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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
December 10 2023 18:18 GMT
#261
On December 11 2023 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 02:57 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 01:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
Hello nice do play again. Didn't post anything and there are already votes. I will catch up in a few hours as soon as my shift is finished

Vivax do you have any thoughts on this?


No.

Koshi kinda scummy though. You maybe too. Just gut atm.

Why


He's still lurking and withholding his innermost thoughts beneath the cheeky facade
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 18:20 GMT
#262
On December 11 2023 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 03:04 Trfel wrote:
The other thing was that Vivax's posts didn't seem to have any order, he pulled quotes from seemingly random points in the thread. I can't follow the thought process that leads him to bring up the things he did, and especially not in that order.

Can you explain this further, which posts are in wrong order?
Looking at it a third time I guess it's less than I thought. Mostly here, where Vivax jumped ahead to get the top quote from marvellosity. Otherwise, his catch-up is in chronological order and reasonably focused (if slightly uninspired imo). This strikes me as odd though, it makes it feel like he's already caught up with the thread while the surrounding posts (here and here suggest that he's posting as he's catching up. Not a huge thing, honestly his lack of thread presence at this point is probably more indicative. The Vivax I remember is a very strong player, and he just hasn't seemed invested so far.

Side note, I feel similarly about DarthPunk though (lack of thread presence), since he dropped his push on me he seems content to not do too much.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2023 18:21 GMT
#263
hi
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
December 10 2023 18:22 GMT
#264
##Unvote
##Vote: Sandroba


To answer your question from before, marv. I played with Palmar before. No, he hasn't met me yet.

DMB is null to me. Rayn doesn't look eager for conclusions, while with Koshi I don't know what's an actual opinion and what not.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 18:23 GMT
#265
On December 11 2023 03:20 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 03:04 Trfel wrote:
The other thing was that Vivax's posts didn't seem to have any order, he pulled quotes from seemingly random points in the thread. I can't follow the thought process that leads him to bring up the things he did, and especially not in that order.

Can you explain this further, which posts are in wrong order?
Looking at it a third time I guess it's less than I thought. Mostly here, where Vivax jumped ahead to get the top quote from marvellosity. Otherwise, his catch-up is in chronological order and reasonably focused (if slightly uninspired imo). This strikes me as odd though, it makes it feel like he's already caught up with the thread while the surrounding posts (here and here suggest that he's posting as he's catching up. Not a huge thing, honestly his lack of thread presence at this point is probably more indicative. The Vivax I remember is a very strong player, and he just hasn't seemed invested so far.

Side note, I feel similarly about DarthPunk though (lack of thread presence), since he dropped his push on me he seems content to not do too much.

Isn't it just like he read marv's post, went back to check what DP said and made a conclusion of "i agree" of the post DP made (bolded part)?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 18:24 GMT
#266
On December 11 2023 03:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn doesn't look eager for conclusions

Ahh you have that thought, well you should keep voting for me for at least next 24 hrs prolly then ^^
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 18:24 GMT
#267
On December 11 2023 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
hi
How are you doing, Holyflare? Curious why you think raynpelikoneet is mafia?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 18:26 GMT
#268
On December 11 2023 03:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
On December 11 2023 02:57 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 01:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
Hello nice do play again. Didn't post anything and there are already votes. I will catch up in a few hours as soon as my shift is finished

Vivax do you have any thoughts on this?


No.

Koshi kinda scummy though. You maybe too. Just gut atm.

Why


He's still lurking and withholding his innermost thoughts beneath the cheeky facade

I agree thoguh, Koshi can die if he keeps doing this.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
December 10 2023 18:26 GMT
#269
On December 11 2023 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 03:22 Vivax wrote:
Rayn doesn't look eager for conclusions

Ahh you have that thought, well you should keep voting for me for at least next 24 hrs prolly then ^^


I didn't say it made you mafia, but it makes you cautious.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
December 10 2023 18:28 GMT
#270
Greetings Holyflour, have you brought us a sand witch to roast?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 18:29 GMT
#271
What exactly do you mean by conclusions in this case Vivax?
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 18:29 GMT
#272
On December 11 2023 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 03:20 Trfel wrote:
On December 11 2023 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 03:04 Trfel wrote:
The other thing was that Vivax's posts didn't seem to have any order, he pulled quotes from seemingly random points in the thread. I can't follow the thought process that leads him to bring up the things he did, and especially not in that order.

Can you explain this further, which posts are in wrong order?
Looking at it a third time I guess it's less than I thought. Mostly here, where Vivax jumped ahead to get the top quote from marvellosity. Otherwise, his catch-up is in chronological order and reasonably focused (if slightly uninspired imo). This strikes me as odd though, it makes it feel like he's already caught up with the thread while the surrounding posts (here and here suggest that he's posting as he's catching up. Not a huge thing, honestly his lack of thread presence at this point is probably more indicative. The Vivax I remember is a very strong player, and he just hasn't seemed invested so far.

Side note, I feel similarly about DarthPunk though (lack of thread presence), since he dropped his push on me he seems content to not do too much.

Isn't it just like he read marv's post, went back to check what DP said and made a conclusion of "i agree" of the post DP made (bolded part)?
Possibly, but the posts before and after are well before marvellosity's post. It just shows that most likely he was reading some more current posts while also catching up. That doesn't necessarily mean he's mafia, just strikes me as odd and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Now that I reread it, I think it's not that helpful, and the point about his lack of involvement is much more meaningful.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2023 18:30 GMT
#273
On December 11 2023 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
hi

Hi

Sup?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 18:31 GMT
#274
On December 11 2023 03:29 Trfel wrote:
Possibly, but the posts before and after are well before marvellosity's post. I

That's actually true.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
December 10 2023 18:31 GMT
#275
On December 11 2023 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly do you mean by conclusions in this case Vivax?


Like finding out that Chezinu works for methlab and might know something about the mafia.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 10 2023 18:31 GMT
#276
Also, when do we policy lynch marvellosity for smiles being suspicious?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 18:33 GMT
#277
On December 11 2023 03:31 Trfel wrote:
Also, when do we policy lynch marvellosity for smiles being suspicious?

You only do that if you're Robik and therefore dumb af.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 10 2023 18:34 GMT
#278
On December 11 2023 03:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly do you mean by conclusions in this case Vivax?


Like finding out that Chezinu works for methlab and might know something about the mafia.

Idk what to say about this so bye for now.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
December 10 2023 18:35 GMT
#279
I didn't know they went to church in North Korea
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 10 2023 18:37 GMT
#280
On December 11 2023 03:24 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
hi
How are you doing, Holyflare? Curious why you think raynpelikoneet is mafia?


Convuluted af reasons really.

I thought Sandroba was quite likely to be mafia and Palmar made this post:

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 10 2023 17:54 Palmar wrote:
Sandroba correctly identified Slam’s best post (smiley thing) and also noticed how excellent it was but somehow convinced himself to not make a good read on it.

Brazilposting in crisis?


Implicating that Palmar was ready to bus sandro because the reasoning here is extremely tenuous imo. I don't believe that palmar thinks the post is good but simultaneously uses it to discredit sandro. Maybe he would but I don't think so. It feels more like thread influence has made palmar take the read and use it as his own stance for slam and then try and double down on the sandro read.

Reading into this and then seeing rayn post some drivel like:
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 10 2023 18:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar pros town here.



kinda made me think that maybe I was doing palmar a disservice and he could come up with something like that and rayn was just TMIing palmar as town because I don't think anything palmar said should be really conclusive for palmar's alignment in the slightest, especially not to this degree that rayn was talking about

he's since given more elaborated reasoning for it like:

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 11 2023 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2023 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
What I’m saying is his posting so far is pretty normal. He doesn’t have to be town of course but it’s well within normal tolerance.

Do you also remember he doesn't play during the weekends and does basically the minimum amount to survive as mafia?

On December 11 2023 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2023 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
On December 11 2023 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 10 2023 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
What I’m saying is his posting so far is pretty normal. He doesn’t have to be town of course but it’s well within normal tolerance.

Do you also remember he doesn't play during the weekends and does basically the minimum amount to survive as mafia?

Is that supposed to change something?

Idk, i would think Palmar would hide under "no play during weekends" esp since most of the players should know that, rather than post basically anything other than "it's weekend bye!" The stuff he said is also okay. It's not that i even think Vivax is mafia, probably opposite tbh, but his read on Palmar is based on wrong premises imo, if Palmar and sandroba would be both mafia, that would definitely not be something Palmar does in my opinion.

Oh i also think DP and sandroba are not both mafia, now that i remember.



Which I guess is somewhat accetable but it's still a really silly reason to base the read on that.




Think I'm more leaning on going on vivax atm though because he's playing way too normal and trfel is right that his post to sandroba is self-fulfilling. Not really sure, not that into the game atm.

Marv looks ok, trfel looks good imo, DP is (?) but leaning on the side of ok. Slam is kinda just chilling so I don't really know what to read into that but I think he's had enough defenders in the thread over really mediocre points that game state might be pointing to him being town too.

Vivax, Koshi, chez, sandro, meatbaby and palmar is a good list of LHF to get through for the time being. Maybe throw in a rayn in there but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Palmar and rayn probably the weakest in being in this list so will see what they get up to while I work throw the others.
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