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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:04 GMT
#3281
On December 21 2023 00:58 sandroba wrote:
Why can't Trfel be bussing DMB rayn? Why are you so stuck in never considering DMB for mafia, while everyone else is fair game?

Because i don't consider DMB as mafia lol :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:08 GMT
#3282
On December 21 2023 01:02 sandroba wrote:
You are like defending her as newbie town while not even considering what she would do as scum this game. All her game makes a lot more sense as scum than town. The HF being possible scum and 100% confirmed blue point at the same time which I pointed out to her while she was posting here, she had no response to, she vanished from the thread for hours, came back and still not response addressing that.

I don't think her posts come from scum perspective.

Vivax lynch D1, idk how much you care about that, but Vivax is her partner, Vivax is very good at the game. Idk why people lynched Vivax D1, DMB imo would be most willing to do that by the EoD because Vivax is the person who is gonna figure her out and slam her to the ground.

DMB said she considers HF scum if Palmar is scum (i know it was before all the blue shit). I can get behind the idea her mind races to HF -> scum there, i don't really see the contradiction, as only after that HF = scum comment she devoted to "HF blue, lynch me" shit. I understand it's bad, but i don't really think it is scummy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:13 GMT
#3283
Are you still going to play Palmar?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 16:13 GMT
#3284
On December 20 2023 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar do you know where these townreads on you from Trfel/sandroba come from?

No but it doesn't matter.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 16:14 GMT
#3285
On December 21 2023 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you still going to play Palmar?

I will be on at some point tonight.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:14 GMT
#3286
well surprise..
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 20 2023 16:14 GMT
#3287
On the Vivax stuff: Do you think if DMB is mafia she never feels pressure to do that? Vivax is likely on the same place as her fighting for his life, knows she is only and she is not saying anything. If she is mafia don't you think she would admit Vivax feels townie, fearing Vivax would just call her out as scum?
In fact Vivax did right before DMB unvoted her:
On December 12 2023 11:53 Vivax wrote:
Tinfoil world is Palmar/DMB/X


2nd point about HF: If her mind is racing to HFmight be scum, it's an act when she says: "Lynch me instead of HF, he is blue, I thought so since N2". It's scummy to misrepresent your feelings in order to appear townie or clueless
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 20 2023 16:15 GMT
#3288
"knows she is only" in that phrase should be online
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:17 GMT
#3289
On December 21 2023 01:14 sandroba wrote:
On the Vivax stuff: Do you think if DMB is mafia she never feels pressure to do that? Vivax is likely on the same place as her fighting for his life, knows she is only and she is not saying anything. If she is mafia don't you think she would admit Vivax feels townie, fearing Vivax would just call her out as scum?
In fact Vivax did right before DMB unvoted her:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2023 11:53 Vivax wrote:
Tinfoil world is Palmar/DMB/X


2nd point about HF: If her mind is racing to HFmight be scum, it's an act when she says: "Lynch me instead of HF, he is blue, I thought so since N2". It's scummy to misrepresent your feelings in order to appear townie or clueless

We all came out of a game where Vivax figured out DMB was talking to her scumbuddies, and the game was cancelled mid D1. I think she would be extra careful not to do that.

I don't think that's to misrepresent her feelings tbh, that was my point of argument.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:20 GMT
#3290
How does it help that DMB lynches Vivax, over sandroba? After that she has at least 3 irl days to deal with Vivax (unless nk him).
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 20 2023 16:20 GMT
#3291
Well, you are being super biased if you can't even consider it and are dead set on this explanation for it I can't even understand.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:21 GMT
#3292
If i am DMB in that spot and mafia, i always lynch Vivax because i have already "been suspicious of him" the whole day.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:21 GMT
#3293
On December 21 2023 01:20 sandroba wrote:
Well, you are being super biased if you can't even consider it and are dead set on this explanation for it I can't even understand.

I am not super set on this explanation, but i don't really see a good case on why i am supposed to think she is mafia.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 20 2023 16:23 GMT
#3294
On December 21 2023 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does it help that DMB lynches Vivax, over sandroba? After that she has at least 3 irl days to deal with Vivax (unless nk him).

I think you meant the other way around. We can't know for sure, but you are hinging so much of your town read on something that I think could be done as either alignment.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:24 GMT
#3295
On December 21 2023 01:23 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2023 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does it help that DMB lynches Vivax, over sandroba? After that she has at least 3 irl days to deal with Vivax (unless nk him).

I think you meant the other way around. We can't know for sure, but you are hinging so much of your town read on something that I think could be done as either alignment.

i meant if she is mafia.

how does it help? or do you know she is town?
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 20 2023 16:26 GMT
#3296
On December 21 2023 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2023 01:20 sandroba wrote:
Well, you are being super biased if you can't even consider it and are dead set on this explanation for it I can't even understand.

I am not super set on this explanation, but i don't really see a good case on why i am supposed to think she is mafia.

I think Trfel's case spells it out pretty clearly why. The fact that you read the same case as me and don't even go: "Huh, there might be something there" makes absolutely no sense to me. Even if you think Trfel is scum, he would have bussed Chez d2 in that world, why could he not be doing that here
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 20 2023 16:26 GMT
#3297
On December 21 2023 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2023 01:23 sandroba wrote:
On December 21 2023 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does it help that DMB lynches Vivax, over sandroba? After that she has at least 3 irl days to deal with Vivax (unless nk him).

I think you meant the other way around. We can't know for sure, but you are hinging so much of your town read on something that I think could be done as either alignment.

i meant if she is mafia.

how does it help? or do you know she is town?

I pointed out the motivation I think mafia you do it above, read and don't ask again
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:32 GMT
#3298
On December 21 2023 01:26 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2023 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 21 2023 01:20 sandroba wrote:
Well, you are being super biased if you can't even consider it and are dead set on this explanation for it I can't even understand.

I am not super set on this explanation, but i don't really see a good case on why i am supposed to think she is mafia.

I think Trfel's case spells it out pretty clearly why. The fact that you read the same case as me and don't even go: "Huh, there might be something there" makes absolutely no sense to me. Even if you think Trfel is scum, he would have bussed Chez d2 in that world, why could he not be doing that here

I think i already said why i think Trfel's vote could be a bus?

I also think i answered Trfel's case in how it is possible DMB did that all as town. All these points:
Cognitive dissonance 1: Palmar is mafia, but die_meatbaby doesn't take any actions towards lynching Palmar

Cognitive dissonance 2: Suspicious of everyone, not inquisitive/not trying to figure things out

Cognitive dissonance 3: lots of emotional energy, little/no scumhunting energy
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 20 2023 16:34 GMT
#3299
You however did not answer to any of my points on my case on Trfel.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 20 2023 16:36 GMT
#3300
I did address it in a single phrase. There is no team possible that doesn't involve dmb so you can argue your Trfel case after we lynch mafia dmb
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