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On June 11 2024 17:04 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 16:46 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 16:44 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 16:39 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel bro.
It is impossible all mafia is in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats.
If you think 3/4 are you are still in one of the most unique situations in mafia history. No mafia team ever pushes like this.
So more likely it is 2/4 and the 2 townies in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats found the third mafia. No offense, but Koshi, have you read the thread? I am well aware of this and said this here: On June 11 2024 09:33 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:28 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:25 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:21 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 09:12 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 08:49 Mocsta wrote:
Az
To confirm your considering a grouping of
((Rayn/koshi); scott: (dmb / altm lurker)? Im dropping scott for now, I think its pretty clear that I am missing something, because all my big town reads think he is town. (trfel/marv) I like oats as mafia if im being really open and honest. he seems to be flying under the radar a bit too much cool Scott is looking better to me. Glad there is alignment there to not focus today on Scott. I still like the vivax lynch and there does appear to be resistance today from the bottom end of the group which to me is much different build up to kelsier. I will vote rayn if there is enough for majority Oats. I'm still giving a town pass today although he is progressively coming across to me as shitting the thread. I want to give benefit of the doubt he's as lost as me and is equally a provocative style player. I’d also lynch Rayn. Trfel what you think of a Rayn lynch? I'm willing to lynch die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, or Koshi. It's hard for me to figure out which lynch is best. I’m also fine with all that. But I’m relying on your analysis to be honest. That being said I’d prefer to try the harder lynches now while your still alive. I am kinda giving up due to frustration and insanity. I can't figure out which lynch is best, and they're all coming off incredibly scummy. But it's unlikely they are all mafia, next to impossible, it's never ever so simple. Then there's the kicker that even if we figure it out we probably don't have the support. But oh well. Yes. But the part that the townies in that list have a brain and are also trying to solve the game is lost on you. You were rude to Oats. You are doomsday posting because we dont exactly think like you do. While if Sandroba is mafia. We are presenting you the full solution to the game and you repay us with talking about conceding. Not fun bro What? I was impatient and rude with Oatsmaster. I apologized, and I will try to do better. For what it's worth, he wasn't particularly kind to me either. I'm well aware that town players can think differently and have different conclusions than me. This is why I have been working to figure out who is mafia and who isn't. For example, I've reached out to die_meatbaby multiple times to try and understand where she is coming from, and if she is town, to try and realize that. She has generally not responded. I know I got frustrated with Oatsmaster, but this wasn't due to the fact that he was disagreeing with me, it was the way he was doing so, with constant comments seemingly trying to get under my skin. I'm not proud of this by an means, but you can't say it's the same as getting mad at someone for simply disagreeing. I'm not really sorry for getting discouraged? Nothing against Alakaslam at all, stuff happens, but if he's town, that puts us in a really rough spot. When you combine the missing vote with the lack of logic and the antagonizing chip shots, it's pretty darn discouraging. At the same time, I have a right to play the game and try to find mafia, and a part of that is trying to figure out what is right and what isn't. I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, or frustrating to anyone, but at the same time, if someone says something that I think is wrong, I have a right to say so. Just as anyone else has a right to say so if I say something they think is wrong. It's a two way street. Yes, I've been far from perfect. But your post above is quite the mischaracterization of my play.
Yes. I was a little snippy snappy because you asked me if I could read.
You want me to vote rayn? I'll give you my vote.
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On June 11 2024 17:09 Mocsta wrote:Travel Stop biting Im.sorry to say. It's adding noise Move on. Have a tug..come back and analyse what comes out of this Please  trfel sorry
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On June 11 2024 17:07 Koshi wrote:
I think there is max 1 mafia in Vivax, Tfrel, Mocsta and Tfrel. Potentially 0. So if you 4 want rayn, and rayn does not want to come to me and talk to me, I can vote him. Thank you
You are welcome to come again any time
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On June 11 2024 17:08 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:03 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 16:56 Mocsta wrote:
Lol rude to oats
Gtfo
Can't remember koshi
How did you go from mocsta as scum on n1 to choosing dmb over rayn over mocsta He was. Very briefly. But that's ok. I am also rude at times. N1 was first hour of the day for me. But I had you as mafia because I thought you were pushing a specific narrative in the thread. I thought you were not trying to solve the game as a whole. Just limiting yourself to a specific part. But I had doubts if I was correct on you. The Vivax excursion left me angry and I came back to what I originally thought. I drew a line before going to bed between the two camps. And the talk you guys had with Oatsmaster made me see that I was wrong and that there is a strong core in your side of town. Now we are here. Your camp has a strong towncore, I have Oats and Scott. The solution is dmb/sandroba and 1 more. I need more specificity please What narrative are you talking about? As in what precisely stood out above all else, and why was that scummy to focus on given that as you said there was only one hour of gameplay notched on your belt.
Not really useful for me to go back to that. I think I wrote it down and marv agreed. Something about your filter being disconnecred from the game. I read your filter and I think scotts filter close to each other and your filter was less informative about how the game played out. Something like that.
It's how I tried to catch up
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On June 11 2024 17:09 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:04 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 16:46 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 16:44 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 16:39 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel bro.
It is impossible all mafia is in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats.
If you think 3/4 are you are still in one of the most unique situations in mafia history. No mafia team ever pushes like this.
So more likely it is 2/4 and the 2 townies in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats found the third mafia. No offense, but Koshi, have you read the thread? I am well aware of this and said this here: On June 11 2024 09:33 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:28 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:25 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:21 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 09:12 AlphaZero wrote:
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Im dropping scott for now, I think its pretty clear that I am missing something, because all my big town reads think he is town. (trfel/marv)
I like oats as mafia if im being really open and honest. he seems to be flying under the radar a bit too much cool Scott is looking better to me. Glad there is alignment there to not focus today on Scott. I still like the vivax lynch and there does appear to be resistance today from the bottom end of the group which to me is much different build up to kelsier. I will vote rayn if there is enough for majority Oats. I'm still giving a town pass today although he is progressively coming across to me as shitting the thread. I want to give benefit of the doubt he's as lost as me and is equally a provocative style player. I’d also lynch Rayn. Trfel what you think of a Rayn lynch? I'm willing to lynch die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, or Koshi. It's hard for me to figure out which lynch is best. I’m also fine with all that. But I’m relying on your analysis to be honest. That being said I’d prefer to try the harder lynches now while your still alive. I am kinda giving up due to frustration and insanity. I can't figure out which lynch is best, and they're all coming off incredibly scummy. But it's unlikely they are all mafia, next to impossible, it's never ever so simple. Then there's the kicker that even if we figure it out we probably don't have the support. But oh well. Yes. But the part that the townies in that list have a brain and are also trying to solve the game is lost on you. You were rude to Oats. You are doomsday posting because we dont exactly think like you do. While if Sandroba is mafia. We are presenting you the full solution to the game and you repay us with talking about conceding. Not fun bro What? I was impatient and rude with Oatsmaster. I apologized, and I will try to do better. For what it's worth, he wasn't particularly kind to me either. I'm well aware that town players can think differently and have different conclusions than me. This is why I have been working to figure out who is mafia and who isn't. For example, I've reached out to die_meatbaby multiple times to try and understand where she is coming from, and if she is town, to try and realize that. She has generally not responded. I know I got frustrated with Oatsmaster, but this wasn't due to the fact that he was disagreeing with me, it was the way he was doing so, with constant comments seemingly trying to get under my skin. I'm not proud of this by an means, but you can't say it's the same as getting mad at someone for simply disagreeing. I'm not really sorry for getting discouraged? Nothing against Alakaslam at all, stuff happens, but if he's town, that puts us in a really rough spot. When you combine the missing vote with the lack of logic and the antagonizing chip shots, it's pretty darn discouraging. At the same time, I have a right to play the game and try to find mafia, and a part of that is trying to figure out what is right and what isn't. I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, or frustrating to anyone, but at the same time, if someone says something that I think is wrong, I have a right to say so. Just as anyone else has a right to say so if I say something they think is wrong. It's a two way street. Yes, I've been far from perfect. But your post above is quite the mischaracterization of my play. Yes. I was a little snippy snappy because you asked me if I could read. You want me to vote rayn? I'll give you my vote. Okay, that's fair. I apologize.
It was a culmination of frustrations of being asked things I've just said. I know it's natural for people to miss things, I miss things all the time, I just feel like it's been happening a lot this game, almost deliberately, to be obnoxious.
You should vote whoever you think is most likely to flip mafia. I could be wrong. I'm trying to re-evaluate sandroba right now.
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On June 11 2024 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:07 Koshi wrote:
I think there is max 1 mafia in Vivax, Tfrel, Mocsta and Tfrel. Potentially 0. So if you 4 want rayn, and rayn does not want to come to me and talk to me, I can vote him. What do we need to talk about?
You agree that AZ, Mocsta, Tfrel and Vivax were vero constructive and pro town in that conversation with Oats?
Felt like 5 townies talking.
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On June 11 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:08 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:03 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 16:56 Mocsta wrote:
Lol rude to oats
Gtfo
Can't remember koshi
How did you go from mocsta as scum on n1 to choosing dmb over rayn over mocsta He was. Very briefly. But that's ok. I am also rude at times. N1 was first hour of the day for me. But I had you as mafia because I thought you were pushing a specific narrative in the thread. I thought you were not trying to solve the game as a whole. Just limiting yourself to a specific part. But I had doubts if I was correct on you. The Vivax excursion left me angry and I came back to what I originally thought. I drew a line before going to bed between the two camps. And the talk you guys had with Oatsmaster made me see that I was wrong and that there is a strong core in your side of town. Now we are here. Your camp has a strong towncore, I have Oats and Scott. The solution is dmb/sandroba and 1 more. I need more specificity please What narrative are you talking about? As in what precisely stood out above all else, and why was that scummy to focus on given that as you said there was only one hour of gameplay notched on your belt. Not really useful for me to go back to that. I think I wrote it down and marv agreed. Something about your filter being disconnecred from the game. I read your filter and I think scotts filter close to each other and your filter was less informative about how the game played out. Something like that. It's how I tried to catch up yeah ok. That's acceptable
I just need the rayn vote for now
Will check the marv thing in future if necessary
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On June 11 2024 17:12 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:09 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 17:04 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 16:46 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 16:44 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 16:39 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel bro.
It is impossible all mafia is in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats.
If you think 3/4 are you are still in one of the most unique situations in mafia history. No mafia team ever pushes like this.
So more likely it is 2/4 and the 2 townies in Koshi rayn dmb and Oats found the third mafia. No offense, but Koshi, have you read the thread? I am well aware of this and said this here: On June 11 2024 09:33 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:28 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:25 Trfel wrote:On June 11 2024 09:21 AlphaZero wrote:On June 11 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote:
[quote]cool
Scott is looking better to me. Glad there is alignment there to not focus today on Scott.
I still like the vivax lynch and there does appear to be resistance today from the bottom end of the group which to me is much different build up to kelsier.
I will vote rayn if there is enough for majority
Oats. I'm still giving a town pass today although he is progressively coming across to me as shitting the thread. I want to give benefit of the doubt he's as lost as me and is equally a provocative style player. I’d also lynch Rayn. Trfel what you think of a Rayn lynch? I'm willing to lynch die_meatbaby, raynpelikoneet, or Koshi. It's hard for me to figure out which lynch is best. I’m also fine with all that. But I’m relying on your analysis to be honest. That being said I’d prefer to try the harder lynches now while your still alive. I am kinda giving up due to frustration and insanity. I can't figure out which lynch is best, and they're all coming off incredibly scummy. But it's unlikely they are all mafia, next to impossible, it's never ever so simple. Then there's the kicker that even if we figure it out we probably don't have the support. But oh well. Yes. But the part that the townies in that list have a brain and are also trying to solve the game is lost on you. You were rude to Oats. You are doomsday posting because we dont exactly think like you do. While if Sandroba is mafia. We are presenting you the full solution to the game and you repay us with talking about conceding. Not fun bro What? I was impatient and rude with Oatsmaster. I apologized, and I will try to do better. For what it's worth, he wasn't particularly kind to me either. I'm well aware that town players can think differently and have different conclusions than me. This is why I have been working to figure out who is mafia and who isn't. For example, I've reached out to die_meatbaby multiple times to try and understand where she is coming from, and if she is town, to try and realize that. She has generally not responded. I know I got frustrated with Oatsmaster, but this wasn't due to the fact that he was disagreeing with me, it was the way he was doing so, with constant comments seemingly trying to get under my skin. I'm not proud of this by an means, but you can't say it's the same as getting mad at someone for simply disagreeing. I'm not really sorry for getting discouraged? Nothing against Alakaslam at all, stuff happens, but if he's town, that puts us in a really rough spot. When you combine the missing vote with the lack of logic and the antagonizing chip shots, it's pretty darn discouraging. At the same time, I have a right to play the game and try to find mafia, and a part of that is trying to figure out what is right and what isn't. I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, or frustrating to anyone, but at the same time, if someone says something that I think is wrong, I have a right to say so. Just as anyone else has a right to say so if I say something they think is wrong. It's a two way street. Yes, I've been far from perfect. But your post above is quite the mischaracterization of my play. Yes. I was a little snippy snappy because you asked me if I could read. You want me to vote rayn? I'll give you my vote. Okay, that's fair. I apologize. It was a culmination of frustrations of being asked things I've just said. I know it's natural for people to miss things, I miss things all the time, I just feel like it's been happening a lot this game, almost deliberately, to be obnoxious. You should vote whoever you think is most likely to flip mafia. I could be wrong. I'm trying to re-evaluate sandroba right now. kiss and made up. How lovely.
Revaluate as you need just stay on rayn whilst doing it please.
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On June 11 2024 17:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 17:07 Koshi wrote:
I think there is max 1 mafia in Vivax, Tfrel, Mocsta and Tfrel. Potentially 0. So if you 4 want rayn, and rayn does not want to come to me and talk to me, I can vote him. What do we need to talk about? You agree that AZ, Mocsta, Tfrel and Vivax were vero constructive and pro town in that conversation with Oats? Felt like 5 townies talking.
What discussion are you talking about?
The one where Oats tries to tell them to vote for sandroba and everyone else is zero constructive?
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On June 10 2024 07:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2024 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta is playing very well if mafia.
My initial ping was that I read too many posts from him that didnt help me solve the game. And after reading his filter I didnt change my mind. If I would pnly fead Mocsta his filter I would probably have a very bad grasp on this game. Way worse than for example scott his filter. I like this
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On June 11 2024 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:13 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2024 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 17:07 Koshi wrote:
I think there is max 1 mafia in Vivax, Tfrel, Mocsta and Tfrel. Potentially 0. So if you 4 want rayn, and rayn does not want to come to me and talk to me, I can vote him. What do we need to talk about? You agree that AZ, Mocsta, Tfrel and Vivax were vero constructive and pro town in that conversation with Oats? Felt like 5 townies talking. What discussion are you talking about? The one where Oats tries to tell them to vote for sandroba and everyone else is zero constructive?
They are blind to sandroba because the spotlight is on dmb you me
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But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit?
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On June 11 2024 17:17 Koshi wrote:
But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit?
There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba.
Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it.
AZ became dumb after being smart on D1.
Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause.
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On June 11 2024 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:17 Koshi wrote:
But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit? There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba. Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it. AZ became dumb after being smart on D1. Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause.
So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia?
I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of
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Mybe Vivax is too hung up on the fact that he thinks DMB is mafia, and DMB is voting for sandroba?
What choice does DMB have though, as mafia, because she is the counter wagon at the time?
Or DMB is town and smart and voting for mafia.
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On June 11 2024 17:25 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 17:17 Koshi wrote:
But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit? There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba. Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it. AZ became dumb after being smart on D1. Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause. So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia? I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of
are you fucking stupid?
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On June 11 2024 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 17:17 Koshi wrote:
But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit? There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba. Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it. AZ became dumb after being smart on D1. Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause. So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia? I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of are you fucking stupid? let's go with yes as I'm reading what you're writing
Koshi asked a yes/no question and I saw waffles
Stupid, mofo waffles
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On June 11 2024 17:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2024 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 17:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 11 2024 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 11 2024 17:17 Koshi wrote:
But the talk was good. It felt like 5 townies. Did you feel deceit? There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba. Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it. AZ became dumb after being smart on D1. Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause. So you're arguing there was 4-5mafia? I dunno who the 5th is that koshi talks of are you fucking stupid? let's go with yes as I'm reading what you're writing Koshi asked a yes/no question and I saw waffles Stupid, mofo waffles
Tbh that was bad mocsta.
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Come on Koshi can you even see what that guy is writing??
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