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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:36 GMT
#9961
On March 07 2024 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:17 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Hi
Anyone voting outside of me or Oatsmaster better have a damned good reason

Not really sure if you realize that miller is a role

Only one way to find out.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

If you're confirmed scum, WP. If you flip VT (Miller), I'm sorry.

Explain how this makes sense? You thought I was town before the check, why would I not be town now?


loooool
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 17 2024 23:38 GMT
#9962
That they would falsely** leverage their daughter's health

Sorry.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:38 GMT
#9963
Ah well.
Palmar isn't mafia.

DMB Jealous DP final answer.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:39 GMT
#9964
On March 07 2024 12:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:21 Rels wrote:
nice

I believe Slam's claim, it just makes sense. Worst case, we trade 1:1

Miller chance is pretty low too

##Vote Oatsmaster

Worst case what? I flip green then you lynch the un cced cop next??


Or nvm actually Rels instead of DP.
Should stop considering DP like I said I would until the other two are gonezo
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 17 2024 23:43 GMT
#9965
On March 18 2024 08:38 Vivax wrote:
Ah well.
Palmar isn't mafia.

DMB Jealous DP final answer.

Both are independently defending me (in one way or another) for the past 24 hours so it's a really primitive take but understandable from your POV.

From my POV tbh it makes me suspicious. Who would gain the most by appearing to defend a townie from ML - but the ML happens anyway because one of them votes for a nonstarter and the other promises to hop off in the case of shennanies - when we are one lynch away from lylo? Could be an easy way to gain town points going into the end game.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 17 2024 23:43 GMT
#9966
On March 18 2024 08:35 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 13:33 Rels wrote:
My mind is here:

Scum
VE is almost confirmed scum IMO. My scumread started at the fake anger against rayn D1 (or N1? But I think D1), but the rest of his play since then is just an admission of being scum.

CC this cycle has been really, really scummy with her play. Martyring but still hanging out with no real objective and mainly discussing roles and KP targets. It really feels like a mafia that know they will be lynched but also know they have to participate in order to not play against their wincon

DMB has already been very scummy. I know she's has been scumread a lot s town, but the points that I think is not correlated to her style are her entrance where she spoke only in general terms until she was called out on it(I know at least by me, maybe others too), and the dumbtell in particular that looked very forced. Also was not a fan on how she behaved when marv/DP pushed her yesterday. I still haven't had the time to read one of her towngame, that's something that I will need to do

Jealous I hated a few posts from them. Already summarized it for marv yesterday, but basically, I have the feeling that his big posts are there to be townie / believable, not there because they're genuine. Contrary to some other takes I've seen, I didn't find anything particularly townie about them, if we exclude activity. I might be wrong, but I think his take on Vivax earlier was the first time he posted something that really resonated with me, and it was not even alignment related

--
[town]Town[/town]
JAT I've thought was townie for a while for some of his posts and analyses N1, but TBH this is becoming to become weaker and weaker. I can't remember anything they've done lately - I know they've been somewhat active, but can't remember a single thing that influenced my reads. Probably the weakest of my townreads.

Koshi is someone that I thought multiple times was falling off, but actually hit a sprea of posts after catching up and thought once again he was being extremely townie with the way he thought and jumped from idea to idea. Very strong townread.

Palmar, just quoted my reasonning to MZ earlier, really, really don't think he makes those dumbtells as an experienced player. I know dumbtell are always tempting as scum, but this feels like too much, especially in this game where people are being scumread for dumbtells already. I also really liked his last list post (last in the part of the game I've read, haven't read the last 24 hours).

DP is super, super town, in addition to actually having played against their wincon if they're scum by shooting a partner instead of a scummy townie.

MZ has been so doubtful and involved in D2 when there was no reason to, very very strong townread.

iamperfection is a somewhat strong townread. I actualy never filtered him so I'm probably missing a bunch of his posts, but several times, he posted stuff that was either a great find or exactly what I thought at the time.

Vivax is JK. If he's scum and we really have no other protective role, I'm blaming balance there.

JSL is confirmed town.

13 players so I'm missing someone.
Whelp I guess it's me lol

I'm going through Rels filter and he isn't quite the clairvoyant that D1 made him out to be.

To be quite honest, at this point (12 pages), I have to think Rels is more likely town than scum. Yes, he hasn't had much presence, but I also don't think a person welcomed in this community would be such a piece of shit that they would leverage their daughter's health to explain away inactivity. Not that that in itself is AI, but at least there is a reason I believe.

With the activity question out of the way, I think I just didn't give Rels enough credit for their posting. They are clearly invested, their takes are generally sensible with a few exceptions. What I see is a consistent player who isn't shying away from making reads unprompted.

I'm upgrading Rels to townread, but I will finish their filter first to see if there are any irregularities.


DP is that you writing this again.
This isn't Jealous english
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 17 2024 23:44 GMT
#9967
On March 18 2024 08:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:35 Jealous wrote:
On March 11 2024 13:33 Rels wrote:
My mind is here:

Scum
VE is almost confirmed scum IMO. My scumread started at the fake anger against rayn D1 (or N1? But I think D1), but the rest of his play since then is just an admission of being scum.

CC this cycle has been really, really scummy with her play. Martyring but still hanging out with no real objective and mainly discussing roles and KP targets. It really feels like a mafia that know they will be lynched but also know they have to participate in order to not play against their wincon

DMB has already been very scummy. I know she's has been scumread a lot s town, but the points that I think is not correlated to her style are her entrance where she spoke only in general terms until she was called out on it(I know at least by me, maybe others too), and the dumbtell in particular that looked very forced. Also was not a fan on how she behaved when marv/DP pushed her yesterday. I still haven't had the time to read one of her towngame, that's something that I will need to do

Jealous I hated a few posts from them. Already summarized it for marv yesterday, but basically, I have the feeling that his big posts are there to be townie / believable, not there because they're genuine. Contrary to some other takes I've seen, I didn't find anything particularly townie about them, if we exclude activity. I might be wrong, but I think his take on Vivax earlier was the first time he posted something that really resonated with me, and it was not even alignment related

--
[town]Town[/town]
JAT I've thought was townie for a while for some of his posts and analyses N1, but TBH this is becoming to become weaker and weaker. I can't remember anything they've done lately - I know they've been somewhat active, but can't remember a single thing that influenced my reads. Probably the weakest of my townreads.

Koshi is someone that I thought multiple times was falling off, but actually hit a sprea of posts after catching up and thought once again he was being extremely townie with the way he thought and jumped from idea to idea. Very strong townread.

Palmar, just quoted my reasonning to MZ earlier, really, really don't think he makes those dumbtells as an experienced player. I know dumbtell are always tempting as scum, but this feels like too much, especially in this game where people are being scumread for dumbtells already. I also really liked his last list post (last in the part of the game I've read, haven't read the last 24 hours).

DP is super, super town, in addition to actually having played against their wincon if they're scum by shooting a partner instead of a scummy townie.

MZ has been so doubtful and involved in D2 when there was no reason to, very very strong townread.

iamperfection is a somewhat strong townread. I actualy never filtered him so I'm probably missing a bunch of his posts, but several times, he posted stuff that was either a great find or exactly what I thought at the time.

Vivax is JK. If he's scum and we really have no other protective role, I'm blaming balance there.

JSL is confirmed town.

13 players so I'm missing someone.
Whelp I guess it's me lol

I'm going through Rels filter and he isn't quite the clairvoyant that D1 made him out to be.

To be quite honest, at this point (12 pages), I have to think Rels is more likely town than scum. Yes, he hasn't had much presence, but I also don't think a person welcomed in this community would be such a piece of shit that they would leverage their daughter's health to explain away inactivity. Not that that in itself is AI, but at least there is a reason I believe.

With the activity question out of the way, I think I just didn't give Rels enough credit for their posting. They are clearly invested, their takes are generally sensible with a few exceptions. What I see is a consistent player who isn't shying away from making reads unprompted.

I'm upgrading Rels to townread, but I will finish their filter first to see if there are any irregularities.


DP is that you writing this again.
This isn't Jealous english

Genuinely curious as to what you find characteristic of DP!English and Jealous!English.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 17 2024 23:51 GMT
#9968
On March 11 2024 14:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 12:16 Vivax wrote:
Jealous great effort but posting so much is scummy when he should already think Cop and Ve are tied.
I think he’s ignoring the shitfest around him to hide in plain sight by being performative, unlike ve and palmar.

Also still not acknowledging cop fought the claim just as hard as jat.

Adjusting vote to Jealous.
Mz, Dp, Jealous.

Koshi traitor
Cop vengeful
No vet in game

My guess atm

Found this on Jealous, pretty stupid logic TBH? The easy way for scum when there are clear wagons that you can't control is to AFK. Of course activity doesn't make him town by itself (I actually think he could be scum!!!), but scumreading him for that???

We're approaching a mathematically impossible number of Vivax potential scums defending a scum!Jealous in his world and a mathematically hilarious amount of Vivax horrible reads.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 17 2024 23:54 GMT
#9969
On March 18 2024 08:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:35 Jealous wrote:
On March 11 2024 13:33 Rels wrote:
My mind is here:

Scum
VE is almost confirmed scum IMO. My scumread started at the fake anger against rayn D1 (or N1? But I think D1), but the rest of his play since then is just an admission of being scum.

CC this cycle has been really, really scummy with her play. Martyring but still hanging out with no real objective and mainly discussing roles and KP targets. It really feels like a mafia that know they will be lynched but also know they have to participate in order to not play against their wincon

DMB has already been very scummy. I know she's has been scumread a lot s town, but the points that I think is not correlated to her style are her entrance where she spoke only in general terms until she was called out on it(I know at least by me, maybe others too), and the dumbtell in particular that looked very forced. Also was not a fan on how she behaved when marv/DP pushed her yesterday. I still haven't had the time to read one of her towngame, that's something that I will need to do

Jealous I hated a few posts from them. Already summarized it for marv yesterday, but basically, I have the feeling that his big posts are there to be townie / believable, not there because they're genuine. Contrary to some other takes I've seen, I didn't find anything particularly townie about them, if we exclude activity. I might be wrong, but I think his take on Vivax earlier was the first time he posted something that really resonated with me, and it was not even alignment related

--
[town]Town[/town]
JAT I've thought was townie for a while for some of his posts and analyses N1, but TBH this is becoming to become weaker and weaker. I can't remember anything they've done lately - I know they've been somewhat active, but can't remember a single thing that influenced my reads. Probably the weakest of my townreads.

Koshi is someone that I thought multiple times was falling off, but actually hit a sprea of posts after catching up and thought once again he was being extremely townie with the way he thought and jumped from idea to idea. Very strong townread.

Palmar, just quoted my reasonning to MZ earlier, really, really don't think he makes those dumbtells as an experienced player. I know dumbtell are always tempting as scum, but this feels like too much, especially in this game where people are being scumread for dumbtells already. I also really liked his last list post (last in the part of the game I've read, haven't read the last 24 hours).

DP is super, super town, in addition to actually having played against their wincon if they're scum by shooting a partner instead of a scummy townie.

MZ has been so doubtful and involved in D2 when there was no reason to, very very strong townread.

iamperfection is a somewhat strong townread. I actualy never filtered him so I'm probably missing a bunch of his posts, but several times, he posted stuff that was either a great find or exactly what I thought at the time.

Vivax is JK. If he's scum and we really have no other protective role, I'm blaming balance there.

JSL is confirmed town.

13 players so I'm missing someone.
Whelp I guess it's me lol

I'm going through Rels filter and he isn't quite the clairvoyant that D1 made him out to be.

To be quite honest, at this point (12 pages), I have to think Rels is more likely town than scum. Yes, he hasn't had much presence, but I also don't think a person welcomed in this community would be such a piece of shit that they would leverage their daughter's health to explain away inactivity. Not that that in itself is AI, but at least there is a reason I believe.

With the activity question out of the way, I think I just didn't give Rels enough credit for their posting. They are clearly invested, their takes are generally sensible with a few exceptions. What I see is a consistent player who isn't shying away from making reads unprompted.

I'm upgrading Rels to townread, but I will finish their filter first to see if there are any irregularities.


DP is that you writing this again.
This isn't Jealous english


I genuinely think jealous makes way less mistakes than I do, he does writing as a side gig or something similar
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 17 2024 23:55 GMT
#9970
On March 18 2024 08:43 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:38 Vivax wrote:
Ah well.
Palmar isn't mafia.

DMB Jealous DP final answer.

Both are independently defending me (in one way or another) for the past 24 hours so it's a really primitive take but understandable from your POV.

From my POV tbh it makes me suspicious. Who would gain the most by appearing to defend a townie from ML - but the ML happens anyway because one of them votes for a nonstarter and the other promises to hop off in the case of shennanies - when we are one lynch away from lylo? Could be an easy way to gain town points going into the end game.


I’m not swapping with normal shenanigans just in the last second swap around shit palmar was talking about.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 18 2024 00:02 GMT
#9971
On March 15 2024 10:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 10:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 15 2024 10:26 Rels wrote:
Hey, I'm finally free. Daughter took a while to sleep, but I could catch up almost everything but the last 2-3 pages on my phone. I have a bunch of posts I want to talk about, to give a summary of my feeling:
- Palmar is still scum. Didn't anything that made me change my mind. Him changing his lock town read based on a single post after I switch to him being scum is ridiculous - it's OMGUS. I hate how he's ready to lynch anyone that can be lynched too this phase - if I have the tabs open on my phone I'll post them
- JAT is seeing the game 99% like me, with the same posts leading to the same thoughts. The only exception is Palmar
- Jealous still didn't post anything that makes me think he could be town, on the contrary, he's awfully calm about being lynched. Would be happy with him being lynched

Jealous or cop then ?

?? Jealous of course. Cop is town IMO. Unless something hapepned in the 2 pages I didn't read

I don't think that scum!Rels remains so invested in a TvT vote. I get how having me lynched over CC is better for scum (potentially), as someone else said earlier. However. I don't think scum!Rels sticks his neck out repeatedly for that outcome around pages 18-20 of his filter.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 18 2024 00:03 GMT
#9972
finally finished work. I put so much alcohol in the cocktails, that people were immediately drunk and left the bar.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 18 2024 00:03 GMT
#9973
On March 18 2024 08:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:43 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:38 Vivax wrote:
Ah well.
Palmar isn't mafia.

DMB Jealous DP final answer.

Both are independently defending me (in one way or another) for the past 24 hours so it's a really primitive take but understandable from your POV.

From my POV tbh it makes me suspicious. Who would gain the most by appearing to defend a townie from ML - but the ML happens anyway because one of them votes for a nonstarter and the other promises to hop off in the case of shennanies - when we are one lynch away from lylo? Could be an easy way to gain town points going into the end game.


I’m not swapping with normal shenanigans just in the last second swap around shit palmar was talking about.

Can you explain the difference between the two, or say this in a different way?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 18 2024 00:03 GMT
#9974
On March 18 2024 08:38 Vivax wrote:
Ah well.
Palmar isn't mafia.

DMB Jealous DP final answer.

Why you changed you read on me?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 18 2024 00:04 GMT
#9975
On March 18 2024 09:03 die_meatbaby wrote:
finally finished work. I put so much alcohol in the cocktails, that people were immediately drunk and left the bar.

The IRL hero we deserve. Cheers to you, thank you for your service 🍻
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 18 2024 00:05 GMT
#9976
On March 18 2024 08:44 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:43 Vivax wrote:
On March 18 2024 08:35 Jealous wrote:
On March 11 2024 13:33 Rels wrote:
My mind is here:

Scum
VE is almost confirmed scum IMO. My scumread started at the fake anger against rayn D1 (or N1? But I think D1), but the rest of his play since then is just an admission of being scum.

CC this cycle has been really, really scummy with her play. Martyring but still hanging out with no real objective and mainly discussing roles and KP targets. It really feels like a mafia that know they will be lynched but also know they have to participate in order to not play against their wincon

DMB has already been very scummy. I know she's has been scumread a lot s town, but the points that I think is not correlated to her style are her entrance where she spoke only in general terms until she was called out on it(I know at least by me, maybe others too), and the dumbtell in particular that looked very forced. Also was not a fan on how she behaved when marv/DP pushed her yesterday. I still haven't had the time to read one of her towngame, that's something that I will need to do

Jealous I hated a few posts from them. Already summarized it for marv yesterday, but basically, I have the feeling that his big posts are there to be townie / believable, not there because they're genuine. Contrary to some other takes I've seen, I didn't find anything particularly townie about them, if we exclude activity. I might be wrong, but I think his take on Vivax earlier was the first time he posted something that really resonated with me, and it was not even alignment related

--
[town]Town[/town]
JAT I've thought was townie for a while for some of his posts and analyses N1, but TBH this is becoming to become weaker and weaker. I can't remember anything they've done lately - I know they've been somewhat active, but can't remember a single thing that influenced my reads. Probably the weakest of my townreads.

Koshi is someone that I thought multiple times was falling off, but actually hit a sprea of posts after catching up and thought once again he was being extremely townie with the way he thought and jumped from idea to idea. Very strong townread.

Palmar, just quoted my reasonning to MZ earlier, really, really don't think he makes those dumbtells as an experienced player. I know dumbtell are always tempting as scum, but this feels like too much, especially in this game where people are being scumread for dumbtells already. I also really liked his last list post (last in the part of the game I've read, haven't read the last 24 hours).

DP is super, super town, in addition to actually having played against their wincon if they're scum by shooting a partner instead of a scummy townie.

MZ has been so doubtful and involved in D2 when there was no reason to, very very strong townread.

iamperfection is a somewhat strong townread. I actualy never filtered him so I'm probably missing a bunch of his posts, but several times, he posted stuff that was either a great find or exactly what I thought at the time.

Vivax is JK. If he's scum and we really have no other protective role, I'm blaming balance there.

JSL is confirmed town.

13 players so I'm missing someone.
Whelp I guess it's me lol

I'm going through Rels filter and he isn't quite the clairvoyant that D1 made him out to be.

To be quite honest, at this point (12 pages), I have to think Rels is more likely town than scum. Yes, he hasn't had much presence, but I also don't think a person welcomed in this community would be such a piece of shit that they would leverage their daughter's health to explain away inactivity. Not that that in itself is AI, but at least there is a reason I believe.

With the activity question out of the way, I think I just didn't give Rels enough credit for their posting. They are clearly invested, their takes are generally sensible with a few exceptions. What I see is a consistent player who isn't shying away from making reads unprompted.

I'm upgrading Rels to townread, but I will finish their filter first to see if there are any irregularities.


DP is that you writing this again.
This isn't Jealous english

Genuinely curious as to what you find characteristic of DP!English and Jealous!English.


DP english is laconic and orderly.
Yours is more like a coked up porn show
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 18 2024 00:06 GMT
#9977
On March 18 2024 09:03 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2024 08:38 Vivax wrote:
Ah well.
Palmar isn't mafia.

DMB Jealous DP final answer.

Why you changed you read on me?


I think Oats wanted to throw you under the bus
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 18 2024 00:07 GMT
#9978
On March 18 2024 07:57 Palmar wrote:
My list stands: from towny to scummy

Palmar
DP
Vivax
iamp
jat
Rels
MZ
Jealous
DMB

Yes I think DMB may be the scummiest person here.

I am almost certainly giving a shitty townread to a mafia somewhere in there. Despite the concerns regarding iamp it also may just be jat, or even one of the mechanically "confirmed" players. Sadly that probably won't be my job to deal with.



why am I the scummiest person here?
I lynched Oats without any more thougts after Slam confirmed him. People here were actually trying to think that he could be miller (very small chance btw) and voted in between on other people and then before lynch back on oats. Like wtf was that. When a cop is telling us that he is scum then we vote him!!!!
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 18 2024 00:08 GMT
#9979
On March 15 2024 10:59 Rels wrote:
fuck I hope I'm wrong
Even happy being lynched tomorrow if needed, it would clear the game so much. DMB would be conf town at least

This post is so WIFOM for me but I just straight up don't like it. Probably the first post from Rels where I just straight up hated it. I guess that is saying something too, though.

I don't think Rels' filter adequately explains how this would clear DMB, either.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 18 2024 00:08 GMT
#9980
Is iamperfection around?
Guy also reminds me of two players from other sites
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