EPTOn May 25 2023 17:33 Koshi wrote:
I am still amazed
I am still amazed
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marvellosity
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Vivax
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DarthPunk
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On May 25 2023 17:23 marvellosity wrote: DP, what’s your best guess at a scumteam? Promise I won’t hold you to it but I’m struggling to see where you think the 3 mafia might lie given your posts. I feel like you are mind reading me right now. Cause I was worrying about that just before deadline, there are too many town reads. Honestly, I am feeling a bit outclassed in this game, there are a cohort (rayn and koshi) of really strong players who have strong control over the thread and seem town to me. I am legitimately paranoid that for various reasons they will never be considered as mafia and then we just lose straight up but much like you said, I think it is what it is at this point. They look better or worse to me depending on their posting but solid town for the most part. You are probably my strongest town read right now in a vacuum not considering meta, thread presence, etc. The next tier of town reads was Alakaslam, basically because he agreed with things I agreed with and when he posted seemed quite productive and pro town, nothing he has said or done makes me think he is mafia. Next tier is VE. he is a bit of a mess, and the reaction to the flip seemed to feel like an over reaction. Basically I was feeling pretty good on him but I am less confident after that wagon on Vivax. DMB I am worried she just really overperformed as a new mafia player and sufficiently shit up the thread or was the obvious lynch for long that we basically over thought it. I still think my analysis prior to the flip was right, but I don't know what it means that Vivax, who she was sooo sure of flipped town. Probably it means she is less likely to be town. AfK tier is CHEZ, Onegu no read at this point. Don't like Lightning strike but he didn't lynch the doctor so that is something in his favor I suppose, depends on MZ alignment if it matters or not. MZ is a coinflip at this point. Basically my scum team would be looking something like Lightning strike 2 of DMB, VE, MZ, Onegu with the lurkers potentially switching out somewhere. I am not feeling great with that but its where I am pretty much. I am also really annoyed that Rayn would not tell me why Vivax was not mafia, because I literally asked him in the thread, and he said basically he could be mafia, that he wouldn't stop me lynching him, and that the reason he wouldn't lynch vivax is that his town reads were asleep and so it would be disproportionately affected by scum ( paraphrasing) | ||
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marvellosity
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Town argument is that she has a meta read on Vivax for how he plays games IRL and he’s not matching that, I can really understand that. Mafia argument is that Vivax is a convenient tunnel target given their relationship and Vivax is unlikely to be lynched (lol) so it can be a relatively long term strat. I just hope either way that she picks herself up and really plays. | ||
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marvellosity
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DarthPunk
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On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. I can understand not wanting to get down in the dirt with the plebs | ||
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die_meatbaby
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On May 25 2023 17:59 Vivax wrote: gg sorry babyy couldn't live with the fact that you are satisfied with such less information in the thread. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 25 2023 18:17 die_meatbaby wrote: sorry babyy couldn't live with the fact that you are satisfied with such less information in the thread. Time to redeem him and catch the mafia so we can all ride off into the sunset together. Now you have a clean slate, you clearly know that rayn and vivax are not mafia together, that should give you some space to take a fresh perspective and let us know what you think about everyones alignment at this point. | ||
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Koshi
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On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 25 2023 18:17 DarthPunk wrote: I can understand not wanting to get down in the dirt with the plebs I mean if you were feeling ‘outclassed’ why exactly did you end up on the opposite wagon of your top 3 townreads? Logically that’s the perfect time to sheep… | ||
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Koshi
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That would have been a nice catch. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 25 2023 18:20 marvellosity wrote: I mean if you were feeling ‘outclassed’ why exactly did you end up on the opposite wagon of your top 3 townreads? Logically that’s the perfect time to sheep… I mean that now obviously, because I don't think VE could have realistically lynched Vivax without me. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote: Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. | ||
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Koshi
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On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote: What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote: I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. Ok then. | ||
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Koshi
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Truly amazing. | ||
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marvellosity
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I think it’s an incredibly natural townie reaction to have that sort of doubt. Honestly the evolution of my play over time has been increasing self doubt. The positive side to that is you tunnel less townies into oblivion. The downside is you tunnel less mafia into oblivion too. I don’t know what to make of VE’s lack of doubt on Vivax, especially since such active/strong players were voicing doubts to him all day. Same with MZ’s lack of doubt about me tbh. Neither are natural to me. But VE is a totally different sort of player to me. | ||
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Koshi
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On May 25 2023 18:29 DarthPunk wrote: The problem is I am town, so if you are town, then this is going to be pretty awkward at some point. Nope. Town kills Vivax train. Mafia kills MZ train. We will never meet. It is ride or die with rayn and marv now. LS will be our Robin. | ||
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