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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 17 2024 23:09 GMT
#9941
Well if you are town and I am throwing the game here I’m sorry palmar.

I’m heading out for my physio I will be back before the flip
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:09 GMT
#9942
On March 09 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Really is frustrating that most people checked out of today


I'm going to revisit Oats. I've been decent with filtering out spew I think which is a strategy I copied from outside of TL.
I think this may be one of his more honest posts, as in that it's mafia he meant, because otherwise it doesn't make much sense considering the VE wagon.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 17 2024 23:10 GMT
#9943
Yeah, I think shennies are not happening. Nobody wants to lynch dmb unfortunately. Stay with Jealous then. I will also leave soon.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 17 2024 23:10 GMT
#9944
On March 18 2024 08:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:00 Palmar wrote:
This town, lynching a 25 page Palmar on a weekend with a 90% marv townread behind me.

What an artist the world is losing!


I don’t think you are getting lynched fwiw.

Iamp hasn't moved. And even then, unless Jealous is town, mafia can just take this lynch as long as even one of them is reasonably hidden.

Like they can sacrifice 2 for 1 here, shut down all discussion for the next 2 cycles as the counterlynches happen, and leave very tired and strategically picked 2 townies left with the best hidden mafia in lylo.

It's going to be me or Jealous, and everyone else should vote the same person. It should be 8v1 in either direction because splitting this allows mafia to control the vote.

I know it won't happen because people are stubborn egomaniacs, but that would allow town to guarantee the lynch with no bullshit shenanigans.

HE'S GIVING YOU THEIR GAME PLAN RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES LMFAO.
This is why I say Palmar first Vivax.

w/e I'm not rehashing that discussion again.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 17 2024 23:11 GMT
#9945
Don't lynch palmar.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 17 2024 23:11 GMT
#9946
I really want palmar to be town.

But I have identified a bias there which is making this hard.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:11 GMT
#9947
On March 18 2024 08:07 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Like the fact this game is so hard points to someone as mafia who is really reasonable and townie looking who is mafia.


Rels ?

Guy with god reads, but absent parked on Palmar.

It‘s who you can bribe me with


I’ve thought he was mafia when I thought palmar is town.

Now I think palmar is mafia.

Do you really want to go into the next phase without at least one of these wagons resolved?


You know I'm never letting Jealous go.
You acknowledged it yesterday, you said it'd be better to get it over with.
But you broke your word, and here we are.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:12 GMT
#9948
On March 18 2024 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:00 Palmar wrote:
This town, lynching a 25 page Palmar on a weekend with a 90% marv townread behind me.

What an artist the world is losing!


I don’t think you are getting lynched fwiw.

Iamp hasn't moved. And even then, unless Jealous is town, mafia can just take this lynch as long as even one of them is reasonably hidden.

Like they can sacrifice 2 for 1 here, shut down all discussion for the next 2 cycles as the counterlynches happen, and leave very tired and strategically picked 2 townies left with the best hidden mafia in lylo.

It's going to be me or Jealous, and everyone else should vote the same person. It should be 8v1 in either direction because splitting this allows mafia to control the vote.

I know it won't happen because people are stubborn egomaniacs, but that would allow town to guarantee the lynch with no bullshit shenanigans.

HE'S GIVING YOU THEIR GAME PLAN RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES LMFAO.
This is why I say Palmar first Vivax.

w/e I'm not rehashing that discussion again.


You sound like me now.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 17 2024 23:14 GMT
#9949
On March 18 2024 08:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Well if you are town and I am throwing the game here I’m sorry palmar.

I’m heading out for my physio I will be back before the flip

From each according to his ability.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 17 2024 23:14 GMT
#9950
On March 18 2024 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:00 Palmar wrote:
This town, lynching a 25 page Palmar on a weekend with a 90% marv townread behind me.

What an artist the world is losing!


I don’t think you are getting lynched fwiw.

Iamp hasn't moved. And even then, unless Jealous is town, mafia can just take this lynch as long as even one of them is reasonably hidden.

Like they can sacrifice 2 for 1 here, shut down all discussion for the next 2 cycles as the counterlynches happen, and leave very tired and strategically picked 2 townies left with the best hidden mafia in lylo.

It's going to be me or Jealous, and everyone else should vote the same person. It should be 8v1 in either direction because splitting this allows mafia to control the vote.

I know it won't happen because people are stubborn egomaniacs, but that would allow town to guarantee the lynch with no bullshit shenanigans.

HE'S GIVING YOU THEIR GAME PLAN RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES LMFAO.
This is why I say Palmar first Vivax.

w/e I'm not rehashing that discussion again.


Rofl
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:14 GMT
#9951
I'll have it engraved on this thread DP.

Give this man a vote, and he will take away yours

- Winston Churchill
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 17 2024 23:16 GMT
#9952
On March 18 2024 08:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:00 Palmar wrote:
This town, lynching a 25 page Palmar on a weekend with a 90% marv townread behind me.

What an artist the world is losing!


I don’t think you are getting lynched fwiw.

Iamp hasn't moved. And even then, unless Jealous is town, mafia can just take this lynch as long as even one of them is reasonably hidden.

Like they can sacrifice 2 for 1 here, shut down all discussion for the next 2 cycles as the counterlynches happen, and leave very tired and strategically picked 2 townies left with the best hidden mafia in lylo.

It's going to be me or Jealous, and everyone else should vote the same person. It should be 8v1 in either direction because splitting this allows mafia to control the vote.

I know it won't happen because people are stubborn egomaniacs, but that would allow town to guarantee the lynch with no bullshit shenanigans.

HE'S GIVING YOU THEIR GAME PLAN RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOUR FACES LMFAO.
This is why I say Palmar first Vivax.

w/e I'm not rehashing that discussion again.


You sound like me now.

I know I know
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 17 2024 23:16 GMT
#9953
On March 18 2024 08:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:04 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Like the fact this game is so hard points to someone as mafia who is really reasonable and townie looking who is mafia.


Rels ?

Guy with god reads, but absent parked on Palmar.

It‘s who you can bribe me with


I’ve thought he was mafia when I thought palmar is town.

Now I think palmar is mafia.

Do you really want to go into the next phase without at least one of these wagons resolved?


You know I'm never letting Jealous go.
You acknowledged it yesterday, you said it'd be better to get it over with.
But you broke your word, and here we are.


I never promised anything to you, quit with this breaking your word BS.

I am actually fine with a jealous lynch btw if that is not super clear already but I put in the work yesterday to try and get the best lynch today.

None of this is fun for me. I really want to be wrong on palmar. I just don’t think I am.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 17 2024 23:17 GMT
#9954
On March 18 2024 08:14 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Well if you are town and I am throwing the game here I’m sorry palmar.

I’m heading out for my physio I will be back before the flip

From each according to his ability.



Jesus Christ 💀
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 17 2024 23:17 GMT
#9955
I'm like 100% certain DP is town because I genuinely believe he's agonizing over this lol
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 17 2024 23:18 GMT
#9956
Anyway boys, see you on the other side.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:26 GMT
#9957
On March 06 2024 08:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:48 Jealous wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:28 Palmar wrote:
I think Jealous is complaining (he didn't quote it correctly) about my post encouraging Hapa to just play at a lower effort level.

I disagree with Jealous, I think that was a very townie post by me.

Yea, my apologies, I only realized on the re-read that I somehow lost that post into somewhere else. But, I'm glad you brought it up. For posterity (so everyone else knows what I was referring to):

On March 05 2024 23:58 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Not a damn thing. I don't want to be a buzz kill or anything, but I literally cannot bring myself to even try every time I sit down and try to start

You don't actually have to read the thread, god knows I haven't.

Just start talking with people. Mafia is incredibly hard and these people spam like their life depends on it. You just kinda have to accept that you're not playing at 100% capacity and be okay with it.


Admitting you haven't read the thread just doesn't feel like a smart thing to be doing regardless of whether you're mafia or town IMO, but especially town. If you're not trying to catch inconsistencies, see apparent partnerships or dissect whether a conflict is genuine or manufactured, what are we doing here? Like, yea, asking questions and using that info to inform your decisions is a thing you're supposed to do, but without a frame of reference it just feels like it's not helping town and can just lead to more confusion than anything.

But, you're a more experienced player than me and might have just been trying to be kind to Hapa, I can concede that. In general I liked how you've been posting recently for the most part, but you were also under the microscope for a bit so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Looking forward to see what you do going forward.

What in the actual fuck is this post


If you read Oats up to exactly this post you can see he probably spewed iamp town already.
Dmb could be mafia based on spew. But Jealous too.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:31 GMT
#9958
On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Especially when she is joining my wagon


I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...

This is a scumslip


On March 06 2024 10:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 10:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Especially when she is joining my wagon


I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...

This is a scumslip


I don't see it.

Reasonable town lynch ie jat is town


This is also nonsense. Conf biased mafia is spewing mafia.

He's precisely right on dmb if he knows she's mafia not when he can see her being town saying DP is pushing a mislynch on the wagon she's currently on.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:32 GMT
#9959
Guess I'm glad we're not doing Rels.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 17 2024 23:35 GMT
#9960
On March 11 2024 13:33 Rels wrote:
My mind is here:

Scum
VE is almost confirmed scum IMO. My scumread started at the fake anger against rayn D1 (or N1? But I think D1), but the rest of his play since then is just an admission of being scum.

CC this cycle has been really, really scummy with her play. Martyring but still hanging out with no real objective and mainly discussing roles and KP targets. It really feels like a mafia that know they will be lynched but also know they have to participate in order to not play against their wincon

DMB has already been very scummy. I know she's has been scumread a lot s town, but the points that I think is not correlated to her style are her entrance where she spoke only in general terms until she was called out on it(I know at least by me, maybe others too), and the dumbtell in particular that looked very forced. Also was not a fan on how she behaved when marv/DP pushed her yesterday. I still haven't had the time to read one of her towngame, that's something that I will need to do

Jealous I hated a few posts from them. Already summarized it for marv yesterday, but basically, I have the feeling that his big posts are there to be townie / believable, not there because they're genuine. Contrary to some other takes I've seen, I didn't find anything particularly townie about them, if we exclude activity. I might be wrong, but I think his take on Vivax earlier was the first time he posted something that really resonated with me, and it was not even alignment related

--
[town]Town[/town]
JAT I've thought was townie for a while for some of his posts and analyses N1, but TBH this is becoming to become weaker and weaker. I can't remember anything they've done lately - I know they've been somewhat active, but can't remember a single thing that influenced my reads. Probably the weakest of my townreads.

Koshi is someone that I thought multiple times was falling off, but actually hit a sprea of posts after catching up and thought once again he was being extremely townie with the way he thought and jumped from idea to idea. Very strong townread.

Palmar, just quoted my reasonning to MZ earlier, really, really don't think he makes those dumbtells as an experienced player. I know dumbtell are always tempting as scum, but this feels like too much, especially in this game where people are being scumread for dumbtells already. I also really liked his last list post (last in the part of the game I've read, haven't read the last 24 hours).

DP is super, super town, in addition to actually having played against their wincon if they're scum by shooting a partner instead of a scummy townie.

MZ has been so doubtful and involved in D2 when there was no reason to, very very strong townread.

iamperfection is a somewhat strong townread. I actualy never filtered him so I'm probably missing a bunch of his posts, but several times, he posted stuff that was either a great find or exactly what I thought at the time.

Vivax is JK. If he's scum and we really have no other protective role, I'm blaming balance there.

JSL is confirmed town.

13 players so I'm missing someone.
Whelp I guess it's me lol

I'm going through Rels filter and he isn't quite the clairvoyant that D1 made him out to be.

To be quite honest, at this point (12 pages), I have to think Rels is more likely town than scum. Yes, he hasn't had much presence, but I also don't think a person welcomed in this community would be such a piece of shit that they would leverage their daughter's health to explain away inactivity. Not that that in itself is AI, but at least there is a reason I believe.

With the activity question out of the way, I think I just didn't give Rels enough credit for their posting. They are clearly invested, their takes are generally sensible with a few exceptions. What I see is a consistent player who isn't shying away from making reads unprompted.

I'm upgrading Rels to townread, but I will finish their filter first to see if there are any irregularities.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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