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Finally I am town for the first time in 3 years! Time to kick some ass and chew bubble gum!
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You sure you not a first class citizen despite the rule changes?
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Ya my posting is considered scummy as fuck
#hatersgonnahate
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For real though Darth I really hope we actually are the same alignment because we always been opposite alignments in the games we played together.
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Ya I think this was like random rambling from Chez? Idk I am very tired. Will be heading to bed. When I wake up will check out everything!
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Just woke up because I was extremely tired last night and had to go to bed early and of course multiple people had scum vibes on me -.-
Slam to answer your question where I went I simply went to bed early.
Rayn I did forget that I even used that opener in another game but there was a small difference in those two openers I did do in that game and that was me calling Holyflare's first post a fail there (for context people Holyflare tried to post first and failed to post first).
Vivax though I am not liking this time around he feels very forced making something out of nothing that is not normal for him but if you trying to wonder how I posted first: Been waiting forever for my role pm and just f5'd until the game started once I got my role pm.
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Also Darth you mention me being easy going as mafia: I am just easy going as a person so it's NAI.
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On June 09 2023 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is there anything else you like or don't like LS, aside from the people you mentioned?
TTT seems likely town given how they played last game. Also I do got you town as well so far. Outside of that though nothing really catches out to me at the moment.
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On June 09 2023 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:21 Chezinu wrote:
Vivax, Slam, DMB
Slam kill TTT this time. Is this the red squad mr. mailman?
I do hope he answers this so we can figure what that post actually means.
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On June 09 2023 21:43 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 18:29 TankTopTiger wrote:On June 09 2023 17:04 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town. I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change. He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so…. No, early game i called him maf  and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story. Err... Just gonna pipe in here. Copcake you switched on and off slam many times during the course of obs QT. You did cite him being relaxed a lot iirc, but your read was not nearly as simple as thinking him scum D1 then green reading him for being relaxed. So both you and DP way oversimplified it. I called Slam mafia before the vivax lynch, I mentioned also his reaction to him being doctor was weird and lack of emotion, very robotic, etc. Later I believed he was town because DP and you looked more scum and there was the thing that I painted the scenario that chezinu was cop and cleared him.
I can actually confirm that from reading that OBS chat.
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On June 09 2023 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.
Do you just mean honest?
@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread? I fucking like this guy!
Ya this cements how I was reading him to be honest.
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Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start!
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Darth you should go to sleep like you keep on saying
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On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start! What are you referring to here LS?
The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter.
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On June 09 2023 22:21 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).
All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night. There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT. Last game we were both mafia together. And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly. There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot" Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town.
Holy Guardian Cht3 both you guys were town O.o
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On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start! What are you referring to here LS? The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter. He's asking a question, how can that be true or false?
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.
Do you just mean honest?
@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?
I was referring to this part of the post. He did ask a question there similar style how he was last game hence my comment about my read on him.
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On June 09 2023 22:27 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:21 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 22:16 TankTopTiger wrote:
For me, the main thing is why you have a town read on Rayn when that contradicts your meta of suspecting him. This meta is demonstrated in obs QT for endurance II, is evidenced by Rayn's report of your usual MO, and is expected based on your match history together of him being scum often (betrayal breeds suspicion not blind trust).
All this other stuff is squabbling compared to that. IMO your answer to this question will likely decide whether you live to see the night. There is this thing that Rayn has rolled mafia A LOT. Last game we were both mafia together. And last game I was town and he mafia, he was very aggressive if I recall correctly. There is also the stupid, "I am the cop, you idiot" Like, idr a game in which both of us have been town. Holy Guardian Cht3 both you guys were town O.o Was that the one chezinu was mafia?
Yep he was mafia.
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Anyways I should of said this pre game but will be gone for like 30 minutes in 1.5 hours due to taking care of school stuff.
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On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)
But you actually answered slam in #187.
So why did you answer that before?
I do believe #186 goes before #187.
I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.
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This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.-
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On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)
But you actually answered slam in #187.
So why did you answer that before?
I do believe #186 goes before #187. I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam. I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already.
That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.-
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On June 09 2023 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.- Don't worry. We can talk about bubble gum, which flavor is the best?
I like mint gum the best honestly it just feels very refreshing when you chew on mint gum.
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Correction on my advising appointment: It's in 45 minutes thought it was starting now (facepalms). Hopefully we get more people to enter the thread.
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Just got done with my advising appointment: Glad to see Hapa did post something!
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Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance?
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On June 10 2023 02:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was really not expecting to wake up to ~20 pages, what is this 2013?
I have work today so I'll mostly be phone posting but definitely scumreading LS right now (again) and I think DarthPunk came off looking worse in the exchange with CopCake that I just read.
I'm townreading chezinu on a complete shot in the dark that his chatgpt nonsense is a protest against not being able to use his seal.
After attempting to gut read slam last game and being wrong I'm back to forever null on him
TTT probably my strongest town read
DMB has a lot more confidence this game, don't think that's alignment indicative yet but I'll be interested to see how things progress.
Aight I'll be in and out today, I'll have some free time tonight.
I am not surprised you are scumreading me again given that last game I was scum but this time around I am town. In regards to Darth vs CopCake you said Darth looks worse in that exchange does that equate to him being mafia or just him just looking worse?
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On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Had a nice nap after almost being choked to death in my sleep tonight.
On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it. His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake.
I‘d also add that the way rayn followed into DPs footsteps in regards to Cake felt forced and hedgy.
Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on.
With that in mind and them not giving off the same energy as last game where at least rayn seemed like an easy townlean, Cake gets my axe for wagonomical reasons til I get to decide if rayn isn‘t a better lynch for the way he got smacked into submission by DP.
##Vote DarthPunk
Something about Ttts entrance also rubbed me the wrong way as it felt like they were evaluating the dp-cop interaction from the sidelines as an opener that suggested they wanted to play it safe.
Just a note Vivax but he is scumreading me not townreading me.
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On June 10 2023 02:19 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance? I’m just about caught up, but nothing I’ve read is inspiring to me one way or the other beyond a very strong town read on Slam. I also have this overwhelming desire to tunnel marv for nostalgia’s sake, but that’s about it.
Noted.
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By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?
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On June 10 2023 03:15 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 03:09 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 02:36 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 02:35 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 02:19 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance? I’m just about caught up, but nothing I’ve read is inspiring to me one way or the other beyond a very strong town read on Slam. I also have this overwhelming desire to tunnel marv for nostalgia’s sake, but that’s about it. Weak tbh, I had the same urge with you and there‘s a bunch of info around already. You used to be more opinionated. Once upon a time I had a full head of hair and now it is gone. Relatable. Mine goes grey instead. Re: opinions, there are a lot of games that I’ll have strong opinions, but this thread is difficult for me. There is “information” but a lot of it to me is bad. It’s basically DP shitting up the thread by forcing a case on CopCake, because he can’t help himself. But that doesn’t give me a lot to go on. Frankly, I’m more skeptical/suspicious of players that have developed strong opinions more than anything else. MZ’s post looks quite bad to me in that respect. I’d think yours is bad too, but I also think you’re of the same mentality as DP.
Regarding the bolded do you think this is alignment indicative for Darth?
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Also CopCake
On June 10 2023 03:04 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? His push feels forced, I don't understand why he thinks he got a case when I explained the error of the question. I am certified, healthy, copcake.
Ya idk if it's super alignment indicative with his case on you like that to be honest. In addition that entire line of stuff between you two felt off idk why yet.
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On June 10 2023 03:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Man the Euros are trashing Murica with the activity levels.
To be fair it's in the middle of a work day here in the US so activity will be lower at this time of day.
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On June 10 2023 04:17 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 04:12 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 03:15 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 03:09 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 02:36 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 02:35 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 02:19 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance? I’m just about caught up, but nothing I’ve read is inspiring to me one way or the other beyond a very strong town read on Slam. I also have this overwhelming desire to tunnel marv for nostalgia’s sake, but that’s about it. Weak tbh, I had the same urge with you and there‘s a bunch of info around already. You used to be more opinionated. Once upon a time I had a full head of hair and now it is gone. Relatable. Mine goes grey instead. Re: opinions, there are a lot of games that I’ll have strong opinions, but this thread is difficult for me. There is “information” but a lot of it to me is bad. It’s basically DP shitting up the thread by forcing a case on CopCake, because he can’t help himself. But that doesn’t give me a lot to go on. Frankly, I’m more skeptical/suspicious of players that have developed strong opinions more than anything else. MZ’s post looks quite bad to me in that respect. I’d think yours is bad too, but I also think you’re of the same mentality as DP. Regarding the bolded do you think this is alignment indicative for Darth? I don’t think forcing a case is alignment indicative in an early game context. Stuff like him refusing to read Chez’s wall of text and then reading said wall anyway tells me he was just bored early game and doing random shit.
Fair enough.
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On June 10 2023 04:19 Chezinu wrote:
Can someone post some AI drawings of mafia Walruses so we can see what they look like on a line up?
![[image loading]](https://saraletourneau.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/pikachu-no-gif.gif)
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On June 10 2023 05:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:On June 09 2023 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Why do you have a strong opinion of LS alignment slam? Statistics, and difference of opener. Why you got all questions and no reads, m8? I asked all the questions last game iirc it ain't so townie You don't think I have talked about peoples alignment? Even though you quoted my post stating lynching LS at the time was a good call? Don't you think that qualifies as a read at this point in the game? His opener doesn't seem that different to me. Still seems anxious and crafted. Yes it is anxious and crafted. It‘s not from this world or era. It‘s pasta, copy..pasta. Do you think that‘s not revenant, DP ? Do you really think that ?
Ok riddle me this: If I was mafia this game especially how bad I played last game as mafia why would I craft that opening forgetting that I even did that opening before as town? Hint: I actually wasn't anxious and didn't craft that post.
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On June 10 2023 05:39 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu i think youre mafia straight out voting for Vivax, this is no red / blue sickness, this is mafia talking. We must repeat last game results.
But why? He hasn't done exactly anything scummy really so how can he be mafia?
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On June 10 2023 05:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 14:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude I take a shower and that is all you ppl said by then?
Anyway DMB says senseless shit D1 if last game from mafia perspective is anything to go by, but is crackin' the town wisdom whip by D2 so do not dismiss
Chezinu so different, Chezinu so hidden... I get NK fast, you know who it is Why does Chezinu NK you fast ? Just keep a sock in the drawer before you go to bed.
Because Slam knows how to read Chez really well I would guess.
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Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?
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On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? From both of them? No.
It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why.
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On June 10 2023 06:05 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf? If the last, who was the most town?
closer to Mafia vs Town type of deal (Or Wolf vs Town since you know Werewolf better i think?) In that case I have no idea at the moment to be honest.
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On June 10 2023 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? From both of them? No. It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why. .................... the what?
At least how I read that entire conversation between the two of them it felt forced from one side IE one of them is mafia type of deal with how that entire sequence felt.
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On June 10 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think lynching LS is the way here though
You can try but I wont back down this time.
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On June 10 2023 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why did you roll mafia again LS? 
I got a town role pm so I am not mafia!
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On June 10 2023 06:08 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 CopCake wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf? If the last, who was the most town? closer to Mafia vs Town type of deal (Or Wolf vs Town since you know Werewolf better i think?) In that case I have no idea at the moment to be honest. If you think is closer to town vs mafia, isn't it because you think one looks more "innocent" than the other?
Yes but muddled somewhere I will actually try to figure this one out myself since no one else seems to agree with me.
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Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?
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On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose?
1 of them is mafia the other is town. It felt to forced from one side (IE how I caught a mafia player in the past and was correct on who). This is usually what happens when 1 person is town the other is mafia.
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On June 10 2023 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose? 1 of them is mafia the other is town. It felt to forced from one side (IE how I caught a mafia player in the past and was correct on who). This is usually what happens when 1 person is town the other is mafia. why is one person mafia and one town exactly? you said "i did this once and one was mafia and one was town", it doesn't say anything.
Again when something is to forced in conversation like CopCake and Darth it usually an indicator it hard to explain but I am pretty good at knowing it is I wish I was better at explaining how I think >.<
#Autismsucks
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To be clear about the the autism sucks stuff ya I am autistic myself
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On June 10 2023 06:19 CopCake wrote:
LS
what is different with my interactions with rayn or ttt than with darth?
I know you think I look more "town" because I didn't lie but couldn't my interaction with rayn also be "forced"?
Feels more natural again like I told Rayn it's hard to explain and I not good explaining it.
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On June 10 2023 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
meh.. does anyone else think LS is mafia?
Darth does but he's not here.
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On June 10 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? From both of them? No. It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 CopCake wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf? If the last, who was the most town? closer to Mafia vs Town type of deal (Or Wolf vs Town since you know Werewolf better i think?) In that case I have no idea at the moment to be honest. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? From both of them? No. It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why. .................... the what? At least how I read that entire conversation between the two of them it felt forced from one side IE one of them is mafia type of deal with how that entire sequence felt. I dont think iam gonna get around of this any more. "I think one is scum but i cant specify which just one is or for what reasons!!" ##unvote Chezinu
##vote LightningStrikesorry vivax i think this is it.
I did say who I think it is if I had to choose here:
On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?
You did ask why did I had to choose as well here:
On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose?
Which again in my choosing post I did explain why I felt it was Darth over CopCake so it's misrepresenting me.
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I really don't want to get into a shit fight with you Rayn but this is making my blood boil holy fuck............
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On June 10 2023 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? From both of them? No. It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why. On June 10 2023 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 CopCake wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf? If the last, who was the most town? closer to Mafia vs Town type of deal (Or Wolf vs Town since you know Werewolf better i think?) In that case I have no idea at the moment to be honest. On June 10 2023 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? From both of them? No. It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why. .................... the what? At least how I read that entire conversation between the two of them it felt forced from one side IE one of them is mafia type of deal with how that entire sequence felt. I dont think iam gonna get around of this any more. "I think one is scum but i cant specify which just one is or for what reasons!!" ##unvote Chezinu
##vote LightningStrikesorry vivax i think this is it. I did say who I think it is if I had to choose here: On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason? You did ask why did I had to choose as well here: On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose? Which again in my choosing post I did explain why I felt it was Darth over CopCake so it's misrepresenting me. First of all you dont have to choose anything you dont want. Second, your "choosing" ends up in a questionmark anyways so...
First off people were going to ask if I had to choose which one would be mafia so I was answering that question before people were going to ask because trust me I already had to deal with it before.
Second, it might be considered a question mark but it mostly due to the fact I think independently they are fine but when they were posting towards each other in that entire time it felt forced from one end.
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On June 10 2023 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which end?
Feels more from Darth than CopCake.
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CopCake I think is town despite what Rayn said about her I think he getting paranoid about her? Dunno if that is the right word.
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fyi guys I wont be around starting in 58 minutes I got a TTRPG session (Session 1 for a new game)
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Anyways TTT since you are around now did you catch up in the thread yet?
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On June 10 2023 09:23 TankTopTiger wrote:
I caught up but haven't processed it really, so I'm going back and reading it again. The thread is moving superfast IMO, much faster than last game. This will be good later when we have hard info to interpret today's events, but for now it's lurchy aggro in every direction.
+ I'm being town-read a lot, and I don't really understand why.
+ DP is different to last game but I want him to explain that.
+ I like the vibe of Haps approach.
+ MZ comes across as similar to last game where he was town.
Fair enough on your catch up.
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On June 10 2023 09:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
I finished work right now... and wow much to read. I was just fast reading and have to read it again more accurately after some sleep, but what I got so far is
Vivax is posting a lot of bullshit nonsense
MZ writes bad as last game
LS seems suspect for me
Rayn seems always suspect for me so I can't make a opinion on him.
TTT Strong Townread
Marv is okey for now
Chez is Chez. I still think he is not human. His account is a first AI try for scum maybe.
And I have to Filter everyone I didn't mention here.
Reason for why you think I am mafia?
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On June 10 2023 09:43 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 09:36 Vivax wrote:
Had to rescue DMB from work. Some communism is long overdue, comrades.
I don‘t think I‘m going through with LS lynch, rayn.
Maybe itll be one of the ol‘ sort by filter length and murder the bottom approaches or I vote DMB for the massive tonal shift. Would be funny You feed the snake alone today. Jerry is in the fridge.
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On June 10 2023 09:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home and read the thread. I hate almost every lightningstrike post I read, only thing keeping me from voting at the moment is how much higher his activity is compared to his scum game. I also need to read some filters, probably starting with LS and DP and compare them to last game.
I'll be around the rest of the evening if folks wanna chat.
Why you hate my posts if I may ask?
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On June 10 2023 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
I‘m blackmailed.
O.o
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On June 10 2023 09:48 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 09:42 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 09:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
I finished work right now... and wow much to read. I was just fast reading and have to read it again more accurately after some sleep, but what I got so far is
Vivax is posting a lot of bullshit nonsense
MZ writes bad as last game
LS seems suspect for me
Rayn seems always suspect for me so I can't make a opinion on him.
TTT Strong Townread
Marv is okey for now
Chez is Chez. I still think he is not human. His account is a first AI try for scum maybe.
And I have to Filter everyone I didn't mention here.
Reason for why you think I am mafia? Sorry I will make the quotes asp. I need some sleep after my 13+ hour shift
Ok once you wake up and got the quotes I can then tell you why I was thinking the way I was.
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On June 10 2023 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 09:47 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 09:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home and read the thread. I hate almost every lightningstrike post I read, only thing keeping me from voting at the moment is how much higher his activity is compared to his scum game. I also need to read some filters, probably starting with LS and DP and compare them to last game.
I'll be around the rest of the evening if folks wanna chat. Why you hate my posts if I may ask? You have a 4 page filter and one read (darth) which you don't even seem to believe in. Don't worry, once this chicken & pasta is done I'll have it nicely explained. Sorry it looks like you rolled scum again :/
Actually I have more than 1 read unless you mean 1 scumread? If that is the case I did say why if one of them (Out of Darth and CopCake) are mafia it's him but they were fine independent of each other.
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On June 10 2023 09:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I can't shake the feeling LS that you know you didn't play well as mafia last game and you're trying to bring more activity this game as a way to improve your scum game.
I need to stop posting and finish cooking, I also recognize I could be tunneling myself and it doesn't help that rayn agreeing with me has reinforced my reads. I'll be objective as possible when I go through your filter.
Yes finish your cooking please! Also to be honest I would of had burn out already if I was mafia this game given what happened last game.
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With that being said I am heading to my TTRPG session will check in the thread once the session is done!
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Session is on a break at the moment:
On June 10 2023 11:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
@LS Why is your vote on Rayn? Have you cased him at any point?
I haven't voted anyone?
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Session is over!
On June 10 2023 11:26 TankTopTiger wrote:
Ah, I'm an idiot who misread the vote. Ignore that line of questioning. Sorry!
Ok
On June 10 2023 12:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:First things first, when I type TL.net into my browser it takes me to marv's filter from last game which is indicative of how many times I read him trying to figure things out lol. Second, I'm a bottle of wine deep for personal reasons so apologies for any misspellings or other grammatical issues. Finally, let's get to LS Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:03 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is there anything else you like or don't like LS, aside from the people you mentioned? TTT seems likely town given how they played last game. Also I do got you town as well so far. Outside of that though nothing really catches out to me at the moment. Ok fine, it's early, not gonna hate you for nothing catching your eye Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:41 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 21:21 Chezinu wrote:
Vivax, Slam, DMB
Slam kill TTT this time. Is this the red squad mr. mailman? I do hope he answers this so we can figure what that post actually means. I'm going to do my best not to sound super sarcastic when I right this but come on, it's chez "I hope he answers so we figure out what it means?" Like what does it mean to you dude? Why highlight this? It's chez who the fuck knows what it means? This post serves no purpose I should pause here and explain how I think, I write these posts knowing what my gut says based on what I've read previously in the thread but I don't go in with a conclusion in mind. If LS brings attention to Chez again and continues this line of inquiry I will stop finding this post suspicious.Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:50 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 21:43 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 18:29 TankTopTiger wrote:On June 09 2023 17:04 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town. I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change. He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so…. No, early game i called him maf and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story. Err... Just gonna pipe in here. Copcake you switched on and off slam many times during the course of obs QT. You did cite him being relaxed a lot iirc, but your read was not nearly as simple as thinking him scum D1 then green reading him for being relaxed. So both you and DP way oversimplified it. I called Slam mafia before the vivax lynch, I mentioned also his reaction to him being doctor was weird and lack of emotion, very robotic, etc. Later I believed he was town because DP and you looked more scum and there was the thing that I painted the scenario that chezinu was cop and cleared him. I can actually confirm that from reading that OBS chat. We were all in the OBS chat, it's literally the same people, we can all confirm that. Another useless post. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 21:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Not saying that TTT is telling truth per say in that post Rayn but it just his attitude how he plays the game is very much how he played last game so at least it's a start! What are you referring to here LS? The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter. "Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think through reading his filter"Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.- useless Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)
But you actually answered slam in #187.
So why did you answer that before?
I do believe #186 goes before #187. I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam. I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already. That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.- useless I hate these two posts. It's funny how he talks about shitting up the thread yet his own posts aren't actually helping to unwind the thread except for +1ing rayn. The next few posts, while ironically similar to stuff I've said regarding my IRL activity, are part of what's feeding into my impression that LS is attempting to generate activity to avoid some of the scumtells he fell victim to last game: + Show Spoiler +On June 10 2023 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Correction on my advising appointment: It's in 45 minutes thought it was starting now (facepalms). Hopefully we get more people to enter the thread. On June 10 2023 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got done with my advising appointment: Glad to see Hapa did post something! Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 02:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was really not expecting to wake up to ~20 pages, what is this 2013?
I have work today so I'll mostly be phone posting but definitely scumreading LS right now (again) and I think DarthPunk came off looking worse in the exchange with CopCake that I just read.
I'm townreading chezinu on a complete shot in the dark that his chatgpt nonsense is a protest against not being able to use his seal.
After attempting to gut read slam last game and being wrong I'm back to forever null on him
TTT probably my strongest town read
DMB has a lot more confidence this game, don't think that's alignment indicative yet but I'll be interested to see how things progress.
Aight I'll be in and out today, I'll have some free time tonight. I am not surprised you are scumreading me again given that last game I was scum but this time around I am town. In regards to Darth vs CopCake you said Darth looks worse in that exchange does that equate to him being mafia or just him just looking worse? IDK LS, what do you think? I personally only say that people are looking bad when they're looking scummy to me. Earlier you said Darth was the same alignment as you, so are you going to defend him? OK so now I've entered the game this AM and we're getting to the posts that really caught my attention when I was catching up this afternoon: Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? What in the actual fuck does this mean? Why do you think it was forced? Do you think both Darth and Copcake are scum? What posts do you felt were forced? What does this serve to do other than fish for suspicions? Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:Also CopCake On June 10 2023 03:04 CopCake wrote:On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? His push feels forced, I don't understand why he thinks he got a case when I explained the error of the question. I am certified, healthy, copcake. Ya idk if it's super alignment indicative with his case on you like that to be honest. In addition that entire line of stuff between you two felt off idk why yet. This post feels like opportunistic scum looking for suspicions to feed on, if it's NAI why bring up this stuff in the first place other than to sow doubt and distrust among the town? I hate when people say that something feels off and then can't elaborate why. Like at least quote a post of one of Cop/Darth and say "I didn't like that." Tone reads are fine, honestly just meta/vibes are fine. But at least put yourself on record and quote a post or two that made you uncomfortable/suspicious. Otherwise this is just trash that clutters the thread. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 05:54 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 05:30 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2023 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:On June 09 2023 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Why do you have a strong opinion of LS alignment slam? Statistics, and difference of opener. Why you got all questions and no reads, m8? I asked all the questions last game iirc it ain't so townie You don't think I have talked about peoples alignment? Even though you quoted my post stating lynching LS at the time was a good call? Don't you think that qualifies as a read at this point in the game? His opener doesn't seem that different to me. Still seems anxious and crafted. Yes it is anxious and crafted. It‘s not from this world or era. It‘s pasta, copy..pasta. Do you think that‘s not revenant, DP ? Do you really think that ? Ok riddle me this: If I was mafia this game especially how bad I played last game as mafia why would I craft that opening forgetting that I even did that opening before as town? Hint: I actually wasn't anxious and didn't craft that post. There's more wine in front of this post than there is wine in my glass, and hint hint, there's a lot of wine in my glass. Tbh this post was the first one where I thought "he knows he didn't play scum well last game, what if he's deliberately trying a more active style this game to avoid attention." Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? Why tf would anyone chime in when you haven't told them what's making you feel that way? The continued unfounded accusations and unsubstantiated suspicions are not working for me. Page 25 is worth a reread for everyone, in particular look at the LS/Cop/Rayn posts. Rayn reads what's being posted and immediately comes to the conclusion that an LS lynch is a good idea. For those who don't want to click the link, I'll summarize. LS gets pushed on his comment about the Darth/Cop interaction Rayn/Cop get LS to say the thinks that there's scum between Cop/Darth. After some more pushing, LS says that: Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason? Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?This was your townread bro, the one you said was the same alignment as you. And after rayn and copcake pushed you about the Cop/Darth being townVmafia you flip and say Darth is now possibly scum? I'm just trying to work through this and here's where I keep coming back to the conclusion that LS is scum. He's got Darth as a townread. He says there's something off with DarthVCop. When pushed he says that it feels like TownVMafia (even though he initially said the interaction felt forced which is usually what people say when they're analyzing a MafiaVMafia interation). Once he says he feels one of them could be scum, he gets pushed on which one and he says it's Darth.... his previous townread. I'll give LS a point, Rayn did ask him to choose and then acted surprised when LS said he was "forced to choose" but at the same time it doesn't really matter because he still chose someone he was townreading previously without any real progression. Here's more status updates: Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 09:03 LightningStrike wrote:
fyi guys I wont be around starting in 58 minutes I got a TTRPG session (Session 1 for a new game) Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 09:58 LightningStrike wrote:
With that being said I am heading to my TTRPG session will check in the thread once the session is done! Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:Session is on a break at the moment: On June 10 2023 11:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
@LS Why is your vote on Rayn? Have you cased him at any point? I haven't voted anyone? I could be tunneled again, it happens. But the random suspicions, flip flopping of reads, and the apologetic town/updates ... it just feels to me that LS rolled scum again and is trying not to get caught so quickly this time. I am open to all questions.
Regarding Chez I been waiting for him to actually answer it to be honest he just dodged it?
Regarding the OBS qt talk: No else confirmed it before I said something.
Regarding my head spin stuff I was just expressing how I felt because that entire thing did legit made my head spin.
Regarding my irl activity stuff: it's NAI I was just stating what is going on with me.
Regarding Darth: Didn't like his stuff with CopCake after that post I made saying I thought he was the same alignment as me. He was misrepresenting CopCake thus why I felt he was making something out of nothing.
You are tunneled on me again for stupid shit that I already explained why I was thinking the way I was -.-
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On June 10 2023 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
welp, posted without really previewing but LS never came back to that question about Chez which just reinforces my impression that he was casting random suspicions rather than scum hunting.
I was scum hunting by asking questions about people trying to come up with my own conclusions? I did come up with my own conclusions and was some of posting them.
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What's in the letter Chezinu is this your answer?
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On June 10 2023 12:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ok LS untunnel me. I read the scum chat from last game. You were extremely active in that chat (and you can use that weather radar picture someone posted to roughly figure out where I live lol). You are a lot more active this game so the biggest "tunnel" argument I think I'm making is suggesting that your increased activity is scummy. Who do you think is scum right now. DP because you felt he misrepresented Copcake? Rayn or myself because we've called you scum? You've got a 4 page filter and I don't know who you think is mafia. Help me get untunneled, give me some reads you're willing to stand behind. This was last game: Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 08:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way. Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal? On May 25 2023 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey just got home from dinner and I see a Vivax train is started -_- Seriously though I don't like it and it formed very fast too like wtf????? I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. I don't know enough about his meta game to say that low activity is alignment indicative but I will say I've hated how all of his reads are either "town" or "null"Also his above post has the exact same vibe as this one: On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest. Who do you want to lynch LS? Since all the wagons are forming "too fast" EBWOP The red stuff is the same vibe I'm getting this game from you LS, even with your increased activity.
More likely Darth than you or Rayn because of his fight with CopCake felt forced like it was scum vs town out of all the people pushing would be mafia is him. CopCake is town I felt like she was trying to push her thoughts. Vivax looks better at least posting more since I last talked about him. TTT is town I feel like he playing very similar to how he was last game. Rayn I think is town but tunneled on me. You I do think you are town but tunneled.
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On June 10 2023 12:44 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 12:29 LightningStrike wrote:
What's in the letter Chezinu is this your answer? A photo: ![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/ssGnX6z/Chezinu-small-shoe-with-Disneys-Daisy-Duck-logo-that-is-hanging-ecfec268-b713-42f0-a5c2-0e45be327a37.png) Look familar?
Vivax was looking for that or were you looking for that?
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God this is going to be full on annoying having multiple people scumreading for bullshit crap but I am waiting for DMB to say why she thought I am scummy.
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With everything being said will go to bed now and when I wake up will catch up!
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Just woke up:
On June 10 2023 14:17 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Vivax
Assume (as I do) that DP is not getting lynched today. Who is your next lynch and why?
@LS
How did you learn to play mafia? Who from?
I was coached by Slam back in 2014 as town (he plays much different than how he coached back then) here on TL in Campus mafia (I was the town cop and got lynched Day 1) LoneMeow and GlowingBear coached me as well.
On June 10 2023 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post:(I have been following the thread on my phone but I am using the 2 hours free time I have now to post in more detail.) Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:48 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 21:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway like I said before the role PMS were posted going to be posting less this game, look forward to some clarity on that super early rayn town read by copcake that forms the lynchpin of basically every post she has made subsequently.
Goodnight. Dude, do you even know how much I post per game? This is nothing lol Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:49 CopCake wrote:
Tell me darth, how much do I post per game to know what is too little or too much? :D These posts make me think the cop cake stuff could just be a comprehension issue. I was clearly talking about myself posting less. It does make me concerned that someone is calling someone out without reading/understanding? their filter cause I had talked about this on the front page as well. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:51 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.
Do you just mean honest?
@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread? I fucking like this guy! Ya this cements how I was reading him to be honest. This post is scummy to me, but I think LS has posted so much more this game than last, MZ states later that this could be a reaction to his failings as scum in the prior game, and that could be true, but do people adjust so fast? can LS adjust that fast? I'm not sure, following the thread I feel better about LS than last game at this point I guess? I think he might just post in a way that is traditionally scummy. the real thing to look for is engagement levels, and they seem to be higher, but I also don't see him analysing things or scum hunting. Is LS able to do those things as town? Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:51 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW I don't care at all for any argument based on post-count, I'd ignore if for now if DP doesn't expand upon it. Find it weird that TTT did not read the post properly either. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:51 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
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But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️
Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? - someone else - Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me. Is this hard to understand? You do t understand clearly. I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol. But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info. So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps? Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions. So my only assumption is that either: 1.) you have not read or understood the thread or 2.) You have read and understood and are not operating in good faith And BTW it has been hours and you have repeatedly ignored the question I have asked about why you think Rayn was town so early in the game, particularly when rayn said in the OBS thread from last game you always think he is scummy. No by the time, you didn't answer my slam question which I needed, so you are just fabricating a scenario here. I invite EVERYONE to read my filter. Yep, either willful ignorance or straight up ignorant (see my big post on the matter) Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 22:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
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Almost 40 min ago you really think that makes me town? What would i do if i was mafia? Trying to get me emotional and angry have i done that before or where do you get that idea? Yes, you have. He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense. getting emotional and angry is different than getting someone else emotional and angry. and i didn't even get e/a. Now i am starting to for this shit. Oh ok I misread never mind wtf? how can you misread "getting someone angry" into "getting angry"? Do you think i was getting angry or are you just sheeping marv's shit? How you ask? Its midnight, I'm phone posting in bed and I was drunk. I wasn't sheeping marvs shit, I was saying, if Marv thought that, it would be reasonable for others to also think this, but yeah just misread it. Lol. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)
But you actually answered slam in #187.
So why did you answer that before?
I do believe #186 goes before #187. I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.- These two posts are absolutely not aligned, first is 'look i am participating I get whats happening' second is "yeah so confusing." Actually LS is sheeping rayn hard Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
that being said the thing between DP and Cake is so convoluted i can't comprehend even when reading their filters... Make it easier to understand if you think one is mafia pls. Then Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.- Like rayn is clearly trying to get somewhere in the mess, LS is just trying to be part of it without actually adding things? Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)
But you actually answered slam in #187.
So why did you answer that before?
I do believe #186 goes before #187. I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam. I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already. That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.- More rayn sheep. Pretty gross. This post by Vivax is WILD!Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Had a nice nap after almost being choked to death in my sleep tonight.
On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it. His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake.
I‘d also add that the way rayn followed into DPs footsteps in regards to Cake felt forced and hedgy.
Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on.
With that in mind and them not giving off the same energy as last game where at least rayn seemed like an easy townlean, Cake gets my axe for wagonomical reasons til I get to decide if rayn isn‘t a better lynch for the way he got smacked into submission by DP.
##Vote DarthPunk
Something about Ttts entrance also rubbed me the wrong way as it felt like they were evaluating the dp-cop interaction from the sidelines as an opener that suggested they wanted to play it safe. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it. This partis just straight up untrue. I never town read LS on face value, I call that post out for feeling crafted, and guess what, Copypasta. It was. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake. What questions? the one I did at the start of the game to get shit going? no idea what this means TBH Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on. I never mentioned her lunch. the thing we both saw was a narrative of suspicions cast at me which relied on a super early town read of rayn that didn;t make sense based on the stated meta of her scum reading rayn. And then she refused to elaborate on this town read. Yeah shit post Vivax TBH. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? Now LS sheeps vivax's take of the cupcake /Dp battle feeling forced. But its cast as his own idea? He knows someone else feels that way, vivax just posted that exact sentiment. Bad, bad, bad. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 04:17 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 04:12 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 03:15 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 03:09 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 02:36 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 02:35 Vivax wrote:On June 10 2023 02:19 Hapahauli wrote:On June 10 2023 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance? I’m just about caught up, but nothing I’ve read is inspiring to me one way or the other beyond a very strong town read on Slam. I also have this overwhelming desire to tunnel marv for nostalgia’s sake, but that’s about it. Weak tbh, I had the same urge with you and there‘s a bunch of info around already. You used to be more opinionated. Once upon a time I had a full head of hair and now it is gone. Relatable. Mine goes grey instead. Re: opinions, there are a lot of games that I’ll have strong opinions, but this thread is difficult for me. There is “information” but a lot of it to me is bad. It’s basically DP shitting up the thread by forcing a case on CopCake, because he can’t help himself. But that doesn’t give me a lot to go on. Frankly, I’m more skeptical/suspicious of players that have developed strong opinions more than anything else. MZ’s post looks quite bad to me in that respect. I’d think yours is bad too, but I also think you’re of the same mentality as DP. Regarding the bolded do you think this is alignment indicative for Darth? I don’t think forcing a case is alignment indicative in an early game context. Stuff like him refusing to read Chez’s wall of text and then reading said wall anyway tells me he was just bored early game and doing random shit. Wrong, its actually pro town (not that the case on CC is particularly forced IMO) I feel fairly comfortable taking heat from people and provoking activity at the cost of some mild defending. I definitely have been the driver of a lot of activity and forcing people to take positions early in day one which is certainly pro town. You're right in regard to me though, I could probably still do this as mafia. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 05:30 Vivax wrote:On June 09 2023 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:On June 09 2023 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Why do you have a strong opinion of LS alignment slam? Statistics, and difference of opener. Why you got all questions and no reads, m8? I asked all the questions last game iirc it ain't so townie You don't think I have talked about peoples alignment? Even though you quoted my post stating lynching LS at the time was a good call? Don't you think that qualifies as a read at this point in the game? His opener doesn't seem that different to me. Still seems anxious and crafted. Yes it is anxious and crafted. It‘s not from this world or era. It‘s pasta, copy..pasta. Do you think that‘s not revenant, DP ? Do you really think that ? Yep, that is why I scum read him for it immediately. lol. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whoever said vivax is mafia is probably mafia.
that's my best read atm Bad. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whoever said vivax is mafia is probably mafia.
that's my best read atm Initially I thought hapa didn't do enough to establish himself as town when he entered the game, particularly if he prides himself as being easy to read (and from memory this was very true when he was town 7 years ago) But the second read through he seems better to me, just feels very relaxed. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 05:41 CopCake wrote:
Explain me the chezinu thing
Is it only because he voted vivax? Chezinu is a good hunter of power roles as mafia, and has a "blue/red sickness" as town, which means people tend to play more cautiously when they are a power role rather than vanilla, and Chezinu recognizes that (and thinks it's mafia because mafia also plays more carefully). Vivax is not blue, never fucking ever in this game, so Chezinu has to be mafia because he i voting for Vivax and Vivax doesn't even look scummy at all. The problem with this is that I don't think he read his role PM. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think lynching LS is the way here though
Agree at this point in my read through. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason? Bad. Exactly. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose? 1 of them is mafia the other is town. It felt to forced from one side (IE how I caught a mafia player in the past and was correct on who). This is usually what happens when 1 person is town the other is mafia. Where the fuck did this come from? Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good. Is this only for activity levels? YOu also thought he was town last game FWIW. And were very wrong. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
meh.. does anyone else think LS is mafia? Darth does but he's not here. And it's only gotten worse as I read through I am afraid. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good. i am going to agree, even if i dont want to. WTF?! Why the backflip. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? From both of them? No. It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why. On June 10 2023 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 CopCake wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf? If the last, who was the most town? closer to Mafia vs Town type of deal (Or Wolf vs Town since you know Werewolf better i think?) In that case I have no idea at the moment to be honest. On June 10 2023 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? From both of them? No. It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why. .................... the what? At least how I read that entire conversation between the two of them it felt forced from one side IE one of them is mafia type of deal with how that entire sequence felt. I dont think iam gonna get around of this any more. "I think one is scum but i cant specify which just one is or for what reasons!!" ##unvote Chezinu
##vote LightningStrikesorry vivax i think this is it. Nevermind. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm idk i think i let Hapa off too easy, it as kinda bad after all what he posted.. Bad does not equal scum. Otherwise Vivax is 1000% mafia in this spot. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 09:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
I finished work right now... and wow much to read. I was just fast reading and have to read it again more accurately after some sleep, but what I got so far is
Vivax is posting a lot of bullshit nonsense
MZ writes bad as last game
LS seems suspect for me
Rayn seems always suspect for me so I can't make a opinion on him.
TTT Strong Townread
Marv is okey for now
Chez is Chez. I still think he is not human. His account is a first AI try for scum maybe.
And I have to Filter everyone I didn't mention here.
I like DMB this game, not that I agree with all her reads, just reminds me of the end of last game a bit, like she is reading and comprehending what is actually happening. Not pretending to. Thats like 75th percentile play at this juncture. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 12:26 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
welp, posted without really previewing but LS never came back to that question about Chez which just reinforces my impression that he was casting random suspicions rather than scum hunting. I was scum hunting by asking questions about people trying to come up with my own conclusions? I did come up with my own conclusions and was some of posting them. Actually you were sheeping strong players. HARD. This is just so not true. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 16:17 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yes you missed something. I'm red on CC since my conversations with Rayn regarding her. If Rayn had responded differently, I would have tunneled her. But Rayn is giving her the benefit of the doubt, which leaves me thinking she's red but I was willing to give her room to breathe.
Specifically, her thinking Rayn is green and basing her perspective of the game on that from moment one is super bad, much worse than all this other nonsense she's embroiled in. This is the big reason to scum read cop cake, she was paranoid as fuck in the obs thread, and it makes no sense for her to say, I was wrong last game and now I think you are town. I also think the way I enter games tends to draw out interest from scum trying to start a wagon on me, it's a great way of getting reads IMO.
1. Regarding how I post: People say I post in a traditional scummy way regardless of my alignment
2. I did legit wasn't getting it at the time and posted it twice even!
3. Regarding Vivax: He didn't say anything about that fight you had with CopCake looking forced. Check his filter at that time.
4. You did in this post I replying to admit you the fight you had with CopCake was forced
5. Regarding sheeping: You do know that I think I was first person to call CopCake town after waht happened last game why would I make such a bold read against the grain vs a much better player in Rayn? I also didn't exactly sheep per say though on that stuff you called me sheeping I was giving my own thoughts.
On June 10 2023 21:23 die_meatbaby wrote:CC is Town for me at the moment:CC is Rayn's fiancée. She is pretty sure that Rayn is Town. You find it suspicious that she sees him as Town when she usually sees him directly as Mafia. To me it looks more like she's just Town. When you are with someone you are sure what they are hiding or not hiding. I totally understand her reaction to your suspicion that she is red. Actually, it's just the emotional bond she has with Rayn. Strong Townread or Strong Mafiaread is just normal reaction of Love. Eyerthing inbetween would be a red flag for her. I feel the same way about Vivax. Either I see directly that he is green or red. In the first game I didn't think that it could be blue. DP looks bad for meThere is no specific post that makes him red for me, its just the way he writes. Feels different to the last game. VivaxI don´t know why but I have a strong townread on him (for now). Maybe because I was the reason he got lychend on D1 in game 1 and I felt bad after that, but still just see him as Town. He posts little bullshit in the thread but seems normal for me. Chez Chez is posting is always hard to understand for me. I don´t know why but always messge hidden in message or he posting english proverbs, that I as a non englisch person don´t know or understand and have to google it. This game he is makeing different trolls. different writing. Feels supect but still its chez ane he is hard do read so grey flag MZIt feels like you are here all the time reading along but staying silent. You have made 10 posts and we already have over 30 pages in the thread. As a mafia I would also stay quiet and restrained. LSShow nested quote +On June 09 2023 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya my posting is considered scummy as fuck
#hatersgonnahate It´s not hate it is what it is. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 11:31 LightningStrike wrote:
For real though Darth I really hope we actually are the same alignment because we always been opposite alignments in the games we played together. Yeah together in the red team Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:54 LightningStrike wrote:Darth you should go to sleep like you keep on saying Nice little hint from you for him that he get too suspicious. Also you really try to push this DP and CC thing.
Ok regarding the haters gonna hate you really think I would post that right coming off a terrible game as mafia so early like that?
If I was mafia with Darth this game especially if you HAD read the mafia discord chat why I would tell him this game to bus me so hard so early given what I told VE in the previous game in that discord chat?
Also that last post I was legit trying to tell Darth regardless of his alignment to sleep given he did say he needed to sleep.
Regarding the Darth and CopCake stuff do you think the people pushing it (like me) are mafia just trying to push it or is it the motivation for pushing it is why you got me as mafia?
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On June 10 2023 17:30 TankTopTiger wrote:
It's the only point in his favour, but IMO it's a big point.
Last game, he posted little and managed to throw his position hard, not just look scummy as predicted by his meta. This game he's posting a lot, so I think we get to be confident in catching him if he stays around.
But LS, this is conditional on you continuing to post a lot, and you need to post your reads that come from you. You keep regurgitating what other people say, or asking questions that are already answered. I need to see you looking.
What questions did I ask that were already answered?
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On June 10 2023 22:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 12:26 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
welp, posted without really previewing but LS never came back to that question about Chez which just reinforces my impression that he was casting random suspicions rather than scum hunting. I was scum hunting by asking questions about people trying to come up with my own conclusions? I did come up with my own conclusions and was some of posting them. Who is mafia LS?
How many times did I answer this question? I said Darth I thought?
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With that in that in mind will put my vote on him
##Vote: DarthPunk
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I am so tired of these scumreads on me I wish Damdred was here to be honest T_T
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Ya we not lynching Marv Day 1 given what he said in Pre-game hopefully once Day 2 comes we can figure out his alignment much better.
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TTT:
On June 10 2023 21:56 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 17:30 TankTopTiger wrote:
It's the only point in his favour, but IMO it's a big point.
Last game, he posted little and managed to throw his position hard, not just look scummy as predicted by his meta. This game he's posting a lot, so I think we get to be confident in catching him if he stays around.
But LS, this is conditional on you continuing to post a lot, and you need to post your reads that come from you. You keep regurgitating what other people say, or asking questions that are already answered. I need to see you looking. What questions did I ask that were already answered?
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On June 10 2023 23:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS
The main one was when you asked everyone if anyone else thought DP vs CC was forced, when someone else had already stated this. The rest is the gist I get, but nothing comes to mind.
I guess the important thing is that your questions need to have some reason for existing or they sound empty.
The reason I was asking that question was primarily to see if anyone else thought the same way I did and try to engage with others about what I thought but no one else really said anything outside of Rayn, and CopCake. Vivax didn't ask about it but granted he did say that entire thing between them rubbed the wrong way which doesn't = forced at least from my understanding.
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On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:19 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:15 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS
The main one was when you asked everyone if anyone else thought DP vs CC was forced, when someone else had already stated this. The rest is the gist I get, but nothing comes to mind.
I guess the important thing is that your questions need to have some reason for existing or they sound empty. The reason I was asking that question was primarily to see if anyone else thought the same way I did and try to engage with others about what I thought but no one else really said anything outside of Rayn, and CopCake. Vivax didn't ask about it but granted he did say that entire thing between them rubbed the wrong way which doesn't = forced at least from my understanding. LS why am I mafia?
Pretty much you also happened to confirm this but I felt your entire thing with CopCake was forced and it looked really bad the fact that I was able to prove some of the stuff towards CopCake really paints you more mafia than town to be honest.
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If this was your clarification Post Darth:
On June 10 2023 15:45 DarthPunk wrote:Regarding copcake drama, in my opinion she has managed to spin this out of control because of one of three reasons: 1.) my posting has been hard to follow and she genuinely is confused 2.) lack of comprehension on her part 3.) willful ignorance or operating in bad faith. I am going to explain this very carefully so that you all understand, because somehow it has gotten confusing even though from my perspective it is not confusing at all. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?
Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
This is the post with which I begin to assert Copcake is not operating in good faith or not reading the thread. Note that it is at this point, AFTER I had provided her with my reasoning for the slam read, that this assertion is made, and IN DIRECT RESPONSE to this particular question. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different? On what? The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game. What do you think? But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? Why? Because on the first page of my filter I had answered this question. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk nothing really looks suspicious so far. You have to answer though. That's kind of the point. What's the point of forcing someone to answer something they can't? You know you did this to me last game right :D Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 14:24 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk nothing really looks suspicious so far. You have to answer though. That's kind of the point. What's the point of forcing someone to answer something they can't? You know you did this to me last game right :D yeah, so? So you know what the point is. I really don't, unless you think i should have a scumread at this point even possibly. So do you? If you don't see the point why did you post exactly that last game? This is the start of the argument. As you can see it is based specifically on a very specific part of her post. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 17:12 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
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The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game. What do you think? But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? - someone else - Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me. Is this hard to understand? You do t understand clearly. I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol. But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info. I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not. Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D Which she acknowledges here, before it became a big deal In the Thread.Here I clearly state again, that at the point that I stated she was operating in bad faith, in the post above, I had already answered every question she had in the thread, Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:44 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
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Are you reading the thread?
Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?
You are not operating in good faith.
I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn
Why do you not know this??
- someone else - Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me. Is this hard to understand? You do t understand clearly. I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol. But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info. So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps? Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions. tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread. Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she won't explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense. The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists. Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,Those two factors are enough at this juncture. ##Vote: Copcake This is like an absolute lie No its not. Unless you have asked me subsequent questions that I am not aware of after the point that I had stated you were operating in bad faith. In fact, I will answer every question you had at that time by quoting a prior post of mine when I return. That is how confident I am that this is not a lie Why was I confident? because she was asking in that post why I was forcing rayn to make reads, and it had already been established in the thread that the reason I had done so was because he had done the same to me in the prior game, a point which she later acknowledged. The fact that she later uses me refusing to answer her question on my slam read, despite it being clear that I had only refused because she was ignoring my own questions really leaves me wondering, is she just not understanding or reading my posts or is she mafia and trying to deliberately twist and obfuscate the facts of the matter? If that does not make it clear what my perspective on this is, then please ask for clarity. Because to me it is perfectly clear that something weird is going on with Copcake.
I think she was more stubborn about you not answering her question she felt like it was a lot more important than your question towards her and that is when you decided to push her in a forceful manner. She did answer it later but still you still continued that fight was pretty scummy.
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On June 10 2023 23:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:If this was your clarification Post Darth: On June 10 2023 15:45 DarthPunk wrote:Regarding copcake drama, in my opinion she has managed to spin this out of control because of one of three reasons: 1.) my posting has been hard to follow and she genuinely is confused 2.) lack of comprehension on her part 3.) willful ignorance or operating in bad faith. I am going to explain this very carefully so that you all understand, because somehow it has gotten confusing even though from my perspective it is not confusing at all. On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?
Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
This is the post with which I begin to assert Copcake is not operating in good faith or not reading the thread. Note that it is at this point, AFTER I had provided her with my reasoning for the slam read, that this assertion is made, and IN DIRECT RESPONSE to this particular question. On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
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On what? The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game. What do you think? But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? Why? Because on the first page of my filter I had answered this question. On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk nothing really looks suspicious so far. You have to answer though. That's kind of the point. What's the point of forcing someone to answer something they can't? You know you did this to me last game right :D On June 09 2023 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 14:24 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:
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You have to answer though. That's kind of the point. What's the point of forcing someone to answer something they can't? You know you did this to me last game right :D yeah, so? So you know what the point is. I really don't, unless you think i should have a scumread at this point even possibly. So do you? If you don't see the point why did you post exactly that last game? This is the start of the argument. As you can see it is based specifically on a very specific part of her post. On June 09 2023 17:12 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
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But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️
Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? - someone else - Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me. Is this hard to understand? You do t understand clearly. I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol. But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info. I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not. Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D Which she acknowledges here, before it became a big deal In the Thread.Here I clearly state again, that at the point that I stated she was operating in bad faith, in the post above, I had already answered every question she had in the thread, On June 09 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:44 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
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You do t understand clearly.
I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.
But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.
So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps? Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions. tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread. Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she won't explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense. The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists. Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,Those two factors are enough at this juncture. ##Vote: Copcake This is like an absolute lie No its not. Unless you have asked me subsequent questions that I am not aware of after the point that I had stated you were operating in bad faith. In fact, I will answer every question you had at that time by quoting a prior post of mine when I return. That is how confident I am that this is not a lie Why was I confident? because she was asking in that post why I was forcing rayn to make reads, and it had already been established in the thread that the reason I had done so was because he had done the same to me in the prior game, a point which she later acknowledged. The fact that she later uses me refusing to answer her question on my slam read, despite it being clear that I had only refused because she was ignoring my own questions really leaves me wondering, is she just not understanding or reading my posts or is she mafia and trying to deliberately twist and obfuscate the facts of the matter? If that does not make it clear what my perspective on this is, then please ask for clarity. Because to me it is perfectly clear that something weird is going on with Copcake. I think she was more stubborn about you not answering her question she felt like it was a lot more important than your question towards her and that is when you decided to push her in a forceful manner. She did answer it later but still you still continued that fight was pretty scummy. Lol did you even read the post? What exactly are you taking about? Do you think it’s scummy for me to continue fights? But you saw me fight with half the people in the thread last game and I was town. You love using meta LS so explain that.
I did read the post I disagreed and I know you fought with half the people in our last game it was the manner you did towards CopCake is what is different this game from last.
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On June 10 2023 23:54 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:53 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:If this was your clarification Post Darth: On June 10 2023 15:45 DarthPunk wrote:Regarding copcake drama, in my opinion she has managed to spin this out of control because of one of three reasons: 1.) my posting has been hard to follow and she genuinely is confused 2.) lack of comprehension on her part 3.) willful ignorance or operating in bad faith. I am going to explain this very carefully so that you all understand, because somehow it has gotten confusing even though from my perspective it is not confusing at all. On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?
Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
This is the post with which I begin to assert Copcake is not operating in good faith or not reading the thread. Note that it is at this point, AFTER I had provided her with my reasoning for the slam read, that this assertion is made, and IN DIRECT RESPONSE to this particular question. On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
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I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.
I think LS and Rayn look bad.
this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.
What do you think? But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽♀️Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point. Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool. I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game. Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? Why? Because on the first page of my filter I had answered this question. On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk nothing really looks suspicious so far. You have to answer though. That's kind of the point. What's the point of forcing someone to answer something they can't? You know you did this to me last game right :D On June 09 2023 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 14:24 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:
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You know you did this to me last game right :D yeah, so? So you know what the point is. I really don't, unless you think i should have a scumread at this point even possibly. So do you? If you don't see the point why did you post exactly that last game? This is the start of the argument. As you can see it is based specifically on a very specific part of her post. On June 09 2023 17:12 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
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But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?
Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.
Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? - someone else - Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me. Is this hard to understand? You do t understand clearly. I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol. But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info. I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not. Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D Which she acknowledges here, before it became a big deal In the Thread.Here I clearly state again, that at the point that I stated she was operating in bad faith, in the post above, I had already answered every question she had in the thread, On June 09 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:44 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
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Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.
tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread. Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she won't explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense. The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists. Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,Those two factors are enough at this juncture. ##Vote: Copcake This is like an absolute lie No its not. Unless you have asked me subsequent questions that I am not aware of after the point that I had stated you were operating in bad faith. In fact, I will answer every question you had at that time by quoting a prior post of mine when I return. That is how confident I am that this is not a lie Why was I confident? because she was asking in that post why I was forcing rayn to make reads, and it had already been established in the thread that the reason I had done so was because he had done the same to me in the prior game, a point which she later acknowledged. The fact that she later uses me refusing to answer her question on my slam read, despite it being clear that I had only refused because she was ignoring my own questions really leaves me wondering, is she just not understanding or reading my posts or is she mafia and trying to deliberately twist and obfuscate the facts of the matter? If that does not make it clear what my perspective on this is, then please ask for clarity. Because to me it is perfectly clear that something weird is going on with Copcake. I think she was more stubborn about you not answering her question she felt like it was a lot more important than your question towards her and that is when you decided to push her in a forceful manner. She did answer it later but still you still continued that fight was pretty scummy. Lol did you even read the post? What exactly are you taking about? Do you think it’s scummy for me to continue fights? But you saw me fight with half the people in the thread last game and I was town. You love using meta LS so explain that. I did read the post I disagreed and I know you fought with half the people in our last game it was the manner you did towards CopCake is what is different this game from last. How can you disagree with facts ls? And what specifically is different can you give some examples?
She tried to answer you but it got turned into a full blown fight for no reason in this game which in last game you do push me but the bigger difference is it had a purpose here I felt you had no purpose for that fight.
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On June 10 2023 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 23:56 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:54 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:53 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:If this was your clarification Post Darth: On June 10 2023 15:45 DarthPunk wrote:Regarding copcake drama, in my opinion she has managed to spin this out of control because of one of three reasons: 1.) my posting has been hard to follow and she genuinely is confused 2.) lack of comprehension on her part 3.) willful ignorance or operating in bad faith. I am going to explain this very carefully so that you all understand, because somehow it has gotten confusing even though from my perspective it is not confusing at all. On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?
Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
This is the post with which I begin to assert Copcake is not operating in good faith or not reading the thread. Note that it is at this point, AFTER I had provided her with my reasoning for the slam read, that this assertion is made, and IN DIRECT RESPONSE to this particular question. On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
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Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.
I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.
Now your turn. But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else? I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty? Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. Are you reading the thread? Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions? You are not operating in good faith. I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn Why do you not know this?? Why? Because on the first page of my filter I had answered this question. On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:
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You have to answer though. That's kind of the point. What's the point of forcing someone to answer something they can't? You know you did this to me last game right :D On June 09 2023 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 09 2023 14:24 DarthPunk wrote:
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So you know what the point is. I really don't, unless you think i should have a scumread at this point even possibly. So do you? If you don't see the point why did you post exactly that last game? This is the start of the argument. As you can see it is based specifically on a very specific part of her post. On June 09 2023 17:12 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
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Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.
Is this hard to understand? You do t understand clearly. I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol. But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info. I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not. Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D Which she acknowledges here, before it became a big deal In the Thread.Here I clearly state again, that at the point that I stated she was operating in bad faith, in the post above, I had already answered every question she had in the thread, On June 09 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 21:44 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
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Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she won't explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense.
The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists.
Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,
Those two factors are enough at this juncture.
##Vote: Copcake This is like an absolute lie No its not. Unless you have asked me subsequent questions that I am not aware of after the point that I had stated you were operating in bad faith. In fact, I will answer every question you had at that time by quoting a prior post of mine when I return. That is how confident I am that this is not a lie Why was I confident? because she was asking in that post why I was forcing rayn to make reads, and it had already been established in the thread that the reason I had done so was because he had done the same to me in the prior game, a point which she later acknowledged. The fact that she later uses me refusing to answer her question on my slam read, despite it being clear that I had only refused because she was ignoring my own questions really leaves me wondering, is she just not understanding or reading my posts or is she mafia and trying to deliberately twist and obfuscate the facts of the matter? If that does not make it clear what my perspective on this is, then please ask for clarity. Because to me it is perfectly clear that something weird is going on with Copcake. I think she was more stubborn about you not answering her question she felt like it was a lot more important than your question towards her and that is when you decided to push her in a forceful manner. She did answer it later but still you still continued that fight was pretty scummy. Lol did you even read the post? What exactly are you taking about? Do you think it’s scummy for me to continue fights? But you saw me fight with half the people in the thread last game and I was town. You love using meta LS so explain that. I did read the post I disagreed and I know you fought with half the people in our last game it was the manner you did towards CopCake is what is different this game from last. How can you disagree with facts ls? And what specifically is different can you give some examples? She tried to answer you but it got turned into a full blown fight for no reason in this game which in last game you do push me but the bigger difference is it had a purpose here I felt you had no purpose for that fight. Do you think it was a fight solely because of me? You think I caused it to become a fight?
I think you caused it to become a fight granted she could of handled a little bit better but you made it become a fight.
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On June 11 2023 00:02 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 00:01 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:56 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:54 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:53 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:If this was your clarification Post Darth: On June 10 2023 15:45 DarthPunk wrote:Regarding copcake drama, in my opinion she has managed to spin this out of control because of one of three reasons: 1.) my posting has been hard to follow and she genuinely is confused 2.) lack of comprehension on her part 3.) willful ignorance or operating in bad faith. I am going to explain this very carefully so that you all understand, because somehow it has gotten confusing even though from my perspective it is not confusing at all. On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?
Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull. On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?
This is the post with which I begin to assert Copcake is not operating in good faith or not reading the thread. Note that it is at this point, AFTER I had provided her with my reasoning for the slam read, that this assertion is made, and IN DIRECT RESPONSE to this particular question. On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
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Are you reading the thread?
Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?
You are not operating in good faith.
I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn
Why do you not know this??
Why? Because on the first page of my filter I had answered this question. On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:
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You know you did this to me last game right :D On June 09 2023 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:
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If you don't see the point why did you post exactly that last game? This is the start of the argument. As you can see it is based specifically on a very specific part of her post. On June 09 2023 17:12 CopCake wrote:
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I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not.
Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D Which she acknowledges here, before it became a big deal In the Thread.Here I clearly state again, that at the point that I stated she was operating in bad faith, in the post above, I had already answered every question she had in the thread, On June 09 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
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No its not. Unless you have asked me subsequent questions that I am not aware of after the point that I had stated you were operating in bad faith.
In fact, I will answer every question you had at that time by quoting a prior post of mine when I return. That is how confident I am that this is not a lie Why was I confident? because she was asking in that post why I was forcing rayn to make reads, and it had already been established in the thread that the reason I had done so was because he had done the same to me in the prior game, a point which she later acknowledged. The fact that she later uses me refusing to answer her question on my slam read, despite it being clear that I had only refused because she was ignoring my own questions really leaves me wondering, is she just not understanding or reading my posts or is she mafia and trying to deliberately twist and obfuscate the facts of the matter? If that does not make it clear what my perspective on this is, then please ask for clarity. Because to me it is perfectly clear that something weird is going on with Copcake. I think she was more stubborn about you not answering her question she felt like it was a lot more important than your question towards her and that is when you decided to push her in a forceful manner. She did answer it later but still you still continued that fight was pretty scummy. Lol did you even read the post? What exactly are you taking about? Do you think it’s scummy for me to continue fights? But you saw me fight with half the people in the thread last game and I was town. You love using meta LS so explain that. I did read the post I disagreed and I know you fought with half the people in our last game it was the manner you did towards CopCake is what is different this game from last. How can you disagree with facts ls? And what specifically is different can you give some examples? She tried to answer you but it got turned into a full blown fight for no reason in this game which in last game you do push me but the bigger difference is it had a purpose here I felt you had no purpose for that fight. Do you think it was a fight solely because of me? You think I caused it to become a fight? I think you caused it to become a fight granted she could of handled a little bit better but you made it become a fight. Which post? Quote it.
On June 09 2023 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different? On what? The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game. What do you think? Why is slam town? Why don't you answer my question, and then I will answer this one. I'm not trying to avoid this btw,> its only fair that this conversation is two ways though right?
This sounded very antagonistic from you that seemed to had caused the fight.
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On June 11 2023 00:10 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 00:06 LightningStrike wrote:On June 11 2023 00:02 DarthPunk wrote:On June 11 2023 00:01 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:56 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:54 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:53 LightningStrike wrote:On June 10 2023 23:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 10 2023 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
If this was your clarification Post Darth:
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I think she was more stubborn about you not answering her question she felt like it was a lot more important than your question towards her and that is when you decided to push her in a forceful manner. She did answer it later but still you still continued that fight was pretty scummy. Lol did you even read the post? What exactly are you taking about? Do you think it’s scummy for me to continue fights? But you saw me fight with half the people in the thread last game and I was town. You love using meta LS so explain that. I did read the post I disagreed and I know you fought with half the people in our last game it was the manner you did towards CopCake is what is different this game from last. How can you disagree with facts ls? And what specifically is different can you give some examples? She tried to answer you but it got turned into a full blown fight for no reason in this game which in last game you do push me but the bigger difference is it had a purpose here I felt you had no purpose for that fight. Do you think it was a fight solely because of me? You think I caused it to become a fight? I think you caused it to become a fight granted she could of handled a little bit better but you made it become a fight. Which post? Quote it. On June 09 2023 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:34 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different? On what? The game in general so far? I think DMB is looking good as is Slam. I think LS and Rayn look bad. this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game. What do you think? Why is slam town? Why don't you answer my question, and then I will answer this one. I'm not trying to avoid this btw,> its only fair that this conversation is two ways though right? This sounded very antagonistic from you that seemed to had caused the fight. Ok LS I can see there is no reasoning with you and you are locked into this scum read. How confident are you out of a scale of 1-100 that I am mafia?
70
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The only reason it's not higher than a 70 is because you do genuinely feel frustrated but idk if it's alignment telling or not but a small gut feeling is telling me that it's town indicative. How do you think I felt when everyone was pushing me this game?
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But regardless of your alignment Darth sleep well man!
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DMB:
On June 10 2023 21:23 die_meatbaby wrote:CC is Town for me at the moment:CC is Rayn's fiancée. She is pretty sure that Rayn is Town. You find it suspicious that she sees him as Town when she usually sees him directly as Mafia. To me it looks more like she's just Town. When you are with someone you are sure what they are hiding or not hiding. I totally understand her reaction to your suspicion that she is red. Actually, it's just the emotional bond she has with Rayn. Strong Townread or Strong Mafiaread is just normal reaction of Love. Eyerthing inbetween would be a red flag for her. I feel the same way about Vivax. Either I see directly that he is green or red. In the first game I didn't think that it could be blue. DP looks bad for meThere is no specific post that makes him red for me, its just the way he writes. Feels different to the last game. VivaxI don´t know why but I have a strong townread on him (for now). Maybe because I was the reason he got lychend on D1 in game 1 and I felt bad after that, but still just see him as Town. He posts little bullshit in the thread but seems normal for me. Chez Chez is posting is always hard to understand for me. I don´t know why but always messge hidden in message or he posting english proverbs, that I as a non englisch person don´t know or understand and have to google it. This game he is makeing different trolls. different writing. Feels supect but still its chez ane he is hard do read so grey flag MZIt feels like you are here all the time reading along but staying silent. You have made 10 posts and we already have over 30 pages in the thread. As a mafia I would also stay quiet and restrained. LSShow nested quote +On June 09 2023 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya my posting is considered scummy as fuck
#hatersgonnahate It´s not hate it is what it is. Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 11:31 LightningStrike wrote:
For real though Darth I really hope we actually are the same alignment because we always been opposite alignments in the games we played together. Yeah together in the red team Show nested quote +On June 09 2023 21:54 LightningStrike wrote:Darth you should go to sleep like you keep on saying Nice little hint from you for him that he get too suspicious. Also you really try to push this DP and CC thing.
Ok regarding the haters gonna hate you really think I would post that right coming off a terrible game as mafia so early like that?
If I was mafia with Darth this game especially if you HAD read the mafia discord chat why I would tell him this game to bus me so hard so early given what I told VE in the previous game in that discord chat?
Also that last post I was legit trying to tell Darth regardless of his alignment to sleep given he did say he needed to sleep.
Regarding the Darth and CopCake stuff do you think the people pushing it (like me) are mafia just trying to push it or is it the motivation for pushing it is why you got me as mafia?[/QUOTE]
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On June 11 2023 00:32 LightningStrike wrote:DMB: Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 21:23 die_meatbaby wrote:CC is Town for me at the moment:CC is Rayn's fiancée. She is pretty sure that Rayn is Town. You find it suspicious that she sees him as Town when she usually sees him directly as Mafia. To me it looks more like she's just Town. When you are with someone you are sure what they are hiding or not hiding. I totally understand her reaction to your suspicion that she is red. Actually, it's just the emotional bond she has with Rayn. Strong Townread or Strong Mafiaread is just normal reaction of Love. Eyerthing inbetween would be a red flag for her. I feel the same way about Vivax. Either I see directly that he is green or red. In the first game I didn't think that it could be blue. DP looks bad for meThere is no specific post that makes him red for me, its just the way he writes. Feels different to the last game. VivaxI don´t know why but I have a strong townread on him (for now). Maybe because I was the reason he got lychend on D1 in game 1 and I felt bad after that, but still just see him as Town. He posts little bullshit in the thread but seems normal for me. Chez Chez is posting is always hard to understand for me. I don´t know why but always messge hidden in message or he posting english proverbs, that I as a non englisch person don´t know or understand and have to google it. This game he is makeing different trolls. different writing. Feels supect but still its chez ane he is hard do read so grey flag MZIt feels like you are here all the time reading along but staying silent. You have made 10 posts and we already have over 30 pages in the thread. As a mafia I would also stay quiet and restrained. LSOn June 09 2023 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya my posting is considered scummy as fuck
#hatersgonnahate It´s not hate it is what it is. On June 09 2023 11:31 LightningStrike wrote:
For real though Darth I really hope we actually are the same alignment because we always been opposite alignments in the games we played together. Yeah together in the red team On June 09 2023 21:54 LightningStrike wrote:Darth you should go to sleep like you keep on saying Nice little hint from you for him that he get too suspicious. Also you really try to push this DP and CC thing. Ok regarding the haters gonna hate you really think I would post that right coming off a terrible game as mafia so early like that? If I was mafia with Darth this game especially if you HAD read the mafia discord chat why I would tell him this game to bus me so hard so early given what I told VE in the previous game in that discord chat? Also that last post I was legit trying to tell Darth regardless of his alignment to sleep given he did say he needed to sleep. Regarding the Darth and CopCake stuff do you think the people pushing it (like me) are mafia just trying to push it or is it the motivation for pushing it is why you got me as mafia?
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sigh I was hoping DMB would answer what I had asked her because I am trying to understand why she thought I was mafia from those posts.
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DMB you never answered the questions i had asked can you please answer them!
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On June 11 2023 04:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
DMB you never answered the questions i had asked can you please answer them! She's at work so I'd wager not. It's a taxing work environment, trust me.
Thought she wasn't at wok sorry :|
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Just got home from playing Pokemon GO and out with family and I see DMB is the lynch O.O I didn't see anything scummy from her when I had remembered reading her filter earlier. Also the way that wagon formed fast is very bad indications honestly. Also MZ Vayoletta most likely will be replaced or Modkilled regardless of his alignment so policy lynching him isn't exactly a great idea.
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Also DMB voting herself is pretty surprising given she saw me do this as mafia giving up but I guess it makes sense for her to do so? Idk
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I did see her reasoning btw hence my "makes sense for her to do so?" part of my last post.
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Ya I not letting you lynch me. I will vote DMB to save myself if I have to.
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I am claiming Tracker now since people actually think I am a wagon option I am going to be useless now fml -.-
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And yes this is a hard claim I not backing down on it.
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On June 11 2023 10:46 DarthPunk wrote:
ok. i have unvoted, too late to sort that shit out unless someone counter claims in next 5 min.
If someone cc's me they are mafia no worries on that.
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Vayoletta is a 50% chance of him flipping either alignment would rather he gets modkilled or replaced by someone who will be active.
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On June 11 2023 10:48 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS have you been coached since last game?
Nope
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Chez wasting his vote on Rayn is pretty bad tbh.
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If DMB is mafia she decided to borrow stuff from me from last game some reason idk why she would given i not a good mafia player.
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On June 11 2023 10:57 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 10:54 LightningStrike wrote:
If DMB is mafia she decided to borrow stuff from me from last game some reason idk why she would given i not a good mafia player. You played so bad I would rather take some slam scum game than yours
I honestly would agree with that!
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Ya I don't think DMB is going to flip mafia myself.
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To be honest at this point I think mafia had a field day with how that lynch happened. I starting to think this because I also flipping my read on Darth given everything that happened (Rayn pointed out something really good and didn't think about last night).
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Darth if you are around I am very sorry about that tunnel it was awful and only what Rayn pointed out about EoD actually makes me think you are town now.
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If happened to die I do think there is 1-2 active mafias that were around EoD most likely given how flip floppy everything was at EoD should relook at EoD much closer.
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On June 12 2023 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:
If happened to die I do think there is 1-2 active mafias that were around EoD most likely given how flip floppy everything was at EoD should relook at EoD much closer. Do you think mafia was on my wagon?
hell if I know i was on your wagon so was CopCake and Vivax.
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On June 12 2023 10:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:
If happened to die I do think there is 1-2 active mafias that were around EoD most likely given how flip floppy everything was at EoD should relook at EoD much closer. You should definitely post your reads before the day post.
Tbh my reads didn't change a whole lot it's in my filter only big change is I think you are town given how EoD went.
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Was roleblocked as expected but what in the hell was that night kill? Someone who knows his rep is mafia.
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Guess I will take a closer look at EoD and figure out who the active mafia or mafias are.
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So the only people really active the last hour of Day 1 were Darth, MZ, Hapa(dead town), dmb (dead town), TTT, and Vivax. Just wonderful -_-
Read Hapa's filter and the only thing I got out of it so far is he had a big scumread on MZ hmmmmm.
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Obviously I think someone who knows Hapa's rep killed him but the question is who had played with Hapa before?
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Darth I know I had used WIFOM before as mafia regarding Night Kill stuff but here I am actively trying to figure things out hence my question. Btw who in the hell is Japan?
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btw Darth I do wish someone to CC me because it means they are mafia and we would get to lynch mafia for sure by Day 3 :D
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Also if you wondering who I decided to Track it was TTT just because I wanted to confirm his alignment more than anything.
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And this brings another question for you Darth: Current read on TTT?
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On June 12 2023 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Darth I know I had used WIFOM before as mafia regarding Night Kill stuff but here I am actively trying to figure things out hence my question. Btw who in the hell is Japan? Mafia sorry autocorrect I’m phone posting
Ok that makes more sense now in that post. Who knows though regardless.
On June 12 2023 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 11:32 LightningStrike wrote:
And this brings another question for you Darth: Current read on TTT? Not as town as last game.
What from TTT is bothering you this game that he isn't as town as last game for you.
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On June 12 2023 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Obviously I think someone who knows Hapa's rep killed him but the question is who had played with Hapa before? He was also objectively townie and had thread presence. I also think mz is town so maybe maf wanted to push things in that direction. I think people who didn’t care about the lynch seeing it was town on town on town, are the people to look at. Mafia really struggle with last minute vote switching so it’s a good place to look for info. It’s part of the reason I agree with Rayn that vivax is town, also why I thought hapa and mz were town. I need to re read cause it didn’t feel like ttt actually cared about who got lynched but that could also be style or whatever. But yeah firm on mz, vivax, you, me as town at this point. Rayn would be in that group too but I guess I respect his scum game too much, thinking he could appear this town or and actually plausibly still be mafia (not thinking that is the case)
True he was pretty townie and had thread presence. Given I know my alignment and we DMB's flip and how I think of your alignment that is fair to look at who didn't actually care about the lynch in terms of who flips.
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On June 12 2023 11:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2023 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:On June 12 2023 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:On June 12 2023 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Darth I know I had used WIFOM before as mafia regarding Night Kill stuff but here I am actively trying to figure things out hence my question. Btw who in the hell is Japan? Mafia sorry autocorrect I’m phone posting Ok that makes more sense now in that post. Who knows though regardless. On June 12 2023 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:On June 12 2023 11:32 LightningStrike wrote:
And this brings another question for you Darth: Current read on TTT? Not as town as last game. What from TTT is bothering you this game that he isn't as town as last game for you. He is less proactive in executing his scum hunting agenda and more just sheeping reads/ controlling the thread. I don’t want to lynch him today. But definitely we’d to out some work In towards determining his alignment. Ppl I want to look at today are Copcake, violetya, slam, ttt. Marvs slot if possible
Ya I see where you coming from there on him. Also agreed on who we should take a closer look at.
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On June 12 2023 11:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Sorry for all the typos. Phone posting sucks
No problem I do hate phone posting too myself.
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Just woke up:
On June 12 2023 15:36 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS can you take me through why you're so firm on DP being town now. I want to hear it from you because you seem super certain.
His EoD behavior as pointed by Rayn actually only can be done by town. The fact that he tried to start on a 3rd wagon even if it meant he get himself lynched is something I can only see town people do.
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On June 12 2023 23:40 Chezinu wrote:
TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first?
Why you think TTT is obvious mafia if I may ask? From what I read in your filter you never your read on him.
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At least up until this point Chez
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I am here now as yesterday was my mom's birthday and was doing stuff with her all day and couldn't sleep and took a nap catching up now!
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On June 13 2023 08:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
In your mind it wasn't, in mine it was. They wouldn't give us any information, so to me they're a lurker.
My lynching history: VE (active), LS (active), Marv (active), Slam (by this point active), DMB (active).
I'm pretty sure last game I said something along the lines of "I haven't even read [long list of inactive player]".
You had CopCake as well in your lynching history did you forget her?
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On June 13 2023 13:37 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 13:34 DarthPunk wrote:
I advocate a vig shot on chez btw. If we have one. If we do, kill LS.
If there was a Vig they would of shot me already Night 1 so doubt we have a Vig at all if we do got a 3rd blue for some reason given last game we had only 2 blues there (Vig and Doctor).
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All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD.
Here was his closer to EoD lynch list:
On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it.
Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD
Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted.
Also
On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3
Does this feel to over top for anyone else?
Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game.
##Vote: TannkTopTiger
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On June 14 2023 04:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight and won't be around for the lynch. Please do not let Vayoletta wiggle out of this.
Will check into Vay myself.
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Also Chez never answered my thing on TTT (I asked him why he was obvious mafia) and the fact he wasted his vote yesterday as well on Rayn could be a sign that he is mafia too.
In regards to Vay:
I don't know how to feel it seems like they agree with me but didn't exactly post a lot themselves and had some thoughts the same as mine too from the looks of it in her recent posting.
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On June 14 2023 04:27 Vayoletta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD. Here was his closer to EoD lynch list: On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted. Also On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3 Does this feel to over top for anyone else? Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game. ##Vote: TannkTopTiger I was just reading that list too, and I'm wondering if it is ATE theatre. But then I'm wondering why TTT is not pivoting to vote me. I'm the easiest push for wolves here, and he completely ignores it.
Idk I never voted Marv when I had the chance last game to mislynch him as town could be that he is giving up?
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On June 14 2023 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:27 Vayoletta wrote:On June 14 2023 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD. Here was his closer to EoD lynch list: On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted. Also On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3 Does this feel to over top for anyone else? Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game. ##Vote: TannkTopTiger I was just reading that list too, and I'm wondering if it is ATE theatre. But then I'm wondering why TTT is not pivoting to vote me. I'm the easiest push for wolves here, and he completely ignores it. Idk I never voted Marv when I had the chance last game to mislynch him as mafia when he was town could be that he is giving up?
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Also Marv posting since he had actually been playing looks like Town Marv so at least helps me out a bit.
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On June 14 2023 03:50 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 02:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'll tell ya what doesn't sit right with me. It's LightingStrike going afk the second pressure is off of him. If the last scum isn't Chez I might take another look at our "tracker" Only way LS is mafia is if he fake claimed and he got lucky enough that is a blur role another person doesnt have. I don’t know if there could be three blue roles, but there were only two last games.
I would of ran a risk as mafia of just straight up being lynched today if someone cc'd either End of Day 1 shortly after I claimed or during this Day phase.
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On June 14 2023 04:40 Vayoletta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 04:27 Vayoletta wrote:On June 14 2023 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD. Here was his closer to EoD lynch list: On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted. Also On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3 Does this feel to over top for anyone else? Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game. ##Vote: TannkTopTiger I was just reading that list too, and I'm wondering if it is ATE theatre. But then I'm wondering why TTT is not pivoting to vote me. I'm the easiest push for wolves here, and he completely ignores it. Idk I never voted Marv when I had the chance last game to mislynch him as town could be that he is giving up? TTT could always pivot to me to live an extra day, but I think me flipping town after that would be a death sentence for TTT. I think TTT as wolf would benefit more by sacrificing himself now for the greater good and A) letting other players wagon me or B) getting himself flipped and having town waste the D3 by having me flipped. TTT must have been aware of the fact that both me and him are being partnered, yet he has not reacted to those allegations in a meaningful way - the way he has spoken so little about me even in his giving up message and the fact that he has not even attempted to fight the allegations of being a wolf with me nor shown concern about them is something I find he would not do as town. He is planning to sink like a Titanic and take me with him to have town waste D3. Killing me first would cause more suspicion on my wagon where at least one wolf is already hiding and would give the town more chance to re-evaluate the game on D3 instead of just chopping me with little discussion. This is where my mind is on the matter right now. As a sidenote I'm fully caught up. Still a bit hazy as I had to speedread a lot.
Maybe idk but it more likely WIFOM if he flips mafia regarding you with his refusal to vote you.
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On June 14 2023 04:47 Vayoletta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:40 Vayoletta wrote:On June 14 2023 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 04:27 Vayoletta wrote:On June 14 2023 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:All caught up now I think TTT might of been my active mafia that was around EoD. Here was his closer to EoD lynch list: On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. Notice that in his lynch list was 2 blues and a unknown and he didn't exactly push his prefered lynches at all EoD Also he lied about his lynch list given that he did had CopCake in his lynch list yet didn't list her in his post I just recently quoted. Also On June 13 2023 15:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Aight. I think I'm a goner.
Even if I somehow make it out of this lynch, I don't think I'll live through the next one now that I'm pretty sure basically everyone is against me. I don't really want to spend the next 1-4 days fighting just to die anyway. I don't really blame people for being sus overall on me, I'm playing differently to last game for sure. But I am frustrated by the constant reading comprehension issues, the repeating the same questions, the ignoring my questions, the pedantry. You guys don't understand how I think, you didn't last game and you don't this game. That's fine but you seem to think you do??That's fine I guess it's just... Too much effort for me. I no longer have agency in the game, I'm not engaged, and I'm pretty bamboozled overall.
When I'm dead: I don't really have strong town reads. My read on Rayn was heavily based on some early interactions, and he hasn't really done much since then. It's stale and since everyone agreed he was town, I didn't really want more work on my plate filtering him when he was never going to be lynched.
DP I can never be sure because I haven't actually encountered his scum play in forum mafia and he speaks very highly of himself in this regard. He seems more agentic than last game where he was town (I don't see how Rayn think's he's current town boss compared to DP, Rayn afked the lynch and hasn't really done much more than perpetuate D1 convoes). I don't like how DP thinks I would go for policy lynches. In no game we have ever played together have I been the type of player to value points on the board over game state. DP, you realise what you're expecting me to want to do is bolt face turn 1 in an FFA right? Right?! I don't really see this as something he could possibly expect from me. I always play for control first every single time.
MZ seems townish but has difficulty understanding other points of view. If someone disagrees with him they're stupid dumdum. He felt this way last game too. MZ, you don't understand what I'm saying, and you're super motivated to twist it into contradiction.
Town is about to be 6-3. I stand by my read on CC, it's the best case. When you see I'm town, also make Vayo answer the question regarding their baseless reads. I'm also suspicious of Marv because he just doesn't seem active enough now he's free. Any other strong town player can't keep themselves from engaging. DP has no time and yet somehow his filter is enormous. I don't know Marv well, but his actual content posts are minimal within a filter barely over two pages long. When I subbed in last game, I felt I had a lot more to say than Marv does now.
Slam is... less than last game. He's just doing less. I have no idea why people have strong ideas about him... actually that's a recurring issue with you lot, you've normalised baseless reads.
Good luck town whoever tf you are <3 Does this feel to over top for anyone else? Along with all of that I did check his filter he not pushing his ideas as much as last game like Darth had mentioned when I talked to him about TTT. Feels like a mafia TTT this game over his last game. ##Vote: TannkTopTiger I was just reading that list too, and I'm wondering if it is ATE theatre. But then I'm wondering why TTT is not pivoting to vote me. I'm the easiest push for wolves here, and he completely ignores it. Idk I never voted Marv when I had the chance last game to mislynch him as town could be that he is giving up? TTT could always pivot to me to live an extra day, but I think me flipping town after that would be a death sentence for TTT. I think TTT as wolf would benefit more by sacrificing himself now for the greater good and A) letting other players wagon me or B) getting himself flipped and having town waste the D3 by having me flipped. TTT must have been aware of the fact that both me and him are being partnered, yet he has not reacted to those allegations in a meaningful way - the way he has spoken so little about me even in his giving up message and the fact that he has not even attempted to fight the allegations of being a wolf with me nor shown concern about them is something I find he would not do as town. He is planning to sink like a Titanic and take me with him to have town waste D3. Killing me first would cause more suspicion on my wagon where at least one wolf is already hiding and would give the town more chance to re-evaluate the game on D3 instead of just chopping me with little discussion. This is where my mind is on the matter right now. As a sidenote I'm fully caught up. Still a bit hazy as I had to speedread a lot. What I'm trying to say here, the only world where TTT would not react to being paired with me and by being pushed on the basis that they fit with me is that they are wolf and I'm town. If we were w/w (which we aren't) or if TTT is town, they would have a reason to react that or to comment me in some way. The only world where they would comfortably disregard that is the world where he is wolf and I'm town, and that is outing to me. I hope this conveys my take here better.
Ok that is a better explanation but still would be WIFOM though regardless of your alignment with that giving up post.
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On June 14 2023 04:50 Vivax wrote:##Unvote
##Vote: TTTI think I like this one better I miss rayn‘s presence in thread.
You voted in the wrong thread and you just summoned Rayn lol
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On June 14 2023 04:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 04:50 Vivax wrote:##Unvote
##Vote: TTTI think I like this one better I miss rayn‘s presence in thread. You voted in the wrong thread and you just summoned Rayn lol The eldritch gods are in commune with me
You claiming to be a DnD warlock?
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On June 14 2023 04:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:57 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 04:56 Vivax wrote:On June 14 2023 04:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 04:50 Vivax wrote:##Unvote
##Vote: TTTI think I like this one better I miss rayn‘s presence in thread. You voted in the wrong thread and you just summoned Rayn lol The eldritch gods are in commune with me You claiming to be a DnD warlock? Yes, but I prefer the term haruspex
lol
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On June 14 2023 05:09 marvellosity wrote:
The wagons are all way too fragmented with European bed time soon
Maybe
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On June 14 2023 05:11 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe?
It is a bit fragmented but there is a super majority on TTT by 2 votes.
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well Majority not Super Majority but you get the point.
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On June 14 2023 05:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 05:13 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 05:11 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe? It is a bit fragmented but there is a super majority on TTT by 2 votes. If someone gets clearly lynched with 4 votes something has probably gone a bit wrong
If he flips mafia like I think he will, mafia made a massive mistake somehow.
If flips town then we made a mistake somewhere.
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On June 14 2023 06:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘d like to see how Vayo‘s thoughts evolved from marv/me/chez to what they are now. Doesn‘t have to be a novel.
Though I‘m quite comfortable with my vote already.
Chez/Slam are in my blind spot.
Maybe we should uphold tradition and lynch the claimed tracker.
How about no on lynching me
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On June 14 2023 08:54 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 04:12 LightningStrike wrote:On June 13 2023 13:37 Chezinu wrote:On June 13 2023 13:34 DarthPunk wrote:
I advocate a vig shot on chez btw. If we have one. If we do, kill LS. If there was a Vig they would of shot me already Night 1 so doubt we have a Vig at all if we do got a 3rd blue for some reason given last game we had only 2 blues there (Vig and Doctor). You claimed. Vig would not shoot you.
Yes they would given last game we only had Vig and Doc as our blues.
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On June 14 2023 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax please switcherino?
Any reason? I don't think he been scummy tbh
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On June 14 2023 09:43 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 09:40 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax please switcherino? Any reason? I don't think he been scummy tbh You… want vivax not to vote for the same person you are voting and you dont find him scummy?
I mean I do want him to vote with me on my scum read but the thing is his play itself isn't causing me any issues tbh.
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On June 14 2023 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 09:40 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax please switcherino? Any reason? I don't think he been scummy tbh You don't think who is scummy? LS you really need to lift your game, you are 99% town in this spot and have not really done anything since you have been cleared. Can you please try and work some shit out.
Vivax isn't scummy I think TTT is mafia and same with Chez. Do you want to lynch Chez here?
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On June 14 2023 09:47 CopCake wrote:
Tinfoiling now there is a cop in the shadows with that LS post
If there is a cop I would love them to check me with someone tbh. More likely though I am the only blue alive given last game.
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On June 14 2023 09:45 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 09:44 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 09:43 CopCake wrote:On June 14 2023 09:40 LightningStrike wrote:On June 14 2023 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax please switcherino? Any reason? I don't think he been scummy tbh You… want vivax not to vote for the same person you are voting and you dont find him scummy? I mean I do want him to vote with me on my scum read but the thing is his play itself isn't causing me any issues tbh. Who's play? Vivax?
Yep Vivax.
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Anyone up for a last hour lynch of Chez? I know there isn't exactly a fancy case on him but I know people been suspicious of him and I did post a little bit why I thought he was mafia. I also know people aren't sold on either lynches atm.
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But my prefer lynch is TTT and would love to lynch him if people are actually want to but my alternative is Chez unless someone comes in with the best case in this game on someone.
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Slam I hope you are here and vote TTT with me please!
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Btw Chez you said TTT is obvious mafia why not vote him if you think he is obvious mafia?
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On June 14 2023 10:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2023 10:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Btw Chez you said TTT is obvious mafia why not vote him if you think he is obvious mafia? He wants to lynch him at lylo
-.-
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On June 14 2023 10:18 CopCake wrote:
That LS post just made my head explode
Which post?
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Oh that one ya I misread it was on mobile when i made that post -.-
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On June 14 2023 10:27 CopCake wrote:
Like, if MZ pushed your lynch because you are mafia with him and suddenly you got saved with a fake claim.
Again i know it's WIFOM but I would of been cc'd by now if I was mafia given last game.
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Woke up early will likely go back to bed at some point within the next hour:
On June 14 2023 16:09 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS where are you mate?
Marv if you show me why his recent posts are towny I'll listen. I don't read them that way but he's lazy tunneled on me (no conviction/curiosity, just cheering against from a quick filtering). It seems to me like he feels pressure to think something (ANI), and his tunnel is what he feels obligated to do. I don't think this makes him red because this is a doozy of a game and it's got us all stumped, but it doesn't feel towny.
I think I made my position clear on where I felt like who were scum in my filter. Hell I tried to get either one of them lynched but no one wanted to switch -.-
On June 14 2023 17:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I tunneled the shit out of Marv last game for certain things and I was wrong and he was town.
I've thought his posts this game have been good but his activity is starting to look a lot different than last time. I am perhaps giving him a blanket town read because I was wrong last game and I need to revisit this.
The fact he putting in effort when he had time (Hint he said pregame he wouldn't be able to do much until day 2 due to irl stuff) makes him town.
On June 14 2023 17:12 TankTopTiger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2023 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Whoever said MZ is town because he cared about the lynch, is not making a very good read. MZ's targets were LS and Vayoletta. We know Ls is like 99% blue, so unless MZ is mafia with Vayoletta, this is very safe thing to do to "look like caring" when noone is on the line from mafia team -- and multiple people had even said they are not up for policy lynch. On June 11 2023 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 11 2023 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I really dislike that this game is just a shadow of the previous game. Feels like i'm just missing half my brain. Well we've got 15 minutes, DMB, DP, Vayoletta, or LS. On June 11 2023 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.
I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it. I would rather policy. Worst thing that happens is Vayoletta flips town. If we don't policy, Vayoletta gets modkilled and we potentially mislynch a townie and lose 2 instead of worst case scenario 1. In between here LS claims. On June 11 2023 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LS... sigh. OK doubling down on a policy now Now what is this?? His other lynch target drops a blue claim so he STARTS DOUBTING the only viable lynch in his mind ?????? Or is there something i am misreading in this post lol? See and here too. Why are people just believing the claim straight up? Last game he claimed cop, pretty sure no CC, and he still went down as red. Why is the exact same scenario playing out except this time he's 99% blue according to big boys DP and Rayn? (minus hyperbole, 99% still means strong read).
I never claimed cop last game I only talked about being a cop in a past game with DP unless you thinking of VE who did claimed cop as mafia End of Day 2.
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On June 14 2023 19:47 marvellosity wrote:
Two cops banging
Cmon DP
FUCKING LOL
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I am aware of that TTT. Still think you are mafia and same with Chez but I am lost on my 3rd. Will have to do deeper investigations for that but to tired for it at the moment but I still think someone who was active End of Day 1 is mafia given how that lynch happened.
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Like if I am wrong on you TTT it will have someone active still active End of Day 1 because of how that lynch went.
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Finally got some proper sleep
On June 14 2023 21:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask how dangerous Hap is as a town? It sounded like he was respected but he wasn't getting the dick-riding treatment like e.g. Marv.
Strong town but weak scum?
I know NK wifom, but I think each player sort of has a range of people they NK. If I was scum, I would have gone after Rayn/Marv/DP because I don't know Hap or what he's capable of. I get the sense that there's a narrative surrounding the stronger players that more sheepy players would be submerged in and glued to. I think people also remove the threats they know. So I think the strongest player on the scum team is someone who has played with Hap before and respects his town game enough to consider it as much of a threat as Rayn/DP/marv. Someone discerning and confident. I think this points once more to one of Marv/Rayn/DP, but maybe others, I don't know the history of other players.
He has a very strong town game but a weaker scum game.
On June 14 2023 21:33 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay the NK makes a lot of sense then. Who of MZ/vivax/Chez/CC/LS/Slam would be aware of this Hap meta?
I do know his meta.
On June 15 2023 07:06 Chezinu wrote:
I want mafia to shoot the veteran so we can lynch LS. Or mafia can shoot LS and hope he not veteran.
Traveling. Can AI later.
We don't got a Veteran not only Veteran + Doctor is imbalanced by itself but I am a Tracker which is a strong role therefore not happening.
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On June 15 2023 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:sorry i had a 2hr call about the house we might be buying, with a friend of mine who is a construction engineer. Good news Cake, it's green light
Congrats on that!
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On June 15 2023 08:20 Chezinu wrote:
Oh, I just realized Copcake is on confirmed town list. How did that happen?
slip?
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On June 15 2023 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2023 08:24 LightningStrike wrote:On June 15 2023 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:sorry i had a 2hr call about the house we might be buying, with a friend of mine who is a construction engineer. Good news Cake, it's green light Congrats on that! Advocate lynches on TTT / MZ always. Don't get swayed by bullshit, even by town DP bullshit. You need to do that, those two are always mafia.
Noted.
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I been reading the thread and Slam why you outing yourself? And no I didn't fake claim despite what he said and no Marv isn't mafia at all. Regarding TTT I am stuck on him because some of his stuff seen genuine but I still want to be right on my read I had on him on Day 2 hmm.
@everyone but Slam who you got on your team now that Slam outed himself as mafia?
##Vote: Alakaslam
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Btw for who I was trying to track but got roleblocked: It was MZ so I could see if Rayn was right or not.
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Vivax it's WIFOM what he posted about me and Marv. Game is 100% invalid at this point due to Slam even though I am not Mafia and I don't think Marv is as well.
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On June 16 2023 06:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax it's WIFOM what he posted about me and Marv. Game is 100% invalid at this point due to Slam even though I am not Mafia and I don't think Marv is as well. Why is it invalid then?
If he is town he played against win condition with that play. If he is mafia he would of outed his "teammates" regardless if he told the truth or not.
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Btw I did post to Grack about that post by Slam and hope he actually does something about it.
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On June 16 2023 06:37 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 06:34 LightningStrike wrote:On June 16 2023 06:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 16 2023 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax it's WIFOM what he posted about me and Marv. Game is 100% invalid at this point due to Slam even though I am not Mafia and I don't think Marv is as well. Why is it invalid then? If he is town he played against win condition with that play. If he is mafia he would of outed his "teammates" regardless if he told the truth or not. People have played against their win con worse than that as town doesn’t make the game invalid? Why you going to the hosts now?
Because of regardless of everything the game is invalid even though I am town and Marv is likely town as well it's due to intent not due to improper play.
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Like I know some town players had played super bad but never done something close to what Slam had done though outside a few who did in fact post their role pm.
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On June 16 2023 06:39 DarthPunk wrote:
You literally said it’s wifom but the game is invalid and you are going to the hosts?
If you are mafia the only reason you were outed is these posts right now.
At least it's in my ind it's invalid even though I am town.
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Btw I am fine being mislynched over this DP just to prove a point.
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Proving that the game is invalid due to Slam's actions.
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On June 16 2023 06:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I know some town players had played super bad but never done something close to what Slam had done though outside a few who did in fact post their role pm. Why is what slam has done so bad ls?
Confirmed his own alignment and making 2 mislynches most likely by him outing me and Marv in that manner.
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On June 16 2023 06:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 06:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Proving that the game is invalid due to Slam's actions. What actions make it invalid?
I answered it in my last post.
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I not conceding because I am town but Vivax pretty much nailed it on the head why I think the game is invalid.
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On June 16 2023 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
I not conceding because I am town but Vivax pretty much nailed it on the head why I think the game is invalid. That’s not what you were saying though.
Indirectly I was.
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On June 16 2023 06:48 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:On June 16 2023 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:On June 16 2023 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
I not conceding because I am town but Vivax pretty much nailed it on the head why I think the game is invalid. That’s not what you were saying though. Indirectly I was. What was vivax saying ls?
Pretty much he thought the reason why I felt the game was invalid because me and Marv will have to be treated carefully which is because the direct cause being Slam decided to out himself in that manner. Although he worded the stuff I was trying to say better than I could.
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On June 16 2023 06:49 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 05:35 Alakaslam wrote:On June 16 2023 05:32 DarthPunk wrote:On June 16 2023 05:29 Alakaslam wrote:On June 16 2023 04:21 CopCake wrote:
Like my only hardcore town reads now is LS and DP
So I will wait to see what others say, specially chezinu about Slam so he can put some light into it
Slam, why did you change your read on Mz that fast? New information I catch up because phone post and fast fingers with double back button so I don't forget what page I was on / have to zoom in and see it What new information slam? Specifically I can wait while you link the posts and explain. M_Z starts saying thing You know what fuck it I'm not gonna have brain to be helpful anyway. Lynch me here before Lylo I hate this position worse than MZ does. I scum slipped pile on, my scum buddies are Marv and LS his fakeclaim is so badass you all believe it even me too, look at how he just peaced out and never says "roleblocked" or "tracked person" Watch me go bus now, I will host since that doesn't require as much time and I love doing this but hate doing this TO towns Oh Slam. I really hope you’re okay.
+1 regardless of everything.
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On June 16 2023 06:51 marvellosity wrote:
That’s made me sad right when I wanna be relaxing towards sleep. God damnit
Hey welcome to my world because of this situation.
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Marv does this change anything for you in terms of who is the scum team?
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On June 16 2023 06:53 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
I not conceding because I am town but Vivax pretty much nailed it on the head why I think the game is invalid. That´s fine, a normal chat is less nerve consuming than dealing with robocop, clown and criminal sock puppets. But there´s also the other side of me that saw DMB getting lynched and for a newbie it´s even doubly stressful so I wouldn´t just want the game to get turned upside down and sink. Can we play this to the semblance of a conclusion with no hard feelings? I think that´s most important to me and dead players who put in effort.
I am but you know how I feel though.
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On June 16 2023 06:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 06:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Marv does this change anything for you in terms of who is the scum team? Not at all.
Noted.
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On June 16 2023 07:17 marvellosity wrote:
Fuck it.
I am mafia. And LS is town.
You guys can continue the game and nothing will be ruined. If you want to play.
Hope you being sarcastic about this tbh.
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If Marv is telling the truth that he is mafia with his claim this going to make the game harder for me to figure out the last mafia >.<
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I guess it's my fault for this game but seriously though hope Slam is legit fine irl.
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I too hate playing as mafia mainly because I don't like to lie about shit 24/7
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To be honest guys it's my fault how this game ended I should of just ignored like I should of
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On June 16 2023 07:32 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:To be honest guys it's my fault how this game ended I should of just ignored like I should of All good dude. We all love slam and I think seeing that post took the air out of everyone’s sails.
Ya I knew his irl situation wasn't exactly good last game as he talked about a bit in there. Just hope he is going to be ok.
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On June 16 2023 07:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:To be honest guys it's my fault how this game ended I should of just ignored like I should of Sorry for being feisty towards you. I was just frustrated bc at this point in the game I was never gonna lynch you regardless of slams post.
No issues on my end.
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I am good with a break as well until everything is sorted.
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On June 16 2023 07:42 marvellosity wrote:
Just gotta say DP, you nailed CC day 1, really well played. Unfortunate you got talked out of it
+1
I should of listened to you there Darth.
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But seriously though idk how Vivax was mafia this game tbh.
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Ya ty for hosting and sorry for everything there!
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On June 16 2023 07:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
GGs everyone
But most importantly I hope you're doing OK slam. If you wanna talk man I'm here. I know it pales in comparison to what you're going through but my gf broke up with me D1 so I can relate to a fraction of how you feel right now.
Some things are just more important than mafia.
Oh yikes sorry about your gf breaking up with you on Day 1 :|
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Btw I only tried to track townies yikes >.<
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Can we see the OBS please? Can't see them yet
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Ya I was right that there was one person mafia the other town in that entire shit fight between you and CC Darth god damn it -.- I should of pursued it better than I actually did.
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Next time I am going have to pursue my ability to read fights more so I can get one mafia.
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On June 16 2023 07:58 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 07:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Next time I am going have to pursue my ability to read fights more so I can get one mafia. And sorry for beeing mean to you few min before my lynch. I was pissed because I didn't know who got town to lynch me after the lynch I had time to read and saw Vivax slightly pushed it.
Hey no issues there. I should of played better.
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On June 16 2023 08:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Game in August anyone?
I am up for a game in August.
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On June 16 2023 08:20 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 08:19 DarthPunk wrote:On June 16 2023 08:17 CopCake wrote:
But it was fun, you know.
Most scenarios fitted.
I wanted MZ lynched so next day we could lynch TTT
this was never going to happen IMO. Yeah but it could have worked with anyone vs TTT. And if MZ was alive, he would have been the night kill. If for some reason Marv was getting lynched, LS was the kill.
Was Marv the roleblocker?
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On June 16 2023 08:25 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2023 08:24 LightningStrike wrote:On June 16 2023 08:20 CopCake wrote:On June 16 2023 08:19 DarthPunk wrote:On June 16 2023 08:17 CopCake wrote:
But it was fun, you know.
Most scenarios fitted.
I wanted MZ lynched so next day we could lynch TTT
this was never going to happen IMO. Yeah but it could have worked with anyone vs TTT. And if MZ was alive, he would have been the night kill. If for some reason Marv was getting lynched, LS was the kill. Was Marv the roleblocker? Yup
Figured due to that comment.
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On June 17 2023 01:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I skimmed through/followed the game a bit, definitely wouldn't ever have caught Vivax whom I think played an absolutely incredible game. Looking forward to seeing you get mislynched all the time like all the pressure I got after Imperial >>
Perhaps you should start playing again along with Tina!
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On June 17 2023 03:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh I never really enjoyed playing, it's too stressful and I think it's similar for Tina ^^;
RIP
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