On March 14 2024 04:46 CopCake wrote:This is the read in which DP is town Night 1.- + Show Spoiler +-Jacob gives a gun to DP (Confirmed)
That is understandable because Jacob loves DP and trusts him.
-Slam checks Oats (Confirmed)
-Rayn protected Slam according to Marv, and it fits. We know Marv was town so.
-Vivax Jailed DP
- Rayn died
- Sandro died
Conclusion:
In my opinion, a mafia vig went for Slam, and Rayn saved him. This is not confirmed, but it is the most likely scenario. I also think Vivax was blocked during this phase. It is not confirmed, but it is very probable.Night 2.- + Show Spoiler +-DP shoots TTS (Confirmed)
- Vivax jails slam
- Slam dies
- Marv dies
Following this idea (DP town) makes me believe that DP didn't get blocked because
1.- TTS was already getting grilled, and his inactivity would have made him go to the lynch pile instead of VE, perhaps. So, if he died, it was like, meh, besides, he was just "a goon."
2. The Mafia gambled and was very sure DP would shoot either a townie (DMB and I were the ones I remember he mentioned more, apparently I read somewhere he also mentioned VE?) because of how we had been acting the whole game—DP vs. Cake, Cake vs. DP.
Point 2 also makes me believe that a Mafia participated in the last game I played and saw the DP vs. Cake that happened there. They are pulling the strings to make us fight, and it doesn't help that my personality and DPs don't get along. It could be his paranoia or my stubbornness; who knows, but I think the Mafia is exploiting this in the worldview that DP is town.
Night 3 + Show Spoiler +This is a bit tricky because I will be assuming things according to what I have seen in the relationship between DP and Jacob so far in this game and the other. DP has shown a soft side for his Aussie boys, TTT and Jacob, who, regardless of whether Jacob is right on his reads according to DP or not in an opinion, DP would take a deep breath and try to think about Jacob's point of view.
In addition, Jacob's death does not add any new information to the thread except for confirming that he was the gunsmith and that the crazy theory that got planted of Jacob-DMB-DP does not exist. Most people were already assuming he was the gunsmith; tone-wise, Jacob sounded bubbly, adorable, free, and happy. His enthusiasm was pretty townie.
Nevertheless, why Jacob and not DP? DP has a more strong presence. This is from my POV, but it is because the mafia more likely wants DP vs Cake and that we fuck up.
Marv is an excellent player, and he was one of the people who said, "DP, Cake, please stop."
Jacob also was, "Cake, DP is town," and yesterday he said, "I think Cake is town DP."
Killing a confirmed blue role is not surprising. If they had killed DP, Jacob would have been confirmed. Killing Jacob doesn't confirm DP; that is why DP is alive if he is in town.
If DP is town, the mafia wants the rest of the townies to have paranoia over DP. Let's say DP gets to lynch me; I flip town; who looks BAD?
I would assume DP would get all fuck this shit, fuck you, cake, you played so scummy, fuck I need to rearrange my ideas. If he is town, I would believe he would get extremely frustrated and probably a bit - sad?, maybe - because I think he is like a big bear that is super deadly but also has this - soft - side. I mean, he is friends with Jacob, so I guess he is between TTT (who is super serious) and a little less bubbly and shiny than Jacob.
In this scenario,
DMB is cleared. I also noticed that people act like vultures around her to see if she does something scummy.
So that leaves us with these reads from the top of my head. I want to filter dive them with scrutinity but who am I kidding? I might not be able to do it because - irl -
+ Show Spoiler +Vivax: I think action activity from the night he is almost clear,
Jealous: This one is clouded because he makes me go with two emotions simultaneously. Bothers me a lot; he is like CAKE, HAVE YOU READ DPS GAME, CAKE WHERE ARE THE SCREENSHOTS, like I wasn't lying the I am sad thing, etc. I don't want to post anymore. So I cant read a neutral read. I mean he called me out and make a joke of me and jat being stupid for saying vivax could be mafia and now he is trying to recreate the world in which vivax is mafia, say what?
Meapak_Ziphh: I think he is town, this read is by tone and personality.
Palmar: I have said enough. But after filtering Koshi with scrutinity I am like ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
justanothertownie: He... exists?
Iamperfection: I think he is the most neutral one, trying to scum hunt, agressive in a nice way, there was this thing while reading Oats filter that he seemed also so obsessed with Iamperfection, idk if he was trying to pocket Iamp or what. Like the discussed, it wasnt all butterflies and agreements.
Koshi: This one is weird too because I dont know how to take his actions from my close lynch and after that. I also feel like I am a doll here, like a "I told you so she was town you fucking idiots" when I flip town if DP gets me lynched. After that he would try to "drive" the town.
Rels: The biggest problem I have with Rels is that he town reads me for the same reasons he scum reads me FROM THE SAME GAME; it should be one or the other. I also think, maybe? He tried to save me because my flip would give DP a new perspective of the game? Me being alive creates more chaos, I must admit.
So in conclusion:
Koshi/Rels/Someone
If DP is town, Koshi fits the "let us make DP and Cake fight" besides there are these posts
Koshi claims I am unreadable and then that he has read me once. If he cant read me how is he townreading me so hard atm?
On March 05 2024 05:24 Koshi wrote:
I am on page 25 right now and I am not getting anything out of it anymore.
Oats posts too much to be lynched today. I don't enjoy reading his posts but that doesn't make him mafia. I think he deserves time to develop his play due to activity.
Copcake is unreadable. I don't feel like she is hiding though. I just don't get what she is thinking yet.
tfrel I will filter right now. He is also in my null pile with all these people but the most in hiding.
Slam is being slam. Not going to go further into that. He can stay alive, but if rayn kills him I won't be upset.
mebaby made bad posts and a couple sensible posts after that doesn't change that. She is in red territory but won't be lynched most likely because she is active enough. (shouldn't be lynched d1 in such a big game imo)
On March 05 2024 06:06 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 05:59 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 05:57 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:sandroba what marv is telling you is true.
lol this is funny
On March 05 2024 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:51 iamperfection wrote:
I do find it odd marv isn't posting in the thread
I told a couple of hours ago to him that people are gonna scumread him for playing the game only in discord with 2 mason chats ^^
If mafia makes me mayor. I am willing to shoot marv.
Just putting that out there.
0 fucks would be given.
Great way to not end up as mayor.
Koshi can I have a list post? Doesn’t need to be everyone just enough so that I can see where your head is at
page 36 and too angry to continue.
But
town:
iamp cuz town best time was in the first pages and he was a driving factor.
dp: I wrote 'good interpretation of DP vs Oats' but that seems incorrect. That being said. I don't dislike your copcake stuff but I haven't read it because it doesn't spark anything in me.
I am pretty sure I read copcake really good of one of her first posts in a previous game because she backtracked on a story after being called out. So I am waiting on her to fuck up. She is just playing a different game as me here, but not in a bad way.
Vivax I like him
MZ Ugly posts, but I can see him being town and him finding his way
Null
Oats
Mafia
DMB because bad start
TheNewGuy because I don't like that entrance
Tfrel because reasoning given. Too safe.
marv because he can die
Here he tells me DP mafia, later he says DP is town. Just remember this.
On March 07 2024 05:43 Koshi wrote:On March 06 2024 14:05 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 13:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Its completely unreasonable to think those people are mafia for lynching Trfel unless you think Palmar is 100% mafia.
My theory is that they wanted Tfrel out of the equation. I honestly do not know where to place Palmar there.
Ie. Koshi wanted to lynch Tfrel but he respected other people’s view on him he contained (even mine)
Here, we have vivax who called tfrel bad and mafia many times for not being active when I proved that Tfrel is not a spammer.
🤷🏽♀️
They only started the wagon because DP came in. DP knows about Tfrel good reads.
It also bugs me a lot that Tfrel HAVE talked about his mental health issues before and there are several active TL frequent posters who know that.
I have never also found Vivax to be pedantic? And in this game it feels so. He tends to fight the status quo but not here.
Vivax is never mafia. He is too active, too funny and he is making really good observations.
The other 2 are fair game if you want to pursue them.
I think DP could be mafia. We should limit his posts to 60 for D2. If he does more we policy lynch him.
I think he very well could be mafia shitting up this thread. Here I was considering why Mafia didnt kill Slam, but Koshi threw the shade of - Slam might be not blue and lied - to protect Oats?
On March 08 2024 02:28 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 02:24 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 02:23 Koshi wrote:
If you want my opinion:
rayn: because ve and or Palmar are mafia. I think mafia wouldn't kill rayn over marv if it wasnt the reads. Marv has way more pull in the thread. (Supertinfoil. Cuz marv is mafia and rayn claimed to him)
I forgot thz second kill lol. I am going insane.
You need to consider Mafia either didnt believe Slam´s claim or were more afraid of Rayn / Sandro
Yeah. Why not shoot slam.
Would mafia have known rayn was blue?
Because that would make it less likely slam also is blue?But then
marv is mafia.
Here he thinks DP is town (Remember when he told me DP could be mafia) and comments about me like yeah cake is townie but she can be traitor
On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.
So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.
If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.
You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.
CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1.
but at the same time, inmediatly considers Jacob not Gunsmith? If you read DP town, shouldnt Koshi consider Jacob lock town there? Here he also says OATS needs to die but later does everything to save him.
On March 08 2024 17:18 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 17:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.
So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.
If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.
You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.
CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1.
Koshi talk to me, where are you at right now
You have to die because I am too time constrained to reread and get invested. I am quite clueless this game. Those names I posted earlier are my choices but I dont have good reasons. It's more PoE.
MZ I think is mafia. Really think he is faking activity when he is here. And he has some towntells he didnt show. (Rage after lynch)
Rels is playing a safe scumgame and will be very hard to lynch.
Is Jacob confirmed blue gunsmith? Because I also think he might be mafia. Bit if he is blue that is wrong ofc.My townreads are pretty solid I think. (Yes I realise my only towncase this game was on a redcheck)
So VE, Dmb, Palmar left (cuz rayn)
And then TTS who could be anything.
He also uses a lot of emo posts to save OATS
On March 09 2024 03:46 Koshi wrote:
Oats got to say. You did everything right.
If people complain about effort in future games I will post your performance. Solid through entire game and this town has no balls. Yesterday I was proud to be in this town. Today I am ashamed.
This is also TMI, like how can you be so sure DP is town? LOL
On March 09 2024 07:33 Koshi wrote:
Worst math I have seen in a while.
If they have a framer, the chance they picked Oats is the only thing you need to calculate. Add the chance of a miller in there and you know the odds.
The chance they picked Oats is high because our cop decided to bold his fucking name in his reads post after claiming cop.
Chance of Slam not being town and cop is low.
Our blues and DP are so fucking bad that mafia has 1 rb and 3 blues to pick from.
So I guess 2 die tonight. And no tears will be shred.
Then we have these weird sequence
On March 09 2024 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Copcake mafia would explain the rayn kill I guess.
But when I questioned Rayn´s death
On March 09 2024 02:19 Koshi wrote:On March 09 2024 02:08 CopCake wrote:On March 09 2024 02:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote:
So in conclusion
oats is either mafia or miller. I would go mafia for Rayn’s death.
So
##vote: Oats
Hi cake, what is this?
Oh my bad, I forgot.
Why is rayns death important?
We also have Koshi calling me mafia many times
On March 09 2024 08:00 Koshi wrote:
Also me being alive.
If cc and Oats are mafia I am basically playing for the mafia team.
Add in that I prevented a blue rayn from being Mayor.
Ohboi
Then
On March 10 2024 18:54 Koshi wrote:
Lynching Copcake is a mistake.
I would prefer ve or anything else that is consistent from marv and rayn filter.
He is also this dead person said this BUT these are also better lynches.
On March 11 2024 04:19 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba spent a decent amount of posts calling me mafia, Oats town and copcake mafia.
If we disregard those, not that much is left except that list I quoted earlier.
So VE+Rels is mafia.
"Only because Sandroba"
On March 11 2024 04:26 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:15 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 11 2024 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. This is the weirdest way to look into this matter. Were there too many townies on VE and are you doing damage control for when VE flips?
I really don't understand what you're reading here or why you think this is weird? I think VE is going to flip scum and I'm providing some of my thoughts as to why I think he will. I've been calling him scum most of the game. You're one of the ones who led the charge to have him lynched instead of oats yesterday.
I dont understand why you are saying there is scum on VE wagon to save oats.
I think the difference between us right now is that I'm scumreading copcake and you are not. But you also are currently scumreading me so essentially you believe the same thing that I do, that there are scum on the VE wagon yesterday.
There's also one scum left who I haven't fully figured out meanwhile you have decided it's me, DMB, and VE. I think you're wrong about DMB as well so yes, I'm definitely look at other VE voters from yesterday. Could be you, iamp, or maybe even Palmar.
VE Rels MZ DMB
All other reads are silly.
But if you really want to go there I guess
Koshi
JAT
CC (only cuz sandroba)
Palmar (only cuz rayn)
Idiotic reads would be:
iamp
Jacob
DP
I forgot other people
Dude... Stop making DEAD PEOPLE THE REASON OF YOUR LYNCHES
On March 11 2024 04:32 Koshi wrote:
marv would also always lynched VE over cc.
Here he says that Darth barely posts if I understood correctly but another posts he says that should be Policy that Darth shoul not post a lot?
On March 11 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 04:37 CopCake wrote:On March 11 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah. Vivax is 1000% town. (Because the rbs are missing)
And then Jealous is pretty town as well. No reason to scumread him.
I think Darth is also pretty much clear, only way is if he was mafia vig that got roleblocked by vivax night one but considering he didnt move his vote from Oats and used the gunsmith a ability with TTS, that is clear town there.
Ohyeah. Him. Forgot he was in the game. He rarely posts.
Stop having dead people do your reads wtf, COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS
On March 11 2024 08:44 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 08:42 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 08:40 Koshi wrote:On March 11 2024 08:39 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 08:37 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2024 08:36 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 08:34 Vivax wrote:
[quote]
Doesn‘t that balance it out ?
Or your claim is fake.
I don‘t get your preference for Copcake over VE here.
Traitor is an anti mafia role.
Why do you think cake is town so strongly?
She‘s self voting over the obvious CW.
But I have time for better posts after work.
Traitor is an additional member they can gain how is it anti-mafia ?
I don’t believe self voting this early points to town.
She was upset. It wasnt fake.
She is town.
If you all get me of this lynch and I am correct that she is mafia I will blow my fucking top.
Only if VE isnt mafia.
Why go against rayn marv and sandroba to get this cc lynch?
I also noticed with his filter he called MZ several times scummy and suddenly trusts him so hard lol
but I am too lazy to go back and quote everything.
He also spends a lot of Time calling Rels mafia and suddenly
On March 11 2024 19:24 Koshi wrote:
Ok so Rels is town and played really good.
He also has stuff like this:
On March 05 2024 06:36 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 04:04 Vivax wrote:
So maybe I just have to accept the fact that if rayn and iamp are actually town like I had in mind earlier, they prefer to annoy the hell out of you instead of actually finding scum and cause a massive unhelpful distraction that makes me reconsider their alignments.
Either way, not helpful.
I still want to kill Trfel. That's where my head is at.
Going to hedge on sandro.
VE/MZ worth looking into more deeply imo.
But Trfel first. I'm not going to repeat the mistake of trying to kill multples.
i am 100% with you. rayn marv tfrel can die.
We shouldn't do tfrel first.
rayn or marv. Let's go big.
Some fun fact by one of our scummy confirmed mafia: I was the first vote of the voting thread and it was Oats, second was Oats voting Slam, lol. Looks like that guy knew were to put his fangs because he was also being very creepy with DMB.
Oats wanted to mayor Koshi
Oats praised Koshi
Ok I am tired so
##Vote: Koshi Pretty townie post, going for Koshi when she had her targets on Palmar/me previously, and that would be the easy thing to push. Most of the logic doesn't make sense of course
EPT
