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On March 12 2024 14:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 14:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 12 2024 14:10 iamperfection wrote:On March 12 2024 13:59 DarthPunk wrote:
People on VE over oats look really bad.
People on VE over cake look really bad.
Well that fits palmar. It fits me too but we can ignore that part. And Koshi. You are all in the poe to be honest, need to read you all again. And MZ.
Hmm, seems familiar:
On March 11 2024 11:27 Jealous wrote:
At this point, my order of most likely to be scum individually with no investigations on associations are:
1. CopCake or VE, basically tied.
2. Koshi/Rels/Palmar.
3. MZ.
4. JAT.
5. Iamperfection.
6. DMB.
That's basically my PoE, and I'll work through them in that manner as time allows and as flips come in, basically.
Obviously a few alterations but I think the roadmap can be adjusted at this point.
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Yeah mafia is Palmer, Koshi, easy not sure on last
Cc is town because playing so drastically against win con as scum when you know ve is town is dumb.
It was scummy before but now we know VE is town Cc is town.
Unless we lynch Palmer and he flips town then it's cc rels and still not sure on last.
I like jealous and mz, Jat in that order of townness.
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If we lynch Palmer tomorrow that will solve the game one way or the other.
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Perfection is less perfect now tbh. Do is frustrated enough to be town.
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On March 12 2024 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Just fucking lynch copcake.
My god why is this so hard/
No tbh yes she looked scummy before the flip bit ironically looks better after it.
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Can you elaborate on why CC is town now that VE is town? Because instead of taking the easy dogpile on the wagon, she voted for herself?
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On March 12 2024 15:23 Jealous wrote:
Can you elaborate on why CC is town now that VE is town? Because instead of taking the easy dogpile on the wagon, she voted for herself?
I mean yeah that is pretty much it tbh. In the situation where be and cc are scum they might be helpless and both self vote and be sad in qt right?
But they aren't, game isn't hopeless, at least two hidden or semi hidden scum out there.
Cupcake would have at least the most basic social requirement to them to hold on slightly longer so they have more chance of winning.
Hence cc is town who feels they are playing solo and depressed.
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On March 12 2024 15:35 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 15:23 Jealous wrote:
Can you elaborate on why CC is town now that VE is town? Because instead of taking the easy dogpile on the wagon, she voted for herself? I mean yeah that is pretty much it tbh. In the situation where be and cc are scum they might be helpless and both self vote and be sad in qt right? But they aren't, game isn't hopeless, at least two hidden or semi hidden scum out there. Cupcake would have at least the most basic social requirement to them to hold on slightly longer so they have more chance of winning. Hence cc is town who feels they are playing solo and depressed.
Thanks. Not pressuring you directly FWIW, just wanted to bounce ideas and have it said to me in a different way than the way I have been reading it myself through the WIFOM/WIOM fog.
Fucked up part is I can totally see it this way. Have to do some thinking about whether coached scum!CopCake can pull this off for a worst-case 1 for 1 with VE, knowing that both are likely to be lynched, you know? I can see the TvT lynch scenario now for the same reasons you listed, though. Need a clearer mind to wade through the BS.
Sad part is both played so scummy IMO that it's hard to accept an alternative to one of them being scum, but it does indeed feel more likely than before 
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On March 12 2024 15:35 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 15:23 Jealous wrote:
Can you elaborate on why CC is town now that VE is town? Because instead of taking the easy dogpile on the wagon, she voted for herself? I mean yeah that is pretty much it tbh. In the situation where be and cc are scum they might be helpless and both self vote and be sad in qt right? But they aren't, game isn't hopeless, at least two hidden or semi hidden scum out there. Cupcake would have at least the most basic social requirement to them to hold on slightly longer so they have more chance of winning. Hence cc is town who feels they are playing solo and depressed.
Why does that not also make sense if they are maf v maf?
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Ok. Game is still very interesting.
I am glad iamp decided to go for VE because that position was unholdable.
We blame rayn, marv and sandroba for this one.
Next.
As palmar said. This is just the first lynch in a mini. No need to worry.
I think I actually connected with Jealous yesterday. So I dont scum read him anymore.
I really have to rethink MZ. If our alliance should continue.
JAT & Rels. So difficult.
Palmar (((
I'll probably will be under fire more and more. Which is fine. Really fun game. Mafia is doing well.
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iamp
DP
Vivax
Those are confirmed town for me. Anything can 3 lynches from now but I dont believe it and I dont want you to talk to me about it. Those 3 are town:
iamp because his investment, pushing the game forward, and again out of town cc and town ve it makes more sense to lynch ve. If CC is mafia we can revisit iamp but not now.
DP shooting, filter, cares about who is lynched.
Vivax active so metawise town, rbs missing from mafia
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Sorry forgot JSL. The most confirmed of all.
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Then there is JAT, Palmar and myself sitting on 17 pages. Prominent figures in the game, JAT being able to hide the most I would say. But that's mostly because marv pulled Palmar out of the shadow.
I dont envy the townies looking at those 3 names and having to pick out the mafia.
I cant do it out of 2.
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On March 12 2024 16:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 15:35 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 12 2024 15:23 Jealous wrote:
Can you elaborate on why CC is town now that VE is town? Because instead of taking the easy dogpile on the wagon, she voted for herself? I mean yeah that is pretty much it tbh. In the situation where be and cc are scum they might be helpless and both self vote and be sad in qt right? But they aren't, game isn't hopeless, at least two hidden or semi hidden scum out there. Cupcake would have at least the most basic social requirement to them to hold on slightly longer so they have more chance of winning. Hence cc is town who feels they are playing solo and depressed. Why does that not also make sense if they are maf v maf?
Because VE flipped town. It did make sense hence why we voted them. Or doesn't make sense as mvt
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Rels Jealous and MZ
I think Jealous and I were both equally flabbergasted by what was happening yesterday. Should be a good basis to build on comming days.
I have a nagging feeling Rels is mafia since the start. It is that or he is playing quasi perfect and that sits bad. I should reread him for sure but my gut says to look here.
MZ and I are friends now. It is just easier for me if I dont have to think about dmb. MZ pleading to me to look into CC felt townie.
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Iamperfection you committed mutiny how do you plead
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CC has been center of attention so cba to talk about her anymore. The selfvote sits bad and the fact she TOWNREADS VE is completely bananas. But if it makes her mafia. Pffffffffff
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JAT/Rels/dmb for me now.
Trying to read dead townies brought me nowhere.
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On March 12 2024 17:32 Koshi wrote:
JAT/Rels/dmb for me now.
Trying to read dead townies brought me nowhere.
Honestly if not you and Palmer. It might be rels palmer idk Jat.
Either way I'm going to do Palmer's Strat and vote for most scummy only which is him.
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EPT
