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Vivax
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On December 10 2023 18:34 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah I always do this  . Also sometime people are just scum (like cupcake read in one of the previous games) and trfel is fitting that bill for me.This is the wording and content I expect from mafia often. They often don't have anything to write about so they flee into reminiscence instead. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 12 2023 10:50 Vivax wrote: Trfel sounds to 70% maybe like Iawy from MU btw Keep going with your reads, I am paying attention. | ||
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DarthPunk
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On December 12 2023 10:48 die_meatbaby wrote: not helpfull. You think Palmar is Town? Yes | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 12 2023 10:49 DarthPunk wrote: Chez tell me why I should not try and lynch you right now. okey i love a chez lynch before he starts to meme up the thread and confuse me or creep me out with his strange post, but why is he scumy for you he was not posting much here. How can we read him? I can not soul read him as i do often in here espescially with players I already played. Feeling like gambling to vote on him and even if he flips red I can not see who would be with him. I am still sure he is not human. He is AI player which Grack is puting in the game for his on satisfaction to see us or def. me struggling to not. But I am open for an Chez lynch just not looking so scumy as V | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 12 2023 10:57 die_meatbaby wrote: okey i love a chez lynch before he starts to meme up the thread and confuse me or creep me out with his strange post, but why is he scumy for you he was not posting much here. How can we read him? I can not soul read him as i do often in here espescially with players I already played. Feeling like gambling to vote on him and even if he flips red I can not see who would be with him. I am still sure he is not human. He is AI player which Grack is puting in the game for his on satisfaction to see us or def. me struggling to not. But I am open for an Chez lynch just not looking so scumy as V He usually contributes in his own way, stories, observations, etc. this game has been nothing, he is not engaged in the same way. Usually I like to keep him around cause he is productive enough, last game I even tried to stop him getting lynched day 1. There is no reason to think Chez is town, and usually there is. | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
Just a little thought on the side while I try to churn out something salvageable. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Unless the reason I think that becomes unsubstantiated. | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
On December 11 2023 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Trfel is basically a synonym to wishy-wasy when he is town. He makes very good points and then keeps doubting himself on them over and over again which makes other people questioning him which makes himself questioning himself even more. I don't think there is basically anything "wrong" (or scummy) with his play here. This is a good opinion but also kinda scummy for rayn to have to spell out to marv. It begs for the question, would Trfel not also be wishywashy as mafia? | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
Why DP at the time? He appeared green in Slam's later list post. | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
On December 11 2023 05:11 Holyflare wrote: I don't think you moved the game in a pro-town manner. Good observations are easy for anyone to make. A pro-town manner would have been outright saying those things and seeing how people reacted to that information and then compounding those reads and coming up with more reads. You just put out reads, second guessed yourself and left the options open. What did that achieve? I can only go on what you've posted and base things off common patterns. If you aren't mafia then post your way out of it and get me to not think it anymore, pretty simple. This is HFs post to Sandro, notable that he gives himself an out from his suspicion on his own. Also notable that Sandro didn't include a quote to figure out he was replying to HF in that post. In the room (P.18) this is a conversation happening in parallel over other folks discussing other matters. On December 11 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think you should start raising suspicions, or at least having reads, in case you're town, but then again i don't know if i need to tell you this. People suspect you, if you're town, get over it, stop defending and start producing something of substance (because people suspect you as you don't produce anything of substance -- right or wrong) Rayn also engages. Main difference: HF voices suspicion and doesn't accept the explanation, tells him to post it up. Rayn just tells him the latter. Assuming Sandro is mafia, HF is more likely to be partnered based on this interaction. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
Vivax (9): Palmar, sandroba (2): Holyflare (1): raynpelikoneet marvellosity (0): Palmar (0): Koshi (0): raynpelikoneet (0): Trfel (0): With 9 votes, Vivax is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Tuesday, Dec 12 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
On December 11 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I had my concerns on marv's first post(s) last game, he ended up being mafia, i ended up being night killed before figuring that out.  However his opener here (real opener - the post about Trfel), seems to be just what i think at the time. It might be just a bad coincidence you called out Trfel's post, but idk... i feel the same way about your post then what marv did. If you are town, obviously it is possible marv is mafia. I do not think we're gonna find about that until closer to EoD. I think he is town, and i don't think you accusing helps your case in my eyes as if this is the reasoning. Anyways for now you are not going to convince me of your PoV. What about Vivax and HF? Again reminiscing behaviour. Scum flag. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
I think this is really a result of this forums unhealthy obsession with meta. Not really alignment indicative. Do you still think sandro is scum? | ||
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Vivax
22297 Posts
On December 11 2023 07:01 Trfel wrote: 1 - Okay, I'll leave this post:to stand for itself. If people choose to believe that you don't think sandroba is town and yet you made these posts, then whatever. 2 - So? I don't care. That's not why you are mafia. You can agree with me on something and still be mafia. 3 - We discussed this. Please stop being intentionally obtuse. I don't care if you think I am mafia, but the constant badgering with questions, ignoring the answers, and then misrepresenting me is getting really annoying really quick. Gotta head out for a bit, going to clear my head. Yeesh. Probably one of his towniest posts. I can absolutely picture myself reacting like that, and I did. But I did so with more spite and energy. I think it's impossible for me to go over sandro and not think he's mafia. Meta wise he's also off imo. I have several instances of very poorly fleshed out reads: On December 11 2023 04:34 sandroba wrote: I think this is a towny observation from rayn, no way dp would take such a one-sided approach favoring a partner in the exchange between me and trfel. This is him townreading rayn on pure wifom. He's basing his entire townread on rayn on the same assumption that a DP partnered with him (Sandro) would not side with him. Please. On December 11 2023 05:23 sandroba wrote: marv and holyflare not very impressive atm. Palmar is normal I guess Fake On December 11 2023 05:31 sandroba wrote: Thanks for looking out for the rest of us, I do believe you are town. Believe it or not I wasn't so much defending myself as I was questioning HF. If it wasn't clear I find vivax to be the most likely mafia so far, with marv following just for being wrong and stirring up suspicion the wrong way and a bit iffy on HF but that might be just omgus on my part. He explained from wifom why rayn was town and repeats it here. The tone is damp, stiff. On December 11 2023 12:48 sandroba wrote: Ah, also palmar likely town now From normal to town, ok. What's the difference? On December 11 2023 13:35 sandroba wrote: I don't see anything wrong with Koshi, I like all of his reads What's wrong here? | ||
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Vivax
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Sandro/DMB/rayn Sandro/DP/rayn Trfel/DP/rayn Trfel/DMB/rayn The 'let's go!' vote on Trfel from DP also felt off. If I exclude DMB which is a messy read I'd be somewhere at this I think DP/rayn/sandro DP/rayn/Trfel DP/marv/Rayn In case you were wondering, using past games to fluff up your posts like DP and rayn did lands you in here. The Trfel/Sandro dichotomy is hard and I won't exclude that they could be paired. | ||
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die_meatbaby
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