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ToTheStars
Profile Joined February 2024
26 Posts
March 07 2024 09:20 GMT
#4161
DP and Vivax what are your reads?

All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 07 2024 09:22 GMT
#4162
On March 07 2024 18:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 17:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 07 2024 17:25 CopCake wrote:
And I think this makes Marv lock town.

Why?

Because rayn was believing i was mafia and marv convinced him of the opposite.

Marvmafia wouldnt do that I think.

Thought you didn’t townread people for defending you


Tell me why you can't see cake is mafia btw.

I explained. More than once I think.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 07 2024 09:23 GMT
#4163
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3517

Sort of the nuts and bolts of it here DP
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 07 2024 09:26 GMT
#4164
On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote:
DP and Vivax what are your reads?

All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?

Filter the host for flips. It may be in the op as well
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ToTheStars
Profile Joined February 2024
26 Posts
March 07 2024 09:33 GMT
#4165
How do you filter?
ToTheStars
Profile Joined February 2024
26 Posts
March 07 2024 09:33 GMT
#4166
And yeah I found the flip from the OP
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 07 2024 09:34 GMT
#4167
On March 07 2024 18:33 ToTheStars wrote:
How do you filter?

Below every post there is a grey filter button.

Also in the op you can click peoples names in the sign up list and it will open their filter
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 09:43 GMT
#4168
On March 07 2024 18:23 marvellosity wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3517

Sort of the nuts and bolts of it here DP


Not good enough. You have a blind spot with players like cake and ls imo.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 07 2024 09:47 GMT
#4169
On March 07 2024 18:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 18:23 marvellosity wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3517

Sort of the nuts and bolts of it here DP


Not good enough. You have a blind spot with players like cake and ls imo.

I don’t think I ever got LS alignment wrong?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 09:49 GMT
#4170
On March 07 2024 18:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 18:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:23 marvellosity wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3517

Sort of the nuts and bolts of it here DP


Not good enough. You have a blind spot with players like cake and ls imo.

I don’t think I ever got LS alignment wrong?


It takes you a while when he is mafia
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 07 2024 09:50 GMT
#4171
On March 07 2024 18:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 18:47 marvellosity wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:23 marvellosity wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3517

Sort of the nuts and bolts of it here DP


Not good enough. You have a blind spot with players like cake and ls imo.

I don’t think I ever got LS alignment wrong?


It takes you a while when he is mafia

D2 max. Honestly it’s a terrible example, I think he is probably one of my most consistently good reads.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 07 2024 09:53 GMT
#4172
But I don’t see LS and Copcake as comparable at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 10:00 GMT
#4173
On March 07 2024 18:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 18:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:47 marvellosity wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:23 marvellosity wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3517

Sort of the nuts and bolts of it here DP


Not good enough. You have a blind spot with players like cake and ls imo.

I don’t think I ever got LS alignment wrong?


It takes you a while when he is mafia

D2 max. Honestly it’s a terrible example, I think he is probably one of my most consistently good reads.


It was later than that in my first game back.

He was obv mafia to me on day one so it struck me at the time as weird that you were not scum reading him while also saying he was easy to read.

Maybe they aren’t comparable but to me you have a penchant for protecting weaker players and I think it is clouding your judgement here.

I will stand by that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 07 2024 10:03 GMT
#4174
On March 07 2024 19:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 18:50 marvellosity wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:47 marvellosity wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:23 marvellosity wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3517

Sort of the nuts and bolts of it here DP


Not good enough. You have a blind spot with players like cake and ls imo.

I don’t think I ever got LS alignment wrong?


It takes you a while when he is mafia

D2 max. Honestly it’s a terrible example, I think he is probably one of my most consistently good reads.


It was later than that in my first game back.

He was obv mafia to me on day one so it struck me at the time as weird that you were not scum reading him while also saying he was easy to read.

Maybe they aren’t comparable but to me you have a penchant for protecting weaker players and I think it is clouding your judgement here.

I will stand by that.

No it wasn’t later. We might have lynched him later but the read didn’t come later.

I said to iamp it’s hardly a 100% read but for me it’s enough for now. And I don’t have to worry about it for at least 72 hours anyway

You’re right, I do get protective over people.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 10:10 GMT
#4175
On March 07 2024 19:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 19:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:50 marvellosity wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:47 marvellosity wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:23 marvellosity wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=176#3517

Sort of the nuts and bolts of it here DP


Not good enough. You have a blind spot with players like cake and ls imo.

I don’t think I ever got LS alignment wrong?


It takes you a while when he is mafia

D2 max. Honestly it’s a terrible example, I think he is probably one of my most consistently good reads.


It was later than that in my first game back.

He was obv mafia to me on day one so it struck me at the time as weird that you were not scum reading him while also saying he was easy to read.

Maybe they aren’t comparable but to me you have a penchant for protecting weaker players and I think it is clouding your judgement here.

I will stand by that.

No it wasn’t later. We might have lynched him later but the read didn’t come later.

I said to iamp it’s hardly a 100% read but for me it’s enough for now. And I don’t have to worry about it for at least 72 hours anyway

You’re right, I do get protective over people.


It’s a good trait to have.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 10:33 GMT
#4176
On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote:
DP and Vivax what are your reads?

All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?

If you look in my filter or just before the day 2 post there is a big reads list.

Take jsl and dmb out of the scum section and those are my reads at this point.

You can upgrade Marv to do not lynch status.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 07 2024 10:53 GMT
#4177
On March 07 2024 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 13:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 13:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 07 2024 13:08 CopCake wrote:
Rayns dead is weird

🤔


No? Rayn was badass?

He was the only 100% no que-

He and Iamperfection are the only 100% no questions asked certainly town players at that point

Sandro had Marv support and that is Lotta clout


This is lie, Jelaous has/had rayn as mafia

I called him mafia when he made me angry and I had perfection as mafia?


Do you not anymore?


Why did cake never answer this?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2024 11:22 GMT
#4178
On March 07 2024 13:17 Rels wrote:
JAT I would really like an answer on this. Not really my defense on the shitty case, but the last part. I don't understand how what you wrote makes it so one of Palmar/me have to be scum

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 11:54 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 21:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Rels:
On March 06 2024 08:53 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:49 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:49 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:38 Rels wrote:
If Palmar was the leading wagon or counterwagon to him at the time, I don't see the issue? I can relate to not having the time



It's a stark difference to his level last game.

He posted a bit at the start of the game, got town read and noped out.

But hey, you can vote Jat with me if you want instead, or propose something else.

Will try to filter JAT before I have to go

I mean you could just go

LOL
I really have a hard time understanding this:
On March 06 2024 08:30 Rels wrote:
"I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it." => then 1 hour later "Wait you still think I'm mafia?"

?????

I don't know if there is any explanation you could give that would satisfy me, but, maybe try?

He seems very very sure about Palmar being mafia. So that is fine as long as the wagon had steam. After it died town we see this:
On March 06 2024 09:02 Rels wrote:
Finished reading JAT's filter, DP anything what was the thing(s) you saw that was not smart? I thought it was pretty empty for sure, didn't see any red flag though.

On March 06 2024 09:08 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn?

Yeah I guess this post from the sandroba case is pretty lackluster

Does not seem very strong either way. So I am not entirely sure how we arrive at this:
On March 06 2024 09:10 Rels wrote:
Gotta go. I would say out of the options I have, my preference would be Palmar > JAT > random lurker (out of those, I still think TTS has the highest chance of flipping scum)

Still think Trfel is town, I would prefer any random lurker over him

But that is finde. What is not fine is that he isn't bothered at all that he is pushing for the same lynch as his top scumread Palmar. So, do we believe Rels just throws all of his conviction out of the window to vote me with his one scumread based on a townread that is at best "weak"?
On March 06 2024 08:46 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 21:30 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2024 11:13 sandroba wrote:
On March 05 2024 10:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 10:54 sandroba wrote:
I feel like it's harder to argue against vivax mayor as mafia. Rels and palmar both entered the thread with that mindset. Pretty much ignored most of what happened for most of the thread but making sure they say what they were supposed to say as town about the vivax claim as soon as possible.
There are obviously town reasons to mayor vivax, but there is some reluctance I expect from townies. I think the over-eagerness to jump on the vivax train right away points to mafia.


Hard disagree. I find people who just accept it for what it is and make the correct play in regards to him is townie.

The scummy thing is talking around in circles about how shit vivax’s claim was, that he might not be town or if he is he is not confirmed

It’s a huge waste of time and shits up the thread and is also incredibly easy content to fake.

I found palmars approach to the situation very townie for example

Are you still lock town on trfel btw?

Didn't see much of people saying he might not be town. Shitting up the thread discussing the claim being bad I agree, CopCake is the main person I saw driving the discussion back to that.
I think saying he is prob town and prob not the best mayor, at least initially is the reaction I would expect from townies. Remember, even though scum might not want something, it's hard to actually push something when you think it would be obvious anti-town. Scum wants to hide and push things in a subtle way.
Not locked town on trfel since he hasn't been very active, but wouldn't lynch him d1 in a million years. What he has posted so far after the initial setup-focused posts looked super townie to me.

I really really really don't see that.
Last game I was so sure he was town.
What is he doing here? Everytime he gets pressured he moves away from it. Slam asks him about Oats. He gives a good answer but it lacks conviction. It looks way more as a mafia seeing Town!Oats be inquisitive than a townie figuring out Town!Oats is inquisitive.
Slam then pressures on and while replying to somebody else he @slam and disengages with him.

This can't be the same Tfrel as last game? You went 4 days with him. Under pressure by marv/DP/rayn iirc. This looks the same to you? I should follow your lead on him but it seems impossible.

The posts that made me think Trfel was townie at the beginning of the game, he showed some conviction:
On March 04 2024 13:19 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 13:11 DarthPunk wrote:
MZ could be mafia here.

That associative push with me/vivax is really out there. And usually I am the one defending him from being misylnched by all the bads.
Sorry I keep doing this, but why do you think that makes Meapak_Ziphh mafia? I don't see why that reasoning is more likely to come from mafia, if anything I think it's the opposite.

On March 04 2024 13:20 Trfel wrote:
I'm actually going to double down and say that I think Meapak_Ziphh is town. Thus, I'm very surprised that he seems to be your top scumread, DarthPunk.

Looking at the Slam question on Oats, it's this right?
On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:29 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:24 Rels wrote:
Look at this way of phrasing things, having to come with justification just for his vote

But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.

Am I the only one seeing this or what?
Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say.

@Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation.

So how do you?

He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects.

Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities?

What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that?
To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game.

On March 05 2024 04:47 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:38 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:29 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:24 Rels wrote:
Look at this way of phrasing things, having to come with justification just for his vote
[quote]
Am I the only one seeing this or what?
Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say.

@Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation.

So how do you?

He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects.

Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities?

What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that?
To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game.

Caring about what exactly?

Because if he cares to find actual scum, this pursuit of perfection doesn't seem to be a surefire way to me.

He was not far from lynching our cop, for example, for being a bit logically inconsistent- in Oatsmaster's mind.

I think Oats may suffer from some difficulty with theory of mind if he is town here, which I could relate to. In which case I would go right back from a growing SR to a TR.
I'm not confident enough in my read to be interested in defending Oatsmaster here, it's just the impression I got from his posts, which could be wrong. I will say though that whether or not his play is helpful doesn't matter as much as whether or not he truly thinks it is helpful.

I guess it's pretty weak conviction yeah. Don't think it's enough by itself to make him scumread him, let alone be my preferred lynch right now.

No issue at all it seems. Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia.

1 - At the time I voted you, the choice was between Trfel and you, and I somewhat townread Trfel
2 - Not voting you because of an associative reason D1 is dumb. I don't have a team comprising X number of mafia in my head, not at this stage of the game
Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia.

???? Why does anything you wrote there point to this?


Sure, you are right - the last part is not a conclusion of the findings in this post alone. You need to put it into context with the one about palmar I wrote just before this one. I think it is likely, that there is a mafia between you. Like rayn, I wouldn't even rule out that you are both.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2024 11:34 GMT
#4179
On March 07 2024 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
ANNOUNCEMENT TOWN

I have been given a Vig shot in the night.

I intend to VIG TTS.


This and the following claim by JSL is power role number 4 that claimed needlessly. Every single one of them. At least rayn only claimed in a mason chat but seriously wtf
Maybe you guys should start playing in Newbies again before you are allowed to play with the big boys.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
March 07 2024 11:45 GMT
#4180
On March 07 2024 15:05 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Everyone read post on MZ

I didn't like some of MZ's earlier posts. I too wished they had explained their TRs in that most recent list, and an explanation for the CopCake flip would have been great, too.

However, I really like this immediate jump on CopCake for being so insistent on grilling Alakaslam.

And none of that really changes anything for me for this cycle as of now, so yea, good night.

I disagree completely. Why is it protown to shut down discussion about the claimant and the check? Are we supposed to all just park our vote for 72 hours and go afk? To me what CopCake did here is objectively 100 % the correct way to approach this. It is lazy and not town oriented to go after this.
I think it says more about MZs alignment than CCs but the tendency is exactly the opposite of what you are saying in my opinion. It makes MZ look really bad and CC slightly better.
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