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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:23 GMT
#1401
On May 25 2023 20:04 Grackaroni wrote:
TankTopTiger has replaced [UoN]Sentinel

Welcome.
Please become TankTopTiger the TipTopTown.
No pressure.
I had a good night of sleep.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 11:23 GMT
#1402
On May 25 2023 20:15 marvellosity wrote:
Can I just note for one moment that confirmed town Vivax had almost the exact same case on MZ that I did.

Give it a think.


I already thought about it and i don´t have a good feeling about MZ either. But also think he playes with VE

VE was the one who didn´t want to vote on me and had pity on me. But at this time it looked bad for MZ and VE was trying to convience more people to vote on Vivax than MZ
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:25 GMT
#1403
On May 25 2023 20:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
onegu too boss to be town.
vivax too little paranoid to be town.

after this post V got many votes

Do you think there was some hypnotic message hidden behind that message that made others vote Vivax?


no not really. Was smart from him. At the start of the game when I was saying he and V are mafia. He was never saying something that make people think about V as m. After we talked at this point i was writing somewhere that i would easy switch my opinion from him to town just need more writing stuff. after that he going to post this and all people start to be against V

I wonder what rayn his secret is.
I typed Vivax is town and for some reason that didn't stop 6 people to vote for him.

Do you think rayn arranges his words in a special way to make it more convincing?
I had a good night of sleep.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 25 2023 11:25 GMT
#1404
Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.

I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.

From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.

I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.

So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.

Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:26 GMT
#1405
amazing
I had a good night of sleep.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 11:27 GMT
#1406
On May 25 2023 20:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
onegu too boss to be town.
vivax too little paranoid to be town.

after this post V got many votes

Do you think there was some hypnotic message hidden behind that message that made others vote Vivax?


no not really. Was smart from him. At the start of the game when I was saying he and V are mafia. He was never saying something that make people think about V as m. After we talked at this point i was writing somewhere that i would easy switch my opinion from him to town just need more writing stuff. after that he going to post this and all people start to be against V

I wonder what rayn his secret is.
I typed Vivax is town and for some reason that didn't stop 6 people to vote for him.

Do you think rayn arranges his words in a special way to make it more convincing?


Yes think about it if have now no idea if he actl. t or m
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 25 2023 11:27 GMT
#1407
On May 25 2023 20:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:05 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
onegu too boss to be town.
vivax too little paranoid to be town.

after this post V got many votes

Do you think there was some hypnotic message hidden behind that message that made others vote Vivax?


no not really. Was smart from him. At the start of the game when I was saying he and V are mafia. He was never saying something that make people think about V as m. After we talked at this point i was writing somewhere that i would easy switch my opinion from him to town just need more writing stuff. after that he going to post this and all people start to be against V

I wonder what rayn his secret is.
I typed Vivax is town and for some reason that didn't stop 6 people to vote for him.

Do you think rayn arranges his words in a special way to make it more convincing?


I can tell you the answer: he actually provides reasons for all his reads, and those tend to resonate with people.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 11:31 GMT
#1408
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.

I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.

From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.

I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.

So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.

Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.



first post = amazing post
right now i think VE, MZ, are m but could also inkl. marv or rayn. i am just shure that not both of them are m just one
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:32 GMT
#1409
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 25 2023 11:34 GMT
#1410
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi, I'm the sub for Sentinel. I'm caught up, but just pushed 1400 posts through my brain at top speed so don't expect me to be 100% on the ball. I'm going off vibes, so please feel free to correct me.

I've played before, maybe 10 newbie games. I'm an IRL friend of DP. I've also played meatspace werewolf a fair amount. I haven't played forum mafia in close to a decade, and don't really plan on approaching the game the same way anyway.

From what I see, there seems to be some mutual respect between Rayne, DP, and Marv. Almost like they are playing for who controls the endgame and the rest of you are just the social environment that facilitates it. Out of the three, I have no idea why people are acting like Marv is obviously town. He plays like an empty vessel. I'm obviously not part of whatever meta you guys have, but IMO MZ's aggression towards Marv has been warranted.

I would have voted for Vivax over MZ, who I get a town read off.

So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence? IMO both Rayn and DP have provided insight, and in my eyes are earning their status, but not Marv.

Regarding VE, they strike me as committed to a bit. I'm not sure why they had such insane confidence, but honestly, a lot of how you guys talk comes off as fake to me.


You realise marv lead the wagon on MZ right. So that [i]literally [/i ]means he was exerting influence.

I think there are probably two camps in regards to reading marvs alignment disclaimer: i haven;t played with these guys for 7 years before this.

1: meta marv has a bit of a rep (unfairly IMO) of not being a great player of scum and going afk/being inactive.

2. the things he has said has resonated with the thoughts of others who were thinking similar things at the same time and: he seems to be trying to figure out the game with his thoughts and questions.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 25 2023 11:36 GMT
#1411
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 11:38 GMT
#1412
The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 11:40 GMT
#1413
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.


sorry mistake ... he could be mafia when he not dies in the first night
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:41 GMT
#1414
On May 25 2023 20:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
So I guess my first question is why Marv is just getting a free walk here? What makes everyone so certain he's town when for the most part he's not exerted any influence?

He didn't get a free walk. We attacked marv and then welcomed him in the town circle after vetting him.
It's ok if you missed that.
You might have read discussions about a mebaby post saying marv looked town that scammed people in a previous game and now everybody is attacking him.

Also. You say some people feel fake (because we force reads most likely), and then you don't like marv for "not exerting" any influence. That is a contradiction you should try to get rid of.
marv is indeed a calm player, and is not yelling and swearing. But he did get his preferred target 5 votes. So he influenced at least that. Or was that somebody else his doing?


I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:42 GMT
#1415
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.

I am glad we kept you.
I had a good night of sleep.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 25 2023 11:43 GMT
#1416
I don't see that as exerting influence proactively in a townish way. He had someone attacking him relentlessly, and so he pushed back. That's not the same as actively hunting for mafia and in my eyes he gets no points for it. It's a struggle not to push back on people who attack you.

I'm open to being wrong, like I said, I read it all kinda fast and for a good portion it was difficult to keep track of who's who. So receipts for Marv being proactively town would be appreciated.

The only thing I really remember is when he attacked VE's list post around post 300, but Rayn had already done that and it was an obviously bad post.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 25 2023 11:44 GMT
#1417
EBWOP^
@DP
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 11:45 GMT
#1418
On May 25 2023 20:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.

I am glad we kept you.


just because i said you are one of the strongest player. I just repeat V´s words with the first sentence here.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 25 2023 11:46 GMT
#1419
On May 25 2023 20:45 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:42 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
The thing is a heard before we started the game marv and Koshi are the most strong gamer (said by Vivax) Koshi is going to hard in this thread to be mafia. Would be to fucking insane if he realy is. Marv make like mild and save posts here. Also looked like he tried to get the attention from mafia on me. But i would wait now what will happen in the night. Mafia can kill somebody it will not be me becauce i will get voted out soon, becauce i played in my unique crazy style. If marv dies in the first night i will def vote on MZ or VE but first MZ for shure. If marv don´t die in the first night i could be mafia. Mafia only let people die who scare them, I am def not one of them becauce almost killed my self here with my random thoughts.

I am glad we kept you.


just because i said you are one of the strongest player. I just repeat V´s words with the first sentence here.


That ego. :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2023 11:46 GMT
#1420
On May 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

I think you both may vote for Vivax if you want to, i am not gonna stand in the way. I just don't think you're likely to lynch mafia, although there is a chance he is mafia lol.. I guess that's me saying it's not my preferred lynch in a way, or i dont even know what i am saying anymore, havent slept in almost a day.

Do what you do, i dont think there is any more players for me to change their opinion onto what i want o be the lynch, so up to you. If you dont want Meapak lynched, do something about it.


On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.


Have you read all the posts yet?

I literally asked him why, and he gave no reasons, and then later tacitly agreed with VE that it was because of the fact that you had all agreed to the lynch prior and he didn't want scum to influence at the end.

The next time I take a shit I will put some glitter on it, look at it for 30 seconds and flush.
I think that will be more tasteful than reading the 350 posts before the Vivax lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
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