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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 11 2024 05:49 GMT
#2921
Just calm down trfel. You don’t actually want to lynch scott
No gg, No skill.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 11 2024 05:56 GMT
#2922
I'm sorry everyone, I just can't play with Oatsmaster anymore. Best of luck.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 11 2024 06:07 GMT
#2923
On June 11 2024 14:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:36 Mocsta wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Like what is this absurd play where you just think that only people who agree with you are playing the game correctly
dude.. you are doing the same thing

this is all TvT, need faith

i get you dont want to listen to me, im in your bottom half and its ok

like.. mafia do not have to do anything right now.. the people here actually care.. we not just talking shit for the sake of it

thats town br0

How am I calling the people I think are town not playing the game the right way?
well you treat your town reads remarkedly different, so your actions convey this.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 11 2024 06:09 GMT
#2924
On June 11 2024 14:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I mean like I just don’t understand the ego here.

We both think trfel and Scott are town. We obviously think ourselves are town. Both of dmb and Sandro are voting each other.

The only contentious people are rayn/koshi v vivax


I’m not convinced on Scott I’m just opening the door on being wrong and trfel and Marv being right.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 11 2024 06:09 GMT
#2925
On June 11 2024 14:46 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Idk man trfel you were chomping at the bit to lynch vivax this morning. He’s on the dmb wagon too.
Maybe try reading a little? Just a little?

I'm actually serious, if we are able to lynch scott31337 here and keep sandroba alive, I think that's absolutely worth doing.
stop

breathe and calm down

stick with Rayn vote, and let it snowball

theres only 3 active posters, so its ok to be 2 of 3 on rayn for now.

oats may come around once rayn or others react.. i get we need oats on this wagon.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 11 2024 06:11 GMT
#2926
On May 24 2024 10:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
(...)
[*] Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
(...)
I seem to have found a loophole, I can apparently get myself modkilled as long as it doesn't help my team.

Side note, curious if we are enforcing this:
On May 24 2024 10:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 11 2024 06:11 GMT
#2927
I’ll vote Rayn. I can swap when I have more time.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 11 2024 06:11 GMT
#2928
Don’t quit trfel.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 11 2024 06:12 GMT
#2929
On June 11 2024 15:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2024 10:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
(...)
[*] Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
(...)
I seem to have found a loophole, I can apparently get myself modkilled as long as it doesn't help my team.

Side note, curious if we are enforcing this:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2024 10:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

Please cite examples of me being a jerk ty
No gg, No skill.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 11 2024 06:20 GMT
#2930
Oats if you are Town can you stop antagonising your top town reads to the point of losing morale.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 11 2024 06:22 GMT
#2931
11 players left. 8t, 3m

Slam is likely afk on Vivax, so need to assume this is a 10player vote, 7t, 3m (due to out-in-open afk request)

Majority is 6,4 or as sandroba would be first to 5

can only afford 1 townie to vote with scum if 3m on a wagon; which seems impossible with oats having an impasse with sandroba.

this really feels like day 5 on a day 2

its true. this is deflating and feels over trfel
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 11 2024 06:24 GMT
#2932
Okay let me reset because clearly this isn’t the way that any game should go.

I apologize for any of the posts I’ve made that are inflammatory and not relevant to the game/solving mafia.

I totally understand if your experience hasn’t been good and I am sorry about that.
Going forward I just want to have fun and enjoy playing mafia and I hope to foster an environment that it will be possible to have fun, win or lose
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 11 2024 06:30 GMT
#2933
On June 11 2024 15:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Okay let me reset because clearly this isn’t the way that any game should go.

I apologize for any of the posts I’ve made that are inflammatory and not relevant to the game/solving mafia.

I totally understand if your experience hasn’t been good and I am sorry about that.
Going forward I just want to have fun and enjoy playing mafia and I hope to foster an environment that it will be possible to have fun, win or lose
thank you oats

im really confident to the death that this group of actives (oats, trfel, az, mocsta) are town. we need 2 more for the vote outside of slam.

its up to scott to prove himself as im really hoping hes the 5th

then for the 6th someone of sandroba/vivax/dmb.. of which i am most town on sandroba (i listed this group as is to align with oats concerns with sandroba)


Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 11 2024 06:34 GMT
#2934
Here’s my current situation. I think Sandro is the scummiest person in the game currently. I’m not interested in the construction of the wagons on d2.
To get me to vote for someone that isn’t Sandro, you have to convince me that the person is scummier than Sandro. Not any other way.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2024 06:36 GMT
#2935
On June 11 2024 09:15 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 09:12 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 08:49 Mocsta wrote:
Az
To confirm your considering a grouping of

((Rayn/koshi); scott: (dmb / altm lurker)?


Im dropping scott for now, I think its pretty clear that I am missing something, because all my big town reads think he is town. (trfel/marv)


I like oats as mafia if im being really open and honest. he seems to be flying under the radar a bit too much

all the mafia in Rayn/koshi/DMB/Oats

If scott is mafia I will just feel vindicated post game and blame the loss on trfel and marv.

This is unreal. Who is siding with mafia? Is mafiabstill split over the groups? wowowowow
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2024 06:40 GMT
#2936
On June 11 2024 09:39 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 09:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 08:02 AlphaZero wrote:
ok here is where I am at.

I think there is mafia in rayn/koshi. Not sure about both tho. can't give you a reason, they both just seem 'less' than there town games.

With players of their calibre, i don't think there is going to be much to really hang your hat on.

With koshi, there are more 'dumb' moments than smart.

With rayn, i am just not that impressed by anything he has done, and usually I am.

Not strong, I know.

I think sandro looks good every time he posts, as did marv, he is not lynchable for now IMO he will self resolve as maf.

Agree with the points RE: DMB.

Trfel is the Vivax lynch still the best one in your opinion?


How would Sandro self resolve?


He either keeps up in activity and analysis or does not. He is famous for being low activity as mafia.

Why is he mafia to you. I agreed with his takes pretty much all the time.

He is famous for being low activity as mafia? Then why are we not lynching him. I only remember 2 towngames and he was wayyyyyyy more active there. It's 90% of why I am voting him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2024 06:41 GMT
#2937
On June 11 2024 09:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 09:39 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 09:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 08:02 AlphaZero wrote:
ok here is where I am at.

I think there is mafia in rayn/koshi. Not sure about both tho. can't give you a reason, they both just seem 'less' than there town games.

With players of their calibre, i don't think there is going to be much to really hang your hat on.

With koshi, there are more 'dumb' moments than smart.

With rayn, i am just not that impressed by anything he has done, and usually I am.

Not strong, I know.

I think sandro looks good every time he posts, as did marv, he is not lynchable for now IMO he will self resolve as maf.

Agree with the points RE: DMB.

Trfel is the Vivax lynch still the best one in your opinion?


How would Sandro self resolve?


He either keeps up in activity and analysis or does not. He is famous for being low activity as mafia.

Why is he mafia to you. I agreed with his takes pretty much all the time.

This is low activity

❤
I had a good night of sleep.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 11 2024 06:44 GMT
#2938
On June 11 2024 15:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Okay let me reset because clearly this isn’t the way that any game should go.

I apologize for any of the posts I’ve made that are inflammatory and not relevant to the game/solving mafia.

I totally understand if your experience hasn’t been good and I am sorry about that.
Going forward I just want to have fun and enjoy playing mafia and I hope to foster an environment that it will be possible to have fun, win or lose
I'm sorry too, it's largely my fault, unfortunately some out of game stuff happened right after the start of the game and I don't want to talk about it or use it as an excuse but it's just really hard for me to have the patience that I need to. I'm trying as hard as I can to be patient but I'm not meeting the standards I would like to.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2024 06:47 GMT
#2939
On June 11 2024 11:35 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 09:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 09:51 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 09:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 09:44 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 09:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 09:39 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 09:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 08:02 AlphaZero wrote:
ok here is where I am at.

I think there is mafia in rayn/koshi. Not sure about both tho. can't give you a reason, they both just seem 'less' than there town games.

With players of their calibre, i don't think there is going to be much to really hang your hat on.

With koshi, there are more 'dumb' moments than smart.

With rayn, i am just not that impressed by anything he has done, and usually I am.

Not strong, I know.

I think sandro looks good every time he posts, as did marv, he is not lynchable for now IMO he will self resolve as maf.

Agree with the points RE: DMB.

Trfel is the Vivax lynch still the best one in your opinion?


How would Sandro self resolve?


He either keeps up in activity and analysis or does not. He is famous for being low activity as mafia.

Why is he mafia to you. I agreed with his takes pretty much all the time.

This is low activity


It is, but he had a IRL excuse.

If there is an increase in activity now I think it’s less clear.

So again I ask, how does he self resolve?


He plays the next phase or two like the last two games he played. Or he doesn't

I guarantee you he doesn’t
In 2 phases it’s gonna be lylo assuming nothing funky happens and we continue to miss.

Can you show me some good posts from Sandro? I’m assuming you don’t think the post I pointed out makes him scummy


I assume that this is the question you want me to answer,

I generally agree with his thinking and worldviews

The post you quoted was weak I agree.

I just want to give him some time because I think it will become more clear than this either way.

And I think there are good alternatives. Like Rayn/koshi/dmb

Unreal.

Ok so mafia is split up.

rayn/Koshi/dmb has 1 or 2
Mocsta/Sandroba has 1 or 2
Slam/Vivax/AZ has 0 or 1

Is that it? And us townies are capable to see 1. And we all have 1 mafia sitting in our ass mretending to be our friend.

It is obvious Tfrel is town
It is obvious Scott is town
It is obvious Oats is town

Those 3 are consensus right? Might want to add Vivax but dmb is still unsure.
I had a good night of sleep.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 11 2024 06:51 GMT
#2940
I'll do my best to try and play a little more, but I'm going to need to make a change or two.

Oatsmaster, I apologize in advance if I ignore any of your questions. I will do my best to be patient and interact in a civil manner but if I need to stop talking to preserve my sanity, I will do so.

It's obvious but to clarify, you (and anyone else) have every right to disagree with me, and I'm sorry if in my frustration it has come across as otherwise.
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