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On June 11 2024 16:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 16:35 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 16:33 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba/DMB/+1
Can we all agree on this? Before we look for the third? IM not sure on Sandro. I think DMB is likely. Yes. Just like we are not sure about DMB. But let's argue which of these 2 is most likely today. Really like the way you guys approached Oats. Except 1-2 adhoms it was enjoyable to read. There is for sure a lot of town in your team.
I think rayn is a better lynch than DMB even.
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@raynpelilkoneet:
I'm sorry for upsetting you. That was not my intention.
I'm just trying to understand your case, and right now I am struggling to do so.
If you'd like to discuss this further, please feel free to explain where I am misunderstanding you, and I will do my best to listen. Otherwise, I am fine to agree to disagree. I'm not trying to misrepresent you, just to get a clear idea of what you are saying.
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Tfrel bro.
It is impossible all mafia is in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats.
If you think 3/4 are you are still in one of the most unique situations in mafia history. No mafia team ever pushes like this.
So more likely it is 2/4 and the 2 townies in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats found the third mafia.
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On June 11 2024 16:38 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 16:37 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 16:35 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 16:33 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba/DMB/+1
Can we all agree on this? Before we look for the third? IM not sure on Sandro. I think DMB is likely. Yes. Just like we are not sure about DMB. But let's argue which of these 2 is most likely today. Really like the way you guys approached Oats. Except 1-2 adhoms it was enjoyable to read. There is for sure a lot of town in your team. I think rayn is a better lynch than DMB even.
Damn. I thinkbrayn would play better as mafia. Because his goal is to not get lynched then.
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On June 11 2024 16:39 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel bro.
It is impossible all in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats is mafia.
If you think 3/4 are you are still in one of the most unique situations in mafia history. No mafia team ever pushes like this.
So more likely it is 2/4 and the 2 townies in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats found the third mafia.
Ebwop
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On June 11 2024 16:38 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 16:37 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 16:35 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 16:33 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba/DMB/+1
Can we all agree on this? Before we look for the third? IM not sure on Sandro. I think DMB is likely. Yes. Just like we are not sure about DMB. But let's argue which of these 2 is most likely today. Really like the way you guys approached Oats. Except 1-2 adhoms it was enjoyable to read. There is for sure a lot of town in your team. I think rayn is a better lynch than DMB even. Stay on rayn please
I'm really enjoying how this is creating some.push pull tension. Need more votes to bring out the rest of town
Game is finally on!
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I am willing to vote dmb.
Not rayn. Not yet.
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If sandrobe becomes town. I am willing to switch rayn. But before that. Never.
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On June 11 2024 16:39 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel bro.
It is impossible all mafia is in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats.
If you think 3/4 are you are still in one of the most unique situations in mafia history. No mafia team ever pushes like this.
So more likely it is 2/4 and the 2 townies in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats found the third mafia. No offense, but Koshi, have you read the thread? I am well aware of this and said this here:On June 11 2024 09:33 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 09:28 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:25 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:21 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 09:12 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 08:49 Mocsta wrote:
Az
To confirm your considering a grouping of
((Rayn/koshi); scott: (dmb / altm lurker)? Im dropping scott for now, I think its pretty clear that I am missing something, because all my big town reads think he is town. (trfel/marv) I like oats as mafia if im being really open and honest. he seems to be flying under the radar a bit too much cool Scott is looking better to me. Glad there is alignment there to not focus today on Scott. I still like the vivax lynch and there does appear to be resistance today from the bottom end of the group which to me is much different build up to kelsier. I will vote rayn if there is enough for majority Oats. I'm still giving a town pass today although he is progressively coming across to me as shitting the thread. I want to give benefit of the doubt he's as lost as me and is equally a provocative style player. I’d also lynch Rayn. Trfel what you think of a Rayn lynch? I'm willing to lynch die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, or Koshi. It's hard for me to figure out which lynch is best. I’m also fine with all that. But I’m relying on your analysis to be honest. That being said I’d prefer to try the harder lynches now while your still alive. I am kinda giving up due to frustration and insanity. I can't figure out which lynch is best, and they're all coming off incredibly scummy. But it's unlikely they are all mafia, next to impossible, it's never ever so simple. Then there's the kicker that even if we figure it out we probably don't have the support. But oh well.
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Really positive night.
Thank you again Oatsmaster.
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On June 11 2024 16:38 Trfel wrote:
@raynpelilkoneet:
I'm sorry for upsetting you. That was not my intention.
I'm just trying to understand your case, and right now I am struggling to do so.
If you'd like to discuss this further, please feel free to explain where I am misunderstanding you, and I will do my best to listen. Otherwise, I am fine to agree to disagree. I'm not trying to misrepresent you, just to get a clear idea of what you are saying. Dude. Remove yourself from the echo chamber.
Step away have a wank and enjoy the hardwork put in to date
Sometimes town just needs to have faith and trust the process
There are some.tone/behavioural shifts emerging. A sense of urgency finally coming out. That means better reads and insights
Let it play and the come back to tell us all about it
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On June 11 2024 16:44 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 16:39 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel bro.
It is impossible all mafia is in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats.
If you think 3/4 are you are still in one of the most unique situations in mafia history. No mafia team ever pushes like this.
So more likely it is 2/4 and the 2 townies in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats found the third mafia. No offense, but Koshi, have you read the thread? I am well aware of this and said this here: Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 09:33 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:28 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:25 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:21 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 09:12 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 08:49 Mocsta wrote:
Az
To confirm your considering a grouping of
((Rayn/koshi); scott: (dmb / altm lurker)? Im dropping scott for now, I think its pretty clear that I am missing something, because all my big town reads think he is town. (trfel/marv) I like oats as mafia if im being really open and honest. he seems to be flying under the radar a bit too much cool Scott is looking better to me. Glad there is alignment there to not focus today on Scott. I still like the vivax lynch and there does appear to be resistance today from the bottom end of the group which to me is much different build up to kelsier. I will vote rayn if there is enough for majority Oats. I'm still giving a town pass today although he is progressively coming across to me as shitting the thread. I want to give benefit of the doubt he's as lost as me and is equally a provocative style player. I’d also lynch Rayn. Trfel what you think of a Rayn lynch? I'm willing to lynch die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, or Koshi. It's hard for me to figure out which lynch is best. I’m also fine with all that. But I’m relying on your analysis to be honest. That being said I’d prefer to try the harder lynches now while your still alive. I am kinda giving up due to frustration and insanity. I can't figure out which lynch is best, and they're all coming off incredibly scummy. But it's unlikely they are all mafia, next to impossible, it's never ever so simple. Then there's the kicker that even if we figure it out we probably don't have the support. But oh well.
Yes. But the part that the townies in that list have a brain and are also trying to solve the game is lost on you.
You were rude to Oats.
You are doomsday posting because we dont exactly think like you do. While if Sandroba is mafia. We are presenting you the full solution to the game and you repay us with talking about conceding.
Not fun bro
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Lol rude to oats
Gtfo
Can't remember koshi
How did you go from mocsta as scum on n1 to choosing dmb over rayn over mocsta
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On June 11 2024 16:56 Mocsta wrote:
Lol rude to oats
Gtfo
Can't remember koshi
How did you go from mocsta as scum on n1 to choosing dmb over rayn over mocsta
He was. Very briefly. But that's ok. I am also rude at times.
N1 was first hour of the day for me. But I had you as mafia because I thought you were pushing a specific narrative in the thread. I thought you were not trying to solve the game as a whole. Just limiting yourself to a specific part.
But I had doubts if I was correct on you. The Vivax excursion left me angry and I came back to what I originally thought. I drew a line before going to bed between the two camps.
And the talk you guys had with Oatsmaster made me see that I was wrong and that there is a strong core in your side of town.
Now we are here. Your camp has a strong towncore, I have Oats and Scott.
The solution is dmb/sandroba and 1 more.
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On June 11 2024 16:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 16:44 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 16:39 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel bro.
It is impossible all mafia is in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats.
If you think 3/4 are you are still in one of the most unique situations in mafia history. No mafia team ever pushes like this.
So more likely it is 2/4 and the 2 townies in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats found the third mafia. No offense, but Koshi, have you read the thread? I am well aware of this and said this here: On June 11 2024 09:33 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:28 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:25 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:21 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 09:12 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 08:49 Mocsta wrote:
Az
To confirm your considering a grouping of
((Rayn/koshi); scott: (dmb / altm lurker)? Im dropping scott for now, I think its pretty clear that I am missing something, because all my big town reads think he is town. (trfel/marv) I like oats as mafia if im being really open and honest. he seems to be flying under the radar a bit too much cool Scott is looking better to me. Glad there is alignment there to not focus today on Scott. I still like the vivax lynch and there does appear to be resistance today from the bottom end of the group which to me is much different build up to kelsier. I will vote rayn if there is enough for majority Oats. I'm still giving a town pass today although he is progressively coming across to me as shitting the thread. I want to give benefit of the doubt he's as lost as me and is equally a provocative style player. I’d also lynch Rayn. Trfel what you think of a Rayn lynch? I'm willing to lynch die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, or Koshi. It's hard for me to figure out which lynch is best. I’m also fine with all that. But I’m relying on your analysis to be honest. That being said I’d prefer to try the harder lynches now while your still alive. I am kinda giving up due to frustration and insanity. I can't figure out which lynch is best, and they're all coming off incredibly scummy. But it's unlikely they are all mafia, next to impossible, it's never ever so simple. Then there's the kicker that even if we figure it out we probably don't have the support. But oh well. Yes. But the part that the townies in that list have a brain and are also trying to solve the game is lost on you. You were rude to Oats. You are doomsday posting because we dont exactly think like you do. While if Sandroba is mafia. We are presenting you the full solution to the game and you repay us with talking about conceding. Not fun bro What?
I was impatient and rude with Oatsmaster. I apologized, and I will try to do better. For what it's worth, he wasn't particularly kind to me either.
I'm well aware that town players can think differently and have different conclusions than me. This is why I have been working to figure out who is mafia and who isn't. For example, I've reached out to die_meatbaby multiple times to try and understand where she is coming from, and if she is town, to try and realize that. She has generally not responded. I know I got frustrated with Oatsmaster, but this wasn't due to the fact that he was disagreeing with me, it was the way he was doing so, with constant comments seemingly trying to get under my skin. I'm not proud of this by an means, but you can't say it's the same as getting mad at someone for simply disagreeing.
I'm not really sorry for getting discouraged? Nothing against Alakaslam at all, stuff happens, but if he's town, that puts us in a really rough spot. When you combine the missing vote with the lack of logic and the antagonizing chip shots, it's pretty darn discouraging.
At the same time, I have a right to play the game and try to find mafia, and a part of that is trying to figure out what is right and what isn't. I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, or frustrating to anyone, but at the same time, if someone says something that I think is wrong, I have a right to say so. Just as anyone else has a right to say so if I say something they think is wrong. It's a two way street.
Yes, I've been far from perfect. But your post above is quite the mischaracterization of my play.
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I am not voting anyone outside of the pool of:
sandroba.
Lynch me if you want.
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I think there is max 1 mafia in Vivax, Tfrel, Mocsta and Tfrel. Potentially 0. So if you 4 want rayn, and rayn does not want to come to me and talk to me, I can vote him.
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On June 11 2024 17:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 16:56 Mocsta wrote:
Lol rude to oats
Gtfo
Can't remember koshi
How did you go from mocsta as scum on n1 to choosing dmb over rayn over mocsta He was. Very briefly. But that's ok. I am also rude at times. N1 was first hour of the day for me. But I had you as mafia because I thought you were pushing a specific narrative in the thread. I thought you were not trying to solve the game as a whole. Just limiting yourself to a specific part. But I had doubts if I was correct on you. The Vivax excursion left me angry and I came back to what I originally thought. I drew a line before going to bed between the two camps. And the talk you guys had with Oatsmaster made me see that I was wrong and that there is a strong core in your side of town. Now we are here. Your camp has a strong towncore, I have Oats and Scott. The solution is dmb/sandroba and 1 more. I need more specificity please
What narrative are you talking about? As in what precisely stood out above all else, and why was that scummy to focus on given that as you said there was only one hour of gameplay notched on your belt.
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On June 11 2024 17:07 Koshi wrote:
I think there is max 1 mafia in Vivax, Tfrel, Mocsta and Tfrel. Potentially 0. So if you 4 want rayn, and rayn does not want to come to me and talk to me, I can vote him.
What do we need to talk about?
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Travel
Stop biting
Im.sorry to say. It's adding noise
Move on. Have a tug..come back and analyse what comes out of this
Please 
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