EPTWhy are you so obtuse? Tunnelly only 1 word.
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Why are you so obtuse? Tunnelly only 1 word. | ||
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We can easily shit up the thread for however long we’re alive by being dickheads but ultimately that’s unlikely to help town either way (unless you are mafia of course  ). Can we agree on that? | ||
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On May 28 2023 17:59 marvellosity wrote: Just to talk about something else briefly, rayn and whoever else saying we need to lynch LS is right, the reaction stuff is still unnatural and his interest in the game just fell off a cliff which wouldn’t happen if he were town. Also I guess this is why it could not be the fairy tale world where both rayn and DP are mafia. | ||
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On May 28 2023 18:13 DarthPunk wrote: Absolutely, I'm sorry if it feels like I haven't treated you with civility, that was not my intention. I love you regardless | ||
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The reason is DP and VE are not the same players. VE is in a league of his own - in brilliant, crazy, and bad ways. He doesn’t fit the mould of what a “normal” player thinks like. DP does fit into the more typical mould. So if VE is making weird reads with weird reasons that feels quite normal to me. And a lot of people asked “would a mafia VE really do x/y/z” and I said yes he absolutely could… because he doesn’t fit the normal mould. If DP is doing something I don’t think is logical and I believe him to be a “standard” player my conclusions are going to be different. Frankly rayn’s suspicions have completely thrown me, because I can’t understand how or why he’d be suspicious of me, at all, when I strongly feel we’d been trying to figure out the game together for like 4 days now. So either rayn is mafia (which I don’t really believe for the reasons I’m shocked he’s suspicious of me) or I’m so wrong on DP that’s somehow made rayn suspicious of me. So it’s creating doubt on my read on you DP. Maybe (for example) your attacks on Koshi were just legitimate feelings, even though I could not see how anything you were saying could possibly make him mafia. Which is quite easy for me to fit into DP-scum narrative. But maybe you had crazy early strong townread on DMB, maybe you had “too many townreads” when I had about 2, maybe this happened because I don’t view the game in the same way as you do. Maybe. | ||
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It was this post (just had visions of you laughing at me in this way over and over which isn’t helpful) combined with your Koshi read. You haven’t actually been rude, I’m just being a snowflake. | ||
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I don’t care what does it for you either, I’ve explained my perspective and if you don’t accept that, there’s nothing else I can say about it. Nor did I say my DP read must not be correct, for the record, just that has given me a whole boatload of doubt I did not previously have. How would you feel if someone you were strongly townreading and you thought was strongly townreading you suddenly about faced on you? | ||
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On May 28 2023 19:38 DarthPunk wrote: I also think this is not quite right, I have always been a more balanced player than others, I literally used to get into massive fights as either alignment, I would use OMGUS, appeals to emotion, Flame, aggression, etc. etc. as either alignment. I definitely don't agree that I fit into the typecast strong townie that sacrifices their scum play, like Hapa, you at times etc. I have always felt I have played scummier town as a way to balance my mafia play. But anyway. this is all out of the game stuff. It’s all game stuff though, it’s just another definition of meta. | ||
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On May 28 2023 19:43 DarthPunk wrote: Do you really not understand the reasons as they are stated in the thread? No. Explain to me like I am a toddler. | ||
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On May 28 2023 19:50 DarthPunk wrote: I’m going to be really sad if you are town. Because then I was really lost in this game. Can I ask you another question actually? Why do you think ls is such an obvious lynch now, if you didn’t think of him at all yesterday? And what does it mean for my alignment if ls flips town does that change things for you? Because LS lynch becomes more and more obvious the longer the game goes on and hes not invested. Yesterday I didn’t need to think about him because I had 2 other strong mafia reads. Obviously if you are mafia as well as LS then he was bussing you, I don’t know if that’s realistic or not. How he treated VE, for example, was completely different. | ||
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Like Vivax said, well written posts. The sort of case that when a mafia tries to make a case on a townie they would make. If you don’t grasp the concept of how mafia tend to write in this sort of way more than townies, I don’t know how else to help you. Mafia cases are by definition untrue and insincere and so they need to be written with nice words and quotes to illustrate something that isn’t reality. | ||
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On May 28 2023 20:47 DarthPunk wrote: I guess this doesn’t really make sense because I definitely have not been making careful posts and you In fact jump on those as scummy mistakes or whatever. So it’s not really consistent if you think mafia make crafted posts and then my posts which are obviously not crafted make me mafia. Fwiw I don’t think I ever made crafted posts as mafia, so maybe that’s why it doesn’t ring true to me. Why do you think his case was obvious? Are you for fucking real that one thing that might make someone mafia has to be applied the same to someone else? All mafia must be caught in the same way? Come on. I have been extremely clear why I think you are mafia and the reasons behind that. The fact they aren’t the same as for MZ is totally irrelevant. | ||
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On May 28 2023 21:09 TankTopTiger wrote: And the obvious part of it? If the case on you was obvious, then it was only obvious because you deserved a case on you? How does this make sense? That I’m asking a bunch of questions and had not made much of them yet. That was obvious because at that point that’s exactly what I was doing. But that doesn’t make me mafia and the case got no traction because no one else thought it did either… I’m basically being attacked here because my read on MZ was believable enough to get thread traction and MZ’s read on me wasn’t, which is absolutely wild. | ||
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On May 28 2023 21:30 TankTopTiger wrote: Why did redVE throw suspicion on Marv early on then leave it in the dust when he rightfully knew there was no way Marv was being lynched D1? He basically doesn't mention marv the rest of the game. Why the **** not? So people like you can make these nonsense connections later, perchance? | ||
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On May 28 2023 20:59 DarthPunk wrote: That’s not the point of that post, the point is that people play differently and that a person can make crafted posts and this is not a really strong reason to make him mafia and lead a wagon on him. In fact I think the reason you voted him/pushed him was to discredit him and use your thread presence to get him lynched, because he nailed you as mafia for the exact reasons he stated. No reason to engage with you further. You’re either mafia or incapable of understanding anything I’m saying. Either way there’s no point in continuing. Again my read was strong enough for all the confirmed townies and rayn to go along with it, so if the reasoning wasn’t good then why did those people all follow? Why did town Koshi shoot MZ? Because there seemed to be legit reasons to think he was mafia. End of story… | ||
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