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I still think Oats is quite towny btw. - also in his reaction to the check. Still 100 % the lynch today but it would not surprise me if he flipped Miller.
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On March 07 2024 20:22 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 13:17 Rels wrote:JAT I would really like an answer on this. Not really my defense on the shitty case, but the last part. I don't understand how what you wrote makes it so one of Palmar/me have to be scumOn March 07 2024 11:54 Rels wrote:On March 06 2024 21:48 justanothertownie wrote:Rels: On March 06 2024 08:53 Rels wrote:On March 06 2024 08:49 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 08:49 Rels wrote:On March 06 2024 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 08:38 Rels wrote:
If Palmar was the leading wagon or counterwagon to him at the time, I don't see the issue? I can relate to not having the time It's a stark difference to his level last game. He posted a bit at the start of the game, got town read and noped out. But hey, you can vote Jat with me if you want instead, or propose something else. Will try to filter JAT before I have to go I mean you could just go LOL I really have a hard time understanding this: On March 06 2024 08:30 Rels wrote:
"I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it." => then 1 hour later "Wait you still think I'm mafia?"
????? I don't know if there is any explanation you could give that would satisfy me, but, maybe try? He seems very very sure about Palmar being mafia. So that is fine as long as the wagon had steam. After it died town we see this: On March 06 2024 09:02 Rels wrote:
Finished reading JAT's filter, DP anything what was the thing(s) you saw that was not smart? I thought it was pretty empty for sure, didn't see any red flag though. On March 06 2024 09:08 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn? Yeah I guess this post from the sandroba case is pretty lackluster Does not seem very strong either way. So I am not entirely sure how we arrive at this: On March 06 2024 09:10 Rels wrote:
Gotta go. I would say out of the options I have, my preference would be Palmar > JAT > random lurker (out of those, I still think TTS has the highest chance of flipping scum)
Still think Trfel is town, I would prefer any random lurker over him But that is finde. What is not fine is that he isn't bothered at all that he is pushing for the same lynch as his top scumread Palmar. So, do we believe Rels just throws all of his conviction out of the window to vote me with his one scumread based on a townread that is at best "weak"? On March 06 2024 08:46 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 21:30 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 11:13 sandroba wrote:On March 05 2024 10:58 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 10:54 sandroba wrote:
I feel like it's harder to argue against vivax mayor as mafia. Rels and palmar both entered the thread with that mindset. Pretty much ignored most of what happened for most of the thread but making sure they say what they were supposed to say as town about the vivax claim as soon as possible.
There are obviously town reasons to mayor vivax, but there is some reluctance I expect from townies. I think the over-eagerness to jump on the vivax train right away points to mafia. Hard disagree. I find people who just accept it for what it is and make the correct play in regards to him is townie. The scummy thing is talking around in circles about how shit vivax’s claim was, that he might not be town or if he is he is not confirmed It’s a huge waste of time and shits up the thread and is also incredibly easy content to fake. I found palmars approach to the situation very townie for example Are you still lock town on trfel btw? Didn't see much of people saying he might not be town. Shitting up the thread discussing the claim being bad I agree, CopCake is the main person I saw driving the discussion back to that. I think saying he is prob town and prob not the best mayor, at least initially is the reaction I would expect from townies. Remember, even though scum might not want something, it's hard to actually push something when you think it would be obvious anti-town. Scum wants to hide and push things in a subtle way. Not locked town on trfel since he hasn't been very active, but wouldn't lynch him d1 in a million years. What he has posted so far after the initial setup-focused posts looked super townie to me. I really really really don't see that. Last game I was so sure he was town. What is he doing here? Everytime he gets pressured he moves away from it. Slam asks him about Oats. He gives a good answer but it lacks conviction. It looks way more as a mafia seeing Town!Oats be inquisitive than a townie figuring out Town!Oats is inquisitive. Slam then pressures on and while replying to somebody else he @slam and disengages with him. This can't be the same Tfrel as last game? You went 4 days with him. Under pressure by marv/DP/rayn iirc. This looks the same to you? I should follow your lead on him but it seems impossible. The posts that made me think Trfel was townie at the beginning of the game, he showed some conviction: On March 04 2024 13:19 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 13:11 DarthPunk wrote:
MZ could be mafia here.
That associative push with me/vivax is really out there. And usually I am the one defending him from being misylnched by all the bads. Sorry I keep doing this, but why do you think that makes Meapak_Ziphh mafia? I don't see why that reasoning is more likely to come from mafia, if anything I think it's the opposite. On March 04 2024 13:20 Trfel wrote:
I'm actually going to double down and say that I think Meapak_Ziphh is town. Thus, I'm very surprised that he seems to be your top scumread, DarthPunk. Looking at the Slam question on Oats, it's this right? On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:24 Rels wrote:Look at this way of phrasing things, having to come with justification just for his vote
But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.
Am I the only one seeing this or what? Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say. @Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. So how do you? He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects. Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities? What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that? To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game. On March 05 2024 04:47 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:38 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 Trfel wrote:
[quote]Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say.
@Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. So how do you? He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects. Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities? What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that? To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game. Caring about what exactly? Because if he cares to find actual scum, this pursuit of perfection doesn't seem to be a surefire way to me. He was not far from lynching our cop, for example, for being a bit logically inconsistent- in Oatsmaster's mind. I think Oats may suffer from some difficulty with theory of mind if he is town here, which I could relate to. In which case I would go right back from a growing SR to a TR. I'm not confident enough in my read to be interested in defending Oatsmaster here, it's just the impression I got from his posts, which could be wrong. I will say though that whether or not his play is helpful doesn't matter as much as whether or not he truly thinks it is helpful. I guess it's pretty weak conviction yeah. Don't think it's enough by itself to make him scumread him, let alone be my preferred lynch right now. No issue at all it seems. Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia. 1 - At the time I voted you, the choice was between Trfel and you, and I somewhat townread Trfel 2 - Not voting you because of an associative reason D1 is dumb. I don't have a team comprising X number of mafia in my head, not at this stage of the game Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia. ???? Why does anything you wrote there point to this? Sure, you are right - the last part is not a conclusion of the findings in this post alone. You need to put it into context with the one about palmar I wrote just before this one. I think it is likely, that there is a mafia between you. Like rayn, I wouldn't even rule out that you are both.
You're saying this but I still don't get it even taking the Palmar case in consideration. It's nothing more than "I scumread Palmar and Rels so there must be one scum between them in my worldview"? Or if it's something, can you summarize it in one sentence?
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TTS is Naerys from last game ?
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We have Oats who got redchecked you can just park there and enjoy the autopilot day.
I didn‘t vote yet cuz I‘m lazy like that.
Marv complaining about the jailkeeper mayor is lowkey scummy he is approaching the dreadful moment of scum not having a roleblocker.
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On March 07 2024 22:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 20:22 justanothertownie wrote:On March 07 2024 13:17 Rels wrote:JAT I would really like an answer on this. Not really my defense on the shitty case, but the last part. I don't understand how what you wrote makes it so one of Palmar/me have to be scumOn March 07 2024 11:54 Rels wrote:On March 06 2024 21:48 justanothertownie wrote:Rels: On March 06 2024 08:53 Rels wrote:On March 06 2024 08:49 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 08:49 Rels wrote:On March 06 2024 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 08:38 Rels wrote:
If Palmar was the leading wagon or counterwagon to him at the time, I don't see the issue? I can relate to not having the time It's a stark difference to his level last game. He posted a bit at the start of the game, got town read and noped out. But hey, you can vote Jat with me if you want instead, or propose something else. Will try to filter JAT before I have to go I mean you could just go LOL I really have a hard time understanding this: On March 06 2024 08:30 Rels wrote:
"I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it." => then 1 hour later "Wait you still think I'm mafia?"
????? I don't know if there is any explanation you could give that would satisfy me, but, maybe try? He seems very very sure about Palmar being mafia. So that is fine as long as the wagon had steam. After it died town we see this: On March 06 2024 09:02 Rels wrote:
Finished reading JAT's filter, DP anything what was the thing(s) you saw that was not smart? I thought it was pretty empty for sure, didn't see any red flag though. On March 06 2024 09:08 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn? Yeah I guess this post from the sandroba case is pretty lackluster Does not seem very strong either way. So I am not entirely sure how we arrive at this: On March 06 2024 09:10 Rels wrote:
Gotta go. I would say out of the options I have, my preference would be Palmar > JAT > random lurker (out of those, I still think TTS has the highest chance of flipping scum)
Still think Trfel is town, I would prefer any random lurker over him But that is finde. What is not fine is that he isn't bothered at all that he is pushing for the same lynch as his top scumread Palmar. So, do we believe Rels just throws all of his conviction out of the window to vote me with his one scumread based on a townread that is at best "weak"? On March 06 2024 08:46 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 21:30 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 11:13 sandroba wrote:On March 05 2024 10:58 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 10:54 sandroba wrote:
I feel like it's harder to argue against vivax mayor as mafia. Rels and palmar both entered the thread with that mindset. Pretty much ignored most of what happened for most of the thread but making sure they say what they were supposed to say as town about the vivax claim as soon as possible.
There are obviously town reasons to mayor vivax, but there is some reluctance I expect from townies. I think the over-eagerness to jump on the vivax train right away points to mafia. Hard disagree. I find people who just accept it for what it is and make the correct play in regards to him is townie. The scummy thing is talking around in circles about how shit vivax’s claim was, that he might not be town or if he is he is not confirmed It’s a huge waste of time and shits up the thread and is also incredibly easy content to fake. I found palmars approach to the situation very townie for example Are you still lock town on trfel btw? Didn't see much of people saying he might not be town. Shitting up the thread discussing the claim being bad I agree, CopCake is the main person I saw driving the discussion back to that. I think saying he is prob town and prob not the best mayor, at least initially is the reaction I would expect from townies. Remember, even though scum might not want something, it's hard to actually push something when you think it would be obvious anti-town. Scum wants to hide and push things in a subtle way. Not locked town on trfel since he hasn't been very active, but wouldn't lynch him d1 in a million years. What he has posted so far after the initial setup-focused posts looked super townie to me. I really really really don't see that. Last game I was so sure he was town. What is he doing here? Everytime he gets pressured he moves away from it. Slam asks him about Oats. He gives a good answer but it lacks conviction. It looks way more as a mafia seeing Town!Oats be inquisitive than a townie figuring out Town!Oats is inquisitive. Slam then pressures on and while replying to somebody else he @slam and disengages with him. This can't be the same Tfrel as last game? You went 4 days with him. Under pressure by marv/DP/rayn iirc. This looks the same to you? I should follow your lead on him but it seems impossible. The posts that made me think Trfel was townie at the beginning of the game, he showed some conviction: On March 04 2024 13:19 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 13:11 DarthPunk wrote:
MZ could be mafia here.
That associative push with me/vivax is really out there. And usually I am the one defending him from being misylnched by all the bads. Sorry I keep doing this, but why do you think that makes Meapak_Ziphh mafia? I don't see why that reasoning is more likely to come from mafia, if anything I think it's the opposite. On March 04 2024 13:20 Trfel wrote:
I'm actually going to double down and say that I think Meapak_Ziphh is town. Thus, I'm very surprised that he seems to be your top scumread, DarthPunk. Looking at the Slam question on Oats, it's this right? On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:24 Rels wrote:
Look at this way of phrasing things, having to come with justification just for his vote
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Am I the only one seeing this or what? Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say. @Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. So how do you? He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects. Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities? What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that? To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game. On March 05 2024 04:47 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:38 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:
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So how do you?
He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects.
Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities?
What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that? To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game. Caring about what exactly? Because if he cares to find actual scum, this pursuit of perfection doesn't seem to be a surefire way to me. He was not far from lynching our cop, for example, for being a bit logically inconsistent- in Oatsmaster's mind. I think Oats may suffer from some difficulty with theory of mind if he is town here, which I could relate to. In which case I would go right back from a growing SR to a TR. I'm not confident enough in my read to be interested in defending Oatsmaster here, it's just the impression I got from his posts, which could be wrong. I will say though that whether or not his play is helpful doesn't matter as much as whether or not he truly thinks it is helpful. I guess it's pretty weak conviction yeah. Don't think it's enough by itself to make him scumread him, let alone be my preferred lynch right now. No issue at all it seems. Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia. 1 - At the time I voted you, the choice was between Trfel and you, and I somewhat townread Trfel 2 - Not voting you because of an associative reason D1 is dumb. I don't have a team comprising X number of mafia in my head, not at this stage of the game Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia. ???? Why does anything you wrote there point to this? Sure, you are right - the last part is not a conclusion of the findings in this post alone. You need to put it into context with the one about palmar I wrote just before this one. I think it is likely, that there is a mafia between you. Like rayn, I wouldn't even rule out that you are both. You're saying this but I still don't get it even taking the Palmar case in consideration. It's nothing more than "I scumread Palmar and Rels so there must be one scum between them in my worldview"? Or if it's something, can you summarize it in one sentence?
No, it is not only that (but of course also true). First of all you were very convinced he is mafia. Since I consider you a good player that makes it more likely he is mafia if you are not. Second you had 0 issue to switch with him onto my wagon while being this convinced about him. Which is what triggered rayn so hard. Made the most sense to him if you are both mafia and you were pushing your buddy for a reason you genuinely believe makes him scum but I think you could also do it if he is town and you want your vote to look relevant. Forgetting that you probably should not uncritically follow your #1 mafia read onto his preferred wagon.
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I'm flying today again so I'll be out of pocket for 10ish hours like last time. Palmar never responded to me which tbh I was kinda afraid would happen (and I think is NAI) but I was hoping a chat with him would solidify my town read of him and we could work through some of the players I'm having a harder time with.
Probably should have masoned someone in my own timezone but oh well, didn't really consider that.
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Still havznt reread Oats.
But lynching somebody who seems townie is retarded.
Mafia needs to rb Vivax. So they cant keep slam alive.
Why cant we lynch MZ today?
Oats can be alive as long as we want.
Is the traitor a redcheck before recruited? Because that would also make sense.
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On March 07 2024 22:37 Koshi wrote:
Still havznt reread Oats.
But lynching somebody who seems townie is retarded.
Mafia needs to rb Vivax. So they cant keep slam alive.
Why cant we lynch MZ today?
Oats can be alive as long as we want.
Is the traitor a redcheck before recruited? Because that would also make sense.
I like your contrarian position. I will be your devil‘s advocate.
But why MZ ?
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On March 07 2024 22:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 22:37 Koshi wrote:
Still havznt reread Oats.
But lynching somebody who seems townie is retarded.
Mafia needs to rb Vivax. So they cant keep slam alive.
Why cant we lynch MZ today?
Oats can be alive as long as we want.
Is the traitor a redcheck before recruited? Because that would also make sense. I like your contrarian position. I will be your devil‘s advocate. But why MZ ?
I also havent read MZ or thought of a case beyond. "He typed lmao after the 2 town flips during n1"
It's a bit more nuanced but not really.
I just dont understand why we are lynching a townread. Framer, miller or slam is lying (maybe not that)
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On March 07 2024 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Oats is town for the scumslip thing on Cake. In addition I like how he didn't vote Tfrel when iamp and DP went for him.
Vivax is so town for keeping up with the thread. And he saw the same rage after flip from CC as I did.
big oooooffff on iamp replying to tfrel on the mental health issues. That can't come from mafia iamp.
Copcake seems genuine upset after the lynch. Solidifies my townread on her. Also her scumreads are people who will be killed in the next 2 nights. It will be glorious to see her posts on D3.
JAT made a scumcase on my 2 scums. Good stuff.
Town!MZ would have been angered by the 2 townflips. His first post after the lynch is 2 pages further and starts with lmfo. He is a prime candidate for mafia.
Rels posts read uninterested. Good case from JAT on Rels.
I'm taking it your scum read is here, bc you didn't like the way I reacted to the lynch? I was extremely frustrated with people lynching someone I had a townread on and also frustrated that I've spent most of the game playing catchup on the thread.
I feel like every time I've pointed out stuff that I view is scummy, nobody responds and when I ask people direct questions they just blow me off, Palmar not responding to the whisper is kinda the cherry on top. If you're gonna try to lynch me instead of a literal red check because I said lmfao in a post then I don't think I have anything productive to say to you to change your mind. It feels like the folks who have filtered me only do so bc they want confirmation to their assumption that I'm scum.
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Strong pick by slam. Pretty sure it is legit after quickly looking at Slams post before EoN.
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Slam posted a readslist and survived the night but that could have been rayn‘s doing. It speaks against a fakeclaim mostly.
I don‘t discount one of those to be additional scum KP.
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On March 07 2024 22:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 22:41 Vivax wrote:On March 07 2024 22:37 Koshi wrote:
Still havznt reread Oats.
But lynching somebody who seems townie is retarded.
Mafia needs to rb Vivax. So they cant keep slam alive.
Why cant we lynch MZ today?
Oats can be alive as long as we want.
Is the traitor a redcheck before recruited? Because that would also make sense. I like your contrarian position. I will be your devil‘s advocate. But why MZ ? I also havent read MZ or thought of a case beyond. "He typed lmao after the 2 town flips during n1" It's a bit more nuanced but not really. I just dont understand why we are lynching a townread. Framer, miller or slam is lying (maybe not that)
Be better than this Koshi. That's an objectively terrible case to lynch me on instead of a red check. If you were arguing for someone like VE I'd still say you're wrong because the chance this check is wrong is so low. Even if it wasn't me you're scum reading I'd still say this is bad.
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On March 07 2024 22:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Oats is town for the scumslip thing on Cake. In addition I like how he didn't vote Tfrel when iamp and DP went for him.
Vivax is so town for keeping up with the thread. And he saw the same rage after flip from CC as I did.
big oooooffff on iamp replying to tfrel on the mental health issues. That can't come from mafia iamp.
Copcake seems genuine upset after the lynch. Solidifies my townread on her. Also her scumreads are people who will be killed in the next 2 nights. It will be glorious to see her posts on D3.
JAT made a scumcase on my 2 scums. Good stuff.
Town!MZ would have been angered by the 2 townflips. His first post after the lynch is 2 pages further and starts with lmfo. He is a prime candidate for mafia.
Rels posts read uninterested. Good case from JAT on Rels. I'm taking it your scum read is here, bc you didn't like the way I reacted to the lynch? I was extremely frustrated with people lynching someone I had a townread on and also frustrated that I've spent most of the game playing catchup on the thread. I feel like every time I've pointed out stuff that I view is scummy, nobody responds and when I ask people direct questions they just blow me off, Palmar not responding to the whisper is kinda the cherry on top. If you're gonna try to lynch me instead of a literal red check because I said lmfao in a post then I don't think I have anything productive to say to you to change your mind. It feels like the folks who have filtered me only do so bc they want confirmation to their assumption that I'm scum.
I remember you being supermad after a pretty good townlynch 3 games ago. This time you didnt even flynch.
Anyway. I still have to read your filter. And will quote the post I am talking about. And for completeness will add all other post flip reactions since then.
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On March 07 2024 22:49 Vivax wrote:
Slam posted a readslist and survived the night but that could have been rayn‘s doing. It speaks against a fakeclaim mostly.
I don‘t discount one of those to be additional scum KP.
They have 2 kp first 2 nights?
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On March 07 2024 22:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 22:46 Koshi wrote:On March 07 2024 22:41 Vivax wrote:On March 07 2024 22:37 Koshi wrote:
Still havznt reread Oats.
But lynching somebody who seems townie is retarded.
Mafia needs to rb Vivax. So they cant keep slam alive.
Why cant we lynch MZ today?
Oats can be alive as long as we want.
Is the traitor a redcheck before recruited? Because that would also make sense. I like your contrarian position. I will be your devil‘s advocate. But why MZ ? I also havent read MZ or thought of a case beyond. "He typed lmao after the 2 town flips during n1" It's a bit more nuanced but not really. I just dont understand why we are lynching a townread. Framer, miller or slam is lying (maybe not that) Be better than this Koshi. That's an objectively terrible case to lynch me on instead of a red check. If you were arguing for someone like VE I'd still say you're wrong because the chance this check is wrong is so low. Even if it wasn't me you're scum reading I'd still say this is bad.
Yes obviously it is terrible. But is it wrong? 
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On March 07 2024 22:53 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 22:49 Vivax wrote:
Slam posted a readslist and survived the night but that could have been rayn‘s doing. It speaks against a fakeclaim mostly.
I don‘t discount one of those to be additional scum KP.
They have 2 kp first 2 nights?
Koshi mafia
Nobody in this game reads the OP. It is known.
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Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him.
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On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him.
What Oats does today is entirely WIFOM if he is mafia.
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On March 07 2024 22:53 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 22:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 22:46 Koshi wrote:On March 07 2024 22:41 Vivax wrote:On March 07 2024 22:37 Koshi wrote:
Still havznt reread Oats.
But lynching somebody who seems townie is retarded.
Mafia needs to rb Vivax. So they cant keep slam alive.
Why cant we lynch MZ today?
Oats can be alive as long as we want.
Is the traitor a redcheck before recruited? Because that would also make sense. I like your contrarian position. I will be your devil‘s advocate. But why MZ ? I also havent read MZ or thought of a case beyond. "He typed lmao after the 2 town flips during n1" It's a bit more nuanced but not really. I just dont understand why we are lynching a townread. Framer, miller or slam is lying (maybe not that) Be better than this Koshi. That's an objectively terrible case to lynch me on instead of a red check. If you were arguing for someone like VE I'd still say you're wrong because the chance this check is wrong is so low. Even if it wasn't me you're scum reading I'd still say this is bad. Yes obviously it is terrible. But is it wrong?
Yes it's wrong and made worse by the fact that Oats also came after me. Especially if VE is scum along with TTS it seems as if a lot of the scum team is out in the open at this point so I could easily see a bold play to try and save oats/save the game for the scum. I just didn't expect you to be part of it.
I'm not straight up scum reading you for this but I'm having a hard time finding the town motives for this.
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