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Btw the wagon on me is so bad.
marv is probably just mafia jat has literally no reason to think I am, and is probably mafia anyway. Trfel has literally no reason to think I am Slam is slam Koshi has thought I am mafia every game for 10+ years. I think he just enjoys murdering me.
The only standout is DP
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On March 06 2024 06:45 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:44 Koshi wrote: Palmar and Hapa guys. It's good enough fir D1. Palmar looks way better though. Oh and DP came around.
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On March 06 2024 03:55 justanothertownie wrote: Still very happy with Palmar on the chopping block. He is supposed to be good on day1. Last game he lead a lynch - this game he doesn't have any impact. Its not even the weekend so he is fair game.
On March 06 2024 06:33 Trfel wrote: My apologies, I don't have time to play today. I'll try and catch up later tonight or tomorrow.
Voting for Vivax and Palmar, I don't particularly know why, I'll try and check in to see if I need to switch votes. If I get lynched so be it.
On March 05 2024 16:40 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 16:24 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 16:13 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 16:00 CopCake wrote: Btw Slam, can I get some town reads from you?
Everyone! Be serious, for a little bit. Like who would you lynch? I am not gonna ask save because I know you would save rayn and me. Never send to know For whom the bell tolls. I am voting Palmar VE probs scum with him Sadly Hapa is absent Jealous also gone, why? Perhaps, after all that, it is as simple as trfel But what do I know? It is day 1.
Top stuff guys.
I ctrl+f my name in slam's filter, he has mentioned me like exactly once.
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As for other people.
I stand by the sandroba townread, koshi is probably town too. I like Oats a lot more now for actually making sense. I also like JSL and Vivax.
I'd need VE to actually step up some again, same with Trfel. I had some reads on both but they're weak. DMB is also a weak maybe townread.
iamperfection is making sense, but the guy is smart enough to make sense when there is no pressure on him as either alignment.
DP is a little more wildcardy to me this game, I haven't always agreed with his takes.
TTS, JEalous, Hapa just need to be policied out.
I've not read or even noticed Rels at all which is a bad omen.
rayn is weird to me. I'm again getting the feeling that he's just posting a lot and saying very little, also I really, really don't like that he's not pressuring marv at all in the mason QT it seems.
Idk about CopCake, nothjin one way or the other.
MZ looks kinda bad, but it's very weak as I haven't really read him.
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On March 05 2024 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 23:13 Palmar wrote:JAT looks pretty bad. He has said pretty much nothing about me except that comment about not agreeing with my logic on how Vivax needs to be treated, which isn't alignment indicative. And he's trying to kill me. And his filter is shorter than mine so he can't even claim lurker lynch  Well, I think it should be obvious that I am 100 % sheeping right now to see where this goes. I don't have a reason of my own except for the lack of reasons to townread you. want this one instead?
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On March 06 2024 06:53 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 06:48 Koshi wrote:On March 06 2024 06:47 justanothertownie wrote: Uuuh, exciting. Is it? I think it is. The post itself is disappointing though. Smells like desperation and OMGUS. hahaha. Yeah. It's a big nothing burger. It's a "when I die post"
You can ignore it for now.
I'm going to be so mad if marv is alive by day 4 after this shit.
Like he can lynch me, but he KNOWS he should not be doing that unless he has a really good reason to, which he doesn't.
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On March 06 2024 06:55 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:54 Palmar wrote: As for other people.
I stand by the sandroba townread, koshi is probably town too. I like Oats a lot more now for actually making sense. I also like JSL and Vivax.
I'd need VE to actually step up some again, same with Trfel. I had some reads on both but they're weak. DMB is also a weak maybe townread.
iamperfection is making sense, but the guy is smart enough to make sense when there is no pressure on him as either alignment.
DP is a little more wildcardy to me this game, I haven't always agreed with his takes.
TTS, JEalous, Hapa just need to be policied out.
I've not read or even noticed Rels at all which is a bad omen.
rayn is weird to me. I'm again getting the feeling that he's just posting a lot and saying very little, also I really, really don't like that he's not pressuring marv at all in the mason QT it seems.
Idk about CopCake, nothjin one way or the other.
MZ looks kinda bad, but it's very weak as I haven't really read him. Pile on to trfel let's go
I'd still rather lynch JAT.
Trfel actually sounded ok in some early posts, and I agreed with someone who made a point that he is a really good player that we can count on being active later on.
But his vote on me is obviously atrocious, it's almost so scummy that I can't believe he'd do that as mafia.
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Also wow this Palmar, 5 pages of filter. Very active and productive town. Maybe don't kill?
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Excellent post DP, very insightful about your town friend Palmar.
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I want to point out once again how bad marv's take on me is. I don't even need him to call me town, I just need him to at least give the idea a thought. Even if it's just "hey Palmar is always going to try in mafia, maybe not kill him on day 1.
The dude LIKES playing with me. The fact he hasn't even stopped for a second, can't find a single redeeming thing is pretty bad.
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Pro tip: I don't think any mafia defends me here (so far, just up until this post) so people who have even offhandedly done so (Vivax, Oats, DP, Sandro) are probably pretty townie.
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On March 06 2024 07:04 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:02 Palmar wrote: I want to point out once again how bad marv's take on me is. I don't even need him to call me town, I just need him to at least give the idea a thought. Even if it's just "hey Palmar is always going to try in mafia, maybe not kill him on day 1.
The dude LIKES playing with me. The fact he hasn't even stopped for a second, can't find a single redeeming thing is pretty bad. Agree with this. I also have issues a'la Koshi about rayn hard town reading marv based on the summary he posted which was just like whatever. Sandro is the only one in that circle I am feeling good about right now. Yes, I agree.
Like if I survive I'm probably just never lynching Sandro for that mindmeld.
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Hey I can be good as mafia. But that usually involves taking control of the thread and bullying people, because I also do that as town when I feel like it.
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I just hadn't read the thread all that much Koshi when I talked about Oats.
I've backed off it now.
But you know, I don't really think I can convince you so I'm not really going to try. You have a hardon for killing me, did your best last game as well.
Which is why I always come back to marv, I SHOULD be able to convince him to at least think I'm town.
Will you do the hypothetical Koshi? Assume I'm town and flip, what changes in your stance on the game?
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Marv being wrong on me is pretty bad compared to him being wrong about most other people. There's like maybe 2-3 people he knows as well as me here.
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On March 06 2024 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:
The main reason to lynch him was the fact he was being a lazy bastard and not scumhunting or doing anything at all when ostensibly day one is supposed to be his best day.
So, he was a clear lynch going to bed last night my time.
Now that I have started to catch up again, he has just been scumhunting and trying to solve the game as much as he can before he dies.
This is generally the number one way that people are town when they are going to be lynched, just get as much info in the thread.
I think his tone has looked good since he started trying, particularly the joy that he had when he got the same scumread on you with sandro at the same time.
Now you could say that he is faking this level of engagement as mafia, but I happen to have first hand experience that palmar is absolutely terrible and lazy as mafia and I don't buy it.
I think as mafia he would have not coasted so obviously only to then scum hunt and fake mindmelds later on, probably he would just fakeclaim something and roll the dice that way.
Anyway I am not lynching 5 page palmar who is scumhunting and mindmelding with sandro day one.
I just need to figure out who we are lynching instead.
Like, why not you for example, in the obs you were really smart and here you are thoroughly underwhelming.
Btw, yes I know I'm biased because I'm being defended. But this is EXTREMELY good reasoning for me being town. The bolded stuff, that is. I don't agree with his other points. I can do well as scum and I would probably never fakeclaim anything as mafia on day 1.
I'm mostly emphasizing this because it makes DP look really, really good. He's not just correct about my alignment, he is correct for (mostly) the right reasons.
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On March 06 2024 07:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:08 Koshi wrote: For the people thinking this was a good post by Palmar.
why marv should not be called mafia: 1) marv has a 7 page filter and is actually playing. That alone is enough to not call him mafia D1. 2) Palmar admits the first vote is legit on him. So that means marv came out of hiding to post a legit vote that would and could mean he had to play hard for the rest of the game if town!Palmar brought his A game. It is less likely Mafia!marv would do that because he cba. Town!marv would come out because he thinks it is the best thing to do for town. So this also leans towards a town!marv. This alone would be a good reason not to vote marv D1. 3) marv being wrong on Palmar means fuck all for his alignment. Last game, with Palmar and marv, they both wrongly tunneled Tfrel and Sandroba for 3 days straight, and townread mebaby. They were wrong 3 times, for 3 days. Both didn't catch scum rayn for those 3 days. Maybe I am slightly exaggerating but not too much. So don't think marv is flawless and it makes him mafia.
Why Palmar is mafia: 4) His reads are not good enough. The Oats read; which was at that time his top 1 mafia, was opportunistic and badly thought out. His marv read is just OMGUS and trying to discredit the person who leads his wagon. 5) He can play as a town leader, so him playing like a weasel this game points towards mafia. 6) Doing better is not hard when you start at the bottom of bottoms. It's a horrible point people are making. (calling out DP). He is at his best in this game still doing worse than he did in the previous game.
Kill Palmar. Yeah, but to add onto that marvs read on Palmar is actually really good. Evidence: also last game. And many before. So when I flip town you tunnel marv?
Good.
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On March 06 2024 07:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 07:08 Koshi wrote: For the people thinking this was a good post by Palmar.
why marv should not be called mafia: 1) marv has a 7 page filter and is actually playing. That alone is enough to not call him mafia D1. 2) Palmar admits the first vote is legit on him. So that means marv came out of hiding to post a legit vote that would and could mean he had to play hard for the rest of the game if town!Palmar brought his A game. It is less likely Mafia!marv would do that because he cba. Town!marv would come out because he thinks it is the best thing to do for town. So this also leans towards a town!marv. This alone would be a good reason not to vote marv D1. 3) marv being wrong on Palmar means fuck all for his alignment. Last game, with Palmar and marv, they both wrongly tunneled Tfrel and Sandroba for 3 days straight, and townread mebaby. They were wrong 3 times, for 3 days. Both didn't catch scum rayn for those 3 days. Maybe I am slightly exaggerating but not too much. So don't think marv is flawless and it makes him mafia.
Why Palmar is mafia: 4) His reads are not good enough. The Oats read; which was at that time his top 1 mafia, was opportunistic and badly thought out. His marv read is just OMGUS and trying to discredit the person who leads his wagon. 5) He can play as a town leader, so him playing like a weasel this game points towards mafia. 6) Doing better is not hard when you start at the bottom of bottoms. It's a horrible point people are making. (calling out DP). He is at his best in this game still doing worse than he did in the previous game.
Kill Palmar. Koshi if Palmar is town, after last game you realise he SHOULD be scum reading marv because marv prides himself on being the palmar whisperer and saving him from being mislynched etc. so in this game, assuming palmar is town and marv seems to just be coasting to a palmar lynch here, town!palmar is always going to read marv as mafia. Why now? Why not 2-3 hours ago Because I have infinite faith in marv coming around. 2-3 hours ago I didn't actually think I was going to be killed.
I NEED to pre-empt the "well he was playing like mafia" bullshit and "I would never call him mafia as scum because it's risky cause people think I'm the Palmar oracle" that he has already posted in the thread.
If I do get lynched this needs to be in the thread. That's why I'm pointing it out now.
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On March 06 2024 07:16 Vivax wrote: I'm retownreading Sandro.
If Palmar is mafia it's Trfel and JAT on the bus train atm. Maybe even Slam. Slam looks decidedly worse this game than last, but I also had the mason thing with him in that game which was very helpful in reading him.
I'm on the fence about slam and rayn, I actually don't think Trfel is mafia, but it's a weak townread.
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I know slam thinks I can read him but I really can't, and haven't made much of an effort this game.
If there is mafia on my wagon it's jat and marv.
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