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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 15:20 GMT
#673
On May 25 2023 00:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 00:01 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 00:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
i made i vote on v as well


But I‘m not scum for f0cks sake.
It‘s like you made a meme read into a real read and are now stuck with it.


Problem is I know you in Rl good. People behave dif in the internet but you behave the same thing when you are waiting on me from work and want to tell me something you did (what you know i don´t want you to do) and you just trying to talk normal and you change when you see i am looking to much in your eyes. Your are def hiding something from me ... means mafia.. sorry babyy but i know you to good. And maybe its cheating as well, but you ask me to sign up with you in this game. So sorry for anlysing your chats here, but you should not play with girl who just knows you


My post persona is a lot different from my real persona. I‘m almost the inverse of myself while posting as town. The mafia persona is closer to my true self.

I could find it believable if you had more than the tunnel on me going on. I just found a discrepancy in Slam‘s posts, so why not pay attention to it in a scenario where I‘m not mafia ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 16:18 GMT
#686
On May 25 2023 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, how is MB’s characterisation of your RL play vs internet play? Does it make sense?


She‘s basically saying it’s intuition based. But if so, her intuition is wrong. Maybe there‘s something she thought was off irl, but then it doesn‘t belong in the game.

Tonally one of her better posts as I could see it being sincere while inaccurate.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 16:32 GMT
#689
On May 25 2023 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
Okay. So who are you lynching today?


Still her, in all likelihood. At least while Koshi thinks so too. Though it‘s a dick move on my side and I‘d rather have neglected her existence for the duration of D1 as I have made clear, I think. Some bias on my part is unavoidable.

Depending on the flip I might make you responsible for that outcome
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 16:36 GMT
#690
On May 25 2023 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 18:52 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 18:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 18:44 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 18:40 marvellosity wrote:
I’m not sure what’s going on


I believe DP thinks I got extra info, but doesn't think I'm mafia.
Granted, I've been trying to be a bit sensible when it felt like you pulled down his pants in front of everyone in the first few pages.


No I think she said you've been at home for two hours reading the thread and not posting.

Which, is extra info she has, and if she has been using it to form reads then it makes her play mildly less confusing I gues.

Also my pants never got pulled down. I have thoroughly maintained my dignity in this thread.


i will pull of pants from all of you and then you can see what i can see.... JUST DICKS AND ASSHOLES

Hijole


That‘s about my reaction.
Re previous post: So I take you think DP and marv could be teamed but somehow marv is supatown or am I misreading that
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 17:03 GMT
#695
On May 25 2023 01:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Vivax seemed fine with meat
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 06:49 Vivax wrote:
VE seems like another VE compared to how he approached the game initially. Might rethink the TR down the road. I take issue in the fact that his first post had that ‚aha‘ component while the followup ended up all over the place with little regard as to who the vote ends up on.

As for MB, I don‘t read the derpy reasoning as AI. Knowing the character of the player, it could be mild trolling or a beginner‘s approach to pressuring me.

I‘m probably biased, but the mech talk appears disingenous enough to be town imo. I prefer to leave that slot to others to figure out. By others I mostly mean my townreads Koshi, Rayn, LS atm.

Got to filter MZ still.

Until this post here....then the tone shifts dramatically. It's less about trying to figure out meat's alignement and seems way more like trying to justify the eventual vote.
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 08:21 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 08:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 07:59 Koshi wrote:
On May 24 2023 07:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 07:37 Koshi wrote:
@Mebaby: one more Q, how do you feel about Vivax not wanting to scumread you even though you are aiming for his testicals this entire game?
First of al his testicals are mine now no matter if in rl or online. I think he would not scumread me ever, because he would be scared to cook and feed the snake every day on his own..

Ok. So him being meek is NAI ( not allignment indicative).

Did you see me proof that Vivax and rayn didnt leave together and that rayn was active continiously and Vivax only made 2 posts? So rayn being there when Vivax made those 2 posts is just a coincidence?
And how did you "feel" that they were hiding and posting together when you were sleeping at that time?



yeah and I know you guys played this game sence years but and you have different techniques to play, and you already played with each other and know how they played. I just try my own style to get a win for als Townies
But still i feel not good about Vivax in the game he is just to quiet to be town and he just write safe phrases. Like he realyy suspect for me


You don't know how I usually play. And that's not about the discord timing thing either. There were a bunch of people posting at similar timings, not just me and rayn. That's what Koshi was pointing out among other things.

Maybe you think that's a way of reading people, but nobody else does . Where was any indication that me and rayn posted in tandem? Why should we ?

On the other hand it could 'dumbtell' you as the lack of knowing that mafia chat isn't that super active could mean you're town.

This bears out in following posts, I won't post them all because they all say the same thing. I'll summarize:

"Hum haw, I think meat is meat and gawrsh I feel bad but out of my hands, talk to rayn/koshi! *shrugz0rz*"

##Vote Vivax


Accurate. But doesn‘t make me scum.
I believe it‘s understandable with some basic empathy.

You don‘t exactly want to put your partner under pressure early while you think both could be town. That‘s what she did. Then again she thought we‘d be mostly shitposting judging by the recklessness.

I could understand maybe a tinfoil world where we‘re both mafia and she hated the role and bussed me right off the bat but me scum+her town seems like a strange conclusion for you to make.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 17:04 GMT
#696
I think Koshi entertained that world
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 17:17 GMT
#699
I‘ma put you on snooze then cause that‘s a whole lot of rendentious misrep you got going there.

But I almost do wish that it‘s going to be convincing for anyone.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 17:30 GMT
#704
On May 25 2023 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I still think the meat train sucks. Like, I'm filtering Vivax now and I'd much rather lynch that than the meaty one. Here I'll show you.

Where did the one of marv/DP is scum end and why?

Did you not hear my song?

Marv and DP both look better on reread, idk if work/sleep changed my perspective, but they both seem town now. I couldn't even remember when I woke up and filtered MYSELF why I actually thought marv was mafia. DP has been like ubertryhard town the whole time.

I'm more interested in why you give a shit unless you want to lynch one of DP or marv and why you aren't CURRENTLY voting Vivax.


That‘s kinda a red flag.
The intention might be like Koshi‘s but at times comes across as synthetischen
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 18:05 GMT
#728
I‘m slightly bothered by the timing of MZ +1ing VE on me.
If you think that part of my post was wifom then you already have had to assume that I‘d have to resort to it, or not ?

Lowkey reads like I was supposed to scumread DMB harder while you posted your opinion on her alignment after that accusation.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 18:09 GMT
#732
Granted, MZ doing that gives VE town equity and I don‘t believe they are paired.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 18:09 GMT
#734
On May 25 2023 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 03:05 Vivax wrote:
I‘m slightly bothered by the timing of MZ +1ing VE on me.
If you think that part of my post was wifom then you already have had to assume that I‘d have to resort to it, or not ?

Lowkey reads like I was supposed to scumread DMB harder while you posted your opinion on her alignment after that accusation.

That's really rich coming from you after Marv +1'd your suspicions of me literally 2 minutes after you posted.


They are old suspicions
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 18:15 GMT
#739
On May 25 2023 03:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 03:09 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 03:05 Vivax wrote:
I‘m slightly bothered by the timing of MZ +1ing VE on me.
If you think that part of my post was wifom then you already have had to assume that I‘d have to resort to it, or not ?

Lowkey reads like I was supposed to scumread DMB harder while you posted your opinion on her alignment after that accusation.

That's really rich coming from you after Marv +1'd your suspicions of me literally 2 minutes after you posted.


They are old suspicions

What does this mean? I've had suspicions of you since the beginning of D1.


That we agreed upon you as an option a while ago already.
It was kinda mindmeldy
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 18:51 GMT
#780
Well I don't think Becca had a grudge on you for being thrown into a game we play in a clerical manner when she wanted to shitpost.

At least I think that could be part of the reason for me looking so juicy to MB. Aside from my dashing looks.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 19:06 GMT
#793
On May 25 2023 03:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 03:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is?

I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only.

It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore.

I'm referring specifically to Vivax and meat, not the rest of us.

You may not know this but my ex Becca has played here. I don't know if anyone here played with her, she only played one or two games. But I played Video Mafia with her too and my read on Vivax/meat is specifically based on my meta knowledge of that dynamic.

Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened.

Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him.


Again first game.
got the role. For me it was yeah of course I am town why should they make the new one mafia to risk. Especially after my bf told me this is like a legendary rematch after years.
Found out the roles came automaticly by a software. (information I should get somewhere in rules, because I was never talking to V about the till I got pissed about my language.) Also o just learned by reading here and didn't got explained anything from V expect the fact he wanted to fear me about you guys. Told me you never know with who you playing could be famous people, people working for government and so on, but nothing else.
Second he told few seconds before start maybe I need discord if I get mafia, okey so I found out they talk to each other, makes them more hard to find.
Was trying to read old games saw a few names from here as well. Just thought beeing less active here means less opinion to find mafia. That's the reason why I think V is M
I would never be writing so much and so active if I have do hide, because that's what you do when you hide.

Like I'm not voting this guys you can't make me.


If she flipped town I'd probs embark on a revenge trip. As it is though, I have a townread on the three who want her dead the most so I can't play favor mafia and might have to slay my bby for the sake of my town circle.

It's emotionally damaging to play like this ngl. Only reasonable to opt for one of us to get voted out first.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 19:13 GMT
#800
On May 25 2023 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think it's way more likely she's town, poking and prodding the one person she knows in the thread, trying to figure out his alignment, in a way she thinks town won't lynch her for, very actively, and she FUCKING NAILED HIS COCK TO THE FLOOR!


I even handed her the tools prior to that
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 19:17 GMT
#805
On May 25 2023 04:15 Koshi wrote:
If Vivax wants. I can lynch Chezinu.

I will blame Vivax then if she flips mafia rb later.


Could do Chezinu. But just cause you are suggesting it and became some sort of bodhisattva of mafia on D1s according to last game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 19:23 GMT
#814
I wasn't aware DMB knew my mafia meta.

It's quite simple, really. As town I'll run you an ironman, while as mafia I could tops do 1/10th of a marathon cause I'm mostly addicted to guessing things and I don't get that as mafia. You could have just asked tho.

##Unvote
##Vote Chezinu


Here's your cake. The cake is a lie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 19:26 GMT
#816
On May 25 2023 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 04:22 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:17 Koshi wrote:
Can we lynch people on their birthday? That sounds against the rules.


you can and you can vote me out becauce you don´t believe in me beeing town.
I am just against vote from V because he don´t think i am mafia and just voting on me of self protection and mostly becauce a was writing some mean words. He vote on me becauce of personal reasons. I was cringed about my snake comment last night, got personly offend from me this morning and just vote becauce he is pissed on me (online not in rl)

Vivax elaborate please.


On May 24 2023 19:48 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna take a break from my battlestation.
Getting refuge in audacity vibes, maybe. I'm hoping for a bunch of posts that fit the situation and aren't edgelordism.

For instructional purposes: A policy lynch is a lynch designed to remove toxic players from the game, which I am currently very happy to do because I like my eyes intact.


My mood after the rude posts.
I think it was in the morning?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 19:49 GMT
#827
On May 25 2023 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 04:26 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:22 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:17 Koshi wrote:
Can we lynch people on their birthday? That sounds against the rules.


you can and you can vote me out becauce you don´t believe in me beeing town.
I am just against vote from V because he don´t think i am mafia and just voting on me of self protection and mostly becauce a was writing some mean words. He vote on me becauce of personal reasons. I was cringed about my snake comment last night, got personly offend from me this morning and just vote becauce he is pissed on me (online not in rl)

Vivax elaborate please.


On May 24 2023 19:48 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna take a break from my battlestation.
Getting refuge in audacity vibes, maybe. I'm hoping for a bunch of posts that fit the situation and aren't edgelordism.

For instructional purposes: A policy lynch is a lynch designed to remove toxic players from the game, which I am currently very happy to do because I like my eyes intact.


My mood after the rude posts.
I think it was in the morning?

(1) I am just against vote from V because he don´t think i am mafia and just voting on me of self protection and (2) mostly becauce a was writing some mean words. (3) He vote on me becauce of personal reasons.

answers 1, 2 and 3.


So you're saying it's too much at once?
It's a nonsensical push on me anyways. Same as it was on you. I think it was DP who asked to vig her, not the worst idea. If it's AI I cba to read too much into it on D1 unless she starts shitting up the thread. I also had a myriad of questions probably left unanswered to things I thought made her mafia but I also don't want to overblow her workload considering how much she's probably struggling with the English we use.

At least I'll have the splatters on the wall and not on my hands. Machiavellianism be damned.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
May 24 2023 19:57 GMT
#831
On May 25 2023 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 04:49 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:26 Vivax wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:22 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 25 2023 04:17 Koshi wrote:
Can we lynch people on their birthday? That sounds against the rules.


you can and you can vote me out becauce you don´t believe in me beeing town.
I am just against vote from V because he don´t think i am mafia and just voting on me of self protection and mostly becauce a was writing some mean words. He vote on me becauce of personal reasons. I was cringed about my snake comment last night, got personly offend from me this morning and just vote becauce he is pissed on me (online not in rl)

Vivax elaborate please.


On May 24 2023 19:48 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna take a break from my battlestation.
Getting refuge in audacity vibes, maybe. I'm hoping for a bunch of posts that fit the situation and aren't edgelordism.

For instructional purposes: A policy lynch is a lynch designed to remove toxic players from the game, which I am currently very happy to do because I like my eyes intact.


My mood after the rude posts.
I think it was in the morning?

(1) I am just against vote from V because he don´t think i am mafia and just voting on me of self protection and (2) mostly becauce a was writing some mean words. (3) He vote on me becauce of personal reasons.

answers 1, 2 and 3.


So you're saying it's too much at once?
It's a nonsensical push on me anyways. Same as it was on you. I think it was DP who asked to vig her, not the worst idea. If it's AI I cba to read too much into it on D1 unless she starts shitting up the thread. I also had a myriad of questions probably left unanswered to things I thought made her mafia but I also don't want to overblow her workload considering how much she's probably struggling with the English we use.

At least I'll have the splatters on the wall and not on my hands. Machiavellianism be damned.

Well tell me why you scumread her then if there is anything not said already in thread?
At least it gives me a better idea on your alignment.


I think I mentioned refuge in audacity. Then there's the fact she made a list at all and to top it off Chez was town in it.
Plus the tunnel on me not really making sense considering that we have a good relationship, but that's borderline oogi territory.

As Koshi said, unless she's just here to troll me as I initially assumed, she has no reason to assume we don't have the same win con. Then she mentioned some allegory about poker of which I didn't understand how it related to her read on me.

Why not just be a good lil sheep and try to perform instead, would be my guess. Though I'd be scumreading her for something that's more of a town trait of my own, I don't think it'd apply to her.
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