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On March 08 2024 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 15:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 15:30 Koshi wrote:
I woke up today thinking I am going to vote Oats and we were all wrong on him. Lol what does this mean He thinks you are town Actually maybe not
It do be confusing
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On March 08 2024 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 15:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 15:30 Koshi wrote:
I woke up today thinking I am going to vote Oats and we were all wrong on him. Lol what does this mean He thinks you are town Actually maybe not
Thoughts on my Palmar post?
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Yeah I wanna go here
##unvote
##vote: Palmar
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Guess I killed the thread
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I literally just tore my calf muscle in half playing badminton.
So I’ll be afk a while while I go to the doctor
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On March 08 2024 16:18 DarthPunk wrote:
I literally just tore my calf muscle in half playing badminton.
So I’ll be afk a while while I go to the doctor
And do other related medical stuff. My gf is on the way to pick me up. So I had a second to post.
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On March 08 2024 10:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 03:15 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 03:13 Alakaslam wrote:On March 08 2024 02:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 02:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 02:28 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 02:24 CopCake wrote:
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You need to consider Mafia either didnt believe Slam´s claim or were more afraid of Rayn / Sandro
Yeah. Why not shoot slam. Would mafia have known rayn was blue? Because that would make it less likely slam also is blue? But then marv is mafia. That's the tricky part. Sandro and rayn are both solid shots on their own. I agree rayn either because of his reads or because Marv is mafia (doubtful). Sandro had a very strong position since he was backed by Marv almost unconditionally. But why would they ever let the claimed cop live? Not even role blocking him? This is the tricky thing. I think mafia is pretty narcissistic and do not consider Slam dangerous. It makes a bit of sense since I would assume Slam would visit Rayn, me or marv. @Slam: I am correct in that? Who would you have visited? What do you mean would have visited? He DID visit somebody... and it would have to be a pretty stupid mafia team since it really doesn't matter who is getting the checks. Instead of Oats, sorry if my english is bad. OH yeah I said that already, DP D: I am not a Slam expert. This train of posts, she was 'analysing' with an agenda. You can tell when she is horrified at slams answer that I was his scum check if not oats. This was clear to me since he claimed cop, but she now doesn't make the next steps in her 'analysis' and start to think that why would DP as mafia leave slam alive and unroleblocked when he is the obvious cop check. She was gearing up to call me mafia as an old school narcasstic player based on NK analysis that is not genuine. Then we have the series of posts where she over analyses the Oats red check and has a lot to say about it which is just obvious. So it came across as performative. Finally she is blatantly trying to pocket you and wifom the fact you are still alive, when the obvious answer is that it paints her to look bad that you are alive, cause you are keeping her alive. She should know that as either alginment but again is really performative about 'considering' NK and marvs alignment in a way that just strikes me as an excuse to hard buddy and pocket marv for his town read of her. @Marv
I understand what you’re saying DP. Just acknowledging at this stage 👍
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On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.
So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.
If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.
You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.
Ngl, got a bit aroused.
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On March 08 2024 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:You know I will be RB
Why did you claim exactly?
I never caught up with some of the thread.
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On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient.
And the vote count is 10 … 2 1 1. Get a grip
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Literally just solidifies my point, rather than going against it.
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On March 08 2024 11:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:11 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 11:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 11:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:00 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. What do you want to say ? I'm missing the point. Either he isn't right or he is. I don't know what Oats will flip. Well then lets flip oats and find out, this absolutely reeks of big plays going on for scum and I can't figure out which is legit scum and which is dumb town letting their egos think they know better than an un ccd blue role with a red check. honestly some of you just love the smell of your own farts That doesn't answer it. What does it mean for marv if he says that? What do you see that others can't? I've had my metas suspicions of marv for a while now but I'm not comfortable putting him higher than say VE yet but it certainly doesn't help my read of him. but what I can see that apparently others can is um idk.... a fucking red check/ I literally talked about this exact thing this morning. Again: Why is it worth pointing out for you that marv expects scum autopilot on oats but you find many not doing that? Either that means marv is scum for you or the others aren't, and you aren't walking anyone through your reasoning. Its not that marv "expects" scum to autopilot oats, its that he opens up the avenue for people to go somewhere else and be townread for it bc "obviosuly scum are autopilot on oats so people questioning must be town" People questiong are dumb and all think they know better than what we established last night after my bad math was like a 90% chance of him being sucm. I already had my suspicions of marv so this is only fueling those.
What suspicions? Be very clear please. Both my masons hard townread me and I unnecessarily revealed I was aware of rayn’s role.
Your suspicions better be good or I’m coming for you.
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On March 08 2024 11:19 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 11:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:00 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. What do you want to say ? I'm missing the point. Either he isn't right or he is. I don't know what Oats will flip. Well then lets flip oats and find out, this absolutely reeks of big plays going on for scum and I can't figure out which is legit scum and which is dumb town letting their egos think they know better than an un ccd blue role with a red check. honestly some of you just love the smell of your own farts That doesn't answer it. What does it mean for marv if he says that? What do you see that others can't? I've had my metas suspicions of marv for a while now but I'm not comfortable putting him higher than say VE yet but it certainly doesn't help my read of him. but what I can see that apparently others can is um idk.... a fucking red check/ I literally talked about this exact thing this morning. MZ here is doing what marv said mafia would be doing. He assumes Oats is redchecked. Ezpz. Then he points out how a group of players is not doing what marv said scum would be doing and says he suspects them. Then he calls marv suspicious for pointing it out. So in MZ world marv is mafia and his teammates are all doing the opposite of what marv said they would do and MZ thinks he found something yet he does exactly what marv said a mafia would be doing and says Oats is the only logical choice.
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On March 08 2024 11:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
look vivax Im ngl, oats has made posts that if he made them 48 hours ago Id def townread him too, but I don't think Im better at reading the game than the probability of events that had to occur for him to somehow be checked wrong. Like I do get why you don't wanna lynch him but its still the right move.
This is literally my very explicit and repeated stance MZ. So why are you suspicious of me when this is my exact stance?
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On March 08 2024 11:54 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself. This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol how much does a person really change lets be honest.
Well you keep moaning at me :p
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On March 08 2024 16:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:54 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself. This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol how much does a person really change lets be honest. Well you keep moaning at me :p
Hey marv thoughts on palmar case when you see it pls
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On March 08 2024 13:22 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 12:38 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 12:37 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 12:34 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 12:30 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 12:27 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 09:55 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 09:49 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 09:48 CopCake wrote:
I mean blocking vivax is wild, unless they assumed that vivax would protect slam 🤔 Why is it wild? sandro and I and maybe rayn too both discussed jk is stronger than cop. Mafia marv has two options - block rayn - block vivax Both of them (at least rayn) decides to protect slam. Therefore mafia knows not to waste kills there. So either rayn or vivax got blocked (duh) over slam. But why not block slam if rayn or vivax would protect slam anyways? (In mafia marvs perspective) I think this kinda clears marv? I mean that would be the best mafia play. Block slam because he would be protected anyways and you know rayn would waste his doc on him and vivax would JK block/ slam So the one who got blocked was vivax and no rayn! Marv is town by night actions. Please correct me if I am wrong. I think this is a very townie post The logic is pretty wrong IMO. I don't understand why you assume mafia would think Vivax would protect Slam though. After removing that assumption, the logic kind of fall apart Kind of moot since I think marv is very very townie I think she is pocketing him here. Your last point is why. Wild theories like this are not something I associate with scum!CopCake. Planning on rereading the latest game where we were scum together to verify when I'm caught up Pocketing is not a wild theory, its standard practice as mafia. In that specific case, the logic to which she arrives at the marv townread, not the attempt itself That looks like standard mafia fare to me. Lots of waffling about nothing important to land on an important town read for your own survival. Comparing CopCake with that game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/586368-chezinu-streaks-mafia?user=CopCake&view=allI think it's pretty different. In this current game, she talks very freely, posts stuff like this even when unprompted. The other game doesn't contain a weird theory, just "faking to be town" with "normal analysis, with sometimes some fake confrontation or anger. And even then, nothing that comes to the level of interaction she had this game, like when she bumped into you D1, rayn N1, Slam D2 as examples ... This is reflected in the filter size too: 19 pages in this game (in the middle of D2) vs 9 pages in that game (lynched D4)
This is basically my read on CC beyond what I had previously explained. Thank you Rels
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On March 08 2024 09:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 08:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 08:55 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity I’ve alluded to most of it. Rayn discord was quite quiet, the main highlight was seeing a pic from artanis’ wedding and being made to guess who is who. And talking him down off Copcake which I may or may not regret. Sandro discord was very active. We talked about palmar, MZ, Rels, JSL (I got excited about sandro’s read but the claim seems to have scotched that). Sandro thought Koshi was very town as he aligned with him on a bunch of stuff. We talked about MZ, specifically the posts at the end of his first page of filter and the first page of 2nd filter. Sandro had said he wrote MZ off as town for a while after that. We sort of concluded it would be a ballsy scumplay but that MZ could make it. We also talked about MZ stance on town deciding the mayor lynch, sandro talked about how it was quite an old school view what MZ said about it and we left it there. We both thought VE was scummy. I asked sandro to talk palmar off of rayn if sandro was alive. Obviously that sort of resolved itself. And I am aware that makes it sound like I think palmar is town, but it’s more complicated than that. The act of sandro talking to palmar would have been revealing. Jealous town, CC town. Have you read the post I made about MZ? https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28153955What are your thoughts Yes it’s pretty good. The top point was something me and sandro discussed quite a bit. I hadn’t picked up on the CC read progression thing you talked about. The Koshi stuff I’m not so sure
What do you mean about not so sure on the koshi stuff?
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On March 08 2024 16:59 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 16:56 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 11:54 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself. This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol how much does a person really change lets be honest. Well you keep moaning at me :p Hey marv thoughts on palmar case when you see it pls
Meh. If he’s mafia I don’t really think it’s because of stuff in your post. For example he absolutely does the ‘explain the game’ thing when he’s town, it’s NAI. I also think he’d talk to rayn like that and doesn’t mean he’s assuming he’s town.
The fact he’s not here is shitty though.
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