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On March 05 2024 14:32 CopCake wrote:
Jacob, how my gender changed your view on me?
What was your original view?
Then what about my gender made you change?
Oh, initially I was wondering if you were mafia or like maleish stubborn into DP but more likely mafia but then I realised you were femaleish stubborn into DP and it initially made more sense because I'm more used to women having that type of reaction to DP. (ahh there's a joke here...)
But then once your stubborness continued to be suspicious you didn't back down in a way that could either be REALLY subborn or mafia refusing to back out out of fear of looking like you were trying to hide.
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Now I will say this isn't based on DP's interaction with women that I've seen. He's clearly a stud and women love him. More DP's style of interaction I've put in a box of people who are like that, and seperatally people who are like that interacting with women or woman styled men tend to cause a more stubborn reaction in that same style. So initially based on the gender change I was seeing you as less mafia.
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I have to admit the game is much nicer assuming DP is town until like day 3. But also he does seem to be playing the same as I last remember him play town. I was starting to get worried that he wasn't being paranoid enough on his end but he fixed that as well so...
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On March 05 2024 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 14:42 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I have to admit the game is much nicer assuming DP is town until like day 3. But also he does seem to be playing the same as I last remember him play town. I was starting to get worried that he wasn't being paranoid enough on his end but he fixed that as well so... Are you mafia Jake?
I am not mafia and I'll go as far to be more specific and claim not traitor.
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On March 05 2024 15:28 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 14:50 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 05 2024 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 14:42 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I have to admit the game is much nicer assuming DP is town until like day 3. But also he does seem to be playing the same as I last remember him play town. I was starting to get worried that he wasn't being paranoid enough on his end but he fixed that as well so... Are you mafia Jake? I am not mafia and I'll go as far to be more specific and claim not traitor. Why was traitor on your mind enough to say it? Seems very odd
You can't just say "no" to DP he'll be too paranoid about that and take it as a challenge 
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Also I am a sucker for a good list post.
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On March 05 2024 15:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 15:31 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 05 2024 15:28 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 14:50 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 05 2024 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 14:42 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I have to admit the game is much nicer assuming DP is town until like day 3. But also he does seem to be playing the same as I last remember him play town. I was starting to get worried that he wasn't being paranoid enough on his end but he fixed that as well so... Are you mafia Jake? I am not mafia and I'll go as far to be more specific and claim not traitor. Why was traitor on your mind enough to say it? Seems very odd You can't just say "no" to DP he'll be too paranoid about that and take it as a challenge I mean like take me through your thought process
Okay so DP just straight asks me are you mafia.
and I'm like No.
Shit I'm chosing to not be JSL vs DP paranoid fight this game but he isn't if I just say no he'll react strange and be like hmm what about not mafia but not town roles like traitor hmm I guess I'll say I'm town aligned because he'll see that and be like huh JSL is being weird again that's normalish But that looks strange to other people, so I decided how about I just claim not Traitor immeditally. This does two things. It has Mafia see it and go oooh someone mentioned traitor, and town goes oooh that's different and then the speculation happens as to should mafia choose me and then I've wasted their traitor vote vs specifically not claiming traitor and allowing them to find traitor easier by not voting me.
Tbh I probably should have thought about the implications more before doing it but fuck it we ball at least I didn't claim Jailkeeper (I'm sorry vivax I love you and you know what maybe it'll all work out and it'll be the best claim ever)
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Palmar (4) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba
Also lets talk palmer. I'm good on Sandro, Marv I'm kinda ehh on but marv and sandro are in mason and ray who I was also good on vouches for marv in their mason.
JAT I'm not sure, not super active
Alakaslam is kinda just vibing out also in that I'm reading nullish.
Are you planning on posting more Palmer because you are top lynch target right now? If so what time of day?
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On March 05 2024 16:00 CopCake wrote:
You should convince people to lynch me
I'm not sure if you noticed through all the OMGUS but I actually had you in the section of ehh I don't like you but I don't want to lynch active person day one because if red it'll be super obvious as time goes on and if not red the activity will mean this will come clear.
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On March 05 2024 17:06 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 15:32 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Also I am a sucker for a good list post. You should make one then 😛
I should but I'm too tired after work while sick to actually go filter diving and my partner is saying "I must give them attention" so I'll just vibe post it.
1) raynpelikoneet
Town although has gone quiet after the whole Vivax vs him as Mayor thing could be sleeping.
2) Oatsmaster
I thought he was fixated on dumb early but I didn't think much of it. I thought it would be unusual given my reputation to attack me early if he was Mafia. Not that I'm good early but I've been pretty attack dog high volume doesn't die poster.
3) DarthPunk
DP has cast a spell on me and I have turned into his little sheep dog no questions, this said he sounds super reasonable and even if he was mafia he would still be making the "right town plays" in terms of decision making so I'm not worried.
4) Vivax
Super town now, I haven't pinned Vivax as the one to make the hero play (as mafia)
5) sandroba
Seems reasonable and logical tbh
6) Trfel
As above with sand however as pointed out by others meta is different and has kinda slipped away quietly for a while.
7) marvellosity
I said this before in my other posts I can't read marv early and is backed by two masons right now.
8) Jealous
Dislike inactive
9) Meapak_Ziphh
get the same vibes as koshi where it's sort of been a whirlwind of activity around them I can't actually place once the dust settles
10) Palmar
Yet to see any legendary behaviour
11) justanothertownie
Just another lurker
12) die_meatbaby
I like dmb just the vibe is right from last game when they were town.
13) CopCake
Like the "Cheating" stuff is kinda townish but I did get the impression that at least someone is being supicious of vivax because "it's what town would do" not because they actually are.
I guess my strongest mafia read based on evidence while having that nagging feeling of being wrong.
14) JacobStrangelove
Seems like your standard chug along until day 3 town player where things become more clear.
15) Hapahauli
Hapabout a post
16) Iamperfection
I didn't like iamp's style until his list post then it redeemed him a bit.
17) Koshi
See Meapak, only addition is they didn't jump on my bait but also last time they did as mafia did not go well. (although that was potentially unrelated)
18) ToTheStars
Possibly understandably overwhelmed by the filter but I almost can't blame them but at the same time as a policy/Mayor hit feel fine with it.
19) VisceraEyes
Similar to my weird stance on DP this game have almost decided to policy not lynch VE
20) Rels
Hasn't raised suspicions
21) Alakaslam
A less chaotic chaos player (out of the chezuinu and other style players) don't have a read just gonna null for now. Maybe slightly town.
Yeah I guess in hindsight I don't have many mafia reads early. After a hit rate of 0 until late game every game though I have decided to be less aggressive. I tend to like to find who's most town then from then who's least coherently town to find the mafia rather than finding the suspicious behaviour outright as I keep jumping on shadows.
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On March 05 2024 18:00 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 17:58 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 17:55 CopCake wrote:
Jacob is so much mafia, please lynch, that list is BS. What don’t you like? Except for the scum read on you of course. To the stars read, have said this several times. 😑 besides other actions. I think just the to the stars case of voting him instead of me and here saying he is more town says he actually have no reads.
Oh yeah you dislike me voting TTS because you were voting them but whoopde doo you aren't voting them anymore as soon as they started to get more than one or two votes.
I'm aware my voting patterns are tilting you right now and I don't particuarly care.
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On March 05 2024 18:03 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 18:00 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 17:58 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 17:55 CopCake wrote:
Jacob is so much mafia, please lynch, that list is BS. What don’t you like? Except for the scum read on you of course. To the stars read, have said this several times. 😑 besides other actions. I think just the to the stars case of voting him instead of me and here saying he is more town says he actually have no reads. Yeah this is a good point . Vote:JacobstrangeloveWhy you not voting for your top scum read Jake?
Again this is going to be the fourth time I've answered this.
But to make it clear. I'm happier voting a lurker player than an active player because if they stay active it'll be obvious they are mafia later and we can vote them out. If they stay lurking it won't be obvious what role they are later.
I've said it here.
On March 05 2024 16:11 JacobStrangelove wrote:I'm not sure if you noticed through all the OMGUS but I actually had you in the section of ehh I don't like you but I don't want to lynch active person day one because if red it'll be super obvious as time goes on and if not red the activity will mean this will come clear.
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On March 05 2024 09:41 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 09:36 Koshi wrote:
6) Trfel
8) Jealous
10) Palmar
15) Hapahauli
18) ToTheStars
Those are all good options to shoot or lynch into.
Personally I need to work out
1) raynpelikoneet
20) Rels
People like JLS, MZ, CC, Mebaby are not lynchable today imo I would kinda agree minus Trfel, for all the discussion on him nothing has really stuck for me. Could be information overload though. I think it'll be easier when there's less people in the thread. I like DMB not so sure on CC and MZ but probably not much point on an early lynch on mz (could lynch cop but they're active enough if they are scum it'll be revealed more later. I'm also thinking we don't lynch VE as it is true VE always dies early as town so.
and I thought somewhere else maybe I haven't.
tldr they are my top scum read but going by my day one track record I should just inverse my reads every time and I don't have confidence in myself. This said if it is really a sticking point I don't have any issues voting them either. Just I like policy vote the lurker votes.
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Don't worry I'll filter myself.
The case on JSL
On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start.
This is extremely sus. Jacob has never been known to put his ego aside and risk losing to either DP or TTT.
On March 04 2024 12:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Trfel is mafia doesn't know it's his birthday, very sus.... implies he lied when joining. :p
Fluff posting
On March 04 2024 12:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:14 Vivax wrote:On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start. 0/10 you didn‘t write fanfic where DP sodomized himself This will come at some point no doubt.... on a side note will probably vote for mayor someone I've played with before just because I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I don't know. (I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I know either tbh but ya know...)
On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
@oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then.
Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors.
Wishy washy has no faith in himself to come up with reads. Setting up to be non committal day 1
On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,
I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time). May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor? Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started. Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before. Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day. Ahh shit this makes so much more sense when it's read as second in votes for lynch not second in votes for Mayor... I thought this was like some 5d chess bait post hence the fisherman comment.
Intentionally misreads Meapak to drum up activity
On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:
This said if you make me Mayor I WILL vote for the second in Mayor votes just because that seems very funny.
More Fluff and not funny Town JSL is funny.
On March 04 2024 12:30 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:27 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 04 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
@oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then.
Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors. This really just sounds like you want no part of actually playing the game Hey at least I'm reading your posts. What are your thoughts so far? I think I'm running into the same thing I run into every game where my highly flowing style is being taken (and I mean this with no offence) slightly autistically but I'm not worried about it yet because I don't think mafia is stupid enough to fight me early.
Implies mafia won’t attack him early to discourage town for attacking him early. Ahh wait that’s technically hmm that doesn’t work actually
On March 04 2024 12:50 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 12:42 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.
Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.
Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. Exactly. Dumb post from MZ. Mafia dumb or dumb dumb? Not sure, its a whole lot of words about not much at all. I certainly don't want him to be mayor, any rate. Both mayoral candidates have been underwhelming thus far Wait you've forgotten about me! Also MZ sure trusting no one person but if it's like 16 /5 and you trust yourself it's now 15/5 is that better odds than day one second town lynch? Actually probably not and it at least gets someone town doesn't like gone but in your own words defend yourself!
I wrote it and I’m not even sure what this shit was about.
On March 04 2024 13:00 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Well as someone who also didn't know how the game worked (mayor election/voting for mayor) I didn't talk about the stuff I didn't know about until I went back and read the op and it was brought up and I am a classic case of just ask so I think there is some credence to being sceptical of a precice player just going disco and throwing questions when there are answers if you look into the thread.
After all this never really pressured oats master very much.
On March 04 2024 13:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:
OMG JSL Trfel and I am perf must be scum team they all decided to say the same thing at the same time.
Omg even says he’s part of the scum team must be mafia.
On March 04 2024 13:24 JacobStrangelove wrote:
yeah DMB's big post did seem kinda odd. I don't know why yet though. Just didn't seem like them. Then again it didn't seem like mafia or town them so I'm not sure what that means yet.
Says this but then flip flips on DMB later
On March 04 2024 22:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
oh also going to vote Koshi just because will explain later when I wake up.
Pushes random lynches seeing what will stick.
Okay tbh I kinda petered out at this point.
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I guess the rest is blah blah not commital blah blah hasn't done a huge amount.
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although tbh I started to stop finding reasons I would be mafia not sure if that's a good sign or just cognative bias.
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On March 05 2024 18:11 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 17:55 CopCake wrote:
Jacob is so much mafia, please lynch, that list is BS. It aint good lol
Nice! Can you describe why it's not good. Or are you just throwing out random comments as you're top on lynch list and looking for an easy exit?
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Actually as someone who just filtered Palmer again I think let he who is without sin through the first stone here....
If you sum up all of his posts you just get basically a list thread as shit or shitter as mine. So... what's the deal with that. Make a case on me at least. Explain why people should vote for me.
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Wait hold up just realised I should put slam much more town for reasons that should be obvious if we think about it but on the small hope people haven't noticed I won't mention again.
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On March 05 2024 18:33 DarthPunk wrote:
I’m not really sure how to take that Jake.
Which part!
From my perspective you have a few Senarios
You're Mafia DP and for some reason out of nowhere town JSL has decided to sheep you so he's an idiot but a useful idiot for now no point lynching him.
You're town DP and for some reason out of nowhere town JSL has decided to sheep you so he's an idiot but a useful idiot so no point in lynching him.
Your town DP and for some reason out of nowhere mafia JSL has decided to sheep you so... he's an idiot but a useful idiot so no point in lynching him?
I guess for the others...
DP is mafia DP and for some reason out of nowhere mafia JSL has decided to obviously hard sheep him so late game that's going to be really sus or something.
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On March 05 2024 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Why did you decide to not worry about me this game Jake? And why did you not say that before roles went out?
Sometimes my genius takes time to come to the surface. I simply didn't think of it before and I mean... before roles went out I didn't know I was town. Had I rolled mafia I wouldn't want to sheep you that would be mad suspicious.
Also arrogance. if we're both alive late game and you're mafia I rekon I can beat you.
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