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Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:33 GMT
#1121
On June 09 2023 23:02 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Rayn & CC
I don't think it's plausible that you are both red so I'm going to trust you both when you say it's reasonable for CC to trust Rayn in this game. I'm trusting you two to know each other better than I know you. CC isn't completely off the hook with me, she's still probably most red, but not deep red like she would have been if Rayn answered differently.

I'm gonna go to bed, I expect tomorrow we can resolve these claims about lying etc. with some slower posting if need be.



I think TTT has had the best reaction on the DP/Cake/rayn mess. Like, I know some wolves like to act all reasonable to look townie in situations like this, but it's more likely town than wolf.
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 11 2023 10:36 GMT
#1122
On June 11 2023 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course i would, it would be similar "outage in logic" that i am looking for as town.

Why do you think there must be mafia in DP wagon? The counter-wagon has flipped town, in case DP is town as well what does it matter where mafia votes?


I think DP's early game was not that strong and that he would have been easy to push. I also think parking a vote there could have been good strategically for wolves as usually the voters of the flipped town wagon are scrutinized the most.

I'm nowhere near page 47 yet, but will hopefully make it there during the night. I'm hosting a quest until monday, so that's when I get to play serious and read the rest of the thread if I can't reach it till the end.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 10:44 GMT
#1123
On June 11 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.


???????

Can’t mafia fake to try to save someone and then be “i told you so”? Or what I am not seeing right here? Please elaborate. Because I am tunelled.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 10:49 GMT
#1124
On June 11 2023 07:58 CopCake wrote:
Ok DP, if I live in a world you are town, do you think TTT has the power to manipulate you and play you?



This was my last post before I fell asleep.

Can you answer me Darth?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 10:54 GMT
#1125
On June 11 2023 19:44 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.


???????

Can’t mafia fake to try to save someone and then be “i told you so”? Or what I am not seeing right here? Please elaborate. Because I am tunelled.

save someone to lynch themselves??????
you realise if DMB would not be lynched DP would most likely..
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 10:57 GMT
#1126
On June 11 2023 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 19:44 CopCake wrote:
On June 11 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.


???????

Can’t mafia fake to try to save someone and then be “i told you so”? Or what I am not seeing right here? Please elaborate. Because I am tunelled.

save someone to lynch themselves??????
you realise if DMB would not be lynched DP would most likely..


He didnt want to lynch dmb, tho.

He was proposing to lynch Vayoletta.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 11:08 GMT
#1127
On June 11 2023 19:57 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 11 2023 19:44 CopCake wrote:
On June 11 2023 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP can you look at TTT's filter for me and tell me what you think? He seems to be saying Cake is mafia for having such a strong town read on me every time she talks about Cake, but every time he talks with me the conversation ends in "okay if you know each other i see your point and that's not why i think Cake is mafia". It's really absurd.

Cake comeon, do you really still think DP is mafia??? If you can't process what happened especially towards eod1 you're either insane or mafia if this read still sticks.


???????

Can’t mafia fake to try to save someone and then be “i told you so”? Or what I am not seeing right here? Please elaborate. Because I am tunelled.

save someone to lynch themselves??????
you realise if DMB would not be lynched DP would most likely..


He didnt want to lynch dmb, tho.

He was proposing to lynch Vayoletta.


Exactly, and what do you think would happen? I was asleep, TTT disagreed with Vayoletta lynch, noone on DP wagon would change obviously because well.. they think DP is mafia.

Worst case scenario half of the people on DMB swap and DP kills himself. It's not a good mafia strategy.
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 11:18 GMT
#1128
Ok, now I get your point. You think mafia DP would have sit and be quiet and let Dmb die instead of trying to save her because if not, it was more likely he would be lynched.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22410 Posts
June 11 2023 11:20 GMT
#1129
I dreamed tonight that I saw a manificent fox approach from the balcony while laying on a lawn of grass with dmb. It climbed down a tree, jumped past us and got into the flat.

Inside the house, no red fox anywhere other young foxes of different colors who were hiding under pieces of furniture. The first to run past bit DMB in the big toe, so I started grabbing whatever I could and hunting them down, but their number kept proliferating at an alarming rate before I woke up.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 11 2023 11:23 GMT
#1130
On June 11 2023 20:18 CopCake wrote:
Ok, now I get your point. You think mafia DP would have sit and be quiet and let Dmb die instead of trying to save her because if not, it was more likely he would be lynched.

Exactly, not necessarily be quiet but not to advocate another lynch that strongly. The only way i can see that, is if DP somehow figured out DMB is blue and made an educated guess DMB is gonna claim and then he HAS to try to lynch someone else. I don't know if that's true and i would need to check better since it seemed like noone thought DMB is blue.
table for two on a tv tray
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 11 2023 11:29 GMT
#1131
On June 11 2023 19:49 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:58 CopCake wrote:
Ok DP, if I live in a world you are town, do you think TTT has the power to manipulate you and play you?



This was my last post before I fell asleep.

Can you answer me Darth?


I'm not answering you anymore as you have not had the courtesy of answering me this game since the beginning. I have asked you several times now to provide reads on literally anything else.

In my opinion all you have done this game is to ineffectually try and lynch a townie.

It's not productive, it's not interesting and I am moving on.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 11:41 GMT
#1132
On June 11 2023 20:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 20:18 CopCake wrote:
Ok, now I get your point. You think mafia DP would have sit and be quiet and let Dmb die instead of trying to save her because if not, it was more likely he would be lynched.

Exactly, not necessarily be quiet but not to advocate another lynch that strongly. The only way i can see that, is if DP somehow figured out DMB is blue and made an educated guess DMB is gonna claim and then he HAS to try to lynch someone else. I don't know if that's true and i would need to check better since it seemed like noone thought DMB is blue.


He said that Dmb is the only one that “reads” and he took time to read chezinu. Nevertheless, that doesn’t confirm he figured out she was blue.

And even if he did figured out and she claimed, he was the lynch pretty much. (Most likely)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 11:51 GMT
#1133
On June 11 2023 11:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

die_meatbaby (4): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Hapahauli, DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam, die_meatbaby, TankTopTiger, Hapahauli
DarthPunk (3): CopCake, Vivax, die_meatbaby, LightningStrike, Vivax, Vivax
Vayoletta (1): DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk
Raynpelikoneet (1): Chezinu
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Hapahauli, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, DarthPunk, TankTopTiger
CopCake (0): DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam
Chezinu (0): raynpelikoneet
Vivax (0): Chezinu


Not Voting (3): marvellosity, Vayoletta, DarthPunk

With 4 votes, die_meatbaby has been lynched!



At least MZ, TTT, Darth, Happa and LS were active (from this thread, need to check times in voting thread)

MZ was already on vayoletta, Idk if LS would move his vote from DP, that leaves TTT and Happa for a secure (maybe?) switch to Vayoletta. (??????) if dmb claimed doc.



LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 11 2023 11:58 GMT
#1134
To be honest at this point I think mafia had a field day with how that lynch happened. I starting to think this because I also flipping my read on Darth given everything that happened (Rayn pointed out something really good and didn't think about last night).
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 11 2023 12:04 GMT
#1135
Yeah I will stop to tunnel him because that would have been waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy too risky.

Even if he figured it out.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 11 2023 12:56 GMT
#1136
Darth if you are around I am very sorry about that tunnel it was awful and only what Rayn pointed out about EoD actually makes me think you are town now.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22410 Posts
June 11 2023 13:08 GMT
#1137
I want to trade my brain for a potato.
Haven‘t read EoD again yet and yesterday I skimmed it and I‘m in motivation recovery mode because of the parallels to last game.

But I think the dream had meaning.
Who was the red fox from my dream that bit my other halfs toe off and brought havoc upon my house with its offspring?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
June 11 2023 13:40 GMT
#1138
On June 11 2023 19:08 Vayoletta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 14:51 Chezinu wrote:
I was told that I appeared too townie last game, so I will work on it this game. I will try not to highly convince everyone that I am a certain role. I will try and be multiple roles in multiple realities.

I will deliver my post everyday to prevent the master from killing me. However, I must warn you. The master will kill whoever doesn't post everyday.

If everyone does post, someone still must go. For the master will make us choose who must go. Then they will be no more.


Oh, I forgot I had marked this post mentally.

What happened in the last game Chezinu refers here? I'm trying to make sense as to does this make sense from a towny perspective or not.

Basically, I was too obviously town and convinced everyone very well that people said it ruined the game. So for this game, Grack gave me a handicap that I can't say certain things to convince people that I am <censored>.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22410 Posts
June 11 2023 14:31 GMT
#1139
On June 11 2023 22:40 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 19:08 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:51 Chezinu wrote:
I was told that I appeared too townie last game, so I will work on it this game. I will try not to highly convince everyone that I am a certain role. I will try and be multiple roles in multiple realities.

I will deliver my post everyday to prevent the master from killing me. However, I must warn you. The master will kill whoever doesn't post everyday.

If everyone does post, someone still must go. For the master will make us choose who must go. Then they will be no more.


Oh, I forgot I had marked this post mentally.

What happened in the last game Chezinu refers here? I'm trying to make sense as to does this make sense from a towny perspective or not.

Basically, I was too obviously town and convinced everyone very well that people said it ruined the game. So for this game, Grack gave me a handicap that I can't say certain things to convince people that I am <censored>.


a radiation sickness inducer?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22410 Posts
June 11 2023 14:39 GMT
#1140
On June 11 2023 10:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2023 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 10:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home from playing Pokemon GO and out with family and I see DMB is the lynch O.O I didn't see anything scummy from her when I had remembered reading her filter earlier. Also the way that wagon formed fast is very bad indications honestly. Also MZ Vayoletta most likely will be replaced or Modkilled regardless of his alignment so policy lynching him isn't exactly a great idea.


And he appears!

Like magic!

Holy fuck it's unreal, just like last game lmao


Yeah, I could actually lynch him at this point, im sorry hapa.

##unvote

## Vote: LS

For fucking Justice!


This hyperbole was superscum and no one can tell me otherwise. But what do I know, I don't have ten pages of filter of which approximately half were omgus.
I'm not resting until I'm out, or he's out.
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