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On December 12 2023 01:04 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 00:45 Palmar wrote:On December 12 2023 00:44 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:32 Palmar wrote:On December 11 2023 23:52 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle. This post here also shows a mafia mindset, not arguing against the substance of what I'm saying, which is that his first post he did not read the thread and tried to reach a conclusion about my alignment, but instead he followed thread sentiment and quoted I few things from my post to appear to be contributing. In the post above he dismisses it as generic and quibbles about me not finding text pieces, which is classic mafia sentiment for "you are accusing me for the wrong reasons" This btw is a genuinely very scummy post. Not because of it's context but because of the thought process behind it. Sandroba can easily just say "well Palmar looks town so I go murder train on Vivax", but instead he does "independent research" and comes to the same conclusion to justify his vote. It's forced "case". This is a scummy post if Vivax flips mafia and it's also scummy if Vivax flips town. But the good thing is that it locks in Sandroba's vote on Vivax so I don't care for now. Can only lynch one dude today. The main reason I though you looked town is that you were trying to get traction on vivax, who I thought was likely mafia - not that you were super town and because of that vivax should be mafia - that doesn't make any sense, and I wouldn't trust you without being convinced myself even if I though you were town. Sharing my reasoning there helps me clarify and reassess my thoughts, get feedback from the thread which helps my read and getting reads off others and also helps to convice other players of my desired lynch, all pro town things. The way you are trying to set this up and your reasoning is not making any sense, it feels either like pushing mafia agenda or if you had a pre conceived notion that I must be mafia, which I'm trying to get to the bottom of shush the town people are talking. Be a good boy and keep your vote on Vivax. I net you are getting a kick out of this
(This post implies knowledge of Palmars alignment)
What is this game? Palmar's playground? Did he run out of board games ?
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On December 12 2023 01:01 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 00:56 Trfel wrote:On December 12 2023 00:53 Vivax wrote:On December 12 2023 00:39 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player  This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting. On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst. Vivax, what gives? In this dynamic, the wagon initiator is more frequently town in my experience. I banished that thought cause I think Sandro is inifinitely more scummy and Palmar at this point is just a malevolent push. So you're voting for Palmar but you don't even think he is mafia? Fair enough, I suppose. Do we still do baby seals around here? I think he is mafia. I just explained to you why my opinion had a change. That doesn't make anyone mafia. I've read your filter and I've read it again, I'm literally not seeing why you changed your mind to think Palmar is mafia besides the association with sandroba?
I'm not necessarily opposed to other lynches but you're really not giving me much of a reason. You're scumreading sandroba seemingly most of all, marvellosity is on sandroba, much of the game is on sandroba, by playing the game a bit we both know you could prove your (assumed) towniness and not only keep going but get a favorable lynch. Your lack of will to even do that much is deeply incriminating.
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On the other hand it makes it more likely he is town since Sandro just spewed him.
I think I like the old Trfel + Sandro double bus theory better and it fits with Trfel coming in to poke at me with bad reasoning.
For third one of Chez, Dmb, HF or DP should suffice.
There you go, the best list in the game to lynch into. Get on my level noobs.
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Koshi + Rayn shining with absence in a time of dire. Can't blame them in a troll game.
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On December 12 2023 01:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 01:04 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:45 Palmar wrote:On December 12 2023 00:44 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:32 Palmar wrote:On December 11 2023 23:52 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle. This post here also shows a mafia mindset, not arguing against the substance of what I'm saying, which is that his first post he did not read the thread and tried to reach a conclusion about my alignment, but instead he followed thread sentiment and quoted I few things from my post to appear to be contributing. In the post above he dismisses it as generic and quibbles about me not finding text pieces, which is classic mafia sentiment for "you are accusing me for the wrong reasons" This btw is a genuinely very scummy post. Not because of it's context but because of the thought process behind it. Sandroba can easily just say "well Palmar looks town so I go murder train on Vivax", but instead he does "independent research" and comes to the same conclusion to justify his vote. It's forced "case". This is a scummy post if Vivax flips mafia and it's also scummy if Vivax flips town. But the good thing is that it locks in Sandroba's vote on Vivax so I don't care for now. Can only lynch one dude today. The main reason I though you looked town is that you were trying to get traction on vivax, who I thought was likely mafia - not that you were super town and because of that vivax should be mafia - that doesn't make any sense, and I wouldn't trust you without being convinced myself even if I though you were town. Sharing my reasoning there helps me clarify and reassess my thoughts, get feedback from the thread which helps my read and getting reads off others and also helps to convice other players of my desired lynch, all pro town things. The way you are trying to set this up and your reasoning is not making any sense, it feels either like pushing mafia agenda or if you had a pre conceived notion that I must be mafia, which I'm trying to get to the bottom of shush the town people are talking. Be a good boy and keep your vote on Vivax. I net you are getting a kick out of this (This post implies knowledge of Palmars alignment) What is this game? Palmar's playground? Did he run out of board games ?
Palmar is getting a kick of just talking down to me, probably a bigger kick if he is mafia steering the game
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Meh, I'm willing to admit there is a chance Vivax is town. I think there is a much smaller chance marv is ever town here
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On December 12 2023 01:18 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 01:06 Vivax wrote:On December 12 2023 01:04 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:45 Palmar wrote:On December 12 2023 00:44 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:32 Palmar wrote:On December 11 2023 23:52 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle. This post here also shows a mafia mindset, not arguing against the substance of what I'm saying, which is that his first post he did not read the thread and tried to reach a conclusion about my alignment, but instead he followed thread sentiment and quoted I few things from my post to appear to be contributing. In the post above he dismisses it as generic and quibbles about me not finding text pieces, which is classic mafia sentiment for "you are accusing me for the wrong reasons" This btw is a genuinely very scummy post. Not because of it's context but because of the thought process behind it. Sandroba can easily just say "well Palmar looks town so I go murder train on Vivax", but instead he does "independent research" and comes to the same conclusion to justify his vote. It's forced "case". This is a scummy post if Vivax flips mafia and it's also scummy if Vivax flips town. But the good thing is that it locks in Sandroba's vote on Vivax so I don't care for now. Can only lynch one dude today. The main reason I though you looked town is that you were trying to get traction on vivax, who I thought was likely mafia - not that you were super town and because of that vivax should be mafia - that doesn't make any sense, and I wouldn't trust you without being convinced myself even if I though you were town. Sharing my reasoning there helps me clarify and reassess my thoughts, get feedback from the thread which helps my read and getting reads off others and also helps to convice other players of my desired lynch, all pro town things. The way you are trying to set this up and your reasoning is not making any sense, it feels either like pushing mafia agenda or if you had a pre conceived notion that I must be mafia, which I'm trying to get to the bottom of shush the town people are talking. Be a good boy and keep your vote on Vivax. I net you are getting a kick out of this (This post implies knowledge of Palmars alignment) What is this game? Palmar's playground? Did he run out of board games ? Palmar is getting a kick of just talking down to me, probably a bigger kick if he is mafia steering the game
And what of the two is he in your opinion?
It's two different types of kicks you are talking about, you phrased it as just one type. Because it was phrased for mafia Palmar getting me mislynched but you have a townread on him. You're keeping it deliberately ambiguous now because you just gave away that you had the impression of a one-sided kick as if you knew his alignment.
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On December 12 2023 01:08 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 01:01 Vivax wrote:On December 12 2023 00:56 Trfel wrote:On December 12 2023 00:53 Vivax wrote:On December 12 2023 00:39 Trfel wrote:On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting. On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst. Vivax, what gives? In this dynamic, the wagon initiator is more frequently town in my experience. I banished that thought cause I think Sandro is inifinitely more scummy and Palmar at this point is just a malevolent push. So you're voting for Palmar but you don't even think he is mafia? Fair enough, I suppose. Do we still do baby seals around here? I think he is mafia. I just explained to you why my opinion had a change. That doesn't make anyone mafia. I've read your filter and I've read it again, I'm literally not seeing why you changed your mind to think Palmar is mafia besides the association with sandroba? I'm not necessarily opposed to other lynches but you're really not giving me much of a reason. You're scumreading sandroba seemingly most of all, marvellosity is on sandroba, much of the game is on sandroba, by playing the game a bit we both know you could prove your (assumed) towniness and not only keep going but get a favorable lynch. Your lack of will to even do that much is deeply incriminating.
I've changed my mind cause he's doubled down on me being mafia. Initially a wagon formed on me is good, strategically. The double down makes it either a mafia wagon or a troll wagon, and I lynch both. Going with mafia cause he's not so sneakily saving Sandroba while scumreading him.
It's very easy to comprehend.
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I don’t know why, but I’m really enjoying Vivax voting with me. I’m here for it.
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Someone knows I'm unlynchable as town if I make it past D1
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Palmar went back into his hole after a bit of primal chest thumping as to be expected from volcanic greybacks
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Humour me a moment - why was your filter so fucking boring first 24h?
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On December 12 2023 01:51 marvellosity wrote:
Humour me a moment - why was your filter so fucking boring first 24h?
I was mostly stoned playing a bit of dwarf fortress on the sides.
Didn't expect to be on the defensive during D1.
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Work begins in 45 minutes though, so today I've been a bit more active and focused.
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Also, re: sandro.
He asked me to engage, and gave me some bleh nonsense about not liking Trfel’s vote on him, but could not come up with a way he would expect Trfel to vote as a townie.
In his filter though, he does quote a post from Trfel and goes to quite some length to explain how townie a post it is.
I don’t believe he goes from the first post explaining to why Trfel is likely town, to a complete nothing post shovelling suspicion on Trfel.
I would provide the 2 quotes but as usual these days I am not in a laptop so it’s too difficult. But if you’re reading this dear town, please do take a look and see what I mean.
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On December 12 2023 01:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 01:18 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 01:06 Vivax wrote:On December 12 2023 01:04 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:45 Palmar wrote:On December 12 2023 00:44 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:32 Palmar wrote:On December 11 2023 23:52 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle. This post here also shows a mafia mindset, not arguing against the substance of what I'm saying, which is that his first post he did not read the thread and tried to reach a conclusion about my alignment, but instead he followed thread sentiment and quoted I few things from my post to appear to be contributing. In the post above he dismisses it as generic and quibbles about me not finding text pieces, which is classic mafia sentiment for "you are accusing me for the wrong reasons" This btw is a genuinely very scummy post. Not because of it's context but because of the thought process behind it. Sandroba can easily just say "well Palmar looks town so I go murder train on Vivax", but instead he does "independent research" and comes to the same conclusion to justify his vote. It's forced "case". This is a scummy post if Vivax flips mafia and it's also scummy if Vivax flips town. But the good thing is that it locks in Sandroba's vote on Vivax so I don't care for now. Can only lynch one dude today. The main reason I though you looked town is that you were trying to get traction on vivax, who I thought was likely mafia - not that you were super town and because of that vivax should be mafia - that doesn't make any sense, and I wouldn't trust you without being convinced myself even if I though you were town. Sharing my reasoning there helps me clarify and reassess my thoughts, get feedback from the thread which helps my read and getting reads off others and also helps to convice other players of my desired lynch, all pro town things. The way you are trying to set this up and your reasoning is not making any sense, it feels either like pushing mafia agenda or if you had a pre conceived notion that I must be mafia, which I'm trying to get to the bottom of shush the town people are talking. Be a good boy and keep your vote on Vivax. I net you are getting a kick out of this (This post implies knowledge of Palmars alignment) What is this game? Palmar's playground? Did he run out of board games ? Palmar is getting a kick of just talking down to me, probably a bigger kick if he is mafia steering the game And what of the two is he in your opinion? It's two different types of kicks you are talking about, you phrased it as just one type. Because it was phrased for mafia Palmar getting me mislynched but you have a townread on him. You're keeping it deliberately ambiguous now because you just gave away that you had the impression of a one-sided kick as if you knew his alignment.
If you are mafia, I think palmar is prob town. If you are town, I'm neutral - wouldn't put it past palmar to be doing that as mafia the way he is setting things up, but he just as easily could be town and trying to get his suspicions lynched.
Palmar as town would be getting a kick that post regardless of my alignment I believe, moreso if he thinks I'm mafia, as he just enjoys being condescending.
As scum, he just seems to like to randomly antagonize me, like the last time we played in assassination mafia
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On December 12 2023 01:56 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2023 01:22 Vivax wrote:On December 12 2023 01:18 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 01:06 Vivax wrote:On December 12 2023 01:04 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:45 Palmar wrote:On December 12 2023 00:44 sandroba wrote:On December 12 2023 00:32 Palmar wrote:On December 11 2023 23:52 sandroba wrote:On December 11 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle. This post here also shows a mafia mindset, not arguing against the substance of what I'm saying, which is that his first post he did not read the thread and tried to reach a conclusion about my alignment, but instead he followed thread sentiment and quoted I few things from my post to appear to be contributing. In the post above he dismisses it as generic and quibbles about me not finding text pieces, which is classic mafia sentiment for "you are accusing me for the wrong reasons" This btw is a genuinely very scummy post. Not because of it's context but because of the thought process behind it. Sandroba can easily just say "well Palmar looks town so I go murder train on Vivax", but instead he does "independent research" and comes to the same conclusion to justify his vote. It's forced "case". This is a scummy post if Vivax flips mafia and it's also scummy if Vivax flips town. But the good thing is that it locks in Sandroba's vote on Vivax so I don't care for now. Can only lynch one dude today. The main reason I though you looked town is that you were trying to get traction on vivax, who I thought was likely mafia - not that you were super town and because of that vivax should be mafia - that doesn't make any sense, and I wouldn't trust you without being convinced myself even if I though you were town. Sharing my reasoning there helps me clarify and reassess my thoughts, get feedback from the thread which helps my read and getting reads off others and also helps to convice other players of my desired lynch, all pro town things. The way you are trying to set this up and your reasoning is not making any sense, it feels either like pushing mafia agenda or if you had a pre conceived notion that I must be mafia, which I'm trying to get to the bottom of shush the town people are talking. Be a good boy and keep your vote on Vivax. I net you are getting a kick out of this (This post implies knowledge of Palmars alignment) What is this game? Palmar's playground? Did he run out of board games ? Palmar is getting a kick of just talking down to me, probably a bigger kick if he is mafia steering the game And what of the two is he in your opinion? It's two different types of kicks you are talking about, you phrased it as just one type. Because it was phrased for mafia Palmar getting me mislynched but you have a townread on him. You're keeping it deliberately ambiguous now because you just gave away that you had the impression of a one-sided kick as if you knew his alignment. If you are mafia, I think palmar is prob town. If you are town, I'm neutral - wouldn't put it past palmar to be doing that as mafia the way he is setting things up, but he just as easily could be town and trying to get his suspicions lynched.
Palmar as town would be getting a kick that post regardless of my alignment I believe, moreso if he thinks I'm mafia, as he just enjoys being condescending.
As scum, he just seems to like to randomly antagonize me, like the last time we played in assassination mafia
Regardless of sandro’s alignment, this is all definitely true
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Didn’t mean to bold the first paragraph. I meant the rest.
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