EPTTL Endures Mafia - Page 119
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TankTopTiger
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 15:22 TankTopTiger wrote: Vivax saying MZ was tunnely is not the same as you saying his case was clean or obvious. This. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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Rayn do you? | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 15:41 TankTopTiger wrote: So DP you don't know what he meant? Rayn do you? I'm guessing he meant it was too careful? but I think he was just telling the truth, that the case was obvious, because he had been caught doing exactly that. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 13:52 die_meatbaby wrote: Good morning. One M less here. Still nice play VE GG. Have to drink my coffee now and read the 10 Pages I missed. What are your thoughts? | ||
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marvellosity
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Why are you so obtuse? Tunnelly only 1 word. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 17:41 marvellosity wrote: Why are you so obtuse? Tunnelly only 1 word. Thats what vivax was saying though, the thrust of the matter. | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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We can easily shit up the thread for however long we’re alive by being dickheads but ultimately that’s unlikely to help town either way (unless you are mafia of course  ). Can we agree on that? | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 28 2023 17:59 marvellosity wrote: Just to talk about something else briefly, rayn and whoever else saying we need to lynch LS is right, the reaction stuff is still unnatural and his interest in the game just fell off a cliff which wouldn’t happen if he were town. Also I guess this is why it could not be the fairy tale world where both rayn and DP are mafia. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 17:59 marvellosity wrote: Just to talk about something else briefly, rayn and whoever else saying we need to lynch LS is right, the reaction stuff is still unnatural and his interest in the game just fell off a cliff which wouldn’t happen if he were town. I think he is probably sleeping. Otherwise he seemed very interested before he went to bed. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 18:07 marvellosity wrote: One other thing, DP if you aren’t mafia and you think I am mafia then please treat me civilly. Because I don’t think I have been a dick to you during my read on you. We can easily shit up the thread for however long we’re alive by being dickheads but ultimately that’s unlikely to help town either way (unless you are mafia of course ). Can we agree on that? Absolutely, I'm sorry if it feels like I haven't treated you with civility, that was not my intention. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 18:11 DarthPunk wrote: I think he is probably sleeping. Otherwise he seemed very interested before he went to bed. Oh you mean LS nevermind | ||
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marvellosity
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On May 28 2023 18:13 DarthPunk wrote: Absolutely, I'm sorry if it feels like I haven't treated you with civility, that was not my intention. I love you regardless | ||
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marvellosity
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The reason is DP and VE are not the same players. VE is in a league of his own - in brilliant, crazy, and bad ways. He doesn’t fit the mould of what a “normal” player thinks like. DP does fit into the more typical mould. So if VE is making weird reads with weird reasons that feels quite normal to me. And a lot of people asked “would a mafia VE really do x/y/z” and I said yes he absolutely could… because he doesn’t fit the normal mould. If DP is doing something I don’t think is logical and I believe him to be a “standard” player my conclusions are going to be different. Frankly rayn’s suspicions have completely thrown me, because I can’t understand how or why he’d be suspicious of me, at all, when I strongly feel we’d been trying to figure out the game together for like 4 days now. So either rayn is mafia (which I don’t really believe for the reasons I’m shocked he’s suspicious of me) or I’m so wrong on DP that’s somehow made rayn suspicious of me. So it’s creating doubt on my read on you DP. Maybe (for example) your attacks on Koshi were just legitimate feelings, even though I could not see how anything you were saying could possibly make him mafia. Which is quite easy for me to fit into DP-scum narrative. But maybe you had crazy early strong townread on DMB, maybe you had “too many townreads” when I had about 2, maybe this happened because I don’t view the game in the same way as you do. Maybe. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 17:50 marvellosity wrote: Okay. DP if you really are town then i see what happened, which is I wildly overestimated how rational or logical I thought you are. So you should take my read on you as a compliment. OOF. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 18:07 marvellosity wrote: One other thing, DP if you aren’t mafia and you think I am mafia then please treat me civilly. Because I don’t think I have been a dick to you during my read on you. We can easily shit up the thread for however long we’re alive by being dickheads but ultimately that’s unlikely to help town either way (unless you are mafia of course ). Can we agree on that? Can I ask why you posted this, because I can't see the part where I was not civil to you, I can see the parts where you call me bad and obtuse. Was it the part I laughed at your rayn scum read? Not that I am annoyed, or upset or anything. I just want to know: 1.) What I can do to improve my behavior 2.) where this is coming from | ||
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marvellosity
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It was this post (just had visions of you laughing at me in this way over and over which isn’t helpful) combined with your Koshi read. You haven’t actually been rude, I’m just being a snowflake. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On May 28 2023 18:45 marvellosity wrote: Someone somewhere asked me why I hadn’t said the same things about VE and DP in relation to the townreads, maybe MB specifically? The reason is DP and VE are not the same players. VE is in a league of his own - in brilliant, crazy, and bad ways. He doesn’t fit the mould of what a “normal” player thinks like. DP does fit into the more typical mould. So if VE is making weird reads with weird reasons that feels quite normal to me. And a lot of people asked “would a mafia VE really do x/y/z” and I said yes he absolutely could… because he doesn’t fit the normal mould. If DP is doing something I don’t think is logical and I believe him to be a “standard” player my conclusions are going to be different. Frankly rayn’s suspicions have completely thrown me, because I can’t understand how or why he’d be suspicious of me, at all, when I strongly feel we’d been trying to figure out the game together for like 4 days now. So either rayn is mafia (which I don’t really believe for the reasons I’m shocked he’s suspicious of me) or I’m so wrong on DP that’s somehow made rayn suspicious of me. So it’s creating doubt on my read on you DP. Maybe (for example) your attacks on Koshi were just legitimate feelings, even though I could not see how anything you were saying could possibly make him mafia. Which is quite easy for me to fit into DP-scum narrative. But maybe you had crazy early strong townread on DMB, maybe you had “too many townreads” when I had about 2, maybe this happened because I don’t view the game in the same way as you do. Maybe. Well, if you are town then this is probably a really good analysis, I think that I approach the game differently than the other veteran players, probably as a result of the last 7 years not playing, I feel like this group has really established ideas of what is good and why and what wasn't that open to other perspectives, although MZ and others read me town I don't think I played particularly well at the start of the game. VE for example owned me, but i also think you guys throw around calling people bad/dumb/mafia for being more correct or thinking differently really quickly and often. If you are mafia though I think I did well catching you. So that's something. | ||
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