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On May 25 2023 22:00 Koshi wrote: True. I am just wondering why you are so focussed on marv and ignored the person saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you claimed only moments later. @TTT ... | ||
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On May 30 2023 22:26 TankTopTiger wrote: There are many small reasons that are hard to quantify, like I said before, DP and I know each other very well, but these are the two that form the bulk of my perspective and are easy to communicate: 1) Do you remember what Rayn said about Marv on D1? How he was gently guiding everything to try and make town successful (even if this didn't turn out to be the case)? Well, DP did that without taking credit. He's the only one who knew my "meta". When both Koshi and Rayn suspected me because I see things differently, he stepped up and revealed my identity, showing them both how exactly these feelings had caused Rayn to mislynch me once before 10 years ago or w/e. If he was mafia, he could have just let town fight for all of night one and probably day two (and believe you me, I was ready to throw down with those two - I was super pissed off with their cliquing). DP fixed the issue, and freed up myself, Koshi, and Rayn to be productive town (to emphasise, that's two confirmed good town players plus me). He did this not to advance his own town claim, but to ensure town was productive. This was a huge unsung contribution that dwarfs most other actions in the game IMO. Secondly, while I was focused almost entirely on Marv, DP was developing a case on LS, who I also have a strong red read on. While it wasn't actually anything DP said about LS that convinced me (I encountered what I consider a fatal contradiction when reading back through the filter), the fact he was there before me suggests he cottoned onto something real via his own methods. Another big reason is I don't think it's plausible for DP and Marv to both be red, so DP's townliness is proportional to Marv's scumliness, and Marv is scummy by every metric people have provided me with via his meta on top of my own independent criteria. If marv get lynced as M we know LS is the third mpgm (mafia pussy gang member). But what you would to if Marv lynched as town. Like this case would change many things. Just wonder what would you think about DP if Marv get lynched and we see he was Town? | ||
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On May 30 2023 22:10 die_meatbaby wrote: i would not trust a game with you as a host. I could just imagen you as a LHF (low hanging fruit) troll host. BTW your username is worse then mine. It sounds like they guy who is on the airport with a suspect backpack and just get called out from the security on a side room | ||
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On May 30 2023 22:39 TankTopTiger wrote: Can you quote me the post that Koshi is talking about? I couldn't find it in filter. TBH I don't read everything in detail. When my attention snags on something that I feel isn't the way it should be, I need to follow that until I'm satisfied otherwise the sheer weight of information will overwhelm me. So if I don't have something I'm chewing on, I skim until I snag, and then I resolve and resume skimming. But this game I'm constantly snagged. I was trying to tunnel Marv but VE snagged me harder. Then more recently I was again trying to tunnel marv and I snagged on LS (although these cases are more related). This is my process, and it works well for me by prioritising my learning and engagement. At the time, Koshi was being a super annoying bastard who wasn't allowing me to push my line of questioning. Every time I tried to question the status quo, Rayn or Koshi would put roadblocks in my way and addressing whatever you said was one such roadblock. If you filter Koshi it´s on page 10. One of the last posts he made before he was killed in his sleep by Marv or DP. And I know Koshi can be a annoying but this made him a good (Town) player. Asking someone more often questions that go in the opposite direction opens a new portal of possibilities and suspects. Some see this as a bad trait, but I see it as a provocative genius move, although it has also annoyed me from time to time. | ||
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On May 30 2023 22:46 Alakaslam wrote: You were Darthpunk. Unfortunately, I remember you as one of those who didn't want to tolerate my brand of trolling. Young BMW punks call that "mean" but now that I am basically mean and self aware I don't want to call someone who I have found out is not that, that Why do you vote on marv. Why him and not DP. What makes him so suspicious to you? And why not DP? | ||
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On May 30 2023 22:55 TankTopTiger wrote: I'll sneak a look before I go... can't help myself. I'm not throwing shade at Koshi. I'm just calling these specific events as I see them. I sort of assume people have their reasons even if I'm too inexperienced to understand them. We are both inexperienced players here, although you have already played the same game on other platforms, as far as I have noticed. Don't you think Darth Punk wants to manipulate us? When you first suspected Marv, he logically got involved immediately. When I filter DP I notice that his emotions have become stronger since the voting contest between Marv and him started. | ||
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On May 30 2023 23:04 marvellosity wrote: As much as I would like to bury DP with whatever means possible, he would react with more emotion in that situation regardless of he is town or mafia From a purely psychological point of view, if I were mafia and there was a votecontest between me and a Town, I would try to look more emtional to get empathy points from Townies. However, if I were Town and I was about to get lymched, I wouldn't get so emtional into it because it just looks helpless and look for more facts about the other person and post it instead of beeing this emtional. It looks like he want to get empathy points from Town here. | ||
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On May 30 2023 23:15 Alakaslam wrote: His job is pretty high profile. He doesn't come here to talk about work though. | ||
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On May 30 2023 23:19 Alakaslam wrote: Supposed to be a pokemon that normally doesn't have much muscle actually being ripped Or just High Templar storming a mineral line Or magic missile While I was reading this post I was looking outside the window and saw something like a UFO. The weird thing was I could only saw it in 144p | ||
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On May 30 2023 23:41 Alakaslam wrote: 😀 Excellence It is so weird to step out of the shower and immediately hear clear gamer rage. My parents live next to one and their shower bathroom shares a wall with his office. "Ahh." -"FUCKING HEAL! OH MY GOD YOU SON OF A FUCKING BITCH! GOD!" He works night shift so I wake up and prepare for the day during his gaming time. Lol ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/gNeaoc3.jpg) Sounds like typically WOW player, hope you don't have a almond mom. | ||
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I mean I was told before I decided to play here that there are very high level players with massive psychological tricks in play. This cannot be the solution. That is too simple. Someone is psychologically manipulating the players here. The solution is too simple to be true. I mean it would never be this simple to win. I just don´t believe it. Something is just wrong. Is DP and Marv both Town?? Is really only one of them two mafia or both and only want that one get lynched out and we vote next LS and LS flips Town? What is if Alakaslam (the american with the very suspect arabic username.) flips Mafia with chez and they just try to focus us on Marv and DP. TTT and me we where just checking DP and Marv for the last 24 hours. I didn´t Filter Chez or Alakaslam, because I was to focused on Marv and DP (and maybe because for me it seems like they just make troll posts or random shit) Why do I just think of Marv and LS as Mafia and most of you have the same thoughts except from Marv and LS of course. Nobody is thinking of other people to vote out. Why the fuck should the win for town beeing this easy. It´s to easy to be true. I can´t be true. | ||
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On May 29 2023 11:53 Chezinu wrote: I have the blessing of rayn and VE. People saying I'm more useful than others and I'm not up for lynch. Unlike DP, I play for survival. You guys have fun. I'm going to eat my popcorn.  This is what I mean. Does this look like town for you guys? On May 25 2023 11:25 Chezinu wrote: Guys.. what if it is AI that is the enemy. What if there are sentinels that we need to fight? Random posts that nobody makes supect on him. On May 26 2023 11:21 Chezinu wrote: Scumhunting during the night is how you get killed by mafia. You got to look clueless to live through the night but funny enough to keep around. Now let the hunt begin! True i am to clueless to get killed in the night. On May 25 2023 10:45 Alakaslam wrote: Hehehe, I am fast, Chezinu yeah fast together On May 25 2023 02:12 Alakaslam wrote: In mafia, we all have the hide of S M A U G himself, though we act like peaches you act like peach On May 29 2023 11:47 Alakaslam wrote: I need to filter Koshi before voting on that Dammit I can be stupid Act stupid is always safe... Does not anybody else see this. Why are we just talking about M or DP Why we are not thinking of A and DP Or Marv and Chez and not just Marv and LS Why is nobody thinking of me and TTT. We just can not all agree that Marv is Mafia and when he flips Mafia that we vote on LS and then we won. Come on guys it would never be this easy. I think TTT is just stucking in a one way street and can´t turn around anymore. Lost the mind opening thoughts you had on the start | ||
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On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3. 1) [UoN]Sentinel 2) Alakaslam 3) Chezinu 4) Vivax 5) LightningStrike 6) DarthPunk 7) Onegu 8) Koshi 9) die_meatbaby 10) raynpelikoneet 11) Meapak_Ziphh 12) marvellosity 13) VisceraEyes I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv. I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads. MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. one of his first posts and he wrote Dp and Marv as mafia. Like it just bullshit he wouldn´t directly make a another mafia red and start a discussion about this. to risky... On May 23 2023 23:32 LightningStrike wrote: Hey I was busy last night and didn't check to see if the game started and caught up now! Marv looks town to me? I think he would of folded as mafia considering he is known for that given the pressure he was getting from DP but he continued posting his thoughts like I remembered how he was in XXX in 2015. VE is null he hasn't posted anything since a few hours ago will wait for judgement on him. dmb is null the stuff for why she scumreading Vivax is very odd? Koshi is town so far he been posting like I remembered how he was when I played back then. Rayn looks town I like the pressure on dmb from him so far and waiting for a conclusion of his pressure on her. DP I didn't like his early posting towards Marv (Even suggesting Marv is mafia??) and then gave a hard townread on dmb?His evolution of his read on Marv does seem organic. Null for now I guess. D1 Dp starts to push marv as mafia (and VE as well btw). LS jumps directly on the bus and knowing marv is town as mafia. He thought it wouldn´t take long for marv to get voted out. Nobody would thinking fo LS as Mafia if marv get lynched as town. On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote: First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) | ||
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On May 31 2023 01:54 marvellosity wrote: If you read my posts I explain why you can’t be mafia. And why TTT probably isn’t. The fact you for some reason are really sure I’m mafia shouldn’t stop you reading my posts and understanding what’s true. You’re going to be in for a big surprise when you wake up in the morning. Have you actually evaluated my case on DP? Actually thought about what I wrote in my very lovely formatted post? That’s literally all I ask. Because for some reason town just hasn’t engaged with me on it. And it’s very frustrating. Can’t you see how genuine I am? Sad times. yeah i was reading it and i am still don´t sure who is mafia right no. i am still to clueless but i don´t want to vote you right now more thinking of LS | ||
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/5XCcrxb.jpg) @Chez Google usernames is always a good idea. Nice YouTube channel | ||
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On May 29 2023 23:33 marvellosity wrote: My final thoughts So, as I've already talked about, what rayn started doing towards me just demoralised me massively, and my last vote on DP I did genuinely intend to be my last post of the game. But I still want town to win, so these are my thoughts that you can take with you into day 4. After you lynch me you will need to lynch correctly twice in a row or mafia wins. Some stuff I am pretty sure about, some I'm not. die_meatbaby is town. Or at least if she is not town, the game is massively invalid in my eyes due to the ridiculous amount of setup nonsense that went on. My other supporting evidence is VE's post regarding this below. VE is plenty good at faking emotion and all that sort of stuff as mafia. But this is not fake - this is a mafia-VE frustrated that the antics around that playerslot have essentially confirmed DMB as town. Do not lynch her, ever. Alakaslam I also think is town. Something that rayn pointed out is that MZ's goodbye post was actually kind of weak, so why did people believe it? One theory is that mafia know it's true and so have some sort of reaction to it. This is possible. But why would a mafia-Slam, knowing that both lynches on D1 are town, even need to engage with it? Why does a mafia-Slam, who is apparently hard-town reading marv (yes I've confirmed towned myself just to be gratuitous) paint a massive target on his back for going against his townreads and voting Vivax, when he could have just stayed on MZ no questions asked? It doesn't make much sense to me. After I wrote this I went back to read rayn's post, as I remembered he said Slam was town and I couldn't remember why. Turns out it's exactly the same reason, so if we've both come to that conclusion it's a fair stab that Slam is town. [yellow]Chez[yellow]inu - I have a hunch this guy is town, don't wanna talk about it really. TankTopTiger Frankly I think these 2 posts are a bit outrageous to make if you are mafia (and tbh probably shouldn't be asking them in the thread if you're town). So for this reason alone he should be town. When I think about his gameplay it's basically a tunnel on me - well, fine. There's 2 options here: 1. him and DP are working completely in tandem as a mafia pair. Sounds crazy but not impossible. 2. DP has pocketed TTT and DP is riding off TTT's fervour. This is what I think is most likely. This could be so true as well LightningStrike I really have nothing further to add than what rayn said, so I'm just gonna quote it. Just as an aside, if you are town and voting me you are ignoring the bolded bit. Although I would also tell you to ignore it, so I'm not actually trying to make much of a point here  DarthPunk He is always mafia. I've talked about why before, but for the sake of completeness, I will summarise it here again. Firstly, he too easily gave out townreads for quite a portion of the game. This is a mistake I desperately have to try not to fall into every time I play scum, and I don't always succeed. The weird early hard townread of die_meatbaby, when the rest of the townies were a lot more cautious, or actively calling dmb mafia (e.g. Koshi). The point (night 1 I think? I forget slightly) where he posted that he simply had "too many townreads" at a point I had 2 good townreads (Koshi and rayn). This is not a natural way for a townie to be thinking about the game, townies are a paranoid people. Readers, if you are town, ask yourself if you ever had too many townreads in this game. Secondly, the turnaround on VE. DP made a really long post with about 20 quotes from VE and came to the conclusion that VE was most likely town. rayn makes a comment about VE's emotion (or lack of) and DP, after thinking so hard about VE's alignment, just flops the other way. Readers, if you are town - how easy is it for you to change your mind when you have just spent a lot of time thinking about someone's alignment? Also, please read again the passage of play where I start calling DP mafia. He was not calling me mafia before that. He tells me he knew my scumread on him was coming - he knew he'd misplayed. Tell you what, if I'm town in DP's position there, as far as I'm concerned I've just listened to a very likely townie (rayn) and voted for mafia (VE). I'd be feeling nervous (about the lynch to come) but happy. I wouldn't be feeling guilty - "I knew this read on me was coming". The inherent guilt of being mafia. Then the way he starts calling me mafia - "FWIW I think marv could be mafia". Of course he just happens to wait until I have called him mafia, and then very casually says "FWIW". None of anything of what DP has done is how a townie thinks. Lynch him with fire I will not defend myself any further - this is my position. I will take no questions from DP because he is mafia. TTT - if you are just going to take the position that I am mafia spewing bs, fine. But assuming you are town, please go back, read my thoughts here again as if they are legitimately townie, and think about them. If you don't believe me, fine. Lynch me and then come back to this post. Why to you town read Chez? | ||
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On May 31 2023 03:23 marvellosity wrote: Right, this is going to be my last try. I am going to use my last big post as the basis for this one, below. It looks like I am 99% going to be lynched today, and the frustrating thing about that is ultimately if a townie gets lynched, it's on them for not being able to show the rest of town that they are town. So, sad times for me but I am at peace with it. What I'm still not at peace with is rayn falling off his townread on me. I never fell off my townread on him (he quoted a post in his 'vomit' goodbye post where it looks like I was calling him mafia because he started being suspicious of me - that wasn't the case at all, which I think should have been relatively clear by my terming it 'mega duped' by rayn - i.e. mega duped = i was hard townreading him. I just couldn't understand why when we'd been strong townreading each other that he'd stop. Because I got really convinced that DP was mafia? That seemed like a strange reason to stop hard townreading me). It also means I've probably misplayed today badly as well, objectively the right thing to do was probably to lynch LS and I am being screamed at in the observer chat why I didn't do that. Well, unfortunately I did not do that, and I am way too far in to want to do that now (and probably couldn't even if I wanted to). So alas, here we are... Most of all the above is still right as far as I am concerned. Some slight differences: LightningStrike is more likely to be mafia than what I posted there, the sheep on me was real bad (would still take it )Alakaslam I think is a bit less likely to be town based on his posts today. I also thought more about the reasoning that both rayn and I gave, and the plausible alternative is that a mafia-Slam changed votes from MZ to Vivax because why the fuck not? I still think this is the less likely version, because at the time Vivax was lynched, mafia did not know a vigilante would shoot and flip MZ. Meaning Slam didn't know it would look okay on him that he made the switch to Vivax. I know and understand that part of the reason rayn was suspicious of me, and probably the rest of you too, was that I didn't talk much about LS day 2. And voted VE late or something like that. The whole of D2 (Friday evening and all of Saturday) was just bad timing for me irl-wise, there's nothing more to it than that. From my perspective, I thought I had identified a mafia (DP), and we were merrily lynching VE (mafia), there did not seem to be much reason to talk about LS, he wasn't running away. I'm not going to say anything else in my defence. DarthPunk Somewhere today he posted a whole bunch of rayn posts to show that I am supposed to be mafia (not very good at making a proper case against me himself). I just really want town to remember that it wasn't clear like that for rayn at the time he died either: Obviously what I am including here is that rayn is betting that I am more likely mafia, well fine. But it's certainly not that he died giving DP a big town-read either. And, from my own perspective, I have one big advantage that rayn does not have, which is I know my own alignment. Imagine me making that post that rayn made (in fact many of our reads are fairly similar). rayn came down to the conclusion that it was between me, LS, and DP. Now, if I am making that post myself - let's say all the other reads are the same, Slam, DMB, etc etc. I would be left with 3 players the mafia could be between - rayn, LS, and DP. Except I strongly believed all game that rayn was town. Which brings the 3 options that rayn gives down to 2 options, DP and LS. It shouldn't be surprising that I am hard scumreading DP then! I was going to write a lot more about DP in this post, but it turns out I don't want to. I tried my best but I lost a lot of confidence. Either I am right on DP and no-one believes me and I am in an oasis on my own. Or I am very wrong and I'm still on my own. Because maybe I can come up with alternative explanations for some of what he's done. Maybe somehow he can have inherent guilt as town. I still find it hard to believe for this post: This was his original reaction when I started pointing things out: Like he is literally admitting my scumread on him is valid. But then I look at some other posts and they're not so bad again. So never mind There is a reason why they shoot on rayn in N2. It looks more like a plan from DP. They read the posts from rayn and it´s not really aigainst DP but more on you. Why should Mafia kill somebody who is aigainst them, because it would be to obvious. Dp was thinking before killing rayn what he is doeing and how he can use rayn´s posts to lynch somebody else. | ||
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On May 31 2023 04:56 marvellosity wrote: The problem is that rayn was the obvious shot regardless For me you seem more town then DP | ||
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On May 31 2023 05:00 marvellosity wrote: So this is going to sound like a strange question from someone who played a million games and you played 1. What would you be doing in my position right now? As you sad you are the expierenced player. Whose idea was it to shoot Rayn that night? Why do you think he was shot at and not you, TTT or me? I mean everyone is pretty sure that TTT and I are town. Why not kill the people who probably won't be voted out? | ||
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