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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 08:43 GMT
#1101
-______-

Not gonna lie, I love the irony but damn :/

Baby I hope you continue to play <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 08:45 GMT
#1102
On June 11 2023 11:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

die_meatbaby (4): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Hapahauli, DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby, TankTopTiger, Hapahauli
DarthPunk (3): CopCake, Vivax, die_meatbaby, LightningStrike, Vivax, Vivax
Vayoletta (1): DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk
Raynpelikoneet (1): Chezinu
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Hapahauli, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, DarthPunk, TankTopTiger
CopCake (0): DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam
Chezinu (0): raynpelikoneet
Vivax (0): Chezinu


Not Voting (3): marvellosity, Vayoletta, DarthPunk

With 4 votes, die_meatbaby has been lynched!



Is thus correct? DP didnt vote?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 08:52 GMT
#1103
He voted 1 min too late.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 08:55 GMT
#1104
Yeah I went to check and he voted exactly at 00
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 09:26 GMT
#1105
DP, why did you ask if MZ “drunk post” was real but when he was here you didn’t even care?

Why did you believe Baby was being honest instantly but MZ could be faking?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 11 2023 09:52 GMT
#1106
On June 11 2023 18:26 CopCake wrote:
DP, why did you ask if MZ “drunk post” was real but when he was here you didn’t even care?

Why did you believe Baby was being honest instantly but MZ could be faking?


I didn't ask if it was real, I asked if Hapa thought he was lying, this was important because Hapa was basing at least some part of his MZ read on MZ being snarky. Which was partially explainable by the drinking and personal issues.

I really wish you read and understood what was going on before leaping to assumptions.

Do you have any thoughts on any other players aside from me?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 09:58 GMT
#1107
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.
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Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:06 GMT
#1108
I was not aware that nights are talky this game, that's not how these games are usually played. Thought I'd use the quiet night to catch up with the game.

In my vision Copcake, Alakaslam and Hapahauli are all town. With Alakaslam that's more of the tone and the way he conveyed his thoughts early game that makes me read him town. Copcake's aggression makes me read that slot as town. and Hapahauli's request of clarification for activity rules here makes me think he has genuine concern on my slot, which would more naturally come from town.

Haven't read the thread for pr claims, but will need to check if there are any clears.

If Darthpunk is town, I would say there is a good chance that there is one mafia there. I don't think Copcake is mafia, so either Lightning or Vivax.

Copcake, what's the reason you voted DarthPunk?



raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 10:07 GMT
#1109
LS claimed to be a tracker.
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Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:08 GMT
#1110
On June 09 2023 14:51 Chezinu wrote:
I was told that I appeared too townie last game, so I will work on it this game. I will try not to highly convince everyone that I am a certain role. I will try and be multiple roles in multiple realities.

I will deliver my post everyday to prevent the master from killing me. However, I must warn you. The master will kill whoever doesn't post everyday.

If everyone does post, someone still must go. For the master will make us choose who must go. Then they will be no more.


Oh, I forgot I had marked this post mentally.

What happened in the last game Chezinu refers here? I'm trying to make sense as to does this make sense from a towny perspective or not.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:10 GMT
#1111
On June 11 2023 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS claimed to be a tracker.


LS is Lightning? Explains why his wagon disappeared. I think this means there is a good chance in there being one between DarthPunk and Vivax, unless someone can sell me a good case on CopcCake.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 10:10 GMT
#1112
On June 11 2023 19:06 Vayoletta wrote:
[...]
If Darthpunk is town, I would say there is a good chance that there is one mafia there. I don't think Copcake is mafia, so either Lightning or Vivax.

Copcake, what's the reason you voted DarthPunk?


I am assuming you are talking about DarthPunk voters here?
If you think Cake is town why are you questioning her instead of the non-town reads for their votes?
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 11 2023 10:10 GMT
#1113
On June 11 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.


I'm less sure TTT is town then last game. By some margin. Im not going to post much in the night, but I have some thoughts that I will share before the day post.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 11 2023 10:14 GMT
#1114
Rayn how strong is your town read on cake btw?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:16 GMT
#1115
On June 11 2023 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 19:06 Vayoletta wrote:
[...]
If Darthpunk is town, I would say there is a good chance that there is one mafia there. I don't think Copcake is mafia, so either Lightning or Vivax.

Copcake, what's the reason you voted DarthPunk?


I am assuming you are talking about DarthPunk voters here?
If you think Cake is town why are you questioning her instead of the non-town reads for their votes?


I want to know what's the case on DP, and I trust Cake's answer more than Vivax's. Now that I know that LS is town though, would have been better to ask him for that case.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 10:17 GMT
#1116
On June 11 2023 19:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn how strong is your town read on cake btw?

Not as strong as my reads on you, Vivax and Hapa, Slam level maybe.
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Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:21 GMT
#1117
On June 09 2023 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 18:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
I've read the thread twice now. I waited until I was reading the second time to actually post anything.

I mean you quoted:
post 1
post 2
post 3
post 4

Why did you post questions on them in order
post 2
post 1
post 3
post 4


Now this is a slight read, but I think rayn would be more likely to push on small things like this as town instead of a wolf. To my understanding rayn likes to hunt wolves without really caring about how it affects how he's viewed in the game as town. Anyone with meta on rayn can give input on whether he'd push things like this as wolf or not.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:28 GMT
#1118
On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?


Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread.


Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she wont explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense.

The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists.

Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

Those two factors are enough at this juncture.

##Vote: Copcake


Hmm. This does seem a bit like a level 1 read where DP does not take into account why on earth Cake would waltz into the game with a strong townread on rayn, especially when, according to rayn's earlier post, Cake always misreads rayn's tonwgames as wolfgames when Cake observes rayn's games.

I'm not sold on this vote, and I wonder if would DP genuinely make a read like this as town.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 10:30 GMT
#1119
Of course i would, it would be similar "outage in logic" that i am looking for as town.

Why do you think there must be mafia in DP wagon? The counter-wagon has flipped town, in case DP is town as well what does it matter where mafia votes?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 10:32 GMT
#1120
I am just gonna say to everyone who thinks DP is mafia; read pages 47 -> lynch and tell me again why he is mafia?
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