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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:30 GMT
#1881
On December 15 2023 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
the fact this sandro lynch is so fucking difficult is telling me this is the right lynch

Who is making it difficult? Who is the mafia defending me?

The fact is I've never have fought against my lynch like this as mafia. Did I come back to the game and then turn into a super good liar and high effort mafia player or just a worse town player?

sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:31 GMT
#1882
On December 15 2023 00:27 marvellosity wrote:
I actually think Chez is probably mafia and what’s happening here is that mafia are angling to sacrifice Chez and discredit the “town leaders” by flipping him

How likely do you think Chez is mafia and how likely do you think I'm mafia?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 15:31 GMT
#1883
On December 15 2023 00:30 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
the fact this sandro lynch is so fucking difficult is telling me this is the right lynch

Who is making it difficult? Who is the mafia defending me?

The fact is I've never have fought against my lynch like this as mafia. Did I come back to the game and then turn into a super good liar and high effort mafia player or just a worse town player?


All the votes that aren’t on you is who is making it difficult
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 15:32 GMT
#1884
On December 15 2023 00:31 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:27 marvellosity wrote:
I actually think Chez is probably mafia and what’s happening here is that mafia are angling to sacrifice Chez and discredit the “town leaders” by flipping him

How likely do you think Chez is mafia and how likely do you think I'm mafia?

60/80 maybe
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:33 GMT
#1885
Trfel and Slam. Slam who you have town read the whole game. Trfel, which you called me mafia for thinking he is mafia.

Hmmmmmm, okay dude
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 15:34 GMT
#1886
On December 15 2023 00:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:30 sandroba wrote:
On December 15 2023 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
the fact this sandro lynch is so fucking difficult is telling me this is the right lynch

Who is making it difficult? Who is the mafia defending me?

The fact is I've never have fought against my lynch like this as mafia. Did I come back to the game and then turn into a super good liar and high effort mafia player or just a worse town player?


All the votes that aren’t on you is who is making it difficult

Townies look at this post! This is 100% motivated reasoning.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:36 GMT
#1887
On December 14 2023 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
Like I really think Palmar sounds like town in these last couple of pages, never mind the rest.

Which is why I think he is wrong, not scum, but hotdamn if he isn't the one to fear too!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:36 GMT
#1888
On December 14 2023 23:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 23:45 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2023 23:44 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
If you don’t think I’m right to be nervous, you’re insane.

Point is we both are.

If Sandroba somehow flips green that means both our top 2 scum reads on day 1 were wrong. If we are somehow both town in that situation we almost deserve to lose.

And I can't really complain too much because I will have been wrong twice... just as much as you.

In a game where tomorrow is lylo, this is a very, very scary proposition. Today's lynch may decide the game. Which is why I'm trying to figure out if there is a chance yesterday was TvT.

Exactly!

So that makes you nervous of me. Like im nervous of you.

And, if we’re both town, that’s natural. It shouldn’t be sending warning signs to you because you have exactly the same outlook….


warning signs/nervousness

What I mean by that in general I'm happy to consider you lean town. What I'm unhappy about is that occasionally I fall over a post that I stop and think "hey that looks.... weird?"

But I'm 100% in agreement that for today the only play is to consider each other confirmed town to reduce the work that needs to be done.

In fact, I am going to start handing out incredibly cheap town reads just to make life easier.

And then scummy ass shit this is what I mean
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 15:36 GMT
#1889
On December 15 2023 00:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
Like I really think Palmar sounds like town in these last couple of pages, never mind the rest.

Which is why I think he is wrong, not scum, but hotdamn if he isn't the one to fear too!

Koshi asked you a question.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:37 GMT
#1890
On December 14 2023 23:51 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2023 23:50 sandroba wrote:
Rest of town: Don't let both these clowns decide anything. They are either Mafia or terrible. I want them to look at my filter and freaking justify this retarded lynch. It will be super easy to just say "well shucks we were wrong again guys" if they are not forced to produce bullshit reasons for voting for me.

Just don't get lynched bro

That would make mafia and town's goals identical. I side with Hapa that this is false.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 14 2023 15:39 GMT
#1891
On December 15 2023 00:33 sandroba wrote:
Trfel and Slam. Slam who you have town read the whole game. Trfel, which you called me mafia for thinking he is mafia.

Hmmmmmm, okay dude

Look at the lists I’ve made. Both these players have been in the bottom half always.

Palmar/Koshi is my truth today and they are with me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:40 GMT
#1892
On December 15 2023 00:11 Koshi wrote:
Slam why don't you want to lynch Sandroba?

Because he is fucking town

Blind ass people see Vivax lynch and don't see what is happening here smh
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:41 GMT
#1893
On December 15 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t really know what you’re doing slam tbh

Why are you so sure about Chez?

Chez has done fuck all and has hardly RP

He threw out some purple reference and placed out

He created doubt on sandroba yesterday by not switching REMEMBER HE IS MY FELLOW AMERICAN

we KNEW he was here.

He is masterful as scum

He is scum here
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:43 GMT
#1894
On December 15 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:11 Koshi wrote:
Slam why don't you want to lynch Sandroba?

The fact Koshi posts this at the same time I am posting something similar further cements my townread on him

"Lynch me now lynch me now while scum is lynching townies OH SHIT HOLYFLARE MADE SLAM SEE THE LIGHT SLAM, WHY YOU SUS THAT ONE, EH? SHIT IS SERIOUS NOW SLAM"

Marv I feel like Joe Biden

Come on, man
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:44 GMT
#1895
On December 15 2023 00:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 10:44 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 13 2023 10:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Slam reads please.

And sandro.

You should both be here.

Ok

Town (not ordered)
DP
Rayn
Marv
Dmb

Town lean
Holyflare

Mafia
Trfel
Sandroba
???

Rest unknown stance


Show nested quote +
On December 13 2023 10:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 13 2023 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 13 2023 10:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 13 2023 07:51 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 13 2023 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
Finding it hard to envisage 3 mafia outside of sandro though. Unless it’s both Slam and Chez which would just make this game really, really irritating.


FWIW I think chez would be more engaged if slam was on his team.

Does a student so easily motivate his teacher?


You can't drop off so hard from your day one play slam.

Surely you have an opinion on chez.

Likely busy. Possible mafia.

His work schedule is mine on steroids.


So your mafia reads are sandroba, Palmar, Chez and Tfrel?

You deserve 0 cred scum
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:45 GMT
#1896
On December 15 2023 00:14 marvellosity wrote:
If Chez is mafia it doesn’t make it any less likely that sand is, is the thing

Then go lynch him after. Where is that anime girl frustrated by melons gif when I need her?

Where she is at the store and rolls eyes while turning away in disgust
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:46 GMT
#1897
On December 15 2023 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 00:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 14 2023 20:04 Palmar wrote:
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

This is actually correct.

If in lylo with Chez alive, you just hold your breath and lynch him. It's annoying but that's the optimal play as much as it sucks.

Why wait?

Sandroba, or any readable player, gives far more information. Everybody voting chez would be doing it for the same reason.

Lynching sure scum is always better than not certain scum.

So my point with this is that actually, I get it from you. I understand why you would not lynch chez.

Because you can't read even one post from him.

So how could you read 2 whole pages? Maybe even 3 by now!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:47 GMT
#1898
On December 15 2023 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
94 pages of game and our best d2 lynch is Chez?

I just don’t buy it.

Of course not. And you know what

Chez has such a normal percentage of those pages, don't he?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:47 GMT
#1899
On December 15 2023 00:16 Koshi wrote:
@Slam:

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2023 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:27 Chezinu wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 05:07 sandroba wrote:
I understand your point about feigning certainty as a strategy but fail to see how that makes me suspicious still. Are you saying that although my post had good observations and moved the game in a pro-town manner because I didn't do it like you would have done it is suspicious? Not sure I buy that completely from your perspective.
Definitely not something to hinge a whole narrative on and derive reads from. Especially when your own post is full of tentative language and demonstrations of uncertainty regarding palmar's posts.

I think you should start raising suspicions, or at least having reads, in case you're town, but then again i don't know if i need to tell you this.

People suspect you, if you're town, get over it, stop defending and start producing something of substance (because people suspect you as you don't produce anything of substance -- right or wrong)



If you need help sandroba, you can read my posts to learn how to have people not think you post nothing of substance.


+ Show Spoiler +
Lol!!


Noting this post because it's the first one where Chez breaks character and it's rayn talking about Sandroba doing nothing and deflecting.


What do you make of this point HF made? Is it something mafia Chez would do?

HOT DAMN I WOKE UP COSHI UNAWARES
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 14 2023 15:48 GMT
#1900
*Koshi

Dunno where Freudian C came from sorry
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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