On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote: Vivax has your friend played previously?
She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ
I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.
Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.
I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.
I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day
Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too
On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote: Vivax has your friend played previously?
She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ
I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.
Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.
I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.
I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day
Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too
Why not carry Vivax to a town victory? Feels so opposite and the italic part reads as justification for being opposite.
Can she really feel so strong on Mafia!Vivax?
Ok I went back and reread this and there is an implication that she knows they are opposite alignments.
I assumed/ interpreted that she equated lynching him with beating him. Or winning but I think Koshi is really switched on here.
Koshi could be mafia as well but I am not quite sure yet... I am waiting and watching before voting on him.
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote: The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.
If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.
What's your opinion on people now?
Tell me what the point is then
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?
I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?
Outside the game we never talk about the game It would be against the rules. #fairplay
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote: [quote] If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?
I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?
I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.
If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?
I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta
If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?
If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.
I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.
Goodio?
It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.
And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second. But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times.
I already explained why I think you and Vivax are mafia. In the first few pages you can see that you too where always answering at the same time and being off at the same time. So I only can think of you too where writing your plans on discord how you can hide. I still not sure who is the 3th mafia member, but we will find out.
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote: [quote] I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?
I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.
If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?
I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta
If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?
If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.
I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.
Goodio?
It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.
And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second. But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times.
I already explained why I think you and Vivax are mafia. In the first few pages you can see that you too where always answering at the same time and being off at the same time. So I only can think of you too where writing your plans on discord how you can hide. I still not sure who is the 3th mafia member, but we will find out.
So you think me and Vivax were writing our thoughts on the thread at the same time because we were wrting also onb discord on how to hide?
And you after that said you are sure Vivax is mafia, like completely and utterly sure. Why does that not apply to me as per your earlier investigations? And how are you so sure?
You two stopped writing here for the same time, looked like you two where both something doing for the same 10 min and coming back here at the same time. I just preferred to vote Vivax out first because he brought me in this game.
On May 24 2023 05:46 Koshi wrote: Ok I can't vote marv anymore. I am saving the last pages for work. Because it is late and I dont want to think. ##unvote ##Vote: mebaby Tbh I am not super duper happy with Vivax I think but this scumread from mebaby is totally insane. Like Vivax didnt even post a lot. Twice. And rayn was more active and was in the thread at the same time. I can only imagine this is some weird crossover shit from irl mafia where the mafia has to fake reads in a fast pace game.
Sorry was working last few hours... You really think they going to make a new girl directly mafia? I heard most of you weren't playing in years in this game is like legendary rematch after years... you think they taking the chance to ruin this game and make a new member (who never played) a mafia?
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote: Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town? Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town
But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me
On May 24 2023 07:37 Koshi wrote: @Mebaby: one more Q, how do you feel about Vivax not wanting to scumread you even though you are aiming for his testicals this entire game?
First of al his testicals are mine now no matter if in rl or online. I think he would not scumread me ever, because he would be scared to cook and feed the snake every day on his own..
On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: People i don't want to lynch: Koshi Lightningstrike marvellosity
Probably not Darthpunk either. From what i know DP is very aware of the state of the game when he is mafia, not afraid to engage in conversations with his scumbuddies, basically he tends to look very town especially early on. This game i feel like DP is more like.. clueless(?) at times, and i think it's more likely genuine "i don't know what's going on" rather than "i pretend i don't really know what's going on". If DP would be mafia he would probably be mafia with two peopel who haven't posted yet.
VE goes to the same category. I don't really agree with his conclusions, hell i don't even know why he writes what he writes but i don't really think VE as mafia would write what he writes.
Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.
Would lyncherino:
meatbaby -- what Koshi said
MZ is tricky. Last couple (three?) games i have been mafia and every time MZ goes to post something D1 i go like "man how the hell can anyone think anything like that (he has been town)?!?!?!" and then i go "man, how the hell can anyone think MZ is mafia?!?!?" and everyone wants to lynch him.. I don't get the same feeling at all here. Maybe it's because i am not mafia and i am looking at the game differently with not all the information. I can see MZ genuinely thinking marv is mafia but something just doesn't sit right there.
Slam is the least of these three. It's not really alignment indicative for him to "cling" on someone and answer to (all of) their posts, but nothing really makes me think he is town. Probably not mafia together with marv is my best conclusion atm.
Everyone who has not posted can also die for all i care. Or anyone who has posted and i had not in my list.
Me and vivax never talk about the game ever 2 pc´s 2 different rooms. Also if I have questions i would write the host and not asking him.
On May 24 2023 07:37 Koshi wrote: @Mebaby: one more Q, how do you feel about Vivax not wanting to scumread you even though you are aiming for his testicals this entire game?
First of al his testicals are mine now no matter if in rl or online. I think he would not scumread me ever, because he would be scared to cook and feed the snake every day on his own..
Ok. So him being meek is NAI ( not allignment indicative).
Did you see me proof that Vivax and rayn didnt leave together and that rayn was active continiously and Vivax only made 2 posts? So rayn being there when Vivax made those 2 posts is just a coincidence? And how did you "feel" that they were hiding and posting together when you were sleeping at that time?
yeah and I know you guys played this game sence years but and you have different techniques to play, and you already played with each other and know how they played. I just try my own style to get a win for als Townies But still i feel not good about Vivax in the game he is just to quiet to be town and he just write safe phrases. Like he realyy suspect for me
On May 24 2023 13:44 DarthPunk wrote: @Die Meat Baby
Why are you voting for Onegu when you think Vivax is mafia?
Please actually answer the question this time. :D
Becauce he is not active and I want to play the game real. Hate things like this. Don´t go in game if you are not playing... afk f0cks me up every time playing, not matter which game, so wanted to vote him out. Still i think Vivax is def. not town.
On May 24 2023 17:14 marvellosity wrote: First post of the game on a computer for me, hurrah! And first post of today with clothes on, you'll all be thrilled to hear. I'm going to summarise where I'm at.
Koshi and rayn seem pretty-to-very town to me, at least if they are not I am not going to be catching them very soon. rayn thinks what I think a good bunch of the time. Koshi loves to vote for me d1 as town (not that that's the reason for the read, but ya know)
DP I am no longer particularly suspicious of, I don't think I have a reason to be.
VE I don't think I am suspicious of either. Some of his posts are very ?????? to me, but I don't think that makes him mafia. VE loves a big or crazy sort of play as mafia and he's not afraid to put himself out there, but I don't think it's like this?
Vivax I am unsure of. Tonally I think he looks fairly town, but before I looked at his filter just now I'm at least somewhat suspicious of him. It feels to me that a town-Vivax should be using all his irl leverage to really question and dig into MB's alignment, rather than giving occasional summaries of his thoughts. I just imagine myself in Vivax's position - I would want nothing more than to determine the alignment of my friend. I did re-read his filter though and it also didn't scream mafia particularly apart from that, random comment about MB being mafia spews me town, is that something he writes as mafia?
Slam could be anything (if there's a way to tell that I can't remember, enlighten me). LS I am also very null on.
MB I don't have much else to add than what Koshi said and my response to what Koshi said not long ago. Could easily be mafia, meatbaby - I really encourage you to post your thoughts and reasoning behind them as much as possible today
MZ I think is mafia. It was floating around in my brain yesterday, but the case against me at least looked clean and (some) of his posts maybe looked okay, so I wasn't sure how to pinpoint what I was thinking. But rayn's comments about MZ and how his posting style appeared to him in past games really resonated to me and helped me make sense of my thoughts. Actually his case against me is too clean/obvious, and I don't think he's actually trying to discern my alignment. I think he is playing the way an old-school scum player plays, relatively unruffly comments, targeting someone (me) that has at least some thread traction, a case that 'makes sense' but doesn't dig any further.
##vote: MZ
P.S. I am slightly sad that we have 2 non-posters, I hope at least 2 mafia sit in the people actually playing, or it's gonna be sucky.
For shure this is my first game and I think you all try to be goeing easy on me otherwise I would be lynched already, because i trigger you all with my opinion about Vivax and rayn. If would be Mafia I would be aiginst Koshi because he got a vote on me, still I wouldn´t vote for him, because he is def. town. I think you as well
I know earlier i said about Chingu "he seems like town" It was my mistake. I had a post in my head and thought he was writing it, but was not him. Sorry i should concentrade more. I was trying to read erverything while working, but better to just go in on my freetime.
And Alakaslam was not realy writing much in D1 so sorry that I not had a opinion on him.
And sorry maybe i am still high from the stuff I got from the dentist half hour ago
On May 24 2023 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am just gonna say, i wrote this:
On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: [...] Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid. [...]
She pretty much instantly responds:
On May 24 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote: Me and vivax never talk about the game ever 2 pc´s 2 different rooms. Also if I have questions i would write the host and not asking him.
Think about it a little bit from the PoV that they are both mafia?
I didn‘t coach her while posting. Do you think she’d list Chez as town if I did that ?
Do you think she would be coachable if she was mafia? Because why would anyone let her do that?
I assume she would be, since we play on different computers.
Try to to coach me i will give no fuck and to what i want to do. I cannot be chastised. You should no that
On May 24 2023 13:44 DarthPunk wrote: @Die Meat Baby
Why are you voting for Onegu when you think Vivax is mafia?
Please actually answer the question this time. :D
Becauce he is not active and I want to play the game real. Hate things like this. Don´t go in game if you are not playing... afk f0cks me up every time playing, not matter which game, so wanted to vote him out. Still i think Vivax is def. not town.
But Chezinu and Sentinel didn't post either, why Onegu.
Because he got one vote and two makes him out rather give my last vote to non active piss of shit and play real either to have and reduce the peace of shitness to two fucking annying peace of shit how sign up here but not playing
Vivax to shy to answer or to scared to get caught? you are cute but don´t forget no fucking love when i play game and your are more suspicious then the others here...
On May 24 2023 18:19 die_meatbaby wrote: btw is this like american Tv or can i use fuck to express my emtions on this shitheads who are not playing
Only if you want to become besties with Koshi and rayn
No still not happy about rayn but could change depends on his next votes
And if you try to fuck me up more i will find Koshi´s terraium and pet his snake
You sure that it was a dentist ? At this rate you're threatening my honorary spot for most insane player on TL.
Of course i am more insane than you. My fucking Period starts don´t fuck with me. Mood is not good right now... You got me in this game. I get you out of this game
@Vivax we play cards, you lose...we play a boardgame you lose. You beat me one time in mario card and that was just luck for you. I will win aigainst you, because you are making shit right now. Beeing here for 2 hous straight and just watching not posting anything says more to me than it maby should
On May 24 2023 18:36 Vivax wrote: I'm voting you out btw. Testicals are temporary, the glory of Rome is forever
AND THE NEXT THING YOU ARE ITALIEN. How the fuck things the only Italien one here is fucking town... There are two differnt people Gypsie or rich (Dr. other high paid jobs orr MAFIA)
On May 24 2023 18:41 die_meatbaby wrote: @Koshi @Darthpunk Why the fuck are you talking about beer?? You get one when we finsh this game and voted the mafia out.
Why are you talking about balls and Italians and gypsies and feeding Koshi's snake?
On May 24 2023 18:42 DarthPunk wrote: ok the shit posting is real. IM down to lynch the meat baby, but I'm scared that we are going to end up with too many mis lynch targets at this rate,
If we are looking at things at face value.
1) [UoN]Sentinel – AFK 2) Alakaslam – I think town. 3) Chezinu – Unknown and unknowable 4) Vivax - grey 5) LightningStrike – grey leaning mafia (acknowledging that there is probably meta shit is why grey) Borderline AFK 6) DarthPunk – Town, obviously. 7) Onegu - AFK 8) Koshi - Town 9) die_meatbaby -???? Scum? 10) raynpelikoneet - Town 11) Meapak_Ziphh – Was town now leaning scum? 12) marvellosity - Townish 13) VisceraEyes – Grey
3 Maf 10 VT probably.
Yeah things not looking great if this is a mislynch.
There will be modkills
So this stinky ass known as Chezinu and Seninel get out by modkills? And did´t have waste my fucking vote on an afk shit of toast??????????????????????????
And no i am not scum I am jsut slightly passive aggressive
On May 24 2023 18:40 marvellosity wrote: I’m not sure what’s going on
I believe DP thinks I got extra info, but doesn't think I'm mafia. Granted, I've been trying to be a bit sensible when it felt like you pulled down his pants in front of everyone in the first few pages.
No I think she said you've been at home for two hours reading the thread and not posting.
Which, is extra info she has, and if she has been using it to form reads then it makes her play mildly less confusing I gues.
Also my pants never got pulled down. I have thoroughly maintained my dignity in this thread.
i will pull of pants from all of you and then you can see what i can see.... JUST DICKS AND ASSHOLES
On May 24 2023 18:54 DarthPunk wrote: At this point we are never going to get past the issues.
##vote Die Meat Baby
I hope this experience won't deter you from joining another game in the future.
Yeah vote me out than i go sleep again, but you will see you lose a townie and wish you no luck to win against the mafia. Stop playing like in the past and acept the moods from a girl on her week.
On May 24 2023 18:54 DarthPunk wrote: At this point we are never going to get past the issues.
##vote Die Meat Baby
I hope this experience won't deter you from joining another game in the future.
Yeah vote me out than i go sleep again, but you will see you lose a townie and wish you no luck to win against the mafia. Stop playing like in the past and acept the moods from a girl on her week.
Amazingly I can actually see a world where you are town and this is a mislynch. But at this point the game can't progress with the current issues as they stand. The topic of you and your alignment are taking all the oxygen in the thread.
So unless you can somehow resolve the issues as previously outlined I suggest, if you are town, you try your best to let us all know who you think mafia is and why.
Happily, if you are town and we are mistaken you may still win the game, and there would be some lessons learned all around I imagine.
Just knowing that Vivax is watching this shit right now is not riding anything drives me fucking crazy but i hope this information is not against the rules. Sorry we are living togther and i can´t change the fact of knowing he is sitting in another room on Pc and be silend (Peace of shit) and just watching.
rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
I shure we have somewhere 3th person as mafia but for this i don´t have any specific person in mind (right now)
On May 24 2023 18:54 DarthPunk wrote: At this point we are never going to get past the issues.
##vote Die Meat Baby
I hope this experience won't deter you from joining another game in the future.
Yeah vote me out than i go sleep again, but you will see you lose a townie and wish you no luck to win against the mafia. Stop playing like in the past and acept the moods from a girl on her week.
Amazingly I can actually see a world where you are town and this is a mislynch. But at this point the game can't progress with the current issues as they stand. The topic of you and your alignment are taking all the oxygen in the thread.
So unless you can somehow resolve the issues as previously outlined I suggest, if you are town, you try your best to let us all know who you think mafia is and why.
Happily, if you are town and we are mistaken you may still win the game, and there would be some lessons learned all around I imagine.
Just knowing that Vivax is watching this shit right now is not riding anything drives me fucking crazy but i hope this information is not against the rules. Sorry we are living togther and i can´t change the fact of knowing he is sitting in another room on Pc and be silend (Peace of shit) and just watching.
rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
I shure we have somewhere 3th person as mafia but for this i don´t have any specific person in mind (right now)
Noted.
But when you vote me out you will see that i am town and why i was writing random things aswell. I know you and Koshi, akam... sorry forgot the name.. are town. you wheren´t shure if am trolling or not that´s the reason why i know you three are def. town. Mafia did´t give a shit about my randomness or writing discord bullshit, they found it funny becauce they know you will vote me out for writing like this.
On May 24 2023 18:54 DarthPunk wrote: At this point we are never going to get past the issues.
##vote Die Meat Baby
I hope this experience won't deter you from joining another game in the future.
Yeah vote me out than i go sleep again, but you will see you lose a townie and wish you no luck to win against the mafia. Stop playing like in the past and acept the moods from a girl on her week.
Amazingly I can actually see a world where you are town and this is a mislynch. But at this point the game can't progress with the current issues as they stand. The topic of you and your alignment are taking all the oxygen in the thread.
So unless you can somehow resolve the issues as previously outlined I suggest, if you are town, you try your best to let us all know who you think mafia is and why.
Happily, if you are town and we are mistaken you may still win the game, and there would be some lessons learned all around I imagine.
Just knowing that Vivax is watching this shit right now is not riding anything drives me fucking crazy but i hope this information is not against the rules. Sorry we are living togther and i can´t change the fact of knowing he is sitting in another room on Pc and be silend (Peace of shit) and just watching.
rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
I shure we have somewhere 3th person as mafia but for this i don´t have any specific person in mind (right now)
Noted.
But when you vote me out you will see that i am town and why i was writing random things aswell. I know you and Koshi, akam... sorry forgot the name.. are town. you wheren´t shure if am trolling or not that´s the reason why i know you three are def. town. Mafia did´t give a shit about my randomness or writing discord bullshit, they found it funny becauce they know you will vote me out for writing like this.
So right now you think rayn and vivax are mafia still? what about marvellosity?
Not shure yet. I got out from the first pages here that some of you Koshi and forgot the second one (will check later again) that you where directly a little scared of him. Scared like he scamed you guys in an old game. I checkd his profil and games where he was in i was right and Koshi answerd that the fact i just got in my head was true so he won in an old game. he like switch for me. He´s silend and write less than you or koshi. writing less is for shure more safe as mafia and i would write less as well. But right now i don´t want to make an opinion on him, because he not that super active. If if he almost ignores my random bullshit and just don´t give a fuck seems suspicious. Because he didn´t got triggerd. I wanted to trigger you all, to see who is town. becauce nonsence trigger all kind of people and function very well and easy at the same time. You and Koshi but so much engerie to understand my nonseense writing, meanse you are town. Hope this helps you
On May 24 2023 18:54 DarthPunk wrote: At this point we are never going to get past the issues.
##vote Die Meat Baby
I hope this experience won't deter you from joining another game in the future.
Yeah vote me out than i go sleep again, but you will see you lose a townie and wish you no luck to win against the mafia. Stop playing like in the past and acept the moods from a girl on her week.
Amazingly I can actually see a world where you are town and this is a mislynch. But at this point the game can't progress with the current issues as they stand. The topic of you and your alignment are taking all the oxygen in the thread.
So unless you can somehow resolve the issues as previously outlined I suggest, if you are town, you try your best to let us all know who you think mafia is and why.
Happily, if you are town and we are mistaken you may still win the game, and there would be some lessons learned all around I imagine.
Just knowing that Vivax is watching this shit right now is not riding anything drives me fucking crazy but i hope this information is not against the rules. Sorry we are living togther and i can´t change the fact of knowing he is sitting in another room on Pc and be silend (Peace of shit) and just watching.
rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
I shure we have somewhere 3th person as mafia but for this i don´t have any specific person in mind (right now)
Noted.
But when you vote me out you will see that i am town and why i was writing random things aswell. I know you and Koshi, akam... sorry forgot the name.. are town. you wheren´t shure if am trolling or not that´s the reason why i know you three are def. town. Mafia did´t give a shit about my randomness or writing discord bullshit, they found it funny becauce they know you will vote me out for writing like this.
You use memes to protect yourself smartass. btw you need froglegs?
end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.
Koshi said to me to finding out town is as importent then finding mafia. I did´t think like that. I thought finding town is more importend than finding mafia. When sombody buts so much research and energie in my discord bullshit he has to be town for 100 %. And i don´t want to vote a townie out. Just talking about discord is to fucking scary for mafia so in my mind you are seeing that i am town. But to see who really questing my discord bullshit makes you more town then anythingelse. So finding town makes it easier to finding mafia
On May 24 2023 18:54 DarthPunk wrote: At this point we are never going to get past the issues.
##vote Die Meat Baby
I hope this experience won't deter you from joining another game in the future.
Yeah vote me out than i go sleep again, but you will see you lose a townie and wish you no luck to win against the mafia. Stop playing like in the past and acept the moods from a girl on her week.
Amazingly I can actually see a world where you are town and this is a mislynch. But at this point the game can't progress with the current issues as they stand. The topic of you and your alignment are taking all the oxygen in the thread.
So unless you can somehow resolve the issues as previously outlined I suggest, if you are town, you try your best to let us all know who you think mafia is and why.
Happily, if you are town and we are mistaken you may still win the game, and there would be some lessons learned all around I imagine.
Just knowing that Vivax is watching this shit right now is not riding anything drives me fucking crazy but i hope this information is not against the rules. Sorry we are living togther and i can´t change the fact of knowing he is sitting in another room on Pc and be silend (Peace of shit) and just watching.
rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
I shure we have somewhere 3th person as mafia but for this i don´t have any specific person in mind (right now)
Noted.
But when you vote me out you will see that i am town and why i was writing random things aswell. I know you and Koshi, akam... sorry forgot the name.. are town. you wheren´t shure if am trolling or not that´s the reason why i know you three are def. town. Mafia did´t give a shit about my randomness or writing discord bullshit, they found it funny becauce they know you will vote me out for writing like this.
So right now you think rayn and vivax are mafia still? what about marvellosity?
Not shure yet. I got out from the first pages here that some of you Koshi and forgot the second one (will check later again) that you where directly a little scared of him. Scared like he scamed you guys in an old game. I checkd his profil and games where he was in i was right and Koshi answerd that the fact i just got in my head was true so he won in an old game. he like switch for me. He´s silend and write less than you or koshi. writing less is for shure more safe as mafia and i would write less as well. But right now i don´t want to make an opinion on him, because he not that super active. If if he almost ignores my random bullshit and just don´t give a fuck seems suspicious. Because he didn´t got triggerd. I wanted to trigger you all, to see who is town. becauce nonsence trigger all kind of people and function very well and easy at the same time. You and Koshi but so much engerie to understand my nonseense writing, meanse you are town. Hope this helps you
Problem with this is I’m 38 now
I just want to have fun and win and responding to your irrational posts doesn’t help me do that.
Sorry it was more for myself to find town. I am turning 25 tomorrow. I think age doesn't matter on stuff like this
end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.
did you fucking fact check this DP??? Or are you just being lazy mafia?
On October 15 2016 08:25 Half the Sky wrote: gg wp scum......koshi....you're tearing it up. Reading your filters, it'd been hard to make a case on either you or JAT the way it was going, only thing noticable is that you weren't driving lynches like you normally do as town. But IDK that argument alone would have ever gotten you lynched esp before the lynchbait.
Other factors like Palmar and Marvellosity being afk for long times also nurtured the scum win but especially Koshi played a great game in my perception. Regarding justanothertownie: being the most active scum by far, I think he did a good job in driving a mislynch and averting lynch attempts that were aimed towards him. Still, having access to host QT, I think it would help jat to take a step back from the game and not be ad hom towards his teammates but that's just my impression.
Yeah I saw he didn't win, but you still going hard on him when you go through the posts their. Def. not lazy
end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.
did you fucking fact check this DP??? Or are you just being lazy mafia?
I won that game as mafia and marv was owned
On October 15 2016 06:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
Endgame
scott31337, Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
The mafia is victorious! Congratulations to a flawless victory to...
On October 15 2016 08:01 Skynx wrote: Koshi your scumplay is about to reach Superbia levels of out-thereness
On October 15 2016 08:25 Half the Sky wrote: gg wp scum......koshi....you're tearing it up. Reading your filters, it'd been hard to make a case on either you or JAT the way it was going, only thing noticable is that you weren't driving lynches like you normally do as town. But IDK that argument alone would have ever gotten you lynched esp before the lynchbait.
FYI, next game up for signups will close Monday or Tuesday if you are up for a themed game.
Other factors like Palmar and Marvellosity being afk for long times also nurtured the scum win but especially Koshi played a great game in my perception. Regarding justanothertownie: being the most active scum by far, I think he did a good job in driving a mislynch and averting lynch attempts that were aimed towards him. Still, having access to host QT, I think it would help jat to take a step back from the game and not be ad hom towards his teammates but that's just my impression.
Yeah I saw he didn't win, but you still going hard on him when you go through the posts their. Def. not lazy
On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote: I think Marv is town for the record.
Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason.
Like you on Vivax and rayn?
It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia...
THIS DOES NOT COMPUTE WITH READING CRUISE MAFIA.
SHE IS LYING
1) Shown potential TMI twice 2) Shiting up thread 3) Lying 4) trash reads that don't get updated when confronted
Tell my why you thought directly on the beginning that marv is mafia I didn't read a game where he won, I was just reading his latest games in one of them it was same as here right on the beginning some people directly thinking marv is mafia for (just my opinion) no specific reason. It just seemed to me you guys are a little scared of him so I got through his last few games and didn't read one where he won. But it was you who where riding here that he won against you. First of all I wanted to read through other games to be better prepared on here and I did. Tried a new technic to tell who is town. Believe me or believe me not. I never said you go hard on him in cruise and scamed you and won.. no it just seemed that you are all a little suspect about with no real reason. People always remember old games.
I learned playing Poker from guy. When I started playing with friends and more people. I got in to it. Started playing with money and got better but I always lose against this guy, no matter if I won against people who def better than he is. Because in my Head I know I am always a little fear of him and can't get away this fact. Same situation just other game.
sometimes my mind rises above my head and i got mean (specily in the morning) So sorry if I hurt anybody with my language. I forget that not every body can just turn of the pc and just don´t think about what people in the internet writing, becauce i give never f0ck about it, but other people do so sorry for the mean words. So to everybody don´t take this chat here serioús it´s just game and don´t feel offendet in rl about this.
Still think V is mafia. He is just writing save things and try to be polite. too save...
I always compare things with scenarios i expirenced When i was 16 and back then i smoked some stuff, had it on me when i was walking trough the village. One time 4 Policeman goeing next to me i. I was goeing first to them and ask a silly question would be like never suspect for 16 year old girl. It worked. They didn´t controll me but the other guys at the park got controlled about brokkoli. It was more save to talk to the police then just be quiet. V is making here the same thing. He talks a little to chat here but not to much. He don´t but much efford to get a mafia or tow, because he already know
As mafia i would to the same thing and just be calm and mildly communicative with Townies. I would never be so active as a mafia. would be dump. The more you talk the more they know
Marv is also more like save communivating here. But don´t want to say he is m directly. Still i don´t know what to think about him. Going back and Filter him just makes it more hard for me to believe he is what he seems to be. Right now for me is marv town but could change quickly.
On May 24 2023 23:58 die_meatbaby wrote: wait... when i get lynched my vote against mafia is not counting anymore???
have fun to win this with on lose of town...
You’re voting for an afk. How about a vote on who you think is most likely mafia with your best reasoning?
told you guys i want to play with active player and people who sign in for the game and don´t play. Didn´t know there is a modkiller. So wanted to kick them out by my self
On May 25 2023 00:00 die_meatbaby wrote: i made i vote on v as well
But I‘m not scum for f0cks sake. It‘s like you made a meme read into a real read and are now stuck with it.
Problem is I know you in Rl good. People behave dif in the internet but you behave the same thing when you are waiting on me from work and want to tell me something you did (what you know i don´t want you to do) and you just trying to talk normal and you change when you see i am looking to much in your eyes. Your are def hiding something from me ... means mafia.. sorry babyy but i know you to good. And maybe its cheating as well, but you ask me to sign up with you in this game. So sorry for anlysing your chats here, but you should not play with girl who just knows you
On May 25 2023 00:00 die_meatbaby wrote: i made i vote on v as well
But I‘m not scum for f0cks sake. It‘s like you made a meme read into a real read and are now stuck with it.
Problem is I know you in Rl good. People behave dif in the internet but you behave the same thing when you are waiting on me from work and want to tell me something you did (what you know i don´t want you to do) and you just trying to talk normal and you change when you see i am looking to much in your eyes. Your are def hiding something from me ... means mafia.. sorry babyy but i know you to good. And maybe its cheating as well, but you ask me to sign up with you in this game. So sorry for anlysing your chats here, but you should not play with girl who just knows you
and as i see i am out of the game with 2 votes. But they will find it out anyway that your are scum I just don´t know when they can see that a townie got lynched but at somepoint this get showed to the people who played
On May 25 2023 00:00 die_meatbaby wrote: i made i vote on v as well
But I‘m not scum for f0cks sake. It‘s like you made a meme read into a real read and are now stuck with it.
Problem is I know you in Rl good. People behave dif in the internet but you behave the same thing when you are waiting on me from work and want to tell me something you did (what you know i don´t want you to do) and you just trying to talk normal and you change when you see i am looking to much in your eyes. Your are def hiding something from me ... means mafia.. sorry babyy but i know you to good. And maybe its cheating as well, but you ask me to sign up with you in this game. So sorry for anlysing your chats here, but you should not play with girl who just knows you
My post persona is a lot different from my real persona. I‘m almost the inverse of myself while posting as town. The mafia persona is closer to my true self.
I could find it believable if you had more than the tunnel on me going on. I just found a discrepancy in Slam‘s posts, so why not pay attention to it in a scenario where I‘m not mafia ?
I could not believe you playing this style as town. to fucking insane. never. you did´t even try to find some mafia/town. You would never see you beeing so quiet the hole time. I saw you playing other games. Just no case that your are town
On May 24 2023 19:09 die_meatbaby wrote: rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
Like this is super bullshit and everyone should know it. I couldn't care less about someone saying i am scum because i posted when some other person posted, if i was mafia. Complete trash made up shit.
when i was writing this dicord bullshit you didn´t give a fuck but now you too. Now when i am out. smart
On May 24 2023 19:09 die_meatbaby wrote: rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
Like this is super bullshit and everyone should know it. I couldn't care less about someone saying i am scum because i posted when some other person posted, if i was mafia. Complete trash made up shit.
when i was writing this dicord bullshit you didn´t give a fuck but now you too. Now when i am out. smart
I have absolutely no intention to write Koshi's posts again if i agree with them.
So you are unable to form your own opinion and wrap it up in words and phrases and post it. It always more save to just say yes to somebody who has a strong opinion than to tell your own.
Normaly i would ad another sentence, but I know my bf wouldn´t be happy when i am writing my strong thoughts again
On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote: And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is?
I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only.
It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore.
Pls explain your newbi what I have to do do called townie things. Beeing this agressiv and activ is to risky as mafia... I would just have played a dumb new young girl l.
The fact that V voted on me and didn't think I was mafia are you guys ignoring. He said early I am def town and vote on me because of my language and I got cringed out about it. If am wrong with V as mafia than this is still a move you should think about more. With every other vote I take it as a women war in die in honor for the town. But vote on me for personal reasons is just coward
On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote: And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is?
I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only.
It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore.
I'm referring specifically to Vivax and meat, not the rest of us.
You may not know this but my ex Becca has played here. I don't know if anyone here played with her, she only played one or two games. But I played Video Mafia with her too and my read on Vivax/meat is specifically based on my meta knowledge of that dynamic.
Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened.
Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him.
Again first game. got the role. For me it was yeah of course I am town why should they make the new one mafia to risk. Especially after my bf told me this is like a legendary rematch after years. Found out the roles came automaticly by a software. (information I should get somewhere in rules, because I was never talking to V about the till I got pissed about my language.) Also o just learned by reading here and didn't got explained anything from V expect the fact he wanted to fear me about you guys. Told me you never know with who you playing could be famous people, people working for government and so on, but nothing else. Second he told few seconds before start maybe I need discord if I get mafia, okey so I found out they talk to each other, makes them more hard to find. Was trying to read old games saw a few names from here as well. Just thought beeing less active here means less opinion to find mafia. That's the reason why I think V is M I would never be writing so much and so active if I have do hide, because that's what you do when you hide.
also can i get lynched 4 hours early so i am not getting out vodet by my bf for personal reasen on my birthday. I have already 3 votes so def. out or loss or what ever you guys mean with lynched after lynching you see just activ new townie who tried to play but never play with people who take things personal. This is the only thing i got out of this game so far. And i am not thinking V is mafia because I want to lynch him. I know how he plays differnt games. He acts to differnent to be town
And sorry for the many mistakes in the words, my english is def. not as good as yours. I have all the time a second tap with translate open to check few words or to translate my thougths better. Hope its not to bad. I just talk in english but never have to write in english
On May 25 2023 04:17 Koshi wrote: Can we lynch people on their birthday? That sounds against the rules.
you can and you can vote me out becauce you don´t believe in me beeing town. I am just against vote from V because he don´t think i am mafia and just voting on me of self protection and mostly becauce a was writing some mean words. He vote on me becauce of personal reasons. I was cringed about my snake comment last night, got personly offend from me this morning and just vote becauce he is pissed on me (online not in rl)
On May 25 2023 04:17 Koshi wrote: Can we lynch people on their birthday? That sounds against the rules.
you can and you can vote me out becauce you don´t believe in me beeing town. I am just against vote from V because he don´t think i am mafia and just voting on me of self protection and mostly becauce a was writing some mean words. He vote on me becauce of personal reasons. I was cringed about my snake comment last night, got personly offend from me this morning and just vote becauce he is pissed on me (online not in rl)
On May 25 2023 05:29 marvellosity wrote: First half of filter is really bad newb scumplay, second half would be a really impressive turnaround
tried my own way to find other townies believe it or not. You scared of of new methods or new people? Or just girls? I wouldn´t atack other people so hard when I would be mafia, would be to risky. I am def not that stupied. Anyway I understand why you don´t find new players on this webside (V told me that earlier) You directly offend new players or people who don´t play like you used to see how people play. More mindopend would help you guys for futureplayer and winning.
And as V said, yes i am struggeling a little bit about language but not about words more about abbreviations here. Mostly struggling with V´s writing here. He knows i don´t understand this VIVAX:So you're saying it's too much at once? It's a nonsensical push on me anyways. Same as it was on you. I think it was DP who asked to vig her, not the worst idea. If it's AI I cba to read too much into it on D1 unless she starts shitting up the thread. I also had a myriad of questions probably left unanswered to things I thought made her mafia but I also don't want to overblow her workload considering how much she's probably struggling with the English we use.
At least I'll have the splatters on the wall and not on my hands. Machiavellianism be damned.
this is more nonsence than everything I wrote before (last sent.)
just struggling with his writing everbody esle writes normal and i understand
On May 25 2023 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi i think we should at least consider some other lynch.
It's me you and marv here and every fucking other soul disappeared when we were lynching mebaby and marv said if it comes to that he agrees. Why?
Look. I want her flipped. The closer to deadline the more she changed her "fuck you all" attitude and started to post reasonable and asked town a couple times to not vote her out.
Then as soon as I opened up to not get her lynched, she left while basically emotionally blackmailing town with the exact thing I was advocating for her not to get lynched. (birthday)
I mean... That is pretty treacherous or what's the word.
I can see her last 12 hours giving it all after getting some positive feedback in mafia QT and her not wanting to let her taemmates down.
As town, I more likely would expect her to continue to be vicious and angry. She would be alone and why break character?
Or maybe Vivax his vote and some posts made her revisit her actions.
Like... I don't want to not lynch her for some off chance VE and MZ are mafia together or something.
LS felt ok. He always does the meta stuff. I think he would feel slightly more off as mafia? Not so friendly maybe? Also the pushback on him feels mafia panicking that there are too many confirmed townies.
I am fine with Vivax, rayn, marv
I don't know about VE. My head doesn't want to understand MZ for some reason. Only surface. DP could be a very good mafia. Active and doing slight modifications on thread sentiment. (Like not letting LS be easy townread and was quickly to call Mebaby town, just to 180 as soon as I pushed back on the idea; then hid behind the 180 because you also did an 180)
Then there is the lurkers and slam.
Didn´t ask the town to not vote on me. Just to V because is just a dickmove to vote on someone when he said he don´t think i am mafia (at this time) and just vote becauce of personal reason
It´s def okey for me if you vote on me because you are scared of the way a play as townie to find another townies. Vote on me. I will die in honor for votes like this but not for personal votes just becauce his emtions a stronger than playing fear.
also i thought i was already lynched and didn´t answer here, until the host where writing me that I missunderstood and i can still play till the time is over
On May 25 2023 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi i think we should at least consider some other lynch.
It's me you and marv here and every fucking other soul disappeared when we were lynching mebaby and marv said if it comes to that he agrees. Why?
Look. I want her flipped. The closer to deadline the more she changed her "fuck you all" attitude and started to post reasonable and asked town a couple times to not vote her out.
Then as soon as I opened up to not get her lynched, she left while basically emotionally blackmailing town with the exact thing I was advocating for her not to get lynched. (birthday)
I mean... That is pretty treacherous or what's the word.
I can see her last 12 hours giving it all after getting some positive feedback in mafia QT and her not wanting to let her taemmates down.
As town, I more likely would expect her to continue to be vicious and angry. She would be alone and why break character?
Or maybe Vivax his vote and some posts made her revisit her actions.
Like... I don't want to not lynch her for some off chance VE and MZ are mafia together or something.
LS felt ok. He always does the meta stuff. I think he would feel slightly more off as mafia? Not so friendly maybe? Also the pushback on him feels mafia panicking that there are too many confirmed townies.
I am fine with Vivax, rayn, marv
I don't know about VE. My head doesn't want to understand MZ for some reason. Only surface. DP could be a very good mafia. Active and doing slight modifications on thread sentiment. (Like not letting LS be easy townread and was quickly to call Mebaby town, just to 180 as soon as I pushed back on the idea; then hid behind the 180 because you also did an 180)
Then there is the lurkers and slam.
Didn´t ask the town to not vote on me. Just to V because is just a dickmove to vote on someone when he said he don´t think i am mafia (at this time) and just vote becauce of personal reason
It´s def okey for me if you vote on me because you are scared of the way a play as townie to find another townies. Vote on me. I will die in honor for votes like this but not for personal votes just becauce his emtions a stronger than playing fear.
also i thought i was already lynched and didn´t answer here, until the host where writing me that I missunderstood and i can still play till the time is over
On May 25 2023 06:07 Onegu wrote: Also thanks LS for sending me a message on discord like I asked. So who all is in this game? Hrmm maybe its possible for me to be interested in reading... But how the fuck are there 45 pages already isnt this day 1? Like I know there are spammers here but Holyflare and rsoultin arent in this game what the hell.
nice to see on afk less here. have fun to read everything
On May 25 2023 06:08 Koshi wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
Ok I am following daddy marv. I am too lost and I don't feel good anymore about lynching mebaby.
I know I am very late here, but how do you feel about VE atm?
I don't know. honestly.
I quckly read MZ again and his opposition to chez lynch and aiming for LS And then his mebaby is a total crapshoot comment made me say fuck it. I follow marv.
I would be little brave sheep as M and not offend people here
On May 25 2023 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm here I just don't know what to do, you aren't budging and you and Koshi are gonna bring this one home. No one agrees with me on Vivax and anyone else I'd lynch either isn't in the building or currently posting and not relevant. So I played a little Spore.
I can put a vote on Chezinu, the longer he's gone after avoiding modkill with post the longer I'm sus, but he's at least not in here shitting up the thread so it's meh.
Why haven’t you engaged with me at all about MZ?
Why didn’t you answer my question about Vivax’s motivations vis a vis MB?
There has been plenty for you to get involved with.
Because I wanted to play Spore, I swear I said that.
re: Viv - I did, wasn't the question "Can you see this?" and I said "I considered it but think it's less possible"? I'll just go back and reread, but I need to go get lunch and junk.
I did engage with you about MZ, I said I'd reread if you want me to and you never responded - then he posted so I figured there is content there to judge instead of meta, so I readed his post and it looked fine. He poppin on the meat train and that deflates me, but it's whatever. He COULD be mafia, but I'm feeling townishesque based on what's in the thread.
No, you said you played Spore because there was nothing you wanted to say, the causal relationship is hehe other way round.
Okay if we're being honest, I wanted to play Spore so I disappeared. My partner finally loaded it up and we've been playing it. But mine keeps shitting me off so here I'm back. But to be frank, that's neither here nor there. I've said my piece and given my reasoning and it's sound and yall can jerk each other off as much as you want, it doesn't change the fact that no one is even considering my input and is in fact saying I'm scummy for providing it. So there's no reason for me to be in here posting other than to clear myself and if you're suspicious of me you're doing a shit job of trying to get me lynched so I have no impetus to defend myself either.
So go on marv. Talk about my causal relationship and how it makes me mafia or whatever. Unless you're going to try and get me lynched, which I welcome, then don't worry about when/if I play Spore. It's a shit game anyway.
why are you playing if it is a shit game anyway i just got in becauce he ask me a few times.
On May 25 2023 06:21 Onegu wrote: There is no reason I can find for meatbaby to vote me.
Therefore he is scum.
You are all welcome. ##Unvote
##Vote die_meatbaby
sorry voting on you but you were not in the game.
I already explained that. I want to play with activ gamers and not afk people who don´t write anything. Didn´t know there is a modkiller here anyway. and unvoted you aswell so wtf... read the pages befor you ruin the town
On May 25 2023 06:21 Onegu wrote: There is no reason I can find for meatbaby to vote me.
Therefore he is scum.
You are all welcome. ##Unvote
##Vote die_meatbaby
Game is over we can all go home Onegu solved it in a stroke which I might be getting down the road
what kind of playstyle is this??? sign up... game starts... don´t play in the first 24 hours... come in to late.... and then vote with out reading the posts here? And i thought v is playing bad
On May 25 2023 06:23 marvellosity wrote: rayn, I am all in on MZ for today.
Okay.
I am glad you said that actually, not because i 100% believe you but because i think i can write you as town actually here now (something i was waiting for a while already^^)
I think i would rather lynch either Onegu or Vivax. Onegu for that crap ass vote on you which reads only as "look at me i can do that because i am a boss" and Vivax for not calling super paranoid rayn+marv+DP has to be mafia or some other hit like that which he always does as town.
If you do not agree, i am willing to sheep.
first thing what really help to explain why v is m. He always paranoid. I know this comes from some kind of writing game. wasn´t shure if its this game but as town he would def put more efford in and beeing more paranoid as always. Didn´t want to leek this becauce i wasn´t shure i got paranoid here as well
On May 25 2023 06:23 marvellosity wrote: rayn, I am all in on MZ for today.
Okay.
I am glad you said that actually, not because i 100% believe you but because i think i can write you as town actually here now (something i was waiting for a while already^^)
I think i would rather lynch either Onegu or Vivax. Onegu for that crap ass vote on you which reads only as "look at me i can do that because i am a boss" and Vivax for not calling super paranoid rayn+marv+DP has to be mafia or some other hit like that which he always does as town.
If you do not agree, i am willing to sheep.
first thing what really help to explain why v is m. He always paranoid. I know this comes from some kind of writing game. wasn´t shure if its this game but as town he would def put more efford in and beeing more paranoid as always. Didn´t want to leek this becauce i wasn´t shure i got paranoid here as well
On May 25 2023 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: onegu too boss to be town. vivax too little paranoid to be town.
My paranoia meta doesn‘t apply on D1
Pretty sure I‘ve also been more inquisitive towards different people than you have
i know you want always as much information as possible. But i am afraid of knowing to much and i know i could easly get paranoid as well, that why i try not to get to deep in some stuff. But you would be so more being interest on finding mafia as town. more questions, trying manipulativ things and so on. You are just wanting to less info in this game becauce you already know who is mafia and town as mm (mafia member)
On May 25 2023 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: onegu too boss to be town. vivax too little paranoid to be town.
My paranoia meta doesn‘t apply on D1
Pretty sure I‘ve also been more inquisitive towards different people than you have
i know you want always as much information as possible. But i am afraid of knowing to much and i know i could easly get paranoid as well, that why i try not to get to deep in some stuff. But you would be so more being interest on finding mafia as town. more questions, trying manipulativ things and so on. You are just wanting to less info in this game becauce you already know who is mafia and town as mm (mafia member)
would love to here koshi or db opinion on this. Maybe it helps them understand why i think you are mm
On May 25 2023 06:44 die_meatbaby wrote: i am just scared to leek private things about v. don´t want to hurt anybody here
When in doubt, just make it about something in this thread and not anything else. You don't have meta with Vivax, you wouldn't really be able to use links or previous games effectively, just make you read based on what's in THIS THREAD and you can't go wrong by us OR the mod.
I will go sleep now for real. But i will check V´s old games as well
On May 25 2023 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: onegu too boss to be town. vivax too little paranoid to be town.
This is the most important comment here scene we started. Like this is so true and makes me flip to you as town for now. This is something everybody should read. Thank you for that amazing short god post. I would give you my last beer for that post
On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote: And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is?
I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only.
It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore.
I'm referring specifically to Vivax and meat, not the rest of us.
You may not know this but my ex Becca has played here. I don't know if anyone here played with her, she only played one or two games. But I played Video Mafia with her too and my read on Vivax/meat is specifically based on my meta knowledge of that dynamic.
Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened.
Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him.
Again first game. got the role. For me it was yeah of course I am town why should they make the new one mafia to risk. Especially after my bf told me this is like a legendary rematch after years. Found out the roles came automaticly by a software. (information I should get somewhere in rules, because I was never talking to V about the till I got pissed about my language.) Also o just learned by reading here and didn't got explained anything from V expect the fact he wanted to fear me about you guys. Told me you never know with who you playing could be famous people, people working for government and so on, but nothing else. Second he told few seconds before start maybe I need discord if I get mafia, okey so I found out they talk to each other, makes them more hard to find. Was trying to read old games saw a few names from here as well. Just thought beeing less active here means less opinion to find mafia. That's the reason why I think V is M I would never be writing so much and so active if I have do hide, because that's what you do when you hide.
Like I'm not voting this guys you can't make me.
This makes me so suspicious now. You are seeing how everybody thinks that i am mafia, becauce of the i wanted to find townies. you had pity on me becauce i am newbe and got almost kicked out in the first night. Was a really nice from you, but mafia shouldn`t show empathy. You saw the desperate new girl is getting direktly and just wanted to stop that. Nice from you but makes me think about you as m now
On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote: Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious?
Just putting it out there.
I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please.
Can you seriously explain this Koshi if it was so obviously bad?
And its not like you thought MZ was obviously scum either.
On May 24 2023 20:51 Koshi wrote:
On May 24 2023 20:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 20:34 marvellosity wrote: I’m less happy with a MB vote after her recent posts. Looks like she made an effort, researched, and thought about the game a bit. I would dislike a policy lynch, anyone voting MB needs to do so only because they think she has the best chance of flipping mafia.
MZ still lovely lynch.
Agreed. maybe ill just sheep you.
You guys are so gullible or just mafia.
Holy mozes.
She reads rayn and vivax mafia for the dumbest reason - gets a pass cuz new - She meta reads a situation perfectly if all protagonist are town even though the persons in this situation are mafia in her head. -She gets some flak finally- She invents a reason why she meta read like she did "research and reading filters" - she gets a pass for trying-
lolololololololol
fml
On May 25 2023 06:08 Koshi wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
Ok I am following daddy marv. I am too lost and I don't feel good anymore about lynching mebaby.
This does not scream obvious lynch or extreme confidence , at all and now you are trying to lynch 6 or 7 players because we were wrong.
OK I actually revoke my town read on you. This is too bad.
wow what shall I do. No more townread from DP. lolololololololololololol
Are you mafia?
If you or Koshi are Mafia i am goeing to take the toilette and throw it out of the window. The mafia would be the 2 most activ writer here. I would be so pissed of about that
On May 24 2023 20:34 marvellosity wrote: I’m less happy with a MB vote after her recent posts. Looks like she made an effort, researched, and thought about the game a bit. I would dislike a policy lynch, anyone voting MB needs to do so only because they think she has the best chance of flipping mafia.
MZ still lovely lynch.
Agreed. maybe ill just sheep you.
You guys are so gullible or just mafia.
Holy mozes.
She reads rayn and vivax mafia for the dumbest reason - gets a pass cuz new - She meta reads a situation perfectly if all protagonist are town even though the persons in this situation are mafia in her head. -She gets some flak finally- She invents a reason why she meta read like she did "research and reading filters" - she gets a pass for trying-
end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.
did you fucking fact check this DP??? Or are you just being lazy mafia?
I won that game as mafia and marv was owned
On October 15 2016 06:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
Endgame
scott31337, Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
The mafia is victorious! Congratulations to a flawless victory to...
On October 15 2016 08:01 Skynx wrote: Koshi your scumplay is about to reach Superbia levels of out-thereness
On October 15 2016 08:25 Half the Sky wrote: gg wp scum......koshi....you're tearing it up. Reading your filters, it'd been hard to make a case on either you or JAT the way it was going, only thing noticable is that you weren't driving lynches like you normally do as town. But IDK that argument alone would have ever gotten you lynched esp before the lynchbait.
FYI, next game up for signups will close Monday or Tuesday if you are up for a themed game.
Other factors like Palmar and Marvellosity being afk for long times also nurtured the scum win but especially Koshi played a great game in my perception. Regarding justanothertownie: being the most active scum by far, I think he did a good job in driving a mislynch and averting lynch attempts that were aimed towards him. Still, having access to host QT, I think it would help jat to take a step back from the game and not be ad hom towards his teammates but that's just my impression.
Yeah I saw he didn't win, but you still going hard on him when you go through the posts their. Def. not lazy
Who was going hard on marv? Nobody.
On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote: I think Marv is town for the record.
Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason.
Like you on Vivax and rayn?
It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia...
THIS DOES NOT COMPUTE WITH READING CRUISE MAFIA.
SHE IS LYING
1) Shown potential TMI twice 2) Shiting up thread 3) Lying 4) trash reads that don't get updated when confronted
DMB is lying and obvious scum, and Marv and DP must be scum for not wanting to lynch her.
On May 24 2023 21:19 Koshi wrote: She types X. She gets called out on X She says I read cruise mafia and people were angry at marv and that is why I wrote X
When looking at it, it doesn't make any sense why she would write X after reading cruise mafia.
DP and marv: "seems legit, super town, wouldn't lynch, effort was shown"
After calling us scum, then reacts as if we are both town, because he is framing us as having an analytical mindset which one will only have as town, this is inconsistent and basically makes no sense.
On May 24 2023 21:18 Vivax wrote: That was a good post about marv though. Mafia marv while less motivated always was a super tough lynch.
I don‘t know how she would know that but in case of a genuine guess it was spot on.
Probably from seeing him get pressured for no reason, which is also why I thought mb scum = marv town. Not uncommon that mafia go against the grain when they see a townie under pressure for what they know is nothing.
Instead she says she made the read because she read cruise mafia in which marv was afk town and I won as mafia.
So how does it compute that I am angry at marv for scamming me ???
On May 24 2023 20:56 Koshi wrote: I was not town for her at that time. The other person must be rayn or DP and they were not town for her at that time.
So she went to check some magical previous game in which she found the exact scenario in which mafia!marv owned us and we are still butthurt about it and she writes "new game guis don't be buuthurt" which fucking indicates she reads the attackers as town.
Can someone explain to me what this is about?
On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote: I think Marv is town for the record.
Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason.
Like you on Vivax and rayn?
It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia...
The question is if what she wrote here is saying that marv scammed us means that marv was mafia and we were fooled.
On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 19:44 DarthPunk wrote: Of Marv?
end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.
Then there is this. Which may or may not tie to her previous comment but here she says that in cruise some people were pissed of at marv.
So I do 1+1 and tie both comments together and see the second comment as some sort of explanation why she made the first comment.
Then I checked the cruise game.
And the explanation doesn't hold water because marv wasn't even mafia that game and lost as inactive town.
On May 25 2023 03:37 Koshi wrote: imagine marv being mafia and going for the obvious mafia misslynch MZ and getting flak from town!MZ the entire game for it.
On May 25 2023 03:20 marvellosity wrote: On a more general, higher level about the whole game;
Town are fucked if both rayn and Koshi are mafia. Too much thread control. Fortunately I don’t think that is the case at all. If one is mafia (still don’t think so) then I’m sort of relying on the other to start calling them out.
So I take into account both of their opinion fairly strongly. So while I’m a lot less sure on MB than they are, if I’m going to follow 2 players it’s them, and that may be the right thing to do here.
Your aggression towards me is fairly bizarre though MZ. Assuming you are town, you must at least understand what I’m saying about you. You’re a good enough player to understand that a mafia playing ‘cleanly’ is very much a thing. So the fact you disregard that is weird.
Why are you just randomly throwing suspicion on them, do you think they're not town? What purpose does this serve other than to do exactly what I accused you of doing yesterday which is muddle up the thread.
My aggression from you stems from frustration because I know you good enough as a town player to have real reads at this point in the game and instead all you've got is a weak ass case against me which you're now defending with yet more WIFOM. I'm really left with no other conclusion that you're scum.
Also your VE progression is terrible, going from "not suspicious" to "something's not right" without explaining what you think about it isn't right is just more of the constant baseless and vague accusations I've come to expect from you this game.
I'm not really interested in reading any more posts by you unless they contain clear cases backed up with explanations to your thought process as to why you find someone scummy. I'm tired minimal effort.
This is a pretty townie post regardless of marv his alignment. MZ is like dafuq dude I am town and I am all you got?
On May 25 2023 03:20 marvellosity wrote: On a more general, higher level about the whole game;
Town are fucked if both rayn and Koshi are mafia. Too much thread control. Fortunately I don’t think that is the case at all. If one is mafia (still don’t think so) then I’m sort of relying on the other to start calling them out.
So I take into account both of their opinion fairly strongly. So while I’m a lot less sure on MB than they are, if I’m going to follow 2 players it’s them, and that may be the right thing to do here.
Your aggression towards me is fairly bizarre though MZ. Assuming you are town, you must at least understand what I’m saying about you. You’re a good enough player to understand that a mafia playing ‘cleanly’ is very much a thing. So the fact you disregard that is weird.
Why are you just randomly throwing suspicion on them, do you think they're not town? What purpose does this serve other than to do exactly what I accused you of doing yesterday which is muddle up the thread.
My aggression from you stems from frustration because I know you good enough as a town player to have real reads at this point in the game and instead all you've got is a weak ass case against me which you're now defending with yet more WIFOM. I'm really left with no other conclusion that you're scum.
Also your VE progression is terrible, going from "not suspicious" to "something's not right" without explaining what you think about it isn't right is just more of the constant baseless and vague accusations I've come to expect from you this game.
I'm not really interested in reading any more posts by you unless they contain clear cases backed up with explanations to your thought process as to why you find someone scummy. I'm tired minimal effort.
This is a pretty townie post regardless of marv his alignment. MZ is like dafuq dude I am town and I am all you got?
Do you have anything else on MZ town-wise. I’m fairly keen not to spend my time tunnelling a townie for however long if that is indeed the case.
No sadly not. I don't think he is townie tbh. I just think he is such an obvious lynch that I don't know if he was mafia he would just open so badly we all gut read him mafia.
Backtracks with any pressure at all from marv, who literally he was calling mafia posts ago, with no explanation or reason for this change.
On May 25 2023 03:59 Koshi wrote: Must say MZ when MZ is in the thread he engages with his reads and is figuring things out. First with VE and then marv. And all those interactions were pretty ok. Legit stuff, pressuring the person he is talking to and try to figure them out.
On May 25 2023 04:17 Koshi wrote: Can we lynch people on their birthday? That sounds against the rules.
Koshi abcktracking because its her birthday??
SO now, the obv mafia DMB is not the lynch because it is her birthday, and because Chezinu is a question mark. Does this sound like someone who was rabidly calling her obvious scum and a lair and other players scum for considering other options?
On May 25 2023 06:08 Koshi wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
Ok I am following daddy marv. I am too lost and I don't feel good anymore about lynching mebaby.
All of a sudden, Koshi is sheeping marv, someone he called mafia, onto MZ someone he called town or townie, for what I can see no real reasons aside from maybe consolodation, but even then was not directing the vote onto Chezinu who ostensibly he thought should be lynched not long prior to this massive backflip.
At this point he leaves the thread, openly states he hasn't read any of the posts that he has missed and comes back with:
On May 25 2023 16:00 Koshi wrote: I must thank you for making this game memorable. This is truly amazing. Never could I have imagined that a wagon with marv, koshi,rayn and Vivax could be overtrown after the D1 we had. But you did it. Even more amazing if you did this with 3 mafia on MZ and MZ town.
That's sickly amazing. To fuck over town leaders and most active people and get the town doctor lynch.
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote: That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.
He wants to lynch us all, without cause or analysis, over a mislynch he clearly cared little about, and had no stated reasoning behind his vote other than he was lost and wanted to sheep Marv,
I realize this will probably get dismissed because of meta or feel reads, and I understand that, But I hope that the town will at least consider how very wrong Koshi has been playing since the first part of the game, particularly his filter after I suggested I would sheep MZ, and at least reconsider him when considering how the games plays out in the days ahead.
WE can all agree that he is a skilled player, he could be doing this as scum, and the dramatic fall off in play, and actively trying to determine people's alignment, to protecting his thread presence and "circle" of close players is bad.
Bad bad bad.
koshi can´t handle the way how i play as a newbe. Tu much effort, or just the fact that I trolled a little bit in the beginning with discord to find my towncolleges. mafia was at this moment just quiet and laughing about my theorie and town people tried to find my point in this randomshitness. Was easier to me to find townies like you and koshi. I think i have to be voted out to make koshi a pretty nice suprise that he lost another townie.
Anyways I am now really not shure about VE. He was like i don´t vote that after i explained how i tried to find townpeople and was the second person after voting on Vivax. Do mafia know he was doctor? or to they just know that he was town?
also not happy about rayn by the way. in the night he changed his mind as well and voted on vivax. Reason from him was that V isn´t as paranoid as in the other games. Same reason why i thought he is mafia, but didn´t write it becauce i didn´t want to leek something from his personalty in rl. Why did he do did just in the night from europ. Like he know koshi and dp where sleeping and that V and me also were very tiered at this point.
On May 25 2023 19:44 marvellosity wrote: Mafia don’t know which townies have which roles, MB
but still tried people to vote on v instead of MZ and not science the begining more like in the last few hours before the voting finished. Also he had so much compassion on me when i tried to offend my self. And wrote : guys you can´t make me vote on this. IF i was a doctor i would give her save. Like this soundss so obv as mafia. He see that a new girl here get 4 votes and is town, just tried another way to play and hat pity on me.
On May 25 2023 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: onegu too boss to be town. vivax too little paranoid to be town.
after this post V got many votes
Do you think there was some hypnotic message hidden behind that message that made others vote Vivax?
no not really. Was smart from him. At the start of the game when I was saying he and V are mafia. He was never saying something that make people think about V as m. After we talked at this point i was writing somewhere that i would easy switch my opinion from him to town just need more writing stuff. after that he going to post this and all people start to be against V
On May 25 2023 20:15 marvellosity wrote: Can I just note for one moment that confirmed town Vivax had almost the exact same case on MZ that I did.
Give it a think.
I already thought about it and i don´t have a good feeling about MZ either. But also think he playes with VE
VE was the one who didn´t want to vote on me and had pity on me. But at this time it looked bad for MZ and VE was trying to convience more people to vote on Vivax than MZ
On May 25 2023 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: onegu too boss to be town. vivax too little paranoid to be town.
after this post V got many votes
Do you think there was some hypnotic message hidden behind that message that made others vote Vivax?
no not really. Was smart from him. At the start of the game when I was saying he and V are mafia. He was never saying something that make people think about V as m. After we talked at this point i was writing somewhere that i would easy switch my opinion from him to town just need more writing stuff. after that he going to post this and all people start to be against V
I wonder what rayn his secret is. I typed Vivax is town and for some reason that didn't stop 6 people to vote for him.
Do you think rayn arranges his words in a special way to make it more convincing?
Yes think about it if have now no idea if he actl. t or m
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.
I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.
From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.
I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.
Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.
first post = amazing post right now i think VE, MZ, are m but could also inkl. marv or rayn. i am just shure that not both of them are m just one
The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote: The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.
sorry mistake ... he could be mafia when he not dies in the first night
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote: The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.
I am glad we kept you.
just because i said you are one of the strongest player. I just repeat V´s words with the first sentence here.
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote: The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.
I am glad we kept you.
just because i said you are one of the strongest player. I just repeat V´s words with the first sentence here.
You found a great partner in V. A very intelligent man.
typical man ego here but not intelligent man you mean intelligent god with jesus cock on the floor
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.
I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.
Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.
On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.
I will need to analyse this further.
So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.
So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?
I shall need to contact the Brown for this.
Have you read all the posts yet?
I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.
The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush. I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.
Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.
Or ask questions about it
Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.
i think you are right koshi should read what was writtin at this time take 10 min maybe. instead of decorating your shit like a litte princess you could read that.
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.
I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.
Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.
On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.
I will need to analyse this further.
So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.
So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?
I shall need to contact the Brown for this.
Have you read all the posts yet?
I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.
The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush. I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.
Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.
Or ask questions about it
Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.
Not having read it and all.
sorry postet it in the quote not after my mistake
i think you are right koshi should read what was writtin at this time take 10 min maybe. instead of decorating your shit like a litte princess you could read that.
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.
I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.
Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.
On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.
I will need to analyse this further.
So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.
So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?
I shall need to contact the Brown for this.
Have you read all the posts yet?
I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.
The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush. I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.
Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.
Or ask questions about it
Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.
Not having read it and all.
sorry postet it in the quote not after my mistake
i think you are right koshi should read what was writtin at this time take 10 min maybe. instead of decorating your shit like a litte princess you could read that.
I won't do both most likely.
okey you don´t want to read it... then tell whats your opinionen on VE. After what happend there was making my opinion on Ve change for 180°
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.
I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.
From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.
I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.
Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.
Not exerted any influence? My target would have been lynched if not for some crazy EOD shenanigans and the fact i was asleep. How Much more influence do you want?
if you are town you will die in the first night for shure. Mafia are to scared of good players like you, so they make you die, because they know people would vote me out directly and so we lose 3 town people in D1 N1 and D2. If you don´t die in this night you are more likly to be mafia (for me) and people would vote on you on d2
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.
I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.
From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.
I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.
Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.
Not exerted any influence? My target would have been lynched if not for some crazy EOD shenanigans and the fact i was asleep. How Much more influence do you want?
if you are town you will die in the first night for shure. Mafia are to scared of good players like you, so they make you die, because they know people would vote me out directly and so we lose 3 town people in D1 N1 and D2. If you don´t die in this night you are more likly to be mafia (for me) and people would vote on you on d2
... ... ... Can I please get shot so I can see marv defending himself against MZ, TTT and Mebaby while DP is cackling maniacally in the corner?
On May 25 2023 21:19 Koshi wrote: Like TTT comes in and calls marv an empty shell/imposter and at the same time mebaby calls marv so strong town that if he doesn't die he should be lynched.
Of course they don't talk to each other and tomorrow they will try to vote marv out.
That seems a tad hyperbolic to me. I thought asking questions was good?
I am saying that I don't understand why you are grilling marv while there is somebody in the thread that has the EXACT OPPOSITE of your opinion and you don't talk to her.
On May 25 2023 23:41 Koshi wrote: Fuck. So if he is mafia they didn't even vote together and there is no mafia on the MZ train.
Yeah townies do all kind of stupid shit all the time, just look at the last game vote count, Koshi town leader has good reads anmd what the fuck townies do? They develop not one but TWO shit wagons in the last hours and mafia!rayn is happily sitting with angry Koshi on his scumbuddy
tbh that was less bad than this. How this happened is a mystery to me.
I have no idea. Is Darthpunk semi blaming me(????) for his vote?
Yup it is extremely special. You opened the gate bro. You let it happen.
I don't know how you will sleep tonight knowing you killed Vivax.
On May 26 2023 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's amazing how Darthpunk is going full Holyflare after a mistake he himself made. I have never ever encouraged anyone to vote for Vivax, the only thing close is when i am considering between MZ/Onegu/Vivax, and even there i am talking directly to marv and noone else. That happens about 4 hours before i leave the tread and after that i continuously say i don't think vivax will flip mafia and i am going to stay on MZ. Yet somehow Darthpunk (and mebaby) have somehow come to conclusion i almost lead a lynch on Vivax??? And now apparently Koshi is mafia??? Because DP voted wrong. It's pretty amazing to read this.
Darthpunk please don't go full Holyflare if youre town.
Sure you have you made the one post where you was writing Ogenu acting to strong to be town and Vivax is less paranoid than normal to be town... this post made change minds from other players. You didn't vote on V but this post got fucking important at this time. And you watched how people where voting for V after this instead of MZ.
On May 26 2023 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's amazing how Darthpunk is going full Holyflare after a mistake he himself made. I have never ever encouraged anyone to vote for Vivax, the only thing close is when i am considering between MZ/Onegu/Vivax, and even there i am talking directly to marv and noone else. That happens about 4 hours before i leave the tread and after that i continuously say i don't think vivax will flip mafia and i am going to stay on MZ. Yet somehow Darthpunk (and mebaby) have somehow come to conclusion i almost lead a lynch on Vivax??? And now apparently Koshi is mafia??? Because DP voted wrong. It's pretty amazing to read this.
Darthpunk please don't go full Holyflare if youre town.
Sure you have you made the one post where you was writing Ogenu acting to strong to be town and Vivax is less paranoid than normal to be town... this post made change minds from other players. You didn't vote on V but this post got fucking important at this time. And you watched how people where voting for V after this instead of MZ.
But don't feel offend I am more on VE and MZ right now. Mostly VE he had pity for me because he know I was town and just saw how he tried to protect me as newbe because there was a time where you where thinking I was mafia. He was writing he would not vote on me. This is just empathy what he was showing to protect a newbe. He know you guys want to vote me out on D1 latest D2 so they help me be you would lose more townies
On May 26 2023 20:19 marvellosity wrote: So it was either a shot on Koshi to protect DP/VE from his wrath, as like you say a town/town Koshi/DP fight is great for mafia.
Or it could simply be they thought Koshi was the least lynchable - why Koshi over you as well?
Simplest explanation is Koshi most right and therefore most dangerous?
Yes Koshi must be MORE right on something at least. I can't think other options than DP/VE/mebaby.
why should I vote on VE then?
And btw sorry for beeing this less active still fucking hangover from last night.
On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote: TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit. Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared. Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town. Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it. DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote: First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........
Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote: That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.
Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.
Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.
And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.
What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.
I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.
Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.
I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game.
I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote: First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........
Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote: That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.
Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.
Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.
And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.
What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.
I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.
Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.
I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game.
I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)
You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right?
dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here:
On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote: It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them.
On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote: Vivax has your friend played previously?
She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ
I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.
Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.
I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.
I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day
Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too
she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem:
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote: Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town? Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town
But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me
When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1) as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options. Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town. Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods. VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that.
First of all sorry for being so inactive was celebrating my bd and had to work with hangover.
At the begining i made two mistake, First one was considering of privat thoughts that V is mafia. Already told why and i am sorry for that was a big mistake. Can explain again if you want to. Second mistake i went was this list. Did´t check it perfectly as i should. Third thing was I didn´t know that the roles get automaticly to the players and that they are not selced. So for me was the message Your are Vanilla Town like 100 % sure. I am sorry for not knowing that, so I was writing here with so much conifdence because of that I thought you all know that the newbe only can be town... Big mistake as well
For now i make a new list with my thoughts 1) TankTopTiger Town, because he came here and the way he writes and thinks is like other than the other players here but makes me sure for Town. 2) Alakaslam No opinen right now, but more like town 3) Chezinu Town 4) Vivax lynched day 1. Sorry baby for voting on you for privat thoughts 5) LightningStrike Town (for now) 6) DarthPunk Could be mafia. Maybe him or marv but not both. They are not in the same boat 7) Onegu not activ, what should I say about it 8) Koshi killed night 1 sorry but told he is town 9) die_meatbaby doesn´t matter because you all have to make your own opinen about me, even if it seems bad for me right now 10) raynpelikoneet def Mafia At the D1 i was writing V and you are Mafia. You where pissed and tried to protect your self. Few hours before the voting was ending. I made a post where I said I would change my mind on you but not on V. After this you made an fucking importent and smart post. "Onegu is perfoming to strong for being Town and Vivax is to less paronied for being Town." This changed like everything. I was pointing out that you where just writing my thougths of V. THAT WAS MY ONLY REASON OF THINKING V WAS M (big mistake and sorry for all my Townies. I learn from mistake. Thats life) I didn´t want to leek a private thing about that Paronied stuff of V. At this point VE was tryieng to get votes on V only on V. This makes me so fucking suspicious. Like this was a perfectly played move from you and VE. Just amzing. At this point after Voting I just saw what you two where doeing here. The fact that you two played this so perfectly fascinated me. Atm I realesd with how much effort you all play and how fucking accurate i have to be here. How accurate i should read the posts here. This game is def. more harder than I ever thought. This point made me realse that I shouldn´t just write my thoughts. I have do do more. Have to think things more through than I ever did in my life. 11) Meapak_Ziphh killed night 1 Sorry for saying you where m 12) marvellosity Also could be both he write in like a save way but wouldn´t vote on him right know not sure if he is with VE and Rayn in the MPG (Mafia Pussy Gang) 13) VisceraEyes 1000000% Mafia. Like nothing else. On D1 one I did make a list like this in made mistake because of not controlling everything and didn´t put much efford in it. Mistakes make people seem like mafia. Big mistake from me again. He answering on Koshi who where on this point like i am mafia and i already got 3 votes on me at this point on my first day, also birthday and first game. He tried to protect me. for Towns who thought of mafia on me. He got weak. He had compassion on me. Wrote under my post "Guys you can´t make vote on this..." Still thanks for protecting me at this moment, because as mafia you realized what beginner mistake I did and had pity on me. Nice but big mistake from you. protecting a new girl is nice but still not good for you Mafiastatus
Today I will go early to bed and try to get every drop of alcohol that still in my body and ruining me out. Tomorrw (european time) i have day off and i will show you that I can play here with the same or maybe more efford you put here. Will try to think in other ways and not make the same mistakes I made on d1. I should not just have one reason for somebody to vote or think he is mafia. I understand now. I have to scrutinize ever post from every person here. No matter if i am sure that he is def Town. I have to get more mind opening here and questening every post from every person... eyery vote... the way your are writing. I didn´t read it like I should. That was the biggest mistake I made so far and I am sorry for Vanilla Town. Sorry for Koshi. Sorry for all Villagers from my town. I will give my best now to let the MPG not to win. We already lost our Doctor. We lost 2 other people and I will try to find every other person from Town, because we will not lose against this Pussys
On May 27 2023 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you thought MZ is town?
I am sorry but i can't figure out what you are thinking if you are not saying it.
When you saw Vivax flipped town -- and the vote was really close -- didn't a thought run through your head that the other lynch actually could be mafia?
I was thinking this way, but this was beginer mistake from me as well.
On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote: TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit. Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared. Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town. Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it. DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this:
On May 26 2023 12:24 DarthPunk wrote: LS why do you think Koshi was killed?
for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote: First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........
Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote: That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.
Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.
Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.
And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.
What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.
I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.
Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.
I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game.
I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)
Which he did reply to my post here:
On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote: First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........
Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote: That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.
Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.
Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.
And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.
What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.
I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.
Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.
I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game.
I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)
You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right?
dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here:
On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote: It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them.
and continued here:
On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote: Vivax are you scared to write something?
and tried to act confident on lynching him here:
On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote: Vivax has your friend played previously?
She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ
I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.
Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.
I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.
I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day
Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too
she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem:
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote: Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town? Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town
But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me
When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1) as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options. Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town. Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods. VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that.
First of all sorry for being so inactive was celebrating my bd and had to work with hangover.
At the begining i made two mistake, First one was considering of privat thoughts that V is mafia. Already told why and i am sorry for that was a big mistake. Can explain again if you want to. Second mistake i went was this list. Did´t check it perfectly as i should. Third thing was I didn´t know that the roles get automaticly to the players and that they are not selced. So for me was the message Your are Vanilla Town like 100 % sure. I am sorry for not knowing that, so I was writing here with so much conifdence because of that I thought you all know that the newbe only can be town... Big mistake as well
For now i make a new list with my thoughts 1) TankTopTiger Town, because he came here and the way he writes and thinks is like other than the other players here but makes me sure for Town. 2) Alakaslam No opinen right now, but more like town 3) Chezinu Town 4) Vivax lynched day 1. Sorry baby for voting on you for privat thoughts 5) LightningStrike Town (for now) 6) DarthPunk Could be mafia. Maybe him or marv but not both. They are not in the same boat 7) Onegu not activ, what should I say about it 8) Koshi killed night 1 sorry but told he is town 9) die_meatbaby doesn´t matter because you all have to make your own opinen about me, even if it seems bad for me right now 10) raynpelikoneet def Mafia At the D1 i was writing V and you are Mafia. You where pissed and tried to protect your self. Few hours before the voting was ending. I made a post where I said I would change my mind on you but not on V. After this you made an fucking importent and smart post. "Onegu is perfoming to strong for being Town and Vivax is to less paronied for being Town." This changed like everything. I was pointing out that you where just writing my thougths of V. THAT WAS MY ONLY REASON OF THINKING V WAS M (big mistake and sorry for all my Townies. I learn from mistake. Thats life) I didn´t want to leek a private thing about that Paronied stuff of V. At this point VE was tryieng to get votes on V only on V. This makes me so fucking suspicious. Like this was a perfectly played move from you and VE. Just amzing. At this point after Voting I just saw what you two where doeing here. The fact that you two played this so perfectly fascinated me. Atm I realesd with how much effort you all play and how fucking accurate i have to be here. How accurate i should read the posts here. This game is def. more harder than I ever thought. This point made me realse that I shouldn´t just write my thoughts. I have do do more. Have to think things more through than I ever did in my life. 11) Meapak_Ziphh killed night 1 Sorry for saying you where m 12) marvellosity Also could be both he write in like a save way but wouldn´t vote on him right know not sure if he is with VE and Rayn in the MPG (Mafia Pussy Gang) 13) VisceraEyes 1000000% Mafia. Like nothing else. On D1 one I did make a list like this in made mistake because of not controlling everything and didn´t put much efford in it. Mistakes make people seem like mafia. Big mistake from me again. He answering on Koshi who where on this point like i am mafia and i already got 3 votes on me at this point on my first day, also birthday and first game. He tried to protect me. for Towns who thought of mafia on me. He got weak. He had compassion on me. Wrote under my post "Guys you can´t make vote on this..." Still thanks for protecting me at this moment, because as mafia you realized what beginner mistake I did and had pity on me. Nice but big mistake from you. protecting a new girl is nice but still not good for you Mafiastatus
@raynpelikoneet @VisceraEyes I would like to see a anwer from both of you
On May 27 2023 09:13 TankTopTiger wrote: If vivax was someone who prided themselves in being discordant, I can imagine them having put those ideas in MB's head, offering some support for the notion that MB is an overperforming red noobie. But if that's not the case, I find it difficult to imagine they would go all-out like this on their first game without anyone influencing their approach in that direction.
IIRC, at some point Vivax said they were "being more insane than even them" which sounds like what someone who otherwise plays a trolly style would say.
I am not talking to V in RL about the game. Against the rules. Till now we are not talking about it till now and till the game ends or I am lynched or dead. I am not being influenced from him. Fair play only.
On May 28 2023 11:21 DarthPunk wrote: By the way Rayn. Rember that podcast that we laughed about Marv not calling people mafia but smelly and stinky and shit.
He has done that exact thing with me this game. And actually played very similarly.
And I think Marv would be motivated to try hard with ve on his team.
So I’m pretty sure he is mafia and have thought that for a bit.
This actually happened, Marv when he played as active mafia back in the day, had a couple of tells.
1.) he soft pushed people while not outright calling them mafia, and instead stinky/smelly
On May 26 2023 11:11 DarthPunk wrote: So I am going to address the shit where Rayn thinks I am soft blaming him for the lynch on vivax, and I guess I sort of am, (although I also take responsibility for being wrong/bad or whatever makes you feel better) because from my perspective I was very open to being on either wagon at the time.
On May 25 2023 08:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:13 Onegu wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:08 marvellosity wrote: Onegu, less blabla, more desperately trying to make yourself useful - I thank you
Love you Marv but you should know that is not likely to happen. I got the message 30 minutes ago that this game started.
Maybe this is helpful
##Vote: Marvellosity
I want marv dead more than anyone in this thread but I don't like this .
I mean like shiiiittt...
Yeah this is bad. lol.
On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote: I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.
On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote: I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.
Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad
Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal?
On May 25 2023 08:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote: I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.
Hmph....
I fell more strongly about a Vivax lynch. I also think you are looking better recently so that's good. :D
On May 25 2023 08:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote: I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.
Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad
Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal?[/QUOTE
On May 25 2023 08:37 LightningStrike wrote: Hey just got home from dinner and I see a Vivax train is started -_- Seriously though I don't like it and it formed very fast too like wtf?????
I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline.
I don't know enough about his meta game to say that low activity is alignment indicative but I will say I've hated how all of his reads are either "town" or "null"
Also his above post has the exact same vibe as this one:
On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote: And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest.
Who do you want to lynch LS? Since all the wagons are forming "too fast"
Ok I like this post, but it could be argued that I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. could also apply to you.
On May 25 2023 08:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: AND TO BE CLEAR ONEGU IS NOT EVEN MY TOP SCUM READ.
I feel like people aren't reading my posts clearly. I'd still rather lynch Vivax or LS or even Marv like I've been saying for a while. But again, town can play bad, one of my current suspects could flip town, Marv could wow me and turn into the towniest townie who ever town'd and I'd almost immediately slot Onegu into that spot.
I really don’t get how you can think Marv is a good lynch at this point.
Because I was open, and I had a strong town read in the thread with me, I asked rayn several times why I should not be on vivax.
On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote: Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious?
On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote: Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious?
Just putting it out there.
I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please.
On May 25 2023 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote: Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious?
Just putting it out there.
I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please.
Ok let me rephrase. Tell me (why) you won’t lynch vivax
On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked.
Why bad? Genuinely curious.
youre voting wrong
In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong?
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked.
Why bad? Genuinely curious.
youre voting wrong
In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong?
because things may and will change in hours between the posts.
OK, that is fine.
But that is the reason you gave for not voting him. If there are other reasons since then, could you let me know what they are?
I am also voting Vivax, so if that vote is wrong, hen I would like to know why.
This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.
Like I was genuinely frustrated that I wasn't given clarity at the time when I was repeatedly trying to get some.
On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.
Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn?
VE posts this interpretation
On May 25 2023 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.
Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn?
Because from his perspective it's optimal play, mafia whoever they are are going to try and influence the vote IF his reads are right. Taking his vote out of the manipulable votes reduces mafia's power to affect the outcome IF his reads are right. And he's reinforcing anyone who values his reads that he's not moving his vote so they shouldn't either in the case that I keep trying to lynch Vivax.
Which rayn says is very smart post. So I take that to be the reason that Rayn is giving for not wanting to lynch Vivax. I actually don't like this reason because it prevents me from being able to play the game, if every lynch is already decided by the euros before a lynch, so in my mind I discount it.
On May 25 2023 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Or he's mafia and knows it's a mislynch. Take your pick DP.
I don't think he is mafia. I also am not convinced MZ is town, I'm just trying to understand the thought processes going on.
I am really open to either. I just want some fucking clarity and engagement on the topic. Which I was not provided.
On May 25 2023 10:39 DarthPunk wrote: Day One Vote Count
Trying to figure out where the scum are and the town reads are. ( a major criticisim later) At this point Rayn has left the thread.
I am posting this and then dropping the topic mainly because I want to:
1.) be clear around my thinking at the time of the wagon on vivax forming
2.) clarify that yes, if Rayn had given me any strong reason to vote MZ over Vivax when we were interacting in the thread prior to the lynch I would have done so.
3.) Point out that I don't think it was as clear and obvious as people are making it out to be prior to the lynch, and if it was, then some clear communication about that fact would have changed the outcome.
I am struggling to figure out this is what DP is interested in close to deadline N1?
Like sure. But these are the questions.
1. Why did he hard townread MB when the rest of town (especially marv, Vivax, rayn) did not feel that way 2. Why did he townread TTT when neither of us felt that way 3. How did he at all have too many townreads during N1 I think it was when I had 2
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote: The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.
If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.
What's your opinion on people now?
Tell me what the point is then
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote: [quote] How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
Would you want me to be lynched right now?
“Which thankfully I’m not”
If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.
Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol
Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.
I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.
I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.
But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.
Also, please read again the passage of play where I start calling DP mafia. He was not calling me mafia before that. He tells me he knew my scumread on him was coming - he knew he'd misplayed. Tell you what, if I'm town in DP's position there, as far as I'm concerned I've just listened to a very likely townie (rayn) and voted for mafia (VE). I'd be feeling nervous (about the lynch to come) but happy. I wouldn't be feeling guilty - "I knew this read on me was coming". The inherent guilt of being mafia. Then the way he starts calling me mafia - "FWIW I think marv could be mafia". Of course he just happens to wait until I have called him mafia, and then very casually says "FWIW".
None of anything of what DP has done is how a townie thinks. Lynch him with fire
I will not defend myself any further - this is my position. I will take no questions from DP because he is mafia. TTT - if you are just going to take the position that I am mafia spewing bs, fine. But assuming you are town, please go back, read my thoughts here again as if they are legitimately townie, and think about them. If you don't believe me, fine. Lynch me and then come back to this post.
The bolded is really interesting and basically confirms marv is mafia ( i was having small doubts by his emotions when rayn called him out)
But marv should know that this is coming because he was soft pushing me since day one, without calling me mafia, (massive scum tell) and this is actually the source of Confirmed town MZ's mafia read on marv
On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote: It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them.
Well rayn definitely isn’t hiding, so what do you mean?[/QUOTE
On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote: The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here.
If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time?
On May 23 2023 20:18 marvellosity wrote: It has to be the plan to get meatbaby to explain their thoughts wherever possible. If town, will eliminate a lynch that mafia will have pencilled in. If not, great.
Is this a serious point? If so can you expand upon your thinking here?
Of course it’s serious, and it’s self explanatory. Which bit aren’t you getting?
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote: The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.
If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote: The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.
If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.
What's your opinion on people now?
Tell me what the point is then
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote: [quote] I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.
If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.
What's your opinion on people now?
Tell me what the point is then
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?
I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote: [quote] Tell me what the point is then
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?
I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?
I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.
If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote: [quote] How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?
I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?
I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.
If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?
I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote: [quote] Tell me what the point is then
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
Would you want me to be lynched right now?
“Which thankfully I’m not”
If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.
Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol
On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta
If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?
If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.
I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.
Goodio?
It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.
And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second. But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times.
I already explained why I think you and Vivax are mafia. In the first few pages you can see that you too where always answering at the same time and being off at the same time. So I only can think of you too where writing your plans on discord how you can hide. I still not sure who is the 3th mafia member, but we will find out.
So you think me and Vivax were writing our thoughts on the thread at the same time because we were wrting also onb discord on how to hide?
And you after that said you are sure Vivax is mafia, like completely and utterly sure. Why does that not apply to me as per your earlier investigations? And how are you so sure?
You two stopped writing here for the same time, looked like you two where both something doing for the same 10 min and coming back here at the same time. I just preferred to vote Vivax out first because he brought me in this game.
Have you entertained the possibility of coincidence?
Marv the socratic method only works if you actually come up with a conclusion:
It doesn't feel like you're trying to draw out reasoning, it feels like you're just filling space by asking questions and then not really offering interpretations on the answers you get. You've had several people respond to your questions and rather than make meaning of the information that they've given you just continue asking questions. I'm all for asking questions but at some point your posts just start to sound like this:
On May 23 2023 22:10 marvellosity wrote: If I had to answer the question, it’s a lot of text to not say very much or actively silly stuff about killing lurkers. Text for the sake of writing text.
It's really funny to me that you wrote this post because I absolutely hate when people do what you're talking about, I call it Contributing Without Contributing and I consider it a fairly decent scumtell for most players, regardless of how experienced or inexperienced they are. Given the fact that you really haven't come to any real conclusions based on your questions, it's starting to feel as though they're simply a method to create the appearance of activity without having to actually provide concrete reads or say something of substance.
I really wouldn't have a problem with constant questions if you did something with it but you still haven't generated any real reads from it which is a warning sign to me.
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote: The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.
If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.
What's your opinion on people now?
Tell me what the point is then
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.
If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.
Would you want me to be lynched right now?
“Which thankfully I’m not”
If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.
Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol
Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.
I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.
I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.
But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.
All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.
This is when I started to suspect Marv, and this is why the post below from marv is not genuine.
On May 23 2023 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv do you think DP is mafia or town atm?
Don’t know
This line of posts bothers me because it feels like you're setting up for a soft push on DarthPunk but you're not willing to actually stand behind it. You constantly undercut your own read, to me that's scummy. Either stand behind your read or don't reveal it until you have more certainty, otherwise it feels like mafia leaving behind little post-it notes to muddle up the thread, you'll be easily positioned to vote DP but you'll never have to accept responsibility if he flips green.
On May 24 2023 02:31 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend.
I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread.
Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless.
I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention.
Given my activity trying to draw MB out on their reasoning, these 2 don’t mesh so well.
It's funny that you bring up your questioning as a defense because that's exactly what I was expecting to hear when I was first reading the thread. I'll reference back to my earlier point that your activity hasn't been really pro-town and more an attempt to look involved without having to put your neck on the line.
And as to those points not meshing... the discussion was useful because it revealed you as being useless. + Show Spoiler +
On May 28 2023 11:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am a sucker for some things he says, it was quite hard to convince him on VE while it would be easy to see for him. All the reasons. We will see.
On May 28 2023 12:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh right why doesn't marv feel like Slam is mafia when he voted "against" him D1? Like all Slam did was to praise marv and then voted for Vivax, i would expect marv would be annoyed at that shit but instead he calls Slam town.
On May 28 2023 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is VE suspicious to some extent but never TOO suspicious, it was not hard to pick up the right things? Why is DP more suspicious than VE? I know on paper i would also say DP is suspicious but everything is not on paper, like the Koshi thingy, blaming me on his vote shit that's next level if mafia...
On May 28 2023 13:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like marv does this really fucking long pronged shit on DP that goes nowhere. DP has the same on VE.
All those on different wagons D1, none of them cares about each other for that to case.
What else does he have.
On May 28 2023 07:38 marvellosity wrote:
On May 28 2023 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you still think DP and LS could be teammates marv?
In all honesty I haven’t concentrated on LS related stuff today. Are there reasons beyond your (possibly valid) one yesterday you talked to me about?
Do you know whats fucking weird. Why does he notthink about LS. When I have been posting about him for days, surely if he was suspicious of me, he would have thought about LS because I have been trying to get him lynched.
DP and marv.. Ugh... Like every time i am in the thread with marv we're seeing things pretty similarly. That's usually town tell. I consider myself a decent player and if another decent player agrees with me then we're usually doing right things, and even if he is mafia we're still doing right things. That is early on. Lately there have been things that bug me. All the questions i asked yesterday i think are worth asking. I am not completely sure they make him look mafia but they are still worth asking. Maybe the biggest thing is i don't get how he can feel so strongly about DP being mafia, even before VE flip. It doesn't make sense to me, nor does the AFTER flip reaction when i have just kinda lead a lynch on mafia VE:
On May 28 2023 14:19 marvellosity wrote: Great result with VE.
If rayn is thinking about pushing me now maybe i am wrong about DP and I have been mega duped by rayn. Maybe that’s why Koshi died N1.
Because I look at the number of posts rayn hard-reads me as town and now this? I don’t understand it.
Like.... rayn leads a lynch on mafia VE, DP is big suspect for marv, suddenly after flip i am mafia just because i have doubts about him as i clearly can't figure out all mafia as Onegu also flips. It's just... idk, maybe he is just a bit butthurt i am calling him mafia, i really don't know because it doesn't look natural. Another thing is i think DP was way more natural to flip his read on VE. To me that felt like "i thought he was town but shiiiitt.. this is good you nailed it dude!", which is really natural when i read an ACTUAL good case.
I also know marv has had doubts on VE a long time, but never really acted on them. I don't think there was a lot of time left when i made my case on VE, i DO have a feeling marv SHOULD see those things before, and acted on them. Hell he wrote good stuff like "VE lynches Vivax because D1 is the only day when he can lynch town Vivax", really good shit. But not realising VE is mafia earlier when all the evidence is there? Weird.
And just in case you are swayed by marvs appeals to emotion, you need to hold firm.
On May 28 2023 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Both of you have a huge problem to lay your vote on VE, when it's not that hard of a vote.
Yeah i'm dumb. But at least you can read why I thought what I thought, [...]
see my problem is, as it is with most of those pbp analysis posts. you can always make out a lot of posts that seem townie from a person who posts a lot. it is the little things that make them mafia. 10 townie things do not make 1 scummy thing -> town. otherwise i would always read marv town in this game for instance.
On May 30 2023 06:50 Chezinu wrote: Guess this will focus us to kill DP next if Marv flips town.
He won't flip town. Ask yourself if I am mafia? why would I be suicidal trying to get marv mislynched? And not just lynching LS? What about my thought patterns and actions makes sense unless I am town and truly believe marv is mafia?
QUOTE]On May 30 2023 08:56 TankTopTiger wrote: @Town I think this lynch is basically for the game. If somehow our next lynch is town, then it's going to be 3 town to 2 scum left, and we will have lost one of our stronger players. If the next lynch is scum, it'll be four town to one scummer, and they will have (presumably) lost their best player.
So I think this lynch is the most important one thus far. Maximum effort please. [/QUOTE] Yeah you are right this lynch is the most important. If we lose another Town. We lose the game for sure. Marv and Dp are both strong players. They play this game for years maybe a decades. They know each other from old games. One of them is M. Def not both. DP and Marv are slightly "fighting" since D1 and trying to lynch each other or getting other players to lynch one of them. You came in to the game strong. Like very strong you where reading like 50 pages and made a unprejudiced and opjektive opinion on almost every person here. But for me it seemed like you had a strong townread on DP since you came here. Why? Why you get so hard on marv but ignores the point that DP could also just fake his emotions, that btw became stronger for the last 24 hours. I am not saying Marv is Town. No just seems like you have a to strong Townread for DB.
On May 30 2023 14:35 Alakaslam wrote: Like, Chezinu is a rare high IQ gentleman troll.
I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.
Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.
Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up
Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more
Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.
On May 23 2023 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk, i always end up posting a lot even when i am busy. Americans are probably sleeping i think(?). Euros working. I agree it's boring though, for once i can actually play more than usual in the last couple of years.
I work for the government now and I just check the thread and post while I’m at the office lol. Understandable that others are busy though.
Or maybe you are all scared of him, because he works for the goverment.
On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote: You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
Oh God I hosted that thing.
That was a horrible game for Marv and like everyone involved. Iirc it is over 500 pages long.
i would not trust a game with you as a host. I could just imagen you as a LHF (low hanging fruit) troll host.
On May 25 2023 21:58 TankTopTiger wrote: Koshi, can you not think of a single reason why I would ask Marv to defend himself instead of asking the first-time player?
To a newcomer, you people are acting in lockstep with no rhyme or reason. I don't understand, and I don't expect someone who is also new to the scene to understand. So I'm asking the people I most expect to be able to answer my questions. That would be the people who apparently have it all figured out.
Can you please jump off Marv's lap if you're not going to help me? Thanks.
True. I am just wondering why you are so focussed on marv and ignored the person saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you claimed only moments later.
On May 30 2023 22:26 TankTopTiger wrote: There are many small reasons that are hard to quantify, like I said before, DP and I know each other very well, but these are the two that form the bulk of my perspective and are easy to communicate:
1) Do you remember what Rayn said about Marv on D1? How he was gently guiding everything to try and make town successful (even if this didn't turn out to be the case)? Well, DP did that without taking credit. He's the only one who knew my "meta". When both Koshi and Rayn suspected me because I see things differently, he stepped up and revealed my identity, showing them both how exactly these feelings had caused Rayn to mislynch me once before 10 years ago or w/e. If he was mafia, he could have just let town fight for all of night one and probably day two (and believe you me, I was ready to throw down with those two - I was super pissed off with their cliquing). DP fixed the issue, and freed up myself, Koshi, and Rayn to be productive town (to emphasise, that's two confirmed good town players plus me). He did this not to advance his own town claim, but to ensure town was productive. This was a huge unsung contribution that dwarfs most other actions in the game IMO.
Secondly, while I was focused almost entirely on Marv, DP was developing a case on LS, who I also have a strong red read on. While it wasn't actually anything DP said about LS that convinced me (I encountered what I consider a fatal contradiction when reading back through the filter), the fact he was there before me suggests he cottoned onto something real via his own methods.
Another big reason is I don't think it's plausible for DP and Marv to both be red, so DP's townliness is proportional to Marv's scumliness, and Marv is scummy by every metric people have provided me with via his meta on top of my own independent criteria.
If marv get lynced as M we know LS is the third mpgm (mafia pussy gang member). But what you would to if Marv lynched as town. Like this case would change many things. Just wonder what would you think about DP if Marv get lynched and we see he was Town?
On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote: You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
Oh God I hosted that thing.
That was a horrible game for Marv and like everyone involved. Iirc it is over 500 pages long.
i would not trust a game with you as a host. I could just imagen you as a LHF (low hanging fruit) troll host.
BTW your username is worse then mine. It sounds like they guy who is on the airport with a suspect backpack and just get called out from the security on a side room
On May 30 2023 22:39 TankTopTiger wrote: Can you quote me the post that Koshi is talking about? I couldn't find it in filter.
TBH I don't read everything in detail. When my attention snags on something that I feel isn't the way it should be, I need to follow that until I'm satisfied otherwise the sheer weight of information will overwhelm me. So if I don't have something I'm chewing on, I skim until I snag, and then I resolve and resume skimming. But this game I'm constantly snagged. I was trying to tunnel Marv but VE snagged me harder. Then more recently I was again trying to tunnel marv and I snagged on LS (although these cases are more related). This is my process, and it works well for me by prioritising my learning and engagement.
At the time, Koshi was being a super annoying bastard who wasn't allowing me to push my line of questioning. Every time I tried to question the status quo, Rayn or Koshi would put roadblocks in my way and addressing whatever you said was one such roadblock.
If you filter Koshi it´s on page 10. One of the last posts he made before he was killed in his sleep by Marv or DP. And I know Koshi can be a annoying but this made him a good (Town) player. Asking someone more often questions that go in the opposite direction opens a new portal of possibilities and suspects. Some see this as a bad trait, but I see it as a provocative genius move, although it has also annoyed me from time to time.
On May 30 2023 14:35 Alakaslam wrote: Like, Chezinu is a rare high IQ gentleman troll.
I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.
Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.
Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up
Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more
Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.
What was I slam i am sad to be left out of the analysis? ( although I only played around 30 games)
You were Darthpunk. Unfortunately, I remember you as one of those who didn't want to tolerate my brand of trolling. Young BMW punks call that "mean" but now that I am basically mean and self aware I don't want to call someone who I have found out is not that, that
Why do you vote on marv. Why him and not DP. What makes him so suspicious to you? And why not DP?
On May 30 2023 22:55 TankTopTiger wrote: I'll sneak a look before I go... can't help myself.
I'm not throwing shade at Koshi. I'm just calling these specific events as I see them. I sort of assume people have their reasons even if I'm too inexperienced to understand them.
We are both inexperienced players here, although you have already played the same game on other platforms, as far as I have noticed. Don't you think Darth Punk wants to manipulate us? When you first suspected Marv, he logically got involved immediately. When I filter DP I notice that his emotions have become stronger since the voting contest between Marv and him started.
On May 30 2023 22:55 TankTopTiger wrote: I'll sneak a look before I go... can't help myself.
I'm not throwing shade at Koshi. I'm just calling these specific events as I see them. I sort of assume people have their reasons even if I'm too inexperienced to understand them.
We are both inexperienced players here, although you have already played the same game on other platforms, as far as I have noticed. Don't you think Darth Punk wants to manipulate us? When you first suspected Marv, he logically got involved immediately. When I filter DP I notice that his emotions have become stronger since the voting contest between Marv and him started.
As much as I would like to bury DP with whatever means possible, he would react with more emotion in that situation regardless of he is town or mafia
From a purely psychological point of view, if I were mafia and there was a votecontest between me and a Town, I would try to look more emtional to get empathy points from Townies. However, if I were Town and I was about to get lymched, I wouldn't get so emtional into it because it just looks helpless and look for more facts about the other person and post it instead of beeing this emtional. It looks like he want to get empathy points from Town here.
On May 30 2023 14:35 Alakaslam wrote: Like, Chezinu is a rare high IQ gentleman troll.
I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.
Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.
Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up
Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more
Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.
On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote: You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
Oh God I hosted that thing.
That was a horrible game for Marv and like everyone involved. Iirc it is over 500 pages long.
i would not trust a game with you as a host. I could just imagen you as a LHF (low hanging fruit) troll host.
BTW your username is worse then mine. It sounds like they guy who is on the airport with a suspect backpack and just get called out from the security on a side room
Supposed to be a pokemon that normally doesn't have much muscle actually being ripped
Or just High Templar storming a mineral line
Or magic missile
While I was reading this post I was looking outside the window and saw something like a UFO. The weird thing was I could only saw it in 144p
On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote: You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
Oh God I hosted that thing.
That was a horrible game for Marv and like everyone involved. Iirc it is over 500 pages long.
i would not trust a game with you as a host. I could just imagen you as a LHF (low hanging fruit) troll host.
BTW your username is worse then mine. It sounds like they guy who is on the airport with a suspect backpack and just get called out from the security on a side room
Supposed to be a pokemon that normally doesn't have much muscle actually being ripped
Or just High Templar storming a mineral line
Or magic missile
While I was reading this post I was looking outside the window and saw something like a UFO. The weird thing was I could only saw it in 144p
😀
Excellence
It is so weird to step out of the shower and immediately hear clear gamer rage. My parents live next to one and their shower bathroom shares a wall with his office.
"Ahh."
-"FUCKING HEAL! OH MY GOD YOU SON OF A FUCKING BITCH! GOD!"
He works night shift so I wake up and prepare for the day during his gaming time. Lol
Sounds like typically WOW player, hope you don't have a almond mom.
Just strange. It really looks so simple. So clearly that Marv and LS are Mafia. LS is the only one except Marv of course who still voted on DP instead of Marv. This is too simple to be true. This can not be the correct solution.
I mean I was told before I decided to play here that there are very high level players with massive psychological tricks in play. This cannot be the solution. That is too simple. Someone is psychologically manipulating the players here. The solution is too simple to be true. I mean it would never be this simple to win. I just don´t believe it.
Something is just wrong. Is DP and Marv both Town?? Is really only one of them two mafia or both and only want that one get lynched out and we vote next LS and LS flips Town? What is if Alakaslam (the american with the very suspect arabic username.) flips Mafia with chez and they just try to focus us on Marv and DP.
TTT and me we where just checking DP and Marv for the last 24 hours. I didn´t Filter Chez or Alakaslam, because I was to focused on Marv and DP (and maybe because for me it seems like they just make troll posts or random shit)
Why do I just think of Marv and LS as Mafia and most of you have the same thoughts except from Marv and LS of course.
Nobody is thinking of other people to vote out. Why the fuck should the win for town beeing this easy.
On May 29 2023 11:53 Chezinu wrote: I have the blessing of rayn and VE. People saying I'm more useful than others and I'm not up for lynch.
Unlike DP, I play for survival. You guys have fun. I'm going to eat my popcorn.
This is what I mean. Does this look like town for you guys?
On May 25 2023 11:25 Chezinu wrote: Guys.. what if it is AI that is the enemy. What if there are sentinels that we need to fight?
Random posts that nobody makes supect on him.
On May 26 2023 11:21 Chezinu wrote: Scumhunting during the night is how you get killed by mafia. You got to look clueless to live through the night but funny enough to keep around. Now let the hunt begin!
True i am to clueless to get killed in the night.
On May 25 2023 10:45 Alakaslam wrote: Hehehe, I am fast, Chezinu
On May 24 2023 23:43 die_meatbaby wrote: sometimes my mind rises above my head and i got mean (specily in the morning) So sorry if I hurt anybody with my language. I forget that not every body can just turn of the pc and just don´t think about what people in the internet writing, becauce i give never f0ck about it, but other people do so sorry for the mean words. So to everybody don´t take this chat here serioús it´s just game and don´t feel offendet in rl about this.
Still think V is mafia. He is just writing save things and try to be polite. too save...
I always compare things with scenarios i expirenced When i was 16 and back then i smoked some stuff, had it on me when i was walking trough the village. One time 4 Policeman goeing next to me i. I was goeing first to them and ask a silly question would be like never suspect for 16 year old girl. It worked. They didn´t controll me but the other guys at the park got controlled about brokkoli. It was more save to talk to the police then just be quiet. V is making here the same thing. He talks a little to chat here but not to much. He don´t but much efford to get a mafia or tow, because he already know
As mafia i would to the same thing and just be calm and mildly communicative with Townies. I would never be so active as a mafia. would be dump. The more you talk the more they know
Marv is also more like save communivating here. But don´t want to say he is m directly. Still i don´t know what to think about him. Going back and Filter him just makes it more hard for me to believe he is what he seems to be. Right now for me is marv town but could change quickly.
In mafia, we all have the hide of S M A U G himself, though we act like peaches
you act like peach
On May 29 2023 11:47 Alakaslam wrote: I need to filter Koshi before voting on that
Dammit I can be stupid
Act stupid is always safe...
Does not anybody else see this. Why are we just talking about M or DP Why we are not thinking of A and DP Or Marv and Chez and not just Marv and LS Why is nobody thinking of me and TTT. We just can not all agree that Marv is Mafia and when he flips Mafia that we vote on LS and then we won. Come on guys it would never be this easy. I think TTT is just stucking in a one way street and can´t turn around anymore. Lost the mind opening thoughts you had on the start
On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that.
one of his first posts and he wrote Dp and Marv as mafia. Like it just bullshit he wouldn´t directly make a another mafia red and start a discussion about this. to risky...
On May 23 2023 23:32 LightningStrike wrote: Hey I was busy last night and didn't check to see if the game started and caught up now! Marv looks town to me? I think he would of folded as mafia considering he is known for that given the pressure he was getting from DP but he continued posting his thoughts like I remembered how he was in XXX in 2015. VE is null he hasn't posted anything since a few hours ago will wait for judgement on him. dmb is null the stuff for why she scumreading Vivax is very odd? Koshi is town so far he been posting like I remembered how he was when I played back then. Rayn looks town I like the pressure on dmb from him so far and waiting for a conclusion of his pressure on her. DP I didn't like his early posting towards Marv (Even suggesting Marv is mafia??) and then gave a hard townread on dmb?His evolution of his read on Marv does seem organic. Null for now I guess.
D1 Dp starts to push marv as mafia (and VE as well btw). LS jumps directly on the bus and knowing marv is town as mafia. He thought it wouldn´t take long for marv to get voted out. Nobody would thinking fo LS as Mafia if marv get lynched as town.
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote: First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.
Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.
And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.
What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.
I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.
Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.
I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game.
I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)
On May 29 2023 11:53 Chezinu wrote: I have the blessing of rayn and VE. People saying I'm more useful than others and I'm not up for lynch.
Unlike DP, I play for survival. You guys have fun. I'm going to eat my popcorn.
This is what I mean. Does this look like town for you guys?
On May 25 2023 11:25 Chezinu wrote: Guys.. what if it is AI that is the enemy. What if there are sentinels that we need to fight?
Random posts that nobody makes supect on him.
On May 26 2023 11:21 Chezinu wrote: Scumhunting during the night is how you get killed by mafia. You got to look clueless to live through the night but funny enough to keep around. Now let the hunt begin!
True i am to clueless to get killed in the night.
On May 25 2023 10:45 Alakaslam wrote: Hehehe, I am fast, Chezinu
yeah fast together
On May 25 2023 02:12 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 24 2023 23:43 die_meatbaby wrote: sometimes my mind rises above my head and i got mean (specily in the morning) So sorry if I hurt anybody with my language. I forget that not every body can just turn of the pc and just don´t think about what people in the internet writing, becauce i give never f0ck about it, but other people do so sorry for the mean words. So to everybody don´t take this chat here serioús it´s just game and don´t feel offendet in rl about this.
Still think V is mafia. He is just writing save things and try to be polite. too save...
I always compare things with scenarios i expirenced When i was 16 and back then i smoked some stuff, had it on me when i was walking trough the village. One time 4 Policeman goeing next to me i. I was goeing first to them and ask a silly question would be like never suspect for 16 year old girl. It worked. They didn´t controll me but the other guys at the park got controlled about brokkoli. It was more save to talk to the police then just be quiet. V is making here the same thing. He talks a little to chat here but not to much. He don´t but much efford to get a mafia or tow, because he already know
As mafia i would to the same thing and just be calm and mildly communicative with Townies. I would never be so active as a mafia. would be dump. The more you talk the more they know
Marv is also more like save communivating here. But don´t want to say he is m directly. Still i don´t know what to think about him. Going back and Filter him just makes it more hard for me to believe he is what he seems to be. Right now for me is marv town but could change quickly.
In mafia, we all have the hide of S M A U G himself, though we act like peaches
you act like peach
On May 29 2023 11:47 Alakaslam wrote: I need to filter Koshi before voting on that
Dammit I can be stupid
Act stupid is always safe...
Does not anybody else see this. Why are we just talking about M or DP Why we are not thinking of A and DP Or Marv and Chez and not just Marv and LS Why is nobody thinking of me and TTT. We just can not all agree that Marv is Mafia and when he flips Mafia that we vote on LS and then we won. Come on guys it would never be this easy. I think TTT is just stucking in a one way street and can´t turn around anymore. Lost the mind opening thoughts you had on the start
If you read my posts I explain why you can’t be mafia. And why TTT probably isn’t. The fact you for some reason are really sure I’m mafia shouldn’t stop you reading my posts and understanding what’s true.
You’re going to be in for a big surprise when you wake up in the morning.
Have you actually evaluated my case on DP? Actually thought about what I wrote in my very lovely formatted post? That’s literally all I ask. Because for some reason town just hasn’t engaged with me on it. And it’s very frustrating. Can’t you see how genuine I am? Sad times.
yeah i was reading it and i am still don´t sure who is mafia right no. i am still to clueless but i don´t want to vote you right now more thinking of LS
On May 29 2023 23:33 marvellosity wrote: My final thoughts
So, as I've already talked about, what rayn started doing towards me just demoralised me massively, and my last vote on DP I did genuinely intend to be my last post of the game. But I still want town to win, so these are my thoughts that you can take with you into day 4. After you lynch me you will need to lynch correctly twice in a row or mafia wins. Some stuff I am pretty sure about, some I'm not.
die_meatbaby is town. Or at least if she is not town, the game is massively invalid in my eyes due to the ridiculous amount of setup nonsense that went on. My other supporting evidence is VE's post regarding this below.
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote: Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town? Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town
But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me
I keep going back to this because i can't understand why (especially) a newbie makes this post with having LS as town when at this point LS has both of her scumreads as town.
Do you want to revisit DMB today rayn?
I sort of think with all the host stuff about not knowing how the setup works it’s borderline… um… “unbelievably unsportsmanlike” if DMB is not town
This. Meat is town and we should just not fucking talk about it.
VE is plenty good at faking emotion and all that sort of stuff as mafia. But this is not fake - this is a mafia-VE frustrated that the antics around that playerslot have essentially confirmed DMB as town. Do not lynch her, ever.
Alakaslam I also think is town. Something that rayn pointed out is that MZ's goodbye post was actually kind of weak, so why did people believe it? One theory is that mafia know it's true and so have some sort of reaction to it. This is possible. But why would a mafia-Slam, knowing that both lynches on D1 are town, even need to engage with it? Why does a mafia-Slam, who is apparently hard-town reading marv (yes I've confirmed towned myself just to be gratuitous) paint a massive target on his back for going against his townreads and voting Vivax, when he could have just stayed on MZ no questions asked? It doesn't make much sense to me.
After I wrote this I went back to read rayn's post, as I remembered he said Slam was town and I couldn't remember why. Turns out it's exactly the same reason, so if we've both come to that conclusion it's a fair stab that Slam is town.
[yellow]Chez[yellow]inu - I have a hunch this guy is town, don't wanna talk about it really.
On May 29 2023 21:54 TankTopTiger wrote: I was thinking about what happens if we lynch marv and he's red. I was worried about a situation where we'd have to hunt down one of the non-contributing players who is then being micro-managed by a skilled player which would be hard.
Frankly I think these 2 posts are a bit outrageous to make if you are mafia (and tbh probably shouldn't be asking them in the thread if you're town). So for this reason alone he should be town. When I think about his gameplay it's basically a tunnel on me - well, fine. There's 2 options here: 1. him and DP are working completely in tandem as a mafia pair. Sounds crazy but not impossible. 2. DP has pocketed TTT and DP is riding off TTT's fervour. This is what I think is most likely.
This could be so true as well
LightningStrike I really have nothing further to add than what rayn said, so I'm just gonna quote it.
rayn wrote LS looks definitely worst in the bunch. Disconnected with the game, and while i have nothing really that says "this guy is definitely scum", i have also nothing that says this guy is definitely town. Everyone else looks just more town, that's it. I think you should always lynch LS the next day, it's just the most likely correct answer by poe and his disconnect with the game. Low volume poster or not, his posts still feel like no intention to solve.
Just as an aside, if you are town and voting me you are ignoring the bolded bit. Although I would also tell you to ignore it, so I'm not actually trying to make much of a point here
DarthPunk He is always mafia. I've talked about why before, but for the sake of completeness, I will summarise it here again. Firstly, he too easily gave out townreads for quite a portion of the game. This is a mistake I desperately have to try not to fall into every time I play scum, and I don't always succeed. The weird early hard townread of die_meatbaby, when the rest of the townies were a lot more cautious, or actively calling dmb mafia (e.g. Koshi). The point (night 1 I think? I forget slightly) where he posted that he simply had "too many townreads" at a point I had 2 good townreads (Koshi and rayn). This is not a natural way for a townie to be thinking about the game, townies are a paranoid people. Readers, if you are town, ask yourself if you ever had too many townreads in this game. Secondly, the turnaround on VE. DP made a really long post with about 20 quotes from VE and came to the conclusion that VE was most likely town. rayn makes a comment about VE's emotion (or lack of) and DP, after thinking so hard about VE's alignment, just flops the other way. Readers, if you are town - how easy is it for you to change your mind when you have just spent a lot of time thinking about someone's alignment? Also, please read again the passage of play where I start calling DP mafia. He was not calling me mafia before that. He tells me he knew my scumread on him was coming - he knew he'd misplayed. Tell you what, if I'm town in DP's position there, as far as I'm concerned I've just listened to a very likely townie (rayn) and voted for mafia (VE). I'd be feeling nervous (about the lynch to come) but happy. I wouldn't be feeling guilty - "I knew this read on me was coming". The inherent guilt of being mafia. Then the way he starts calling me mafia - "FWIW I think marv could be mafia". Of course he just happens to wait until I have called him mafia, and then very casually says "FWIW".
None of anything of what DP has done is how a townie thinks. Lynch him with fire
I will not defend myself any further - this is my position. I will take no questions from DP because he is mafia. TTT - if you are just going to take the position that I am mafia spewing bs, fine. But assuming you are town, please go back, read my thoughts here again as if they are legitimately townie, and think about them. If you don't believe me, fine. Lynch me and then come back to this post.
On May 31 2023 03:23 marvellosity wrote: Right, this is going to be my last try. I am going to use my last big post as the basis for this one, below. It looks like I am 99% going to be lynched today, and the frustrating thing about that is ultimately if a townie gets lynched, it's on them for not being able to show the rest of town that they are town. So, sad times for me but I am at peace with it. What I'm still not at peace with is rayn falling off his townread on me. I never fell off my townread on him (he quoted a post in his 'vomit' goodbye post where it looks like I was calling him mafia because he started being suspicious of me - that wasn't the case at all, which I think should have been relatively clear by my terming it 'mega duped' by rayn - i.e. mega duped = i was hard townreading him. I just couldn't understand why when we'd been strong townreading each other that he'd stop. Because I got really convinced that DP was mafia? That seemed like a strange reason to stop hard townreading me).
It also means I've probably misplayed today badly as well, objectively the right thing to do was probably to lynch LS and I am being screamed at in the observer chat why I didn't do that. Well, unfortunately I did not do that, and I am way too far in to want to do that now (and probably couldn't even if I wanted to). So alas, here we are...
On May 29 2023 23:33 marvellosity wrote: My final thoughts
So, as I've already talked about, what rayn started doing towards me just demoralised me massively, and my last vote on DP I did genuinely intend to be my last post of the game. But I still want town to win, so these are my thoughts that you can take with you into day 4. After you lynch me you will need to lynch correctly twice in a row or mafia wins. Some stuff I am pretty sure about, some I'm not.
die_meatbaby is town. Or at least if she is not town, the game is massively invalid in my eyes due to the ridiculous amount of setup nonsense that went on. My other supporting evidence is VE's post regarding this below.
On May 27 2023 09:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 27 2023 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2023 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2023 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote: Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town? Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town
But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me
I keep going back to this because i can't understand why (especially) a newbie makes this post with having LS as town when at this point LS has both of her scumreads as town.
Do you want to revisit DMB today rayn?
I sort of think with all the host stuff about not knowing how the setup works it’s borderline… um… “unbelievably unsportsmanlike” if DMB is not town
This. Meat is town and we should just not fucking talk about it.
VE is plenty good at faking emotion and all that sort of stuff as mafia. But this is not fake - this is a mafia-VE frustrated that the antics around that playerslot have essentially confirmed DMB as town. Do not lynch her, ever.
Alakaslam I also think is town. Something that rayn pointed out is that MZ's goodbye post was actually kind of weak, so why did people believe it? One theory is that mafia know it's true and so have some sort of reaction to it. This is possible. But why would a mafia-Slam, knowing that both lynches on D1 are town, even need to engage with it? Why does a mafia-Slam, who is apparently hard-town reading marv (yes I've confirmed towned myself just to be gratuitous) paint a massive target on his back for going against his townreads and voting Vivax, when he could have just stayed on MZ no questions asked? It doesn't make much sense to me.
After I wrote this I went back to read rayn's post, as I remembered he said Slam was town and I couldn't remember why. Turns out it's exactly the same reason, so if we've both come to that conclusion it's a fair stab that Slam is town.
Chezinu - I have a hunch this guy is town, don't wanna talk about it really.
TankTopTiger
On May 29 2023 17:38 TankTopTiger wrote: Do mafia get to keep posting in the mafia discord after they've been lynched?
On May 29 2023 21:54 TankTopTiger wrote: I was thinking about what happens if we lynch marv and he's red. I was worried about a situation where we'd have to hunt down one of the non-contributing players who is then being micro-managed by a skilled player which would be hard.
Frankly I think these 2 posts are a bit outrageous to make if you are mafia (and tbh probably shouldn't be asking them in the thread if you're town). So for this reason alone he should be town. When I think about his gameplay it's basically a tunnel on me - well, fine. There's 2 options here: 1. him and DP are working completely in tandem as a mafia pair. Sounds crazy but not impossible. 2. DP has pocketed TTT and DP is riding off TTT's fervour. This is what I think is most likely.
LightningStrike I really have nothing further to add than what rayn said, so I'm just gonna quote it.
rayn wrote LS looks definitely worst in the bunch. Disconnected with the game, and while i have nothing really that says "this guy is definitely scum", i have also nothing that says this guy is definitely town. Everyone else looks just more town, that's it. I think you should always lynch LS the next day, it's just the most likely correct answer by poe and his disconnect with the game. Low volume poster or not, his posts still feel like no intention to solve.
Just as an aside, if you are town and voting me you are ignoring the bolded bit. Although I would also tell you to ignore it, so I'm not actually trying to make much of a point here
DarthPunk He is always mafia. I've talked about why before, but for the sake of completeness, I will summarise it here again. Firstly, he too easily gave out townreads for quite a portion of the game. This is a mistake I desperately have to try not to fall into every time I play scum, and I don't always succeed. The weird early hard townread of die_meatbaby, when the rest of the townies were a lot more cautious, or actively calling dmb mafia (e.g. Koshi). The point (night 1 I think? I forget slightly) where he posted that he simply had "too many townreads" at a point I had 2 good townreads (Koshi and rayn). This is not a natural way for a townie to be thinking about the game, townies are a paranoid people. Readers, if you are town, ask yourself if you ever had too many townreads in this game. Secondly, the turnaround on VE. DP made a really long post with about 20 quotes from VE and came to the conclusion that VE was most likely town. rayn makes a comment about VE's emotion (or lack of) and DP, after thinking so hard about VE's alignment, just flops the other way. Readers, if you are town - how easy is it for you to change your mind when you have just spent a lot of time thinking about someone's alignment? Also, please read again the passage of play where I start calling DP mafia. He was not calling me mafia before that. He tells me he knew my scumread on him was coming - he knew he'd misplayed. Tell you what, if I'm town in DP's position there, as far as I'm concerned I've just listened to a very likely townie (rayn) and voted for mafia (VE). I'd be feeling nervous (about the lynch to come) but happy. I wouldn't be feeling guilty - "I knew this read on me was coming". The inherent guilt of being mafia. Then the way he starts calling me mafia - "FWIW I think marv could be mafia". Of course he just happens to wait until I have called him mafia, and then very casually says "FWIW".
None of anything of what DP has done is how a townie thinks. Lynch him with fire
I will not defend myself any further - this is my position. I will take no questions from DP because he is mafia. TTT - if you are just going to take the position that I am mafia spewing bs, fine. But assuming you are town, please go back, read my thoughts here again as if they are legitimately townie, and think about them. If you don't believe me, fine. Lynch me and then come back to this post.
Most of all the above is still right as far as I am concerned. Some slight differences:
LightningStrike is more likely to be mafia than what I posted there, the sheep on me was real bad (would still take it ) Alakaslam I think is a bit less likely to be town based on his posts today. I also thought more about the reasoning that both rayn and I gave, and the plausible alternative is that a mafia-Slam changed votes from MZ to Vivax because why the fuck not? I still think this is the less likely version, because at the time Vivax was lynched, mafia did not know a vigilante would shoot and flip MZ. Meaning Slam didn't know it would look okay on him that he made the switch to Vivax.
I know and understand that part of the reason rayn was suspicious of me, and probably the rest of you too, was that I didn't talk much about LS day 2. And voted VE late or something like that. The whole of D2 (Friday evening and all of Saturday) was just bad timing for me irl-wise, there's nothing more to it than that. From my perspective, I thought I had identified a mafia (DP), and we were merrily lynching VE (mafia), there did not seem to be much reason to talk about LS, he wasn't running away. I'm not going to say anything else in my defence.
DarthPunk
Somewhere today he posted a whole bunch of rayn posts to show that I am supposed to be mafia (not very good at making a proper case against me himself). I just really want town to remember that it wasn't clear like that for rayn at the time he died either:
On May 29 2023 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know. PoE says LS is mafia and after that occam's razor says one of marv or DP is mafia. Don't get me wrong, just if i analyse both of them individually they look town, but there HAS TO BE third mafia in this game. Gun to head i would say marv over DP, but i am really not sure.
Obviously what I am including here is that rayn is betting that I am more likely mafia, well fine. But it's certainly not that he died giving DP a big town-read either. And, from my own perspective, I have one big advantage that rayn does not have, which is I know my own alignment.
Imagine me making that post that rayn made (in fact many of our reads are fairly similar). rayn came down to the conclusion that it was between me, LS, and DP. Now, if I am making that post myself - let's say all the other reads are the same, Slam, DMB, etc etc. I would be left with 3 players the mafia could be between - rayn, LS, and DP. Except I strongly believed all game that rayn was town. Which brings the 3 options that rayn gives down to 2 options, DP and LS. It shouldn't be surprising that I am hard scumreading DP then!
I was going to write a lot more about DP in this post, but it turns out I don't want to. I tried my best but I lost a lot of confidence. Either I am right on DP and no-one believes me and I am in an oasis on my own. Or I am very wrong and I'm still on my own. Because maybe I can come up with alternative explanations for some of what he's done. Maybe somehow he can have inherent guilt as town. I still find it hard to believe for this post:
On May 28 2023 07:25 marvellosity wrote: I also think DP had his mind changed on VE very quickly here given he spent a lot of time making a massive quote post to conclude that VE was town.
On May 28 2023 07:26 marvellosity wrote: Like DP is mafia
im not but i understand why you could think so. I just thought about his emotion deeper than on a surface level, once rayn brought it up.
Like he is literally admitting my scumread on him is valid.
But then I look at some other posts and they're not so bad again. So never mind
There is a reason why they shoot on rayn in N2. It looks more like a plan from DP. They read the posts from rayn and it´s not really aigainst DP but more on you. Why should Mafia kill somebody who is aigainst them, because it would be to obvious. Dp was thinking before killing rayn what he is doeing and how he can use rayn´s posts to lynch somebody else.
On May 31 2023 04:56 marvellosity wrote: The problem is that rayn was the obvious shot regardless
For me you seem more town then DP
So this is going to sound like a strange question from someone who played a million games and you played 1. What would you be doing in my position right now?
As you sad you are the expierenced player. Whose idea was it to shoot Rayn that night? Why do you think he was shot at and not you, TTT or me? I mean everyone is pretty sure that TTT and I are town. Why not kill the people who probably won't be voted out?
Was somebody thinking what if DP and marv both flips to town? Chez and Slam are just not really posting here. Less posts less suspect. Right now it seems like marv get voted out (could be mafia but let us see him as town) Marv flips town, 6 Players left 4 town 2 mafia chez, ttt , LS, Slam, DP and me. then there comes the night. They kill another town. 5 players left 3 town 2 mafia. we will of course all vote on dp. Like everybody all of us. Dp flips as town as well. 2 town 2 mafia Next night they kill another town player 1 town left 2 mafia We lose. This non aktiv players get the win.
On May 29 2023 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I've been sleeping all day, i just got up for a minute to write this before eon.
I think it's fairly certain TTT is town. Like before meapak flipped and after the flip for some time i thought the way he approached the game from mafia perspective, but at some point his his view changes to that VE is easily most likely to be mafia, and at that point there is no real pressure yet on VE. It doesn't make any sense for mafia to invent a story where marv is pushing a lynch on town meapak just to change his focus completely to his scumbuddy AFTER he has PROOF that his original assessment could be right (meapak flip).
I also think Slam and Chezinu are town. Now that we know meapak has flipped town, there is pretty much no real reason for slam to praise marv all D1 then vote on Vivax instead of Meapak. Like it's a contradiction he would notice if he was mafia, there is no harm voting Meapak over Vivax as both are town, it just doesn't make much sense to me as mafia. Chezinu has been quite on point on his suspects, i really liked his suspects list D2, and i think VE voting for Chezinu is a point on his favor as well. Like i think VE could vote for his scumbuddy in a situation like that, but i don't think that's the case here. He had other options as well, and it really make it look worse for VE rather than make a good play by distancing.
mebaby is hard to crack but after all i see her townie. VE could technically hard-clear her, but i still doubt in case they were both mafia. Maybe 75% chance that alone makes her town. Another thing is that afer inventing the story on ray + Vivax being mafia, mebaby had all the reasons as mafia to go after me, and while noone would believe her most likely, noone would also blame her for it most likely. Instead of doing that, she invents ANOTHER story of how Vivax got lynched, throws in her scumbuddy VE, votes for him, and says VE is 10000% mafia. I don't buy it she does that as mafia.
So while i know i could be wrong here somewhere, that's still what i think at the moment. And that leaves me with LS / DP / marv.
LS looks definitely worst in the bunch. Disconnected with the game, and while i have nothing really that says "this guy is definitely scum", i have also nothing that says this guy is definitely town. Everyone else looks just more town, that's it. I think you should always lynch LS the next day, it's just the most likely correct answer by poe and his disconnect with the game. Low volume poster or not, his posts still feel like no intention to solve.
DP and marv.. Ugh... Like every time i am in the thread with marv we're seeing things pretty similarly. That's usually town tell. I consider myself a decent player and if another decent player agrees with me then we're usually doing right things, and even if he is mafia we're still doing right things. That is early on. Lately there have been things that bug me. All the questions i asked yesterday i think are worth asking. I am not completely sure they make him look mafia but they are still worth asking. Maybe the biggest thing is i don't get how he can feel so strongly about DP being mafia, even before VE flip. It doesn't make sense to me, nor does the AFTER flip reaction when i have just kinda lead a lynch on mafia VE:
On May 28 2023 14:19 marvellosity wrote: Great result with VE.
If rayn is thinking about pushing me now maybe i am wrong about DP and I have been mega duped by rayn. Maybe that’s why Koshi died N1.
Because I look at the number of posts rayn hard-reads me as town and now this? I don’t understand it.
Like.... rayn leads a lynch on mafia VE, DP is big suspect for marv, suddenly after flip i am mafia just because i have doubts about him as i clearly can't figure out all mafia as Onegu also flips. It's just... idk, maybe he is just a bit butthurt i am calling him mafia, i really don't know because it doesn't look natural. Another thing is i think DP was way more natural to flip his read on VE. To me that felt like "i thought he was town but shiiiitt.. this is good you nailed it dude!", which is really natural when i read an ACTUAL good case.
I also know marv has had doubts on VE a long time, but never really acted on them. I don't think there was a lot of time left when i made my case on VE, i DO have a feeling marv SHOULD see those things before, and acted on them. Hell he wrote good stuff like "VE lynches Vivax because D1 is the only day when he can lynch town Vivax", really good shit. But not realising VE is mafia earlier when all the evidence is there? Weird.
I think DP has looked more natural in his read progression. If LS is mafia, i don't know why DP has to have him as soft buss all game? Like DP can bus for sure, but i don't know what's it worth? If LS is town why wasn't LS up for lynch by mafia DP on D2? With LS wagon distraction there it could be possible, even LIKELY that there is a town lynch instead of VE lynch, and noone could even blame DP for that because he has been playing towards it whole game. Hell even if LS is mafia lynching inactive mafia member in team instead of hyper active VE is a win in comparison to situation now.
I don't know. PoE says LS is mafia and after that occam's razor says one of marv or DP is mafia. Don't get me wrong, just if i analyse both of them individually they look town, but there HAS TO BE third mafia in this game. Gun to head i would say marv over DP, but i am really not sure.
That's the vomit in case i die.
On May 28 2023 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Both of you have a huge problem to lay your vote on VE, when it's not that hard of a vote.
On May 28 2023 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is VE suspicious to some extent but never TOO suspicious, it was not hard to pick up the right things? Why is DP more suspicious than VE? I know on paper i would also say DP is suspicious but everything is not on paper, like the Koshi thingy, blaming me on his vote shit that's next level if mafia...
On May 31 2023 06:42 marvellosity wrote: DP, assuming we lynch LS here, we need to get everyone who isn’t here right now to actually commit to a god damn read and not just watch us do it.
Yeah I know. We should work together the next night and then see what the day brings.
Deal. Sort of feels win win for me right now…. either you are maf and town talked me out of it and I can say I told you so
Or you’re town and I’ve worked my way off a mega tunnel
Both options make me feel pretty good
if you both flipped as mafia at the end i throw my computer out the window and under question vivax why he let me play this shit game with so little IQ. But right now i have hope that you two are strong town players and help to win
On May 31 2023 07:33 LightningStrike wrote: Will make this easier for town since I do townread Marv and he is a better player than me. ##Unvote ##Vote: LightningStrike
holy shit on toast. what the f...? def didn´t see this coming. Don´t know what to think about it.
On May 31 2023 07:33 LightningStrike wrote: Will make this easier for town since I do townread Marv and he is a better player than me. ##Unvote ##Vote: LightningStrike
holy shit on toast. what the f...? def didn´t see this coming. Don´t know what to think about it.
On May 31 2023 07:55 Alakaslam wrote: Because us getting it right matters a lot right now and I always get ML at lylo and people like to lay blame for that junk on me. So if we screw up between the vets I don't want that shit at my feet again because people think post count= contribution. I have posted a ton of off topic but what hasn't been off topic has been what I can make of the game.
Rayn and Koshi knew what was up. Rayn especially knows me.
You do too Chez.
Yeah actually I am not worried about this anymore. We lynch LS and if that guy is town we deserve to lose.
yeah see it the same way we would derserve to lose
On May 31 2023 08:22 TankTopTiger wrote: What the fuck is happening. Why with these last-second switches?
Looks like my vote doesn't matter, and I'm happy with either lynch. But this seems so unnecessary. If LS is red, Marv is scum.
+ DMB, IMO Marv is trying to pocket you. He's constantly "confirmed you town" which is warm and fuzzy but you've literally never been the lynch so this much attention being paid to you is weird. He wants you to defend him, like Rayn and Koshi were defending him early. The guy's a puppeteer.
VE was also telling me I was super Town for him. Still voted him earlier and got suspect of him before some other players where. Marv is different don't think he manipulative to me and if he is good fucking job... Everybody is townread you so fast and def high townread from all as well. May you scared of Marv flipping you as M?
But don't wanna say you are Mafia. I just need some sleep and I think tomorrow about it.
On May 31 2023 08:22 TankTopTiger wrote: What the fuck is happening. Why with these last-second switches?
Looks like my vote doesn't matter, and I'm happy with either lynch. But this seems so unnecessary. If LS is red, Marv is scum.
+ DMB, IMO Marv is trying to pocket you. He's constantly "confirmed you town" which is warm and fuzzy but you've literally never been the lynch so this much attention being paid to you is weird. He wants you to defend him, like Rayn and Koshi were defending him early. The guy's a puppeteer.
You haven't played games with me much, huh?
Dear Chez Sometimes your posts give me the creeps. Is this something you do on purpose?
If you are creepy then I am downright NASSTTYYY lol
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You have a coherence
Chezinu Isunizehc is always able to find the way to Lucca Gallo Ricci
Meanwhile, Still, Nobody Knows What Chupazi Is
On April 16 2016 14:04 Alakaslam wrote: So included below are those who follow the way of Chupazi truly; they have mastered the art of winfail such that they fail with win, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and sometimes vice versa.
@Town Why do you all think TTT is Town? Nobody thinks he is mafia. He saw that DP is thinking of Marv is Mafia. He see that they are pushing each other since D1 and try to push that more and more. Dream case from TTT is we voting one of them out. Prefer Marv first. Marv flips Town. Of course DP is next because he tried to push Dp more on marv than he did before TTT comes in the game. We all would vote DP. Flips Town as well. TTT is mafia. I don't see you as Town anymore. You just try to push DP on Marv. You don't try to get Chez Slam or me on lynching Marv. You try to let Dp to the work and we would vote on 2 Town. This Szenario is so out of world smart, when I am thinking of you as the person you described yourself. You where writing you played the game a few times before but tried to look like newbi. Look at his... at your posts... the way you write... this is master playing Bs. You write like you are playing for decades. I don't believe you anymore as Town
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.
I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.
From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.
I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.
Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.
Like VE and LS where almost on there own as Mafia at the beginning. Of course you guys know each other since years. How would VE and LS deal with that situation? Why is TTT bushing Marv so hard when all of where more sure on LS as Mafia then Marv (like DP said 100% LS 80% Marv) Why should we lynch first Marv when we all where already sure about LS. Why is he they to push Dp so hard on Marv?
On May 31 2023 19:50 TankTopTiger wrote: If Marv flips town lynch me.
I was reading old games and when I was learning one thing from this. This is good Mafia playing. Marv flips town you try to convince us to not voting on you because you are "def town"... we would lose... and blablabla...
You where starting a "war" between two townies... you pushed the dp and marv thing... it was existing science D1 and you just saw a brilliant way of making town to vote between two Townies...
This night there getting Chez or Slam killed. If you kill Dp it would be to obvious for marv to kill him as Mafia. Marv wouldn't be that stupid and nobody of us would believe this shit anymore. If you kill me it's your direct way to death. If you kill Marv you wouldn't have the trust of the Town anymore because he flips Town.
@TTT Do you have another account here? Or maybe on some other similar website where I could read old games from you? I did here on Marv, Vivax and Koshi the same.
On June 01 2023 03:26 marvellosity wrote: Just read Chez's filter and my god, it's fucking nuts. But he's also playing the game. "Slam is town because his posts are unfiltered". That's a bona fide read.
I mean I'm sure he can say stuff like that as mafia. But it almost seems like he's quite interested in what's going on this game despite himself, which leans town.
Difficult shit.
I just read Chez's filter too. I totally forgot about his last post. I'm not missing out.
EPT
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