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On March 17 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 05:48 Jealous wrote:
Overall I'd say that MZ looks more townie in the mason chat alone, though it wouldn't be too hard to fake that and leading off with a TR does feel a little awkward unprompted IMO. Kinda like you're buttering him up, which I think is possible as both SvT and TvS and TvT for that matter, so really goes back to my thinking that it is NAI or WIFOM at best.
Palmar just looks wholly disinterested which I think leans slightly more scummy overall but that is WIFOM too, I imagine scum would in general at least try to look interested. If he truly thinks they are stupid then it's NAI, it would have to be a belief that he has in a vacuum outside of this specific game. I guess if anyone has masoned before with Palmar outside of Slam, now would be a good time to compare that to previous occurrences to see if there is some inconsistency there. And you too. I am very interested in this game. I’m one of like the top 3 players in terms of games played and this may be the longest filter I’ve ever produced. I am very interested in the game. No idea why people feel comfortable pushing the idea I’m not interested or haven’t done stuff. If you wanna push that I’ve been wrong or that I’ve been unsure or flip floppy or whatever that’s fine. But I am absolutely interested
This post was about the Mason chat. I think you will agree with me that you looked wholly disinterested there.
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On March 17 2024 06:30 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2024 05:48 Jealous wrote:
Overall I'd say that MZ looks more townie in the mason chat alone, though it wouldn't be too hard to fake that and leading off with a TR does feel a little awkward unprompted IMO. Kinda like you're buttering him up, which I think is possible as both SvT and TvS and TvT for that matter, so really goes back to my thinking that it is NAI or WIFOM at best.
Palmar just looks wholly disinterested which I think leans slightly more scummy overall but that is WIFOM too, I imagine scum would in general at least try to look interested. If he truly thinks they are stupid then it's NAI, it would have to be a belief that he has in a vacuum outside of this specific game. I guess if anyone has masoned before with Palmar outside of Slam, now would be a good time to compare that to previous occurrences to see if there is some inconsistency there. And you too. I am very interested in this game. I’m one of like the top 3 players in terms of games played and this may be the longest filter I’ve ever produced. I am very interested in the game. No idea why people feel comfortable pushing the idea I’m not interested or haven’t done stuff. If you wanna push that I’ve been wrong or that I’ve been unsure or flip floppy or whatever that’s fine. But I am absolutely interested This post was about the Mason chat. I think you will agree with me that you looked wholly disinterested there.
I don’t see the point in mason chats.
Go read last game or even a little exchange I had with Marv this game for confirmation
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On March 17 2024 06:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:30 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2024 05:48 Jealous wrote:
Overall I'd say that MZ looks more townie in the mason chat alone, though it wouldn't be too hard to fake that and leading off with a TR does feel a little awkward unprompted IMO. Kinda like you're buttering him up, which I think is possible as both SvT and TvS and TvT for that matter, so really goes back to my thinking that it is NAI or WIFOM at best.
Palmar just looks wholly disinterested which I think leans slightly more scummy overall but that is WIFOM too, I imagine scum would in general at least try to look interested. If he truly thinks they are stupid then it's NAI, it would have to be a belief that he has in a vacuum outside of this specific game. I guess if anyone has masoned before with Palmar outside of Slam, now would be a good time to compare that to previous occurrences to see if there is some inconsistency there. And you too. I am very interested in this game. I’m one of like the top 3 players in terms of games played and this may be the longest filter I’ve ever produced. I am very interested in the game. No idea why people feel comfortable pushing the idea I’m not interested or haven’t done stuff. If you wanna push that I’ve been wrong or that I’ve been unsure or flip floppy or whatever that’s fine. But I am absolutely interested This post was about the Mason chat. I think you will agree with me that you looked wholly disinterested there. I don’t see the point in mason chats. Go read last game or even a little exchange I had with Marv this game for confirmation
well according to the log you basically looked for blues and said you were voting for the lolz
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On March 17 2024 06:24 iamperfection wrote:
Rels just voted palmar and decided to afk.
DMB chimed in with a lol and nothing else.
This is a critical cycle we need input.
The mayor said I was drawing attention away from Jealous when I brought this up.
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On March 17 2024 06:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:30 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2024 05:48 Jealous wrote:
Overall I'd say that MZ looks more townie in the mason chat alone, though it wouldn't be too hard to fake that and leading off with a TR does feel a little awkward unprompted IMO. Kinda like you're buttering him up, which I think is possible as both SvT and TvS and TvT for that matter, so really goes back to my thinking that it is NAI or WIFOM at best.
Palmar just looks wholly disinterested which I think leans slightly more scummy overall but that is WIFOM too, I imagine scum would in general at least try to look interested. If he truly thinks they are stupid then it's NAI, it would have to be a belief that he has in a vacuum outside of this specific game. I guess if anyone has masoned before with Palmar outside of Slam, now would be a good time to compare that to previous occurrences to see if there is some inconsistency there. And you too. I am very interested in this game. I’m one of like the top 3 players in terms of games played and this may be the longest filter I’ve ever produced. I am very interested in the game. No idea why people feel comfortable pushing the idea I’m not interested or haven’t done stuff. If you wanna push that I’ve been wrong or that I’ve been unsure or flip floppy or whatever that’s fine. But I am absolutely interested This post was about the Mason chat. I think you will agree with me that you looked wholly disinterested there. I don’t see the point in mason chats. Go read last game or even a little exchange I had with Marv this game for confirmation
Eh, at least one of your posts would beg to differ. Please see this post I made recently:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=467#9327
Could you explain the apparent inconsistency here?
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On March 17 2024 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:24 iamperfection wrote:
Rels just voted palmar and decided to afk.
DMB chimed in with a lol and nothing else.
This is a critical cycle we need input. The mayor said I was drawing attention away from Jealous when I brought this up.
Someone who was on the Jealous wagon died yesterday it wasn't Palmar, or Rels, or JAT.
I find it very hard to believe if you bring up those on copcake (and yes I know about my take on DP but I don't want to do him today just juggling him)
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And Koshi wasn't that far off from being mislynchable with enough effort
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On March 17 2024 06:38 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:32 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2024 06:30 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2024 05:48 Jealous wrote:
Overall I'd say that MZ looks more townie in the mason chat alone, though it wouldn't be too hard to fake that and leading off with a TR does feel a little awkward unprompted IMO. Kinda like you're buttering him up, which I think is possible as both SvT and TvS and TvT for that matter, so really goes back to my thinking that it is NAI or WIFOM at best.
Palmar just looks wholly disinterested which I think leans slightly more scummy overall but that is WIFOM too, I imagine scum would in general at least try to look interested. If he truly thinks they are stupid then it's NAI, it would have to be a belief that he has in a vacuum outside of this specific game. I guess if anyone has masoned before with Palmar outside of Slam, now would be a good time to compare that to previous occurrences to see if there is some inconsistency there. And you too. I am very interested in this game. I’m one of like the top 3 players in terms of games played and this may be the longest filter I’ve ever produced. I am very interested in the game. No idea why people feel comfortable pushing the idea I’m not interested or haven’t done stuff. If you wanna push that I’ve been wrong or that I’ve been unsure or flip floppy or whatever that’s fine. But I am absolutely interested This post was about the Mason chat. I think you will agree with me that you looked wholly disinterested there. I don’t see the point in mason chats. Go read last game or even a little exchange I had with Marv this game for confirmation Eh, at least one of your posts would beg to differ. Please see this post I made recently: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=467#9327Could you explain the apparent inconsistency here?
Where is the inconsistency or am i an idiot?
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On March 17 2024 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:24 iamperfection wrote:
Rels just voted palmar and decided to afk.
DMB chimed in with a lol and nothing else.
This is a critical cycle we need input. The mayor said I was drawing attention away from Jealous when I brought this up.
I know that I'm obviously biased in this situation, but I would implore you to consider Vivax' track record so far and maybe consider not listening to his commands when it comes to who you should or should not read, who you should or should not vote for, etc.
Getting a blue role and being voted mayor to be safe does not make him infallible.
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On March 17 2024 06:27 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:08 justanothertownie wrote:
I also commented on MZs day1 progression in my large post about him. It is objectively scummy. But also extremely brazen if he is mafia. I don't know if brazen is the term I'd use, because they put in enough effort to preempt criticism. When I think brazen I think of a person with no fucks to give. MZ clearly gave a lot of fucks. The scum approach just makes too much sense to me. To boil it down, it's basically: 1. Push hard for an Oats lynch after the flip, so they look neutral-to-good when Oats is lynched. 2. Berate anyone on other wagons when they don't have much steam, effect is similar to #1. 3. When the wagon starts gaining steam, make many posts explaining how you're having a change of heart and why, making it seem like a natural development. 4. "Aw shucks, y'all convinced me. My fault." And given that it was D2 and the game is still pretty much wide open, there will still be a lot of people looking elsewhere, other townies making questionable plays, and in this game, an easy ML on VE. I think it could have been a calculated gamble.
But VE was always going to be an easy mislynch. Evidence: day3. The only thing that changes by going after VE is the order of the lynches. And that MZ looks bad now.
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On March 17 2024 06:42 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 17 2024 06:24 iamperfection wrote:
Rels just voted palmar and decided to afk.
DMB chimed in with a lol and nothing else.
This is a critical cycle we need input. The mayor said I was drawing attention away from Jealous when I brought this up. I know that I'm obviously biased in this situation, but I would implore you to consider Vivax' track record so far and maybe consider not listening to his commands when it comes to who you should or should not read, who you should or should not vote for, etc. Getting a blue role and being voted mayor to be safe does not make him infallible.
It's not only my lynch but good attempt. I don't want the credit for you I just want to be part of a group of people who see what makes you scum and succeeds in gathering votes on you.
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On March 17 2024 06:39 Vivax wrote:
And Koshi wasn't that far off from being mislynchable with enough effort
(x) doubt
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On March 17 2024 06:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:39 Vivax wrote:
And Koshi wasn't that far off from being mislynchable with enough effort (x) doubt
In this stage every vote is a threat and they removed one from Jealous
The NK wifom gets thinner
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The hard part is getting iamperfection to vote Jealous he just sees big post and goes into awe and stupor
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I'm crazy enough to believe we didn't pull it off with both his mates voting him. They felt my pain.
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On March 17 2024 06:48 Vivax wrote:
The hard part is getting iamperfection to vote Jealous he just sees big post and goes into awe and stupor
it had links vivax linksSSSSSSSSSS
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On March 17 2024 06:50 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:48 Vivax wrote:
The hard part is getting iamperfection to vote Jealous he just sees big post and goes into awe and stupor it had links vivax linksSSSSSSSSSS
The effort is really impressive ngl. Effort is only loosely connected with alignment though. Depending on the player.
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On March 17 2024 06:15 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 17 2024 05:18 iamperfection wrote:
Jealous did you read the whole palmar mz mason dynamic going on? I'm voting Palmar now, I think Jealous is prepping a defense of him which looks bad but Palmar has still done jack shit and I'm gonna honor the Koshi reads. Hey Mz. You actually know me well enough. Do you stand by the statement that I have done “jack shit” on day 4? And now on day 5. Do you believe that me playing less on a weekend is alignment indicative?
It's hard not to come to that conclusion, I know most of you don't watch NBA basketball but this reference to a player running around looking like he's playing defense when in reality he's not doing anything has pretty much been actually how I see you this game:
Pat Bev trick y'all man
On March 14 2024 19:16 Palmar wrote:
Just sheep DP to victory and stop thinking, I'm bad at it anyway
On March 15 2024 07:21 Palmar wrote:
I'll happily just let DP make the call. Game is annoying now because we've brought this bullshit into it.
Maybe just lynch Koshi out of spite.
But realistically, I think it's gonna be like Rels or MZ
I'm not going to quote your whole filter like Jealous did but I'm hard pressed to find reads over the last few days that you stick by or bother to push. Yesterday you managed to scumread: Me and Rels in the above post
On March 14 2024 06:58 Palmar wrote:
I've for some reason played extremely carefully this game and it's gotten me nowhere. I've sat on reads to try to placate people and be a good boy but I think i'm just kinda done with it.
I think iamp is mafia
Iamp
On March 14 2024 19:15 Palmar wrote:
maybe the mafia is just jat rels and jealous or something
That would solve the game, absolve all the shitty lynchbaits and insane people and whatever.
JAT Jealous and Rels
On March 15 2024 07:22 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm probably not lynching anyone that has put in actual real effort today (dp, me, vivax, koshi, iamp, jat) and I'm just gonna pretend cc doesn't exist. This leaves jealous, rels, mz, dmb
Here's the same as above + DMB
You literally found a scum reason for every player in some manner except for DP and Vivax. And then you proceeded to sit back and wait for DP/Vivax/Koshi to tell you where to vote. If that's not scum throwing shit at a wall waiting to see what wagon develops then idk what is.
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On March 17 2024 06:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 17 2024 06:24 iamperfection wrote:
Rels just voted palmar and decided to afk.
DMB chimed in with a lol and nothing else.
This is a critical cycle we need input. The mayor said I was drawing attention away from Jealous when I brought this up. Someone who was on the Jealous wagon died yesterday it wasn't Palmar, or Rels, or JAT. I find it very hard to believe if you bring up those on copcake (and yes I know about my take on DP but I don't want to do him today just juggling him)
This is fair, I took Koshi's death to be more pointing towards Palmar/JAT but I don't want to read too hard into the NKs and just focus more on what's in the thread at the moment which currently is Rels and DMB fucking off.
Trying to keep an open mind for all options today even though I'm still townreading DMB
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