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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 07 2024 22:57 justanothertownie wrote: What Oats does today is entirely WIFOM if he is mafia. I know which is why I wasn't even gonna bother saying anything until Koshi showed up with the same stuff. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought. If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch. Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. If that last line is true. I must look very scummy in your eyes. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:02 Koshi wrote: If that last line is true. I must look very scummy in your eyes. I mean the Oats case is pure wifom if he's scum as JAT pointed out but yes, that pinged me right away that the first thing you do when you show up is suggest a lynch on me. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 07 2024 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: A few things: Slam, Vivax will work out by themselves. Caliin them mafia is completely useless. Lynch Palmar, lynch VE. After D3 there is noone left to do that anymore and people AGAIN let them slide bewcause noone listen to dead people. Oh. Maybe I shouldnt fuck up and listen to rayn. Ok. It's Oats or Palmar. Think I'll vote Palmar. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:05 Koshi wrote: Ok. So we believe slam is town? Dude please just read the thread from the flips until now. The only chance scum slam is doing this is if he's going for a 1for1 which as we already established during the mayor vote for vivax is an objectively bad enough play for scum and that occams razor says slam is town. The thread had a fairly similar discussion on this with copcake last night. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:07 Koshi wrote: Oh. Maybe I shouldnt fuck up and listen to rayn. Ok. It's Oats or Palmar. Think I'll vote Palmar. Your desire to find an alternative to the red check is making you less town by the minute. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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Jealous
10253 Posts
On March 07 2024 20:45 justanothertownie wrote: I disagree completely. Why is it protown to shut down discussion about the claimant and the check? Are we supposed to all just park our vote for 72 hours and go afk? To me what CopCake did here is objectively 100 % the correct way to approach this. It is lazy and not town oriented to go after this. I think it says more about MZs alignment than CCs but the tendency is exactly the opposite of what you are saying in my opinion. It makes MZ look really bad and CC slightly better. Because as I see it, there is only one correct answer for how to approach this cycle and lynch, and spending so much effort grilling Slam about it is just trying to sow seeds of chaos for no reason, which only serves to benefit our only scum flip. Thus, the fact that MZ jumped in and tried to shut that shit down looks good on them. I would say that about anyone who did that. MZ really sunk their teeth into it, too - even though they probably didn't have to. On March 07 2024 20:52 justanothertownie wrote: I still think Oats is quite towny btw. - also in his reaction to the check. Still 100 % the lynch today but it would not surprise me if he flipped Miller. Okay, glad I remembered to keep reading before responding. However, if that is what your opinion is, I guess I don't understand seeing Cop in a favorable light when they claim to not see a world where Slam was scum in the first place but chose to grill Slam anyway. Is this a person who just doesn't understand how the game works at all, or is it just a scummy player doing scummy things yet again? This might be bias, but compare it to how Koshi just did basically the same thing but in a more productive way. I do have to say that I am surprised that he is approaching the topic from this angle at all, but the way he is doing it is way better than just repeating "WHY OATS SLAM?!?" and then looking like you don't understand that there is a small chance that Oats is Miller or Slam is being a madman scum. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought. If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch. Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote: DP and Vivax what are your reads? All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town? The post feels like trying to pretend to be clueless. I think they flipped town. Nobody would talk like that. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote: I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. ^^^ | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote: Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. They might or might not depending on the team. But I think grilling slam and sowing doubt on the check is the wrong thing to do this cycle. We could instead be discussing VE or TTS or even yourself and be planning ahead for tomorrow rather than losing this day to what is essentially WIFOM discussion about the check. I think it's easier for scum to just chum up the thread with pointless discussion on whether Slam's check is good or not. Scum don't even have to get Oats out of the check to have a succesful day, just spend it wasting time on pointless discussion rather than other potential scum. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:15 Jealous wrote: Because as I see it, there is only one correct answer for how to approach this cycle and lynch, and spending so much effort grilling Slam about it is just trying to sow seeds of chaos for no reason, which only serves to benefit our only scum flip. Thus, the fact that MZ jumped in and tried to shut that shit down looks good on them. I would say that about anyone who did that. MZ really sunk their teeth into it, too - even though they probably didn't have to. Okay, glad I remembered to keep reading before responding. However, if that is what your opinion is, I guess I don't understand seeing Cop in a favorable light when they claim to not see a world where Slam was scum in the first place but chose to grill Slam anyway. Is this a person who just doesn't understand how the game works at all, or is it just a scummy player doing scummy things yet again? This might be bias, but compare it to how Koshi just did basically the same thing but in a more productive way. I do have to say that I am surprised that he is approaching the topic from this angle at all, but the way he is doing it is way better than just repeating "WHY OATS SLAM?!?" and then looking like you don't understand that there is a small chance that Oats is Miller or Slam is being a madman scum. Why would mafia approach it from this angle at all? What's the motivation in your opinion? As Marv said - they know they won't derail this lynch. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: They might or might not depending on the team. But I think grilling slam and sowing doubt on the check is the wrong thing to do this cycle. We could instead be discussing VE or TTS or even yourself and be planning ahead for tomorrow rather than losing this day to what is essentially WIFOM discussion about the check. I think it's easier for scum to just chum up the thread with pointless discussion on whether Slam's check is good or not. Scum don't even have to get Oats out of the check to have a succesful day, just spend it wasting time on pointless discussion rather than other potential scum. That's fair enough. But also it is not what you said earlier. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On March 07 2024 18:34 marvellosity wrote: Below every post there is a grey filter button. Also in the op you can click peoples names in the sign up list and it will open their filter You used to be cool man. | ||
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Jealous
10253 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:31 justanothertownie wrote: Why would mafia approach it from this angle at all? What's the motivation in your opinion? As Marv said - they know they won't derail this lynch. See above, it's what I mean by "sow chaos." | ||
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Jealous
10253 Posts
On March 07 2024 23:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: They might or might not depending on the team. But I think grilling slam and sowing doubt on the check is the wrong thing to do this cycle. We could instead be discussing VE or TTS or even yourself and be planning ahead for tomorrow rather than losing this day to what is essentially WIFOM discussion about the check. I think it's easier for scum to just chum up the thread with pointless discussion on whether Slam's check is good or not. Scum don't even have to get Oats out of the check to have a succesful day, just spend it wasting time on pointless discussion rather than other potential scum. ^ And fill the discussion with more people who are on their side of the WIFOM, which now includes JAT, Koshi, Cop, so that it becomes less clear who is the scum among them. | ||
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Jealous
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