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On March 13 2024 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:She has a huge filter though, weren't you the one to raise that initially?
Yes. Pretty full of the same points repeated over and over though
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On March 13 2024 11:07 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:02 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:59 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:55 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario CopCake and me both being scum would be an Oscar-worthy performance for both of us I think. I'm simply not the thespian you seem to think I am. Sorry to disappoint. You have my interest, why? As hypocritical as it may be, CopCake's hurt-posting and self-vote felt pretty genuine, I was immobile to lynch her D2, and she didn't switch off of herself either. The only reason she didn't get lynched is because of iamperfect. So your team would have to be two great actors in Me/CC and a painfully obvious hammer on VE from iamperfect. Nothing else would really make sense. Oh I thought it was going to be about some back and forth between you and CC that made it impossible to be partner, a little disappointed :p Really disagree with the martyring part. First, I already found a post from anoter scum game of her where she martyred. Second, you cannot know she wasn't there, ready to ninja vote VE at the last minute if needed I mean, there wasn't that much back-and-forth because after a while she just stopped responding to me in any intelligible manner, but I was lock CopCake the whole time and was who I focused my energy on casing several times D2. Point being, if you think that I can pretend to push CopCake, and CopCake can pretend to be upset with me, and then we both risk her getting lynched, then we would have to be good actors. Really didn't think this would be a controversial take or something that needs explaining but maybe you weren't following closely. Anyway: ##Vote: CopCake
Yeah I didn't see anything greatly anti-partner indicative in my recollection. I might be wrong
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On March 13 2024 11:07 Vivax wrote:
I’m not sure I can take this game seriously at this point. Feels like a con.
Voted MZ.
I promise a full reread on MZ tomorrow. Don't have the will and energy to do it right now, will go to sleep pretty soon
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On March 13 2024 11:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:08 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 11:03 Rels wrote:
##Vote CopCake
Let me atone for my sins She has a huge filter though, weren't you the one to raise that initially? Yes. Pretty full of the same points repeated over and over though Well that was my initial point originally :/ that you refuted
I know. But I thought CopCake early game had a lot more ideas and theories, and that didn't really happen yesterday
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On March 13 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:
Kind of lost
I think the arguments on Koshi, but I still think he's town every time I read a posting spree from him. If he's scum, he really upped his level and motivation
If I had to settle on a team right now, it would be CopCake / Jealous / Probably MZ. I would have to revisit MZ because his D2 looked really fucking townie to me
DMB is town by association from CopCake in that scenario Why does he default to copcake here ? I don’t think he’s mafia and I still don’t buy the progression from this.
Why is he? Me?
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On March 13 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote:
He’s treating her as confscum doesn’t make sense at all
I'm not. CopCake is definitely not conf scum the way I thought VE was yesterday. But yeah, she's my strongest scumread
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On March 13 2024 11:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:27 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote:
He’s treating her as confscum doesn’t make sense at all I'm not. CopCake is definitely not conf scum the way I thought VE was yesterday. But yeah, she's my strongest scumread Let me atone for my sins ? Sounds like confscum coming from you. Why do I think you are lying but town ?
This was just a jab towards me persuading iamperfection to switch yesterday, nothing to read there otherwise
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Anyway, sleep time for me. MZ I really want to understand your mindset on the scumpoints you had on me yesterday
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On March 13 2024 11:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:30 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:29 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 11:27 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote:
He’s treating her as confscum doesn’t make sense at all I'm not. CopCake is definitely not conf scum the way I thought VE was yesterday. But yeah, she's my strongest scumread Let me atone for my sins ? Sounds like confscum coming from you. Why do I think you are lying but town ? This was just a jab towards me persuading iamperfection to switch yesterday, nothing to read there otherwise Or you are exploiting that DP wanted CC lynched so we don’t hit mafia in Mz and jealous ?
If CC is town, I think I can make the case that I'm confirmed town by anyone that knows perfectly how I work as scum IE only me probably lol. But I can probably back it up with screenshots with some past scum chat if it comes to that
VE in the game is always a free mislynch. No way he survives until the end of the game. He can and should be kept alive for as long as possible, it's impossible that he's not lynched at some point. CopCake is far from that. As scum, in the position of yesterday, I would never push for a VE lynch. CC being lynched was a way better scenario
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On March 13 2024 14:02 CopCake wrote:
You are also calling me Mafia but want to push Palmar? Huh…
Btw I am catching up, I only checked if I havent died.
I believed I did because I got a pm but instead I got masoned, what a privilege!!
@Palmar did you receive a PM when you got masoned, or did you just get added to a Discord channel?
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On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc?
I can of course bus if needed, but my preferred strategy is to get my team town cred and control the lynch candidates to have the right number of potential mislynches to win the game. If I do bus, I tend to do it hard
Actually got some proof  I knew I had posted this somewhere, this is from my scum Discord I had with rayn and CopCake (Chezinu Streak Mafia):
please rayn refrain your instincts to bus me :p I know you play scum like this. So actually if you play like this it's also OK I don't want to impose. But I think we have a real shot at becoming the thread deciders if we townread each other and have a good time in thread?
or if you attack me becuse you think I'll be lynched today or tomorrow, please push me hard so you can distance yourself :p but the kind of soft push you did (I don't really like you but Tube is worse etc) I think was pretty partner telling
maybe I'm overestimating the posts I just did :p so I guess it depends on how people reacts when they wake up while I sleep
I think I did a pretty good job!
but I also thought that D1 so ....
lol
anyway, good night!
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On March 14 2024 10:10 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 10:07 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?
Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.
But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.
There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.
If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc? Why doesn‘t he have any influence we have just done a 360 on all of his D1 reads. He doesn‘t play by presence. I’m asking for a meta read from you because you are confirmed town. Does Rels have correct reads and not actively push them? Is that something we could expect from him as town?
I can answer :p the more game the advance, the less you should see this
Having said that, kinda hard this game to actively convince peopel when the majority of the game is asleep when I can start playing
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On March 13 2024 14:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 11:35 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:32 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 11:30 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:29 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2024 11:27 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote:
He’s treating her as confscum doesn’t make sense at all I'm not. CopCake is definitely not conf scum the way I thought VE was yesterday. But yeah, she's my strongest scumread Let me atone for my sins ? Sounds like confscum coming from you. Why do I think you are lying but town ? This was just a jab towards me persuading iamperfection to switch yesterday, nothing to read there otherwise Or you are exploiting that DP wanted CC lynched so we don’t hit mafia in Mz and jealous ? If CC is town, I think I can make the case that I'm confirmed town by anyone that knows perfectly how I work as scum IE only me probably lol. But I can probably back it up with screenshots with some past scum chat if it comes to that VE in the game is always a free mislynch. No way he survives until the end of the game. He can and should be kept alive for as long as possible, it's impossible that he's not lynched at some point. CopCake is far from that. As scum, in the position of yesterday, I would never push for a VE lynch. CC being lynched was a way better scenario Little TMI on her flip methinks? And that second paragraph is just massive WIFOM. Rel’s flip from literally calling CC town yesterday to immediately trying to lynch her today is unbelievable and reinforcing my opinion she is town.
Weird conclusion if you're not pushing for me afterwards. It only makes CopCake town if I'm scum
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I see that my CopCake flipflop is catching some attention from several people. It's mainly the way she called VE clear town D3. Post flip when I had to reajust my world view, I couldn't get that out of my head. Nobody should have thought he was town with his play
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On March 13 2024 15:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I have been hesitant to scumread Palmar bc I had that TR of him early, masoned him but got blown off so I couldn’t make any real determination, and he was drunk posting with me. That said I think Rels looks terrible right now and some of that has been his association and disassociation with his Palmar reads. Palmar has also been scumreading me for most of the game so I’ve been careful trying to not let that cloud my judgement. That said, it’s time to address his scumread of me or lack thereof. This sums up my read of Palmar tonight. Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 06:54 Palmar wrote:
As for other people.
I stand by the sandroba townread, koshi is probably town too. I like Oats a lot more now for actually making sense. I also like JSL and Vivax.
I'd need VE to actually step up some again, same with Trfel. I had some reads on both but they're weak. DMB is also a weak maybe townread.
iamperfection is making sense, but the guy is smart enough to make sense when there is no pressure on him as either alignment.
DP is a little more wildcardy to me this game, I haven't always agreed with his takes.
TTS, JEalous, Hapa just need to be policied out.
I've not read or even noticed Rels at all which is a bad omen.
rayn is weird to me. I'm again getting the feeling that he's just posting a lot and saying very little, also I really, really don't like that he's not pressuring marv at all in the mason QT it seems.
Idk about CopCake, nothjin one way or the other.
MZ looks kinda bad, but it's very weak as I haven't really read him. MZ bad but haven’t read him Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. I’m in his mafia category Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 07:11 Palmar wrote:
Essentially it comes down to:
I really need to filter dive CopCake, DMB, MZ, Rels and JSL because there's like 3 mafia in there.
One is probably either Oats or Slam, unless we're just the unluckiest town in the world.
Also if Slam and Vivax are genuinely town and both claimed on day 1, we deserve to lose.
There's gonna be a hidden mafia there somewhere. MZ in the Mafia but have to filter dive category Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 07:30 Palmar wrote:
MZ doesn't look great in our topic.
But to be fair, neither do I cause I don't talk to him. More MZ not great MZ again Show nested quote +On March 10 2024 20:56 Palmar wrote:
I actually think we should be lynching MZ as an alternative Lynch MZ Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 19:22 Palmar wrote:On March 11 2024 18:33 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yeah like okay this is the world Cop DMB DP and I and VIvax are all town.
Lets even say VE is scum.
Who's the last two? Lol this doesn't matter for now. To put the game in perspective, we're basically in a normal 13 player game of town vs mafia. 10 town, 3 mafia. But we have two VERY likely "blue checks" (you and DP). We also have like 200 pages of bullshit that can be parsed. We're in a great position. We can mislynch 3 times and still be in the game. The current state of the game demands simple playing. We're not in lylo, we're not even close to lylo. We should not be tinfoiling for hidden mafia. We need to be killing the people who have stereotypical scum characteristics, and first and foremost amongst them is VE. He is not interested in the game, isn't helping to solve it, seems to not be enjoying playing etc. Consider it a pseudo policy lynch, which is almost always a good idea in day 1 on a normal game. I can't stress enough how important it's to just keep a happy disposition. We're in a stronger than expected position. There is no need to panic, just calmly keep analyzing the game. The one weakness of the game is that very little information can be gained from the last 2 days because they have been semi-default lynches. Which is another reason why resolving VE is great for the state of the game. I'll happily reconsider if VE starts looking supertown. Also to answer your question... MZ and JAT? MZ with a big old question mark Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 00:54 Palmar wrote:
By the way I think CC should not be lynched and have a slight townread. I understand the waffling and self-doubt and giving up can be faked, but it still is more likely to come from town than scum.
I also think dmb sounds a lot more reasonable this game than last game.
For one reason or another, I'm not really considering the following people right now:
dp
jls
koshi
cc
dmb
vivax
Then there's like two people I just need to actually get off my ass and read
jealous
iamp
rels
and then there's the people I actively think could be mafia
jat
mz
ve
Remember, to me I'm really thinking about the game as a "day 1" situation where we have plenty of time and mislynches left. I am not really questioning weaker townreads and tinfoil theories at the moment, there is no need to. Oh boy guess who’s scum again Show nested quote +On March 12 2024 23:39 Palmar wrote:
Still don't like MZ, but again, it's just preliminary filtering, not a full read. I have been Palmar’s main scumread most of the game and he has done literally nothing about it. Every single time he calls me scum, he caveats his read so that while I’m his number one choice, he’s always got a reason why he’s not sure, maybe he just puts a question mark there or maybe it’s because he hasn’t read my filter, or maybe he needs to reread me. We're all busy but it's D3 and he's still using these excuses. He’s used every reason possible to not actually stand behind his scumread of me, push his scumread of me, or do anything but sheep along with whatever wagon that’s been convenient for the last 2 days. He is not actually serious about this read. It gets lost in the churn of the thread since he hasn’t been very active but it’s painfully clear when you read his filter. I think he keeps expecting to come back to the thread and for there to be a wagon on me that he can hop on and push but then have plausible deniability because he won't have been the primary push for me despite shading me the entire game. I think Palmar is scum with Rels, tbd who their teammate is at the moment. I have a part 2 of this analysis which is going to look at the connections between those two but that’s gonna have to wait bc its way past my bedtime and I have work tomorrow.
Not on bad post on Palmar TBH
Kinda townie from MZ too, thinking about the game as a whole and thinking about Palmar and I being partner. If Palmar is town, that means that this analysis is thrown out the window as soon as one of us flips
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On March 13 2024 16:26 CopCake wrote:
Ok I waited for more posts but nothing happen and your least favorite pavlova needs to be out.
If you have questions go ahead.
is that a Bluey reference?
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On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2024 00:37 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk? How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M... If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town. There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment) As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane) This posts strikes me as really townie. Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective.
How does that fit with this at deadline:
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
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On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2024 00:37 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk? How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M... If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town. There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment) [...] This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane)
On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat
?????
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On March 14 2024 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 10:36 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 16:26 CopCake wrote:
Ok I waited for more posts but nothing happen and your least favorite pavlova needs to be out.
If you have questions go ahead.
is that a Bluey reference? I feel bad for cake cause she added it from me mentioning bluey last game we played together. But that was just a crumb I have never watched bluey before . Even though it’s Australian.
Lol yeah it's becoming a national pride right?
It's my kid favorite show. And TBH the only show she watches that's also enjoyable for me
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On March 14 2024 10:47 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2024 10:41 Rels wrote:On March 13 2024 17:13 DarthPunk wrote:On March 13 2024 01:00 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2024 00:37 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 13 2024 00:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have to fly tonight, I apologize for my activity but flying takes huge chunks out of my schedule. I will try and be around on my phone this morning and get started on a reread of Palmar. Anything is on the table rn with the VE flip and my current lack of conviction on cake.
The suspicion on Palmar also reminds me, we never heard from a Mason the whole of D3 so I'm guessing scum got it and just didn't want to talk? How would knowing who had the mason chat helping us do find scum? It is random could be T chat with M or T with T or M with M... If you're town and you get whispered there's absolutely zero reason not to share with the town what happens in it. More information is always helpful. If you're a townie and you are the whisperer you should also share who you whispered and also why you did it. I whispered Palmar to try and solidify my reads of him. That didn't work out as planned but I still tried to share whatever info I got with the town. There is no reason not to share with the town and hiding information only serves to make both people look bad. yeah i think it could also be the opposite from helpful. I never got the mason chat (and I am happy about that either aligment) As an example: DMB Town and DP Mafia getting the mason I already said in this game he could be scum (before he shot) and the discussion didn't go so well for me. I got more scumreads from Town than I had before. DP is strong player and can easy manipulate the people. We can not see the chat until the game is over. So nobody knows what there really was. Dp could easy lie that I scum slipped in the mason chat with him and make Town lynch me, because I can not prove that he lies and he has more controll of the thread as I do. I get lynched. I flip Town. DP finds still a reason to tell that I wrote so scummy that there was no other option as a lynch.... 1 Win for mafia This is just an example why I think mason claiming in the thread is stupid and I don´t think Dp is scum (would be to insane) This posts strikes me as really townie. Just the natural paranoia and thought that went into it that only really works from a town perspective. How does that fit with this at deadline: On March 13 2024 12:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Who will make an erotic summary of the last day? That was the reason why I opened Tl in the morning, full of anticipation!
Btw i am in a mason chat yeah i complaind about the mason stuff and of course I get it on the next day
Why did you claim it?
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