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marvellosity
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:34 marvellosity wrote: Why are you suspicious of sandro please? I fucking tell you why. Lynch Nr. 1 Most people are on Vivax second most voted train Sandro. Chez voted 1 hour before lynch on Vivax. At this point he should aready know that Vivax will get emtional now and he has good scum player should also know that maybe the vote train will go on sandro, but sadly not anoth town people here at that moment to save Vivax, Second lynch almost everbody on chez at the end of the timer but few hours before there was voting train on chez or on sandro and chez still rather voting on Trfel then on Sandro why should he do that. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:43 marvellosity wrote: Read it, went and read rayn’s filter since the conversation with Palmar, and I’m still struggling with it tbh with you. I’m well aware there’s 2 mafia floating about though, so they have to be somewhere. First we have to just accept that whoever is the mafia here they are doing a good job. Given that assumption, we go from there | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:44 die_meatbaby wrote: I fucking tell you why. Lynch Nr. 1 Most people are on Vivax second most voted train Sandro. Chez voted 1 hour before lynch on Vivax. At this point he should aready know that Vivax will get emtional now and he has good scum player should also know that maybe the vote train will go on sandro, but sadly not anoth town people here at that moment to save Vivax, Second lynch almost everbody on chez at the end of the timer but few hours before there was voting train on chez or on sandro and chez still rather voting on Trfel then on Sandro why should he do that. I’ve gone back and looked at the d2 votes because your comment on chez’s vote made me think. But Chez voted really early on d2, and eventually the Chez lynch was a total runaway. So I don’t think your point makes that much sense as what was Chez gonna do with his vote once they all started piling on him? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
Can you find a single example where sandro has a decent size filter and fights for his life when he is about to be lynched as mafia? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:44 marvellosity wrote: Sand, can you remind me why you like Trfel for town so much now please? 1 - he saved me d2 when thread sentiment was against me. He called out Chez behavior as mafia, pointed out the game they played as scum together. I went ahead and looked at the game and everything checked out. Also Trfel had very few posts as mafia in that game, wasn't engaged at all. The analysis posts he is making make a lot of sense to me, it shows he is thinking about the game. His palmar town read, if he is mafia it must be with palmar? Not sure how voting HF instead of Palmar and sticking with his town read helps him here. HF was on a path of Palmar > DMB > rayn while Palmar's path includes him? Can't wrap my head around why he would not just go along and lynch me d2, he had every excuse as mafia to do so. He had the story set up from his perspective for finding me suspicious. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:51 marvellosity wrote: DMB, as you like a bit of meta and reading old games. Can you find a single example where sandro has a decent size filter and fights for his life when he is about to be lynched as mafia? I think the most telling thing is that I would never try to take myself to end game as mafia while lynching the role blocker Chezinu on my team. Chezinu could single-handedly win a game for mafia | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:51 marvellosity wrote: DMB, as you like a bit of meta and reading old games. Can you find a single example where sandro has a decent size filter and fights for his life when he is about to be lynched as mafia? I will search for that. I will find it. I will destroy him if it is same playstyle as here. Scum pissed me off a bit to much and now I will find this two f****rs immediately | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:53 sandroba wrote: 1 - he saved me d2 when thread sentiment was against me. He called out Chez behavior as mafia, pointed out the game they played as scum together. I went ahead and looked at the game and everything checked out. Also Trfel had very few posts as mafia in that game, wasn't engaged at all. The analysis posts he is making make a lot of sense to me, it shows he is thinking about the game. His palmar town read, if he is mafia it must be with palmar? Not sure how voting HF instead of Palmar and sticking with his town read helps him here. HF was on a path of Palmar > DMB > rayn while Palmar's path includes him? Can't wrap my head around why he would not just go along and lynch me d2, he had every excuse as mafia to do so. He had the story set up from his perspective for finding me suspicious. Given the runaway lynch on Chez, can you not imagine the world where mafia (either Trfel alone or a group decision) make the choice to bus Chez and look good from it? What I’m saying is, if Trfel stuck on you and didn’t vote Chez and everyone else voted the same, he would look like 100% mafia after d2 lynch | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:56 die_meatbaby wrote: I will search for that. I will find it. I will destroy him if it is same playstyle as here. Scum pissed me off a bit to much and now I will find this two f****rs immediately DMB, I get that you’re emotional, but on the assumption that you’re town, take some deep breaths and be rational. It’s crunch time and if you’re flying off the handle that’s not gonna get scum lynched. That’s the only goal. Lecture us after the game for being plebs if that’s what you need to do! | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:58 marvellosity wrote: Given the runaway lynch on Chez, can you not imagine the world where mafia (either Trfel alone or a group decision) make the choice to bus Chez and look good from it? What I’m saying is, if Trfel stuck on you and didn’t vote Chez and everyone else voted the same, he would look like 100% mafia after d2 lynch When Trfel started advocating the Chez lynch and called me town there was no runaway wagon on Chez. Are you saying like Trfel and Slam or Trfel alone randomly decided not to lynch me and go after Chezinu just for cred? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 18 2023 23:58 marvellosity wrote: Given the runaway lynch on Chez, can you not imagine the world where mafia (either Trfel alone or a group decision) make the choice to bus Chez and look good from it? What I’m saying is, if Trfel stuck on you and didn’t vote Chez and everyone else voted the same, he would look like 100% mafia after d2 lynch That would make sense if he had that change of heart after the day progressed, but I'm pretty sure he was one the first to actually call me town and tell people to go on Chez. At the point which he did I was advocating for his lynch, not Chez's | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 19 2023 00:01 sandroba wrote: When Trfel started advocating the Chez lynch and called me town there was no runaway wagon on Chez. Are you saying like Trfel and Slam or Trfel alone randomly decided not to lynch me and go after Chezinu just for cred? Yes (at least I think it is not an unreasonable line of thought!) Mafia in that spot (even before all the votes pile on Chez) have to make a decision on whether supporting your lynch will actually get you lynched. If the answer is “I don’t think sand will end up getting lynched” the correct play is to go after Chez for cred | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On December 19 2023 00:03 sandroba wrote: That would make sense if he had that change of heart after the day progressed, but I'm pretty sure he was one the first to actually call me town and tell people to go on Chez. At the point which he did I was advocating for his lynch, not Chez's The thing is I remember well the point you called him town and why. Pocketed you for the rest of the game, potentially, from that one play. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 19 2023 00:03 marvellosity wrote: Yes (at least I think it is not an unreasonable line of thought!) Mafia in that spot (even before all the votes pile on Chez) have to make a decision on whether supporting your lynch will actually get you lynched. If the answer is “I don’t think sand will end up getting lynched” the correct play is to go after Chez for cred It doesn't make sense to me when this happened. Lets assume Palmar is town in this scenario. We had you palmar HF, tunneling me. Slam and rayn had not really taken a position. Why would they ever assume I'm not getting lynched? If you read Trfel's posts after he enters the thread on d2 it's all so good. If anything you can criticize is being too calm and level headed. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 19 2023 00:05 marvellosity wrote: The thing is I remember well the point you called him town and why. Pocketed you for the rest of the game, potentially, from that one play. Possibly, but that seems useless since at that point I would probably going to get miss lynched either way and I don't think I held any sway over town. He had no way of knowing I would get into a frenzy and start obsessing over this game and give him the victory by not ever lynching him. At that point that would be an extremely bad play as mafia. You guys just killed HF yesterday under the assumption that mafia made an extremely bad night kill. I don't think these assumptions are high e.v. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On December 19 2023 00:00 marvellosity wrote: DMB, I get that you’re emotional, but on the assumption that you’re town, take some deep breaths and be rational. It’s crunch time and if you’re flying off the handle that’s not gonna get scum lynched. That’s the only goal. Lecture us after the game for being plebs if that’s what you need to do! Jesus snake calmed me down. I am sorry for the mean words and I am sorry for whoever i offendet in my aggresive mood. Mafia is playing well and i guess I was offendet beeing fooled so long and so much from scum. I am calm now. Sorry if somebody feels offendet by my words. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 14 2023 03:21 Trfel wrote: I thought raynpelikoneet was town but I honestly forget why. Now I kinda think he's mafia but I need to reread him (next on the list), it irks me since I think I had a reason to townread him and forgot it though. I always think you're town. This game is no exception. Sometimes you end up being mafia. It's sad but I have no idea how to change this. This post is extremely townie of Trfel. The irks me part, it looks hard to fake that sentiment as mafia | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 19 2023 00:21 die_meatbaby wrote: Jesus snake calmed me down. I am sorry for the mean words and I am sorry for whoever i offendet in my aggresive mood. Mafia is playing well and i guess I was offendet beeing fooled so long and so much from scum. I am calm now. Sorry if somebody feels offendet by my words. Nobody is offended, we are all big boys. We just want you to try to form a cohesive view and try to convince us of it. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 19 2023 00:05 marvellosity wrote: The thing is I remember well the point you called him town and why. Pocketed you for the rest of the game, potentially, from that one play. You also "pocketed" me for the rest of the game by changing your vote to chez when you had every excuse not to. Should I also throw away this notion and assume it was a bad play? | ||
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