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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 13 2023 20:41 GMT
#1681
On June 14 2023 05:37 Vivax wrote:
DP are you alright ?


Joking brother.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 13 2023 20:47 GMT
#1682
Day Two Vote Count

TankTopTiger (4): rayneplikoneet, LightningStrike, Vayoletta, Vivax
Vayoletta (3): marvellosity, Vivax, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk
CopCake (2): DarthPunk, Chezinu, TankTopTiger
Chezinu (0): DarthPunk
marvellosity (0): Vivax

Not Voting (2): Alakaslam, CopCake

With 4 votes, TankTopTiger is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 14 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 13 2023 20:52 GMT
#1683
On June 14 2023 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vay, i don't think rehashing the situation around you and TTT will help much, since you would say the exact same thing if you are mafia with TTT (distancing). I don't think you have many options other than that in case youre both mafia.

If TTT is mafia, why
- is there only one mafia in your wagon?
- Why not two? It's not like anyone could blame anyone for voting you at the time they did..
- Who is the said mafia? General statements like "one of these 3-4 players is mafia" are not helping you atm.


1-2 on my wagon. Simply because I don't see a world where all of MZ/Vivax/Marvel are town. The scenario where I could see it being one is a world where TTT and Chez are both wolves, which I think could be possible.

I'm not sure I see the same things in Vivax as you do - you have locktowned him. If I would rank the wolves from most likely to least likely, I would rank them MZ < Marvel <<<< Vivax. I do not consider Vivax a lock clear here.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 13 2023 20:54 GMT
#1684
On June 14 2023 05:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 04:42 Vayoletta wrote:
I think rayn trended upwards today.

What’s the difference on yesterday?


I think the fact that he's pushing TTT above anyone else here makes him town.

This is a minor thing, but rayn used a phrase where he said something about having a "biggest fear" regarding a team, and I think phrases like that would come more naturally from a town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 20:58 GMT
#1685
I have been lurking, letting people do what they have to do without me interfering, like if I was in a obvs so I could have better reads and a open scenario of what is happening.

MZ, am I town?

Because suddenly your reads became exactly almost the same as mine.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2023 21:00 GMT
#1686
Why is MZ less likely to be mafia than marv?
table for two on a tv tray
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 13 2023 21:00 GMT
#1687
On June 14 2023 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 05:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 04:10 Vayoletta wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I feel like TTT tunneling Copcake is a deliberate way to control the threadstate by a wolf.

The wolves feel like they are in a comfortable position because I'm town here and the elim is getting directed to me. By pushing the thread into tunneling Copcake would create an atmosphere where wolves are able to sip martinis in peace as marvellosity and MZ get a pass.


This post in particular is bullshit since the wagon on Vayo formed after ttt stopped posting.

Trying to over explain a read backflip imo.

Vayoletta elaborate please.


It's true that I became a wagon only after TTT stopped posting, but the timing of when I became a wagon does not matter. Reading early/mid D2 it was quite clear that I was becoming a wagon. Everyone expressed varying levels of suspicion towards me and if the D2 discussion would be inconclusive, the elim would likely just default to me.

Tunneling and focusing on Copcake would have most likely resulted in that scenario.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 13 2023 21:01 GMT
#1688
On June 14 2023 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is MZ less likely to be mafia than marv?


Is this to me? I ranked from most wolfy to least wolfy, so MZ is wolfier in that list.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 21:02 GMT
#1689
On June 14 2023 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is MZ less likely to be mafia than marv?


Am I considering my read, I remeber him saying that he didnt like my post (when I said that TTT and DP were difficult opponents to deal if I was mafia) (btw this is not an insult or anything) and he said he hated my post.

After I made my read and talked about TTT/Vayoletta combo he came to same conclusion and I am ??????

His LS case on D1 is still good.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 13 2023 21:05 GMT
#1690
Where is Vayoletta’s rankin? I cant find a list.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2023 21:05 GMT
#1691
On June 14 2023 06:01 Vayoletta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is MZ less likely to be mafia than marv?


Is this to me? I ranked from most wolfy to least wolfy, so MZ is wolfier in that list.

Okay then the other way around, why is marv more likely to be mafia than Vivax?
You realise aside from marv's read on you and vice versa, you are both entertaining the same scum team (Chezinu + TTT)?
table for two on a tv tray
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 13 2023 21:17 GMT
#1692
On June 14 2023 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 06:01 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 14 2023 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is MZ less likely to be mafia than marv?


Is this to me? I ranked from most wolfy to least wolfy, so MZ is wolfier in that list.

Okay then the other way around, why is marv more likely to be mafia than Vivax?
You realise aside from marv's read on you and vice versa, you are both entertaining the same scum team (Chezinu + TTT)?


Hapahauli's read on MZ makes him the clearest wolf on my wagon, but I do reckon that's wifom.

I also think that Marvel voting me makes sense with his progression, so that also takes him above MZ here.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 13 2023 21:19 GMT
#1693
I‘d like to see how Vayo‘s thoughts evolved from marv/me/chez to what they are now. Doesn‘t have to be a novel.

Though I‘m quite comfortable with my vote already.

Chez/Slam are in my blind spot.
Maybe we should uphold tradition and lynch the claimed tracker.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 13 2023 21:21 GMT
#1694
Oh my bad she wrote about that
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 13 2023 21:23 GMT
#1695
On June 14 2023 06:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘d like to see how Vayo‘s thoughts evolved from marv/me/chez to what they are now. Doesn‘t have to be a novel.

Though I‘m quite comfortable with my vote already.

Chez/Slam are in my blind spot.
Maybe we should uphold tradition and lynch the claimed tracker.

How about no on lynching me
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 13 2023 21:26 GMT
#1696
On June 14 2023 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 06:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘d like to see how Vayo‘s thoughts evolved from marv/me/chez to what they are now. Doesn‘t have to be a novel.

Though I‘m quite comfortable with my vote already.

Chez/Slam are in my blind spot.
Maybe we should uphold tradition and lynch the claimed tracker.

How about no on lynching me


Sorry, was meant to be a joke

I could do MZ if anyone could convince me or anyone else for that matter that TTT isn‘t it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2023 21:37 GMT
#1697
On June 14 2023 06:17 Vayoletta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 14 2023 06:01 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 14 2023 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is MZ less likely to be mafia than marv?


Is this to me? I ranked from most wolfy to least wolfy, so MZ is wolfier in that list.

Okay then the other way around, why is marv more likely to be mafia than Vivax?
You realise aside from marv's read on you and vice versa, you are both entertaining the same scum team (Chezinu + TTT)?


Hapahauli's read on MZ makes him the clearest wolf on my wagon, but I do reckon that's wifom.

I also think that Marvel voting me makes sense with his progression, so that also takes him above MZ here.

Yes i can see that but why marv mafia over Vivax?
table for two on a tv tray
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 13 2023 21:58 GMT
#1698
TTT save yourself!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 13 2023 21:59 GMT
#1699
If TTT chooses to save... Slam you must choose. Hopefully, you know what you must do by now.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 13 2023 22:13 GMT
#1700
I‘ve reread TTT. Not sure if they reminded me of someone I‘ve played with before, but it‘s just... After a few rereads you tend to notice that there‘s quality in there. And not little of it.

I‘m afraid I‘m going to keep it brief while on phone but it‘s a choice that gives me the heebies. Like most choices I‘m faced with at this point.

I think I‘m opting back for Vayo instead. More in a mood of getting guidance than giving it under the current circumstances and I can‘t help but feel extremely unconfident as to who to eliminate.
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