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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:00 DarthPunk wrote: Vivax would not have confirmed himself town without the context of impending death. At least not in the same way Good plan from Vivax to start playing after half the thread is sleeping. Very insightful. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Can you explain some more about Slam for me please? I understood your point about the smiley question that gave you a townread early on, but I have concerns. I’m struggling that Slam believes I was assuming Koshi was town in that little drama that went down. Also, and I know this is very self centred, there’s a post Slam made where he said he could not ‘find any reason to scumread sandro’ (I am paraphrasing). Slam always pays attention to what I say, I find it hard to believe he brushes me under the carpet that easily. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:01 Palmar wrote: I'm going to look into how and why people voted the way they did last night as I have time through the day. Marv just left his vote on Sandroba, was happy with the Vivax lynch but didn't actually push his own idea for a lynch very much. I know Sandroba eventually tied but that wasn't really thanks to marv. Standing by leaning null to scum. DP's switch, and the reasoning for me (why is Vivax calling me mafia when he doesn't need to) and the fact that he actively tried to get his lynch done looks pretty good. Standing by lean town. And actually I had really, really good reasons for sandro lynch that are in my filter. And you’re right, I did push it too late. But I was happy with the Vivax lynch right up to near the end, which is when I started pushing my sandro stuff more. It really is as simple as that. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
HF slides a little towards scummy Still think DMB is more likely to be town There is a world where we need to attack Koshi and HF just to get them to do something. Shooting Chez is a good idea if we have a vigilante. He's never going to reveal his alignment through analysis. Checking into the less useful good players (marv, rayn, HF) Another thing, I think this list is important. From most to least influential day 1 town play (disregarding some of the bits I haven't caught up on from last night): Palmar DP Trfel Marv Koshi DMB Rayn Sandroba HF Slam Chezinu Aside from the trolls (bottom 2) I think it's somewhat important to think about how much people actually tried to get shit done on day 1. This is not a "bottom mafia, top town" list, but rather an indicator on how much I think people tried to get their vision of the game done in the game on day 1. Mafia likes to not be the initiating factor in town, but rather just follow along. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:12 marvellosity wrote: I’m really not mafia, Palmar. And you need to understand this if we are going to win or town are going to lose. Can you explain some more about Slam for me please? I understood your point about the smiley question that gave you a townread early on, but I have concerns. I’m struggling that Slam believes I was assuming Koshi was town in that little drama that went down. Also, and I know this is very self centred, there’s a post Slam made where he said he could not ‘find any reason to scumread sandro’ (I am paraphrasing). Slam always pays attention to what I say, I find it hard to believe he brushes me under the carpet that easily. I can't and don't read troll players. My entire (and very much overblown) townread was based on 2 things 1. the smiley question 2. the fact he invited me to be his mason friend (which I don't think he'd do as mafia where he knows I'm town). Shooting slam is a good idea, same with Chez. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
She was really looking forward to playing mafia, and actually I can really believe that she posted that stuff about you being a god but having her own reasons to lynch Vivax. I feel like this is a level of fun she could have as a scum player. But if sandro is mafia I don’t think it makes sense that DMB is mafia. She started hard pushing against the lynch. If sandro is town, that would fit into the DMB having fun as mafia. I just don’t think it’s the likely explanation atm. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:17 Palmar wrote: I can't and don't read troll players. My entire (and very much overblown) townread was based on 2 things 1. the smiley question 2. the fact he invited me to be his mason friend (which I don't think he'd do as mafia where he knows I'm town). Shooting slam is a good idea, same with Chez. Chez only. We can get there on Slam. I think my concerns are valid though | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:19 marvellosity wrote: Chez only. We can get there on Slam. I think my concerns are valid though I think you are both wrong that either of them are unreadable fwiw | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:18 marvellosity wrote: Re: DMB. I have been thinking about her. She was really looking forward to playing mafia, and actually I can really believe that she posted that stuff about you being a god but having her own reasons to lynch Vivax. I feel like this is a level of fun she could have as a scum player. But if sandro is mafia I don’t think it makes sense that DMB is mafia. She started hard pushing against the lynch. If sandro is town, that would fit into the DMB having fun as mafia. I just don’t think it’s the likely explanation atm. I think dmb is very very likely town | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
I am no5t considering her at all until the (extremely unlikely) possibility that sandro is town | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:15 marvellosity wrote: And actually I had really, really good reasons for sandro lynch that are in my filter. And you’re right, I did push it too late. But I was happy with the Vivax lynch right up to near the end, which is when I started pushing my sandro stuff more. It really is as simple as that. There were good reasons to lynch Sandroba. I don't disagree with that. You barely pushed although you did not move. Vivax only started playing after you went to sleep and you did claim to be somewhat happy with the lynch. I don't care honestly. I'm probably gonna think you're mafia all game but I can actually work with that. It's just going to be super annoying for you. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:22 Palmar wrote: There were good reasons to lynch Sandroba. I don't disagree with that. You barely pushed although you did not move. Vivax only started playing after you went to sleep and you did claim to be somewhat happy with the lynch. I don't care honestly. I'm probably gonna think you're mafia all game but I can actually work with that. It's just going to be super annoying for you. Vivax was playing in the couple of hours before I checked out. That’s literally the reason I left my vote on sandro having said earlier I would consolidate - because I had enough doubt at that point | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:19 marvellosity wrote: Chez only. We can get there on Slam. I think my concerns are valid though Problem is we need to threaten Slam with death to get him to do anything of value and even then it's a crapshoot. I don't wanna waste a day interrogating a random troll. We already had Vivax just not do anything of value for 47 hours only to get murdered on the weird deadline. But whatever yeah, shooting Chez is a good choice. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:22 Palmar wrote: There were good reasons to lynch Sandroba. I don't disagree with that. You barely pushed although you did not move. Vivax only started playing after you went to sleep and you did claim to be somewhat happy with the lynch. I don't care honestly. I'm probably gonna think you're mafia all game but I can actually work with that. It's just going to be super annoying for you. Also I have long made my peace that I am way better at reading you than you are me.  | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
rayn also just kinda fucked off, but at least he confirmed me town. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:25 marvellosity wrote: Also I have long made my peace that I am way better at reading you than you are me. Neat, so we agree I'm supertown? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Unfortunately you are one of my top couple of townreads. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:20 DarthPunk wrote: I think you are both wrong that either of them are unreadable fwiw You can get there, but the effort is just not worth it. It's much easier to shoot trolls than to worry about them. Reading comprehensible people is a way better use of my time. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 12 2023 18:25 Palmar wrote: The more I think about it the more I want to kill HF. rayn also just kinda fucked off, but at least he confirmed me town. Yes re - rayn, but I was not upset with any of the posts he actually made. Normally when he is mafia I get upset with what he is pushing. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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