like Alakaslam isn't playing anymore, unfortunately. This means that unless someone moves their vote from sandroba, sandroba is going to be lynched. This greatly restricts our lynch options. In fact, I don't think this gives us any alternative lynches at all. I guess our goal therefore has to be to either: 1. convince someone from the sandroba wagon to switch votes or 2. provide so much evidence that even with mafia getting a (presumably) free mislynch here, they are incriminated allowing us to lynch 3 mafia in a row Unfortunately it doesn't seem very realistic to win against five mafia :/ ah well. The townies are in control. You have to trust that. Youvare town and in control of your teams target. I am town and I am in control of my teams target. If you dont trust me, Oats is also town and going for sandroba. In the perfect world. We are both killing the mafia thatvrides our ass. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 11 2024 16:11 Koshi wrote: The townies are in control. You have to trust that. Youvare town and in control of your teams target. I am town and I am in control of my teams target. If you dont trust me, Oats is also town and going for sandroba. In the perfect world. We are both killing the mafia thatvrides our ass. The other team townies are killing the opposite mafia ass rider is what I mean. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
And dmb in townteam Oats Koshi | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 11 2024 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote: I guess I can go back and respond to this. If you don't agree that's fine but I'll try.I really don’t get what the accuracy of the statement has to do with rayns alignment. It's totally understandable for someone to misinterpret something and make a wrong claim and realize it and retract their claim. This isn't what raynpelikoneet did. When sandroba and I pointed out that he was misreading sandroba's post, instead of changing his view, raynpelikoneet modified his argument. See here: On June 11 2024 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Raynpelikoneet's initial argument:TLDR; If sandroba thinks rsoultin is mafia and Oats is town, there is simply no reason to say Oats can be mafia with rsoultin. - Sandroba said that if rsoultin/Koshi is mafia, Oatsmaster could be mafia (implying this is more likely). Then, sandroba said he thinks rsoultin/Koshi is mafia, but didn't think Oatsmaster is mafia Becomes: - Sandroba said a pointless association read, it's pointless because it only matters if someone is town, and sandroba thinks that person is mafia The latter isn't wrong, but it's a much weaker argument. However, this change did not affect raynpelikoneet's read on sandroba or his confidence in this case. Town in this spot would re-evaluate given the new information. Note that raynpelikoneet's third point is literally nonsense. Sandroba said "I have no idea how to read rsoultin so it helps that Koshi replaced in, here are the reasons Koshi is mafia: (reasons)" and took that to mean "Koshi is mafia because I have no idea how to read rsoultin" which is simply not what sandroba said? The end result is you have a three point case where raynpelikoneet literally said the first point doesn't mean anything on its own, the second point is quite weak, and the third point is objectively not true. But raynpelikoneet still believes it, very strongly, after being shown these things. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
At this point I would switch sides. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 11 2024 16:14 Koshi wrote: rayn can you 100% convince me you are town? At this point I would switch sides. Not would. I could. @Tfrel. I think rayns case on sandroba is legit. Do you want me to explain it or do you understand but not agree it is good? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 11 2024 16:16 Koshi wrote: Do you think it is good still?Ahno you understand it. You just dont think it is good. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
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