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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:47 GMT
#1421
On May 25 2023 20:45 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:42 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.

I am glad we kept you.


just because i said you are one of the strongest player. I just repeat V´s words with the first sentence here.

You found a great partner in V.
A very intelligent man.
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 25 2023 11:47 GMT
#1422
On May 25 2023 20:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.


Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.

Or ask questions about it

Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.

Not having read it and all.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:49 GMT
#1423
On May 25 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.


Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.

Or ask questions about it

Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.

Not having read it and all.

Half of the town (the bad part) and all the mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 25 2023 11:50 GMT
#1424
On May 25 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.


Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.

Or ask questions about it

Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.

Not having read it and all.

Half of the town (the bad part) and all the mafia.


The broken clock is correct twice per day.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 25 2023 11:50 GMT
#1425
On May 25 2023 20:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence?

He didn't get a free walk. We attacked marv and then welcomed him in the town circle after vetting him.
It's ok if you missed that.
You might have read discussions about a mebaby post saying marv looked town that scammed people in a previous game and now everybody is attacking him.

Also. You say some people feel fake (because we force reads most likely), and then you don't like marv for "not exerting" any influence. That is a contradiction you should try to get rid of.
marv is indeed a calm player, and is not yelling and swearing. But he did get his preferred target 5 votes. So he influenced at least that. Or was that somebody else his doing?




Can you give me a time frame for when this vetting occurred? Because IMO that early nonsense where people push and pull based on nothing but farts means zero so establishing someone's alignment forevermore during that primordial soup is not a strong foundation for a town.

RE: Contradiction
It's not a contradiction. Having genuine reads is not the opposite of passivity. He asks a lot of questions (good), but then doesn't seem to take them anywhere in service to anything but his survival.

I don't like fake reads, I think they muddy shit up. They're necessary to get the ball rolling, but once the ball is rolling I expect genuine reads not empty accusations. The ball is rolling and has been for a while, so IMO we don't need them.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 11:52 GMT
#1426
On May 25 2023 20:47 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:45 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:42 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.

I am glad we kept you.


just because i said you are one of the strongest player. I just repeat V´s words with the first sentence here.

You found a great partner in V.
A very intelligent man.


typical man ego here
but not intelligent man you mean intelligent god with jesus cock on the floor
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 12:00 GMT
#1427
On May 25 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.


Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.

Or ask questions about it

Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.

i think you are right koshi should read what was writtin at this time take 10 min maybe. instead of decorating your shit like a litte princess you could read that.

Not having read it and all.

Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 12:01 GMT
#1428
On May 25 2023 21:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.


Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.

Or ask questions about it

Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.



Not having read it and all.



sorry postet it in the quote not after my mistake

i think you are right koshi should read what was writtin at this time take 10 min maybe. instead of decorating your shit like a litte princess you could read that.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 12:02 GMT
#1429
On May 25 2023 20:50 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:41 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence?

He didn't get a free walk. We attacked marv and then welcomed him in the town circle after vetting him.
It's ok if you missed that.
You might have read discussions about a mebaby post saying marv looked town that scammed people in a previous game and now everybody is attacking him.

Also. You say some people feel fake (because we force reads most likely), and then you don't like marv for "not exerting" any influence. That is a contradiction you should try to get rid of.
marv is indeed a calm player, and is not yelling and swearing. But he did get his preferred target 5 votes. So he influenced at least that. Or was that somebody else his doing?




Can you give me a time frame for when this vetting occurred? Because IMO that early nonsense where people push and pull based on nothing but farts means zero so establishing someone's alignment forevermore during that primordial soup is not a strong foundation for a town.

RE: Contradiction
It's not a contradiction. Having genuine reads is not the opposite of passivity. He asks a lot of questions (good), but then doesn't seem to take them anywhere in service to anything but his survival.

I don't like fake reads, I think they muddy shit up. They're necessary to get the ball rolling, but once the ball is rolling I expect genuine reads not empty accusations. The ball is rolling and has been for a while, so IMO we don't need them.

10-24 hours into the game.

Don't agree with "his survival". But ok.

fake reads are bad. I wonder what you define as fake though.


Anyway. marv is a big boy. Good to have you for secret reasons.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 12:03 GMT
#1430
On May 25 2023 21:01 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 21:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.


Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.

Or ask questions about it

Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.



Not having read it and all.



sorry postet it in the quote not after my mistake

i think you are right koshi should read what was writtin at this time take 10 min maybe. instead of decorating your shit like a litte princess you could read that.

I won't do both most likely.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 12:04 GMT
#1431
On May 25 2023 20:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.


Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.

Or ask questions about it

Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.

Not having read it and all.

Half of the town (the bad part) and all the mafia.


The broken clock is correct twice per day.

As far as we know that is twice times more than you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 12:04 GMT
#1432
twice times
lol
I had a good night of sleep.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 12:06 GMT
#1433
On May 25 2023 21:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 21:01 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 21:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.


Well in the interest of accuracy then, maybe you shouldn't put weight on that section of the game if you don't care to read. it.

Or ask questions about it

Or declare you will lynch half the town as a result of it.



Not having read it and all.



sorry postet it in the quote not after my mistake

i think you are right koshi should read what was writtin at this time take 10 min maybe. instead of decorating your shit like a litte princess you could read that.

I won't do both most likely.


okey you don´t want to read it... then tell whats your opinionen on VE. After what happend there was making my opinion on Ve change for 180°
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 25 2023 12:08 GMT
#1434
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.

I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.

From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.

I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.

So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.

Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.

Not exerted any influence? My target would have been lynched if not for some crazy EOD shenanigans and the fact i was asleep. How Much more influence do you want?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 25 2023 12:11 GMT
#1435
On May 25 2023 21:04 Koshi wrote:
twice times
lol


exquisite, truly
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 25 2023 12:12 GMT
#1436
Can I get other people's input on when Marv was vetted? Do people have strong reasons why he's green?

Rayn, I remember seeing you post something of the like "you're bad if you don't think Marv is town". Can I get reasons for that?

I too think Koshi should read the thread as well also. I'm not going to take him seriously if he's taking wild swings at people without having read what transpired.

@Koshi
I think there was a misunderstanding on my end. You interpreted my feeling people acted "fake" as a response to people forcing reads. I took that to mean their reads were fake, but see how that might not be the case. I was not only talking about the forced reads, but they are a large part of it.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 25 2023 12:12 GMT
#1437
On May 25 2023 20:50 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:41 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence?

He didn't get a free walk. We attacked marv and then welcomed him in the town circle after vetting him.
It's ok if you missed that.
You might have read discussions about a mebaby post saying marv looked town that scammed people in a previous game and now everybody is attacking him.

Also. You say some people feel fake (because we force reads most likely), and then you don't like marv for "not exerting" any influence. That is a contradiction you should try to get rid of.
marv is indeed a calm player, and is not yelling and swearing. But he did get his preferred target 5 votes. So he influenced at least that. Or was that somebody else his doing?




Can you give me a time frame for when this vetting occurred? Because IMO that early nonsense where people push and pull based on nothing but farts means zero so establishing someone's alignment forevermore during that primordial soup is not a strong foundation for a town.

RE: Contradiction
It's not a contradiction. Having genuine reads is not the opposite of passivity. He asks a lot of questions (good), but then doesn't seem to take them anywhere in service to anything but his survival.

I don't like fake reads, I think they muddy shit up. They're necessary to get the ball rolling, but once the ball is rolling I expect genuine reads not empty accusations. The ball is rolling and has been for a while, so IMO we don't need them.

Again, to reiterate, confirmed town VIvax made the same case at almost the same time as me on MZ

Seriously, think about it a bit. Vivax’s read is literally confirmed townie. Mine, made at the same time is …… ?

Fill in the dots for me xx
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 12:15 GMT
#1438
On May 25 2023 21:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.

I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.

From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.

I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.

So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.

Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.

Not exerted any influence? My target would have been lynched if not for some crazy EOD shenanigans and the fact i was asleep. How Much more influence do you want?


if you are town you will die in the first night for shure. Mafia are to scared of good players like you, so they make you die, because they know people would vote me out directly and so we lose 3 town people in D1 N1 and D2.
If you don´t die in this night you are more likly to be mafia (for me) and people would vote on you on d2
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 25 2023 12:16 GMT
#1439
On May 25 2023 21:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 21:08 marvellosity wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.

I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.

From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.

I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.

So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.

Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.

Not exerted any influence? My target would have been lynched if not for some crazy EOD shenanigans and the fact i was asleep. How Much more influence do you want?


if you are town you will die in the first night for shure. Mafia are to scared of good players like you, so they make you die, because they know people would vote me out directly and so we lose 3 town people in D1 N1 and D2.
If you don´t die in this night you are more likly to be mafia (for me) and people would vote on you on d2

I don’t think you will be voted out day 2.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 25 2023 12:17 GMT
#1440
On May 25 2023 21:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:50 TankTopTiger wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:41 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence?

He didn't get a free walk. We attacked marv and then welcomed him in the town circle after vetting him.
It's ok if you missed that.
You might have read discussions about a mebaby post saying marv looked town that scammed people in a previous game and now everybody is attacking him.

Also. You say some people feel fake (because we force reads most likely), and then you don't like marv for "not exerting" any influence. That is a contradiction you should try to get rid of.
marv is indeed a calm player, and is not yelling and swearing. But he did get his preferred target 5 votes. So he influenced at least that. Or was that somebody else his doing?




Can you give me a time frame for when this vetting occurred? Because IMO that early nonsense where people push and pull based on nothing but farts means zero so establishing someone's alignment forevermore during that primordial soup is not a strong foundation for a town.

RE: Contradiction
It's not a contradiction. Having genuine reads is not the opposite of passivity. He asks a lot of questions (good), but then doesn't seem to take them anywhere in service to anything but his survival.

I don't like fake reads, I think they muddy shit up. They're necessary to get the ball rolling, but once the ball is rolling I expect genuine reads not empty accusations. The ball is rolling and has been for a while, so IMO we don't need them.

Again, to reiterate, confirmed town VIvax made the same case at almost the same time as me on MZ

Seriously, think about it a bit. Vivax’s read is literally confirmed townie. Mine, made at the same time is …… ?

Fill in the dots for me xx


Yes dear. You are town. Good job.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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