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On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3. 1) [UoN]Sentinel 2) Alakaslam 3) Chezinu 4) Vivax 5) LightningStrike 6) DarthPunk 7) Onegu 8) Koshi 9) die_meatbaby 10) raynpelikoneet 11) Meapak_Ziphh 12) marvellosity 13) VisceraEyes I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv. I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads. MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. So you’d follow a newbie you are pretty sure is townie over a vet (yourself) who you presumably know is townie? Okay VE | ||
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On May 24 2023 04:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: That post took about a million years to format properly so to sum up my problems with Marv in a post that's more succinct: I think Marv's play has been useless/scummy because his questions have not actually resulted in any real reads and he actively tries to distance himself from his only read of the game so far. He is filling space in the thread and looking active but his questions haven't produced a suspect he's willing to stand behind. For my own curiosity, can you make the other alignment argument based on my posting so far? How might that read? | ||
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On May 24 2023 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I don't think so at all, the MB discussion provided plenty of opportunities for people to come up with reads (again I'm in the "slight town" category) but Marv just danced around and asked questions rather than provide reads. So yes, the conversation was productive and Marv was also a useless part of it. You realise getting someone to give answers - by asking questions - is what allows others to make reads? | ||
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I am heavily biased, naturally. | ||
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On May 24 2023 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not usually one to draw it out like that either, that's just how I'm seeing things now...and like I said it's kinda moot right now because I don't want to lynch either of them. They're both maf players that will help me catch their teammates at least early on, so I'm into letting them. That reasoning is....commonplace, so marv taking issue with it is...interesting. He REALLY don't like the idea of lynching into lurkers it seems, which makes me WAAAAAAY more into doing so. Like I said, he helping me out :D Take a moment and re-read everything you’re saying. Go on… | ||
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On May 24 2023 04:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: It's not your job to make reads for others, its your job as a townie to come up with your own reads based on the thread as you read it. If you're asking questions it should be with the intention of refining or correcting your own reads. You still haven't been able to provide even one "I think I'm leaning scum on person X" post that you're willing to stand behind. DarthPunk doesn't count because you're not willing to stand behind it. It’s not a townie’s job to help other townies make reads. Better to leave them in the dark. Got it MZ👌 I’m aware this is incredibly WIFOM, but do you not think a mafia marv is capable of making reads (and further, forseeing it might be necessary)? | ||
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On May 24 2023 04:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: The way you help townies make reads is by providing your own and then discussing them, not by just asking questions for the sake of questions. I'm honestly not even going to address that second part until you can give me one tiny read on someone who's not DP. At least you're aware of how bad that WIFOM is. It’s not bad wifom, it is just what it is. To the bolded, you must understand there are multiple ways of playing as town. Your view there is very straightforward (and not wrong) but it’s not the only way. From my point of view, I am looking for information and that’s how I’m trying to gather it. I’m absolutely sure you can understand why a town player would ask a series of questions to MB, even if you don’t see a conclusion at the end of it (currently). Am I wrong? | ||
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On May 24 2023 05:02 Koshi wrote: Did you guys plan this mindmeld in mafia!Discord? Obviously | ||
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Also thinking I’m scummy for not wanting to lynch into lurkers is also at best bizarre. It’s not like mafia are known for wanting an easy lynch on a lurker or something, is it VE? (He asks pointedly) | ||
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On May 24 2023 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote: That's not what I find off-putting, and I think its adorable that you think it's easy to lynch a lurker in this environment. Chances are we will, as a collective, vote-switch onto someone active like DP or Koshi based on something either you or rayn said, it will be a whole thing, and then the lurkers will live on until tomorrow. PLEASE tell me you think anything else will happen so I can laugh at you relentlessly. I have just reread your filter and you don’t actually mention what you find off putting. Bit rude tbh dear. | ||
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On May 24 2023 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not obligated to say what I find off-putting until I try and lynch you. You know this, this is 101 shit. I taught you better. MZ should be all over you right now then…  | ||
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On May 24 2023 05:33 Koshi wrote: Noped out of that video under 1 minute Not even pressing play | ||
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On May 24 2023 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote: rayn: The sky is blue marv: The sky is blue koshi: :OOOOOOOOOOOO Tbh I don’t totally disagree but I’ll take it | ||
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I will try to organise my thoughts this morning. Tbh MB’s townreads on non existent players isn’t great, is it? | ||
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On May 24 2023 16:02 DarthPunk wrote: Nor the vote switch to Onegu after being so sure about vivax/rayn Hadn’t seen this! | ||
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On May 24 2023 16:18 Koshi wrote: Best case. I also thought of something else while driving to work that I need to check. Tbh it’s not bad at all and I may sheep you when it comes down to it (also, I may not). MB’s reasoning that you talk about feels incongruous with the earlier Vivax/rayn Discord posts. One is advanced meta, one is big online newbie. How do they mesh? | ||
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Koshi and rayn seem pretty-to-very town to me, at least if they are not I am not going to be catching them very soon. rayn thinks what I think a good bunch of the time. Koshi loves to vote for me d1 as town (not that that's the reason for the read, but ya know) DP I am no longer particularly suspicious of, I don't think I have a reason to be. VE I don't think I am suspicious of either. Some of his posts are very ?????? to me, but I don't think that makes him mafia. VE loves a big or crazy sort of play as mafia and he's not afraid to put himself out there, but I don't think it's like this? Vivax I am unsure of. Tonally I think he looks fairly town, but before I looked at his filter just now I'm at least somewhat suspicious of him. It feels to me that a town-Vivax should be using all his irl leverage to really question and dig into MB's alignment, rather than giving occasional summaries of his thoughts. I just imagine myself in Vivax's position - I would want nothing more than to determine the alignment of my friend. I did re-read his filter though and it also didn't scream mafia particularly apart from that, random comment about MB being mafia spews me town, is that something he writes as mafia? Slam could be anything (if there's a way to tell that I can't remember, enlighten me). LS I am also very null on. MB I don't have much else to add than what Koshi said and my response to what Koshi said not long ago. Could easily be mafia, meatbaby - I really encourage you to post your thoughts and reasoning behind them as much as possible today MZ I think is mafia. It was floating around in my brain yesterday, but the case against me at least looked clean and (some) of his posts maybe looked okay, so I wasn't sure how to pinpoint what I was thinking. But rayn's comments about MZ and how his posting style appeared to him in past games really resonated to me and helped me make sense of my thoughts. Actually his case against me is too clean/obvious, and I don't think he's actually trying to discern my alignment. I think he is playing the way an old-school scum player plays, relatively unruffly comments, targeting someone (me) that has at least some thread traction, a case that 'makes sense' but doesn't dig any further. ##vote: MZ P.S. I am slightly sad that we have 2 non-posters, I hope at least 2 mafia sit in the people actually playing, or it's gonna be sucky. | ||
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come back friend.
