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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:05 AlphaZero wrote: I’m working with trfel who is objectively the towniest player in the game. Why are you not working with town? Trfel isn’t working with me, I can’t do anything about that. Like are you reading this game or a different one? | ||
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Trfel
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Is there anything in particular you want/expect me to work with you on? I'm not going to lynch sandroba. Not only are your reasons either incomprehensible or awful, but I'm voting for a really scummy person with the town leaders who I have to assume, are town, and the other wagon has all of the scummiest people in the game. I'm just not switching, absolutely no way. | ||
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AlphaZero
Korea (South)759 Posts
So why the faux desperation. Fucking weird. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote: no, instead im saying that his interactions with people have not led me to read those people as town/scum. so i find his filter meaningless and not seeking to solve the gameOkay so you are saying that rayn hasn’t posted things that either give you town vibes or scum vibes from him. Therefore it’s scummy to not be scummy? That’s my understanding from what you are saying. Please clarify if I’m misunderstanding your meaning i.e. hes not asking questions to others, that help me to discern *THEIR* alignment | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:06 Trfel wrote: How am I not working with you? Okay fine, sell me on the koshi/rayn partnership. From what I can tell reading your filter, you do think Sandro is mafia independently of anyone else, you just don’t think so atm because koshi and Rayn are going after him | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:19 Trfel wrote: Honestly I'm tempted to lynch Oatsmaster for being the most anti-town player this game, regardless of alignment. This is the exact opposite of working with people btw just you know for your information | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:13 AlphaZero wrote: I dont really understand the oats push here. Cause he called dmb mafia. So from his perspective both major wagons are mafia. And his wagon is leading. So why the faux desperation. Fucking weird. So you don’t see today as critically important to get correct? I’m sorry for you in that case | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:18 Mocsta wrote: no, instead im saying that his interactions with people have not led me to read those people as town/scum. so i find his filter meaningless and not seeking to solve the game i.e. hes not asking questions to others, that help me to discern *THEIR* alignment Huh? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
What’s going on in the whisper thread with rayn | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:20 Oatsmaster wrote: No, I don't think there is much reason to suspect sandroba. The only reason is that he has been low activity/involvement. I could see him being mafia, but when that's the only reason, and there are strong reasons to suspect other people, I'm much, much more inclined to look somewhere else. The fact that his wagon is all the scummiest people in the game seals the deal.Okay fine, sell me on the koshi/rayn partnership. From what I can tell reading your filter, you do think Sandro is mafia independently of anyone else, you just don’t think so atm because koshi and Rayn are going after him If the game weren't in such a rough state, I'd like to think more about sandroba. As it is, he's one of the few players providing any sanity to the game, and there are a lot of people I think are more suspicious than he is. In addition to the likelihood of him being town, I feel forced to hope that he is town, because I think we absolutely need sandroba to be town to have a chance at winning this game. On June 11 2024 13:20 Oatsmaster wrote: My impression of your play is that whenever you are around, you're bullying townies out of the thread and preventing any discussion. If that's working with people to you, idk.This is the exact opposite of working with people btw just you know for your information | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Raynpelikoneet has been extremely illogical and useless. He's been discussing a ton but not showing any insight, critical thinking, or desire to solve the game. His town play is quite strong, this clearly isn't it. Other than sheer post count, I can't think of a redeeming quality in his play. Koshi has been solid at times, but I think he really gave himself up in the confusion over the Vivax lynch and then not lynching Vivax. He's just said enough things that make no sense. I guess maybe this makes me more confident in raynpelikoneet being mafia, but I still think Koshi definitely could be mafia. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote: is this to me or trfel?Not that I’ve heard anyone play that way but you seem to think Sandro is town based on Rayns posts so that’s not even consistent? i dont know where i sit with sandroba.. i had a question that was important to me to discern alignment (re: genuinity of scotts case on az) which you cockblocked instantly. i concede it wasnt guaranteed for sandroba to respond to it though | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:32 Trfel wrote: i know we you have explained your reads here more than i, yet this does capture the essence of how i see/feel/internalise the game.I don't know for sure if raynpelikoneet and Koshi are mafia together, I don't like to work with unflipped associations. But there are plenty of reasons to scumread them individually, and I see no reason they couldn't be mafia together. Raynpelikoneet has been extremely illogical and useless. He's been discussing a ton but not showing any insight, critical thinking, or desire to solve the game. His town play is quite strong, this clearly isn't it. Other than sheer post count, I can't think of a redeeming quality in his play. Koshi has been solid at times, but I think he really gave himself up in the confusion over the Vivax lynch and then not lynching Vivax. He's just said enough things that make no sense. I guess maybe this makes me more confident in raynpelikoneet being mafia, but I still think Koshi definitely could be mafia. in my world we have said the same thing lol.. woe is me  | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:19 Trfel wrote: Honestly I'm tempted to lynch Oatsmaster for being the most anti-town player this game, regardless of alignment. I think constantly saying this is worse than anything I’ve done but got off I guess. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 10 2024 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am sorry guys i dont see it, aside from him being away... why? On June 10 2024 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: And then...he was really townie when he was in thread tbh On June 10 2024 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax go with me on sandroba, mocsta, az, ok? On June 10 2024 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also, can anyone possibly believe this?I dont think they are both mafia. I think sandroba is worth considering. On June 11 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can raynpelikoneet actually think that this:I made the best case anyone has this game. On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is the best case in the game?Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list. That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list. Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"????? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 11 2024 03:33 Trfel wrote: I'm okayish with sandroba for now, honestly (as in, I am not confident enough that he is mafia to lynch him as opposed for waiting to see more from him). Trfel what changed your mind about Sandro from this post to the most recent one you made where you said he’s actually been very sane | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On June 11 2024 13:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Nothing? I think pretty much the same?Trfel what changed your mind about Sandro from this post to the most recent one you made where you said he’s actually been very sane | ||
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