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On June 11 2024 13:58 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 13:56 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 03:04 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.
That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.
Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? Middle point is actually very interesting. Good find. Okay nvm I did think you talked about Sandro more than this post in more specific terms but why is this a good point at the time of the post and no longer a good point? I looked into this more later, when raynpelikoneet did his whole "best case in the thread" thing, and realized that this argument is based on a misinterpretation of sandroba's post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 05:59 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.
That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.
Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? Okay, lemme break down the best case in the game. First point, you even say isn't bad in and of itself. Second point, I thought made sense, upon rereading sandroba's filter though that's not what he is saying. Sandroba's post #2446 means that he thinks Oatsmaster can't be mafia if rsoultin/Koshi is town. He just said it in a weird way. Then, separately, he thinks Oatsmaster is town. At a glance you can maybe see it as sandroba thinking that if rsoultin/Koshi is mafia, Oatsmaster is mafia, but I really really don't think that is what sandroba is saying. Third point, huh? My best guess at what you are trying to say is that you are referring to this: On June 11 2024 00:21 sandroba wrote:On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
I am 100% convinced you are mafia. But I will lynch you last because your filter is huge.
Sandroba and Mocsta are both mafia and I think we agree on that. Okay this actually makes me feel a lot better, since I think rsoul is to me much harder to pin down as mafia than Koshi. For Koshi if he is this bad he is mafia and this view makes him mafia 100%. There is absolutely no way Koshi comes in with fresh eyes, reads the same thread as me and comes to this conclusion. Which isn't just a misinterpretation of sandroba's post but is blatantly ignoring the entire point? You cannot possibly think this case holds any water whatsoever, much less being the best case in the game?
I really don’t get what the accuracy of the statement has to do with rayns alignment.
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On June 11 2024 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Why did Rayn choose me, whom he implies is mafia to mason and not koshi or trfel. Why would mafia rayn mason anyone?
Come on now. You KNOW that mafia mason players for a reason. He himself stated that he would mason particular players he thinks he could trick.
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On June 11 2024 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 13:58 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 13:56 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 03:04 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.
That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.
Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? Middle point is actually very interesting. Good find. Okay nvm I did think you talked about Sandro more than this post in more specific terms but why is this a good point at the time of the post and no longer a good point? I looked into this more later, when raynpelikoneet did his whole "best case in the thread" thing, and realized that this argument is based on a misinterpretation of sandroba's post. On June 11 2024 05:59 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.
That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.
Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? Okay, lemme break down the best case in the game. First point, you even say isn't bad in and of itself. Second point, I thought made sense, upon rereading sandroba's filter though that's not what he is saying. Sandroba's post #2446 means that he thinks Oatsmaster can't be mafia if rsoultin/Koshi is town. He just said it in a weird way. Then, separately, he thinks Oatsmaster is town. At a glance you can maybe see it as sandroba thinking that if rsoultin/Koshi is mafia, Oatsmaster is mafia, but I really really don't think that is what sandroba is saying. Third point, huh? My best guess at what you are trying to say is that you are referring to this: On June 11 2024 00:21 sandroba wrote:On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
I am 100% convinced you are mafia. But I will lynch you last because your filter is huge.
Sandroba and Mocsta are both mafia and I think we agree on that. Okay this actually makes me feel a lot better, since I think rsoul is to me much harder to pin down as mafia than Koshi. For Koshi if he is this bad he is mafia and this view makes him mafia 100%. There is absolutely no way Koshi comes in with fresh eyes, reads the same thread as me and comes to this conclusion. Which isn't just a misinterpretation of sandroba's post but is blatantly ignoring the entire point? You cannot possibly think this case holds any water whatsoever, much less being the best case in the game? I really don’t get what the accuracy of the statement has to do with rayns alignment. The fact that when sandroba and I explained it, he didn't change his view at all?
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On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:03 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 13:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 13:55 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 13:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 13:13 AlphaZero wrote:
I dont really understand the oats push here. Cause he called dmb mafia. So from his perspective both major wagons are mafia. And his wagon is leading.
So why the faux desperation. Fucking weird. So you don’t see today as critically important to get correct? I’m sorry for you in that case I do. But from your perspective both wagons are mafia? So what gives? Degree of mafia ness So give me a list post? Highest degree of mafianess Sandro Slam Dmb Mocsta Vivax Koshi Rayn Scott Az Trfel Lowest degree of mafianess
Slam? Really?? Even with the replace out.?
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On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:Who?
Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically
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On June 11 2024 14:14 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Why did Rayn choose me, whom he implies is mafia to mason and not koshi or trfel. Why would mafia rayn mason anyone? Come on now. You KNOW that mafia mason players for a reason. He himself stated that he would mason particular players he thinks he could trick.
So his master mafia plan is to mason you and not type for 27 hours.
Great plan
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On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo Who? Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically
I don’t think you know what scum siding means though if you are gonna use it as “everyone who isn’t on the lynch I’m on"
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On June 11 2024 14:15 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:03 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 13:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 13:55 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 13:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 13:13 AlphaZero wrote:
I dont really understand the oats push here. Cause he called dmb mafia. So from his perspective both major wagons are mafia. And his wagon is leading.
So why the faux desperation. Fucking weird. So you don’t see today as critically important to get correct? I’m sorry for you in that case I do. But from your perspective both wagons are mafia? So what gives? Degree of mafia ness So give me a list post? Highest degree of mafianess Sandro Slam Dmb Mocsta Vivax Koshi Rayn Scott Az Trfel Lowest degree of mafianess Slam? Really?? Even with the replace out.?
Out of game
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Honestly we need to think about possible outs here.On June 11 2024 09:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
sandroba (5); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero
Vivax (2): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (1): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax
With 5 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Looks like Alakaslam isn't playing anymore, unfortunately. This means that unless someone moves their vote from sandroba, sandroba is going to be lynched.
This greatly restricts our lynch options. In fact, I don't think this gives us any alternative lynches at all. I guess our goal therefore has to be to either:
1. convince someone from the sandroba wagon to switch votes
or
2. provide so much evidence that even with mafia getting a (presumably) free mislynch here, they are incriminated allowing us to lynch 3 mafia in a row
Unfortunately it doesn't seem very realistic to win against five mafia :/ ah well.
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On June 11 2024 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:14 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Why did Rayn choose me, whom he implies is mafia to mason and not koshi or trfel. Why would mafia rayn mason anyone? Come on now. You KNOW that mafia mason players for a reason. He himself stated that he would mason particular players he thinks he could trick. So his master mafia plan is to mason you and not type for 27 hours. Great plan
He doesn’t know my Timezone.
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On June 11 2024 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo Who? Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically I don’t think you know what scum siding means though if you are gonna use it as “everyone who isn’t on the lynch I’m on"
I mean all the scum are on the other wagon and all the townies also there are literally scum siding.
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On June 11 2024 14:19 Trfel wrote:Honestly we need to think about possible outs here. Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 09:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
sandroba (5); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero
Vivax (2): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (1): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax
With 5 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Looks like Alakaslam isn't playing anymore, unfortunately. This means that unless someone moves their vote from sandroba, sandroba is going to be lynched. This greatly restricts our lynch options. In fact, I don't think this gives us any alternative lynches at all. I guess our goal therefore has to be to either: 1. convince someone from the sandroba wagon to switch votes or 2. provide so much evidence that even with mafia getting a (presumably) free mislynch here, they are incriminated allowing us to lynch 3 mafia in a row Unfortunately it doesn't seem very realistic to win against five mafia :/ ah well.
Agree. This is town loss as opposed to mafia win imo.
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Can we like take a vote to concede?
I think not having Alakaslam's vote is the nail in the coffin. If he was still around there'd at least be hope to get Mocsta and Alakaslam on board, without, why even bother?
I mean I guess I could just stop posting, but I don't know if I have the self control.
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On June 11 2024 14:21 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo Who? Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically I don’t think you know what scum siding means though if you are gonna use it as “everyone who isn’t on the lynch I’m on" I mean all the scum are on the other wagon and all the townies also there are literally scum siding.
You know the alignments?
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On June 11 2024 14:20 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:14 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Why did Rayn choose me, whom he implies is mafia to mason and not koshi or trfel. Why would mafia rayn mason anyone? Come on now. You KNOW that mafia mason players for a reason. He himself stated that he would mason particular players he thinks he could trick. So his master mafia plan is to mason you and not type for 27 hours. Great plan He doesn’t know my Timezone.
27 hours covers every timezone
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On June 11 2024 14:15 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 13:58 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 13:56 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 03:04 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.
That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.
Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? Middle point is actually very interesting. Good find. Okay nvm I did think you talked about Sandro more than this post in more specific terms but why is this a good point at the time of the post and no longer a good point? I looked into this more later, when raynpelikoneet did his whole "best case in the thread" thing, and realized that this argument is based on a misinterpretation of sandroba's post. On June 11 2024 05:59 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.
That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.
Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? Okay, lemme break down the best case in the game. First point, you even say isn't bad in and of itself. Second point, I thought made sense, upon rereading sandroba's filter though that's not what he is saying. Sandroba's post #2446 means that he thinks Oatsmaster can't be mafia if rsoultin/Koshi is town. He just said it in a weird way. Then, separately, he thinks Oatsmaster is town. At a glance you can maybe see it as sandroba thinking that if rsoultin/Koshi is mafia, Oatsmaster is mafia, but I really really don't think that is what sandroba is saying. Third point, huh? My best guess at what you are trying to say is that you are referring to this: On June 11 2024 00:21 sandroba wrote:On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
I am 100% convinced you are mafia. But I will lynch you last because your filter is huge.
Sandroba and Mocsta are both mafia and I think we agree on that. Okay this actually makes me feel a lot better, since I think rsoul is to me much harder to pin down as mafia than Koshi. For Koshi if he is this bad he is mafia and this view makes him mafia 100%. There is absolutely no way Koshi comes in with fresh eyes, reads the same thread as me and comes to this conclusion. Which isn't just a misinterpretation of sandroba's post but is blatantly ignoring the entire point? You cannot possibly think this case holds any water whatsoever, much less being the best case in the game? I really don’t get what the accuracy of the statement has to do with rayns alignment. The fact that when sandroba and I explained it, he didn't change his view at all?
I’m not sure why he’s supposed to change his mind when Sandro explains it. He addresses in his final post currently that he doesn’t think you’ve sufficiently argued against his point.
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On June 11 2024 14:24 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:21 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo Who? Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically I don’t think you know what scum siding means though if you are gonna use it as “everyone who isn’t on the lynch I’m on" I mean all the scum are on the other wagon and all the townies also there are literally scum siding. You know the alignments?
Oh fuck off
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On June 11 2024 14:19 Trfel wrote:Honestly we need to think about possible outs here. Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 09:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
sandroba (5); raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Scott31337, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby
die_meatbaby (3): Trfel, sandroba, AlphaZero
Vivax (2): Trfel, AlphaZero, Scott31337, Koshi, Mocsta, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby
Koshi (1): Vivax, sandroba
scott31337 (0): Vivax
With 5 votes, sandroba is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Looks like Alakaslam isn't playing anymore, unfortunately. This means that unless someone moves their vote from sandroba, sandroba is going to be lynched. This greatly restricts our lynch options. In fact, I don't think this gives us any alternative lynches at all. I guess our goal therefore has to be to either: 1. convince someone from the sandroba wagon to switch votes or 2. provide so much evidence that even with mafia getting a (presumably) free mislynch here, they are incriminated allowing us to lynch 3 mafia in a row Unfortunately it doesn't seem very realistic to win against five mafia :/ ah well.
Correct me if I’m wrong
This is assuming no blue actions
Currently its 8-3 town-mafia
After n2, it will be 6-3 town mafia
After n3 it will be 4-3 town mafia.
Even if Sandro is town, we still get 1 more mislynch to lylo. Why the doom and gloom?
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On June 11 2024 14:25 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:20 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:14 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Why did Rayn choose me, whom he implies is mafia to mason and not koshi or trfel. Why would mafia rayn mason anyone? Come on now. You KNOW that mafia mason players for a reason. He himself stated that he would mason particular players he thinks he could trick. So his master mafia plan is to mason you and not type for 27 hours. Great plan He doesn’t know my Timezone. 27 hours covers every timezone
He went to sleep when I was around,.
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On June 11 2024 14:28 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 14:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:21 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo Who? Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically I don’t think you know what scum siding means though if you are gonna use it as “everyone who isn’t on the lynch I’m on" I mean all the scum are on the other wagon and all the townies also there are literally scum siding. You know the alignments? Oh fuck off
I’m not the one saying everyone not on my wagon is scumsiding
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