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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 12 2024 10:34 GMT
#7081
On March 12 2024 19:30 JacobStrangelove wrote:
The case for Palmer being Scum.

Point Number 1.

He thought I was town early on, That’s sus as fuck nobody ever thinks I’m town when I’m town.

2.

Marv, Trfel, Slam, VE, JSL, all confirmed town thought he was scum.

3.

He posts lots of “Hey guys this is the right policy play guys this is great Mafia advice, Oh actually scum hunting? Naw lets only do policy and correct TM play moves” Like in the last day or so he’s basically only just done mild oh these guys are all still scummy vaguely in a pile for… reasons… yes so keep them in mind to lynch when I’m still alive day 6 and it’s lylo.

4.

He’s sheeping DP hard and DP is falling for it because DP likes being called smart.

5.

He’s always on the “wrong” lynch target/the target that doesn’t get lynched.

Day one

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 11:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Mayor

Vivax (13): raynpelikoneet, Rels, Vivax, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Koshi, Alakaslam, JacobStrangelove, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Palmar, Jealous, Trfel, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (3): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Koshi (1): Koshi, justanothertownie


Not Voting (3): CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 13 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected!

Lynch

Trfel (11): iamperfection, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, Vivax, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, sandroba
Justanothertownie (6): sandroba, Palmar, DarthPunk, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby, Trfel, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, Oatsmaster
Palmar (1) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Rels Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Trfel
JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, DarthPunk
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster, Oatsmaster, sandroba, DarthPunk
CopCake (0): Oatsmaster, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh
ToTheStars (0): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove, Vivax
Hapahauli (0): Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection, sandroba, Vivax, Oatsmaster
DarthPunk (0) : raynpelikoneet
iamperfection (0): DarthPunk
Koshi (0) : JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (0) : DarthPunk
Alakaslam (0) Oatsmaster, CopCake
Vivax (0): Alakaslam
Oatsmaster (0) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk


Not Voting(2): Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 8 votes, Trfel is currently set to be lynched!

Let me know if you see any votes misplaced

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Oh what’s this? Was never on Oats, was never on TTS, went on JAT but wasn’t on the main lynch, does he know they are both town? Only ever voted one person and stayed there.


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On March 09 2024 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
Justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Oh what’s this? Oatsmaster has a confirmed red check? Never on him. Not even once, decisively counter meta. Blatantly so. Nearly the entire game was on Oats at one point and sure some changed but Palmer? No… not the red check? Can’t vote them ever… no doubt in his mind he’s not voting Oats.

Only on VE.

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On March 12 2024 11:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

VisceraEyes (7): Rels, Justanothertownie, Koshi, Palmar, Vivax, iamperfection, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk, Vivax, VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby, Vivax, iamperfection
CopCake (6): Jealous, DarthPunk, iamperfection, Vivax, die_meatbaby, VisceraEyes, CopCake, JacobStrangelove, DarthPunk, iamperfection, CopCake, die_meatbaby, Vivax
Meapak_Ziphh (0): Vivax, Vivax
Palmar (0): VisceraEyes, CopCake
Jealous (0): Vivax
DarthPunk (0): Vivax

With 7 votes, VisceraEyes is lynched!


What’s this? Is this Palmer once again on VE only with not a single other vote? Man it’s so townie to never doubt your read ever because why would you if you know they’re all town?

What? You mean the counter wagon to the confirmed red check that almost got lynched even when the other person had a red check? No they can’t be town they must be scum. Can’t do association cases until people flip Palmer keeps saying that, can’t do association cases after people flip either because Uhhh you’ll find scum that way we don’t want that!

My man has never once voted for scum in this game. Not even accidentally. My man has never even gotten close to voting for scum in this game.

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On March 11 2024 20:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 11 2024 20:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:47 Palmar wrote:
Btw the wagon on me is so bad.

marv is probably just mafia
jat has literally no reason to think I am, and is probably mafia anyway.
Trfel has literally no reason to think I am
Slam is slam
Koshi has thought I am mafia every game for 10+ years. I think he just enjoys murdering me.

The only standout is DP


Wow, the wagon on me on day 1 was so pure :D

Wasn't it just?

Palmar is almost certainly mafia here. Marv thought so. Rayn thought so. They're both dead to night kills. Palmar as town reviles playing with me, so him wanting me more active in this game bodes poorly for all of you given I'm going out first. He doesn't have fun WITH me, he has fun USING me, and he's salty I haven't given him ammo to do so until now. He voted for me instead of Oats even though he had a town read on me and a scum read on Oats D1. Pretty damning in hindsight, considering Oats was red checked AND was the framer.

His filter is all over the place as you'd expect, but there are some nuggets in there. There's this one post locking koshi as town for calling the framer town on D1. As if that's not something mafia are EXPECTED to do. I'm sure he has some reasonable sounding logic, like towncasing is as bad as mafcasing because it invites scrutiny regardless. But he conveniently refuses to factor in that A) it's Koshi and B) we're all big boys and girls and stuff here.

There's also a tendency to do mafia-ish things in his posts that I probably just dislike in general...but he does stuff like subtly fearmonger and appeal to peoples' insecurities. I've seen him do it as town but it's his bread and butter as mafia.

Palmar is probably Mafia Palmar, and frankly he's probably going to win.

I'm actually stopping here for now guys, I have tabs open with MZ iamp and CopCake filters, I had intended to do them tonight - I had actually intended for these all to be in one post - but when I found 2 mafia in Koshi/Palmar I figured the last one can wait. Especially given one of those people is the counterwagon to me and at this point I actually just WANT CopCake to be mafia so I can say the mafia tried to lynch me all game and couldn't - so I'll probably start with CC tomorrow. I HOPE she's mafia but that would be maybe too easy from my perspective.


May I present reason number 6.

Confirmed town VE’s case on Palmer.

Reason number 7.

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 00:54 Palmar wrote:
By the way I think CC should not be lynched and have a slight townread. I understand the waffling and self-doubt and giving up can be faked, but it still is more likely to come from town than scum.

I also think dmb sounds a lot more reasonable this game than last game.

For one reason or another, I'm not really considering the following people right now:

dp
jls
koshi
cc
dmb
vivax

Then there's like two people I just need to actually get off my ass and read

jealous
iamp
rels

and then there's the people I actively think could be mafia

jat
mz
ve

Remember, to me I'm really thinking about the game as a "day 1" situation where we have plenty of time and mislynches left. I am not really questioning weaker townreads and tinfoil theories at the moment, there is no need to.


Yo JAT, MZ, you are next in his firing line? If you are town fucking vote him maybe? Don’t let him kill you too.

Rels Iamp Jealous? Are any of you town? Do you want to be next? If you’re town in this I bet at least one of you is his scum buddy so he won’t be voting them it’ll be you that dies when Mafia needs another lynch.


Koshi, cc, dmb

He’s not considering you, yay you’re safe from Mafia killing you! After all he needs you on side to kill the others. But look at the post again, were there any reasons behind his reads in this list post? Nope nothing there at all backing up his reads. You are simply Palmers tool of destruction against your fellow town.

8. Fear is the mindkiller, Victory favours the bold

Fear not friends we can brave this new day. We can kill the Evil that lurks in this town, Fear not men and women of Grackville! We will triumph and see a new dawn, we will see a new day where fear does not run this town! If ever you fear death, if you ever are presented with a hammer do stay the course and run this vagabond out of town.










While I may die for giving my reads before the night ends I have faith you will execute my will and testament. I fear not death from gunshot nor inability to play and win I trust the town I see before me.

Do not fear, and do not doubt IamPerfection, Do not waver in spirit as yesterdays lynch was likely TvT all is forgiven, if you stay on the path of righteousness.


MZ, Master case poster, Realiser that you alone can absolve your past misdeeds and solve the game.

Vivax: Glorious Mayor, Trust in your town, do not let paranoia ruin your mind we are men of metal. Trust in me, Trust in DP trust in Town. Execute the Pretender.

JAT: Man of the people Targeted by Palmer the bringer of Doom. I have faith in you. I believe. You can make the right choice.

Jealous: My beloved child. One who fights to find scum and has earned my respect. Stay the course Kill the Vile being.

DMB: This Palmer dude likes clowns. He must die.

CC: Battered child, Ignore DP, even if he survives the night, don’t listen to his read on you listen to my read on you, I see now with VE being Town it’s likely you are both town. The agent of destruction has been revealed to us. It was Palmer all along.

Rels: I’ll be honest I ain’t so sure on you but I am so sure on Palmer so like idk kill him.

Koshi: You are either mafia or the antichrist has clouded your sight. Just like. Idk think about it let him die.

DP: No seriously he’s saying “the right thing” and getting the wrong result every time. Just like think about it you don’t want to be tricked by him sheeping your right? You would look like totally dumb if he sheeped you to a win.

My friends my fellow’s my brothers. If I die tonight fear not. With every post Palmer makes ignore it! Chant DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!

If he suggests a wagon do not think do not feel chant! DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!

If you feel your soul wavering fear not trust in the chant, believe in the chant. DOWN WITH THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!

If I die I leave this in your hands. I need at least one page in your filter each dedicated to the chat when morning breaks. Over 48 hours it isn’t unreasonable.

Thank you for putting the work in so I don't have to.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 12 2024 10:39 GMT
#7082
lol
Computer says mafia
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 12 2024 10:41 GMT
#7083
On March 12 2024 19:39 Palmar wrote:
lol

A rebuttal
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 12 2024 10:41 GMT
#7084
On March 12 2024 19:39 Palmar wrote:
lol


DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 12 2024 10:54 GMT
#7085
Marv did not say palmar is mafia. He strongly called him town. How are you all getting this wrong. VEs case was also not very good.

I really love how you put your own name in the list of people who read him mafia though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 12 2024 10:56 GMT
#7086
On March 12 2024 19:41 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 19:39 Palmar wrote:
lol

A rebuttal

:D
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 12 2024 10:59 GMT
#7087
On March 12 2024 19:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv did not say palmar is mafia. He strongly called him town. How are you all getting this wrong. VEs case was also not very good.

I really love how you put your own name in the list of people who read him mafia though.


In which world do you live now?

You do not have to make big reads just who do you think is more town.

DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 11:12 GMT
#7088
On March 12 2024 17:29 Koshi wrote:
CC has been center of attention so cba to talk about her anymore. The selfvote sits bad and the fact she TOWNREADS VE is completely bananas. But if it makes her mafia. Pffffffffff


It’s tmi.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 11:13 GMT
#7089
On March 12 2024 18:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 18:51 CopCake wrote:
But I will let what you posted Vivax to be discussed by somebody else.

I don’t want to go that alley.

If I could lynch someone, would be Palmar.


Yes, lets all lynch Palmer I'm going to fight for this tonight and make a town case so Solid it'll suvive 48 hours of IamPerfection Wifoming himself.



Lolll
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 11:17 GMT
#7090
On March 12 2024 19:20 justanothertownie wrote:
There probably never were a lot of mafia players on Palmar.


Why do you say that?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 11:17 GMT
#7091
On March 12 2024 19:21 justanothertownie wrote:
But they also did not need to put in any work day1 since if palmar is town all real wagons day1 were town. With the possible exception of dmb but that never really took steam.


What about you. You could be mafia here.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 11:28 GMT
#7092
I think that is the best case I have ever seen Jake post.

I still think palmar is town but there is a chance I have been pocketed I guess.

I had dnd tonight and got home late.

I have day 2 of professional development at work which is unfortunate. So I’ll only be around briefly I. The morning and for a couple of hours just before the day post.

I hope to read palmar at that point.

Cake I am just insanely frustrated about.

I can easily see her never getting lynched this game and cruising to a victory.

On your heads be it.

There is probably one or two mafia in the big pile of Koshi, JAT, Mz, Rels, perfection, palmar.

And I can see reasons for all of them to be town so that’s worrying.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 12 2024 11:43 GMT
#7093
On March 12 2024 20:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 19:21 justanothertownie wrote:
But they also did not need to put in any work day1 since if palmar is town all real wagons day1 were town. With the possible exception of dmb but that never really took steam.


What about you. You could be mafia here.

My role pm says otherwise. Why would I analyze the game from a pov where I am mafia? Yeah, my info level is privileged since I know my own alignment. But from that I can tell you there was never the danger of a mafia lynch day1.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 11:45 GMT
#7094
On March 12 2024 20:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 20:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 12 2024 19:21 justanothertownie wrote:
But they also did not need to put in any work day1 since if palmar is town all real wagons day1 were town. With the possible exception of dmb but that never really took steam.


What about you. You could be mafia here.

My role pm says otherwise. Why would I analyze the game from a pov where I am mafia? Yeah, my info level is privileged since I know my own alignment. But from that I can tell you there was never the danger of a mafia lynch day1.


That post just seems to me like it says nothing except that you are town.

Which is a bit fucking weak at this point
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 12 2024 11:49 GMT
#7095
On March 12 2024 20:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 20:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 12 2024 20:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 12 2024 19:21 justanothertownie wrote:
But they also did not need to put in any work day1 since if palmar is town all real wagons day1 were town. With the possible exception of dmb but that never really took steam.


What about you. You could be mafia here.

My role pm says otherwise. Why would I analyze the game from a pov where I am mafia? Yeah, my info level is privileged since I know my own alignment. But from that I can tell you there was never the danger of a mafia lynch day1.


That post just seems to me like it says nothing except that you are town.

Which is a bit fucking weak at this point

Yeah, you said to me I could be mafia. What else do you want me to say to that? A bit weak of a ping, wouldn't you say?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 12 2024 11:50 GMT
#7096
On March 12 2024 20:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 19:20 justanothertownie wrote:
There probably never were a lot of mafia players on Palmar.


Why do you say that?

Have a look at the wagon?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 12 2024 11:55 GMT
#7097
So jat is palmar scum? You diminished the case but it wasn't super clear if you disagreed with the whole thing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 11:57 GMT
#7098
On March 12 2024 20:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 20:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 12 2024 19:20 justanothertownie wrote:
There probably never were a lot of mafia players on Palmar.


Why do you say that?

Have a look at the wagon?


2 people could be mafia potentially

What I did notice looking back at the wagons was the incredibly early tts votes from Rels and cake.

Possible distancing.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 11:58 GMT
#7099
On March 12 2024 20:55 iamperfection wrote:
So jat is palmar scum? You diminished the case but it wasn't super clear if you disagreed with the whole thing.


Good point
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 12 2024 12:00 GMT
#7100
On March 12 2024 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Koshi what's your current view of palmar

The balance between being good for town mrotecting the thread and making waves to catch scum leans heavily towards the first.
I had a good night of sleep.
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