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On September 01 2022 02:28 CopCake wrote:
Tbh rels part of the reason why I consider you are mafia is your thinking progression, on the other hand now seeing that you went against HF, I consider that would be like a stupid mafia move.
I don't see mafia rels winning something out of it.
In mafia rels eyes, I would let town misslynch, maybe pocket and sheep someone, then disappear, then come back and be like "Oh sorry guys busy"
Tinfoiling atm.
On September 01 2022 02:32 CopCake wrote:
Like, Rels went and picked one of the "Big vocal guys" and that doesn't compute unless MZ is mafia with him.
Cake.
First, what happened to these feelings you had EOD1?
Second, what do you mean, " that doesn't compute unless MZ is mafia with him"?? Isn't MZ your, like, main scumread? Or was at the time anyway?
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On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone?
Welcome back to the game mate 
What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning?
What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH?
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Cake, another question for you. Would you have voted dec over me in the hypothetical scenario where your vote would have be the deciding one between the 2 of us?
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On September 02 2022 11:59 Vivax wrote:
Chez latest lists make sense if he‘s assuming me or HF could be bussing two mates
? How so? Elaborate?
On September 02 2022 09:55 Chezinu wrote:
HF MZ RL
On September 02 2022 09:57 Chezinu wrote:
MZ Tub ??
(and who the fuck is RL between rayn or I?)
On September 02 2022 11:59 Vivax wrote:
Dandel made a massive case post on the wrong person (deco) when I threatened to death ray a scum, but also kinda ignored MZ
Source? Of that massive case post on deco?
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Regarding Dandel's "case" on decon, there is this:
On September 01 2022 02:54 Rels wrote:Where does this even come from Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 21:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is mafia and as a tight little bonus i'm pretty sure that if he flips red decon is the next scum.
It was at the end of his big case. It's all based on unflipped association. Nothing from decon himself. He hasn't talked about dec seriously apart from that, some jokey posts are and there about him but that's it.
Dandel fucking refuses to talk normally. He hasn't answer this post I've quoted. Normal process to get them is just to pressure him right? Making him spit out his reasoning, give him a chance to slip up, vote him out of this game if it's bad? WRONG. For some reason he's townread by the fucking entire planet having done one shitty case and nothing else. We voted out one perfectly normal player, normal looking interactions, not 100% town by any mean but a normal D1 filter, etc. Above that guy. And it's not like I didn't try to get him.
I don't understand.
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On September 02 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 09:58 Chezinu wrote:
There is usually that one mafia that votes against the others when there are 3 mafia for that town credits. Players like HF and Vivax would be the GF-like mafia style. This is Chez weighing combs and assuming one busser. I don't think it gets much townier than this
This last post makes me very curious too. But I asked him about it and he won't elaborate so it could just be random. I really want to understand what "town credits" Chez is talking about
On September 02 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
But I think it's Dandel, TS, Jock tbh
Jock is very good if he's scum. I see what you mean about him being uneasy to back off Dandel, that was my main concern too D1. But he has very quick and natural interactions, I didn't feel that uneasiness when I was talking to him. So maybe just didn't know how to handle Dandle, and now I can understand LOL.
Having reread EOD, he was pretty like, "smooth"? I think. Compared to Tube that just dumped a vote in the middle of the fury and didn't say much apart from another one very close to the deadline to defend himself against a very random accusation. Lol look at it (funnier with context though):
On September 01 2022 02:57 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 02:55 Alakaslam wrote:On September 01 2022 02:54 Koshi wrote:
Ok. 6 more mins but on page 37. Quick update? Rels is not mafia, MZ is not mafia, Deconduo is probably not mafia, I will bet Mattchew is Mattchew was the first to verbally dislike me. Why would we be together? Why are you not just pushing me?
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Regarding what I was saying earlier about Dandel & Tube not being partner due to their back to back vote:
I was wrong. Even though they're next to each other in the vote recap, they're actually pretty far apart, so what I feeling is not strong actually.
The votes themselves are 12 hours apart, and in the voting thread, they are 5 voting or unvoting posts between them
On August 31 2022 07:25 Tubesock wrote:
##Vote: Rels
[B]On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
[b]##Vote: Rels
In the main thread, Tube's vote comes at page 24, while Dandel's vote comes at page 32, so while the thread is in totally different context
So yeah, that's not the not-partner tell than I thought it might be
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I like what I see from you Vivax Dandel or Tube are both pretty likely scum in my mind. I want Dandel pressured, and not able to hide between shitty posts and one shitty case like he did all game.
##Unvote
##Vote Dandel Ion[/b]
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Going to sleep. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, anyone that I've asked questions to, answer them!!! EST evening are the only time I can fully play (even on weekends, maybe especially on weekends lol) and I understand that not many people are around, so please whatever your alignment, think of your fellow players!
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And thanks Vivax for stepping up
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QUESTIONS FOR TUBE
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/586368-chezinu-streaks-mafia?page=49#967
And I'm adding a new one that I discovered:
On September 01 2022 02:17 Tubesock wrote:
Rels Aside from my perfect read earlier, HF you even agreed in not so many words that Rels conversation with Jock was boring and useless. We mindmelded there.
What mindmeld are you talking about? Quote?
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On September 02 2022 15:00 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 11:28 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 09:47 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2022 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait why is Rels town in your opinion now? Game was kinda dead, he brought life to it. The amount of scummy LHF pushing for his wagon is above critical mass enough that I think mafia are just pushing there because it's a free place to hide currently. The voracity of people gunning for him doesn't equate to how people have been pushing him. I made some posts, Dandel made a case, Jock kind of interacted with it yet it's not those 3 names that are really clamouring for his head currently, it's just a weird vague consensus where these other people don't really explain why they want to vote rels. What does LHF mean? Low Hanging Fruit Or, easy mislynch targets
thanks
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On September 02 2022 15:28 CopCake wrote:I am on my phone but first you wanted to lynch me, then slam, then up against hf then vivax, then dandel????? Yes, it is true that I think it was ballsy, BALLSY to go against HF close to end of the day but there is this thing in my head that is bothering me, what if you are mafia with MZ and MZ is like powerful mafia and you are normal mafia? And you decided to sacrifice for the sake of the team. The wagon was already on you. And yes MZ is my #1 lynch, but the wagon is also on you and if you flip red MZ is pretty much mafia.
??? Why does "lynch me, then slam, then up against hf then vivax, then dandel" make me mafia? It should be the reasons for each thing that makes me mafia, not the fact that I scumread different people at different time?
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On September 03 2022 11:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now sleepytime for real.
still awake so late! Good night
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On September 02 2022 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 11:22 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Right Rels also parroted Koshi's stupid point about keeping Vivax around until D3. Don't think I've said that? It was more like, Vivax can't fake his town self that long, I think? But he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah. Vivax, you need to start playing please. ##Vote Vivax You definitely said that, maybe not exactly but it was at least heavily implied and only AFTER Koshi made this post (#481): Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 07:28 Koshi wrote:On August 31 2022 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you think Vivax is town?
So you think deconduo is town?
If so, why? Vivax hasn't said anything worth anything whole game. Basically he has made posts but the only game contributing post is his vote on MZ. He has been talking about outside game stuff. If Vivax is mafia Vivax talks either nothing or he talks about some stupid shit like stock markets.
Here Vivax talks like he is talking about stock market. Vivax makes weird posts and I cba to read or decipher it. Vivax ezlynch on day 2/3 when he is obvious mafia due to complete activity drop off. Then you say this (#543): Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 10:29 Rels wrote:
I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel. Then Koshi (#622): Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 16:23 Koshi wrote:
Lynching/shooting Vivax on D1/N1 is just fucking dumb. We all know the guy is an easy catch later on.
If he is still shitty on N2/D3. Kill him.
Atm he is active enough to leave him alone. After this post you said this (#772): Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 02:19 Rels wrote:
creating a second wagon so we have only wrong choices. Maybe to divert from Vivax yeah? There was a lot of talk about Vivax but no vote at the end
Thing is, I'm not sure because it was kinda shut down by Koshi and I, and I don't think Koshi is scum So you definitely parroted Koshi's point on vivax for D1, now you say "he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah".
Wait, I thought you problem was based on the fact that I wanted to keep Vivax alive until D3 regardless of how he acted. But it is actually about me parroting Koshi to I guess pocket him or whatever?
If it's the first, well, I already replied to you. Koshi said something like that, but not me (I agree that scum!Vivax is usually obvious late game, but that doesn't mean I didn't want him dead earlier if he continued being useless. I was very OK with Vivax being vig'd if he didn't start playing D1, which he didn't. I'm also pretty sure I said that I would vote him over most of the game).
If that is the last part that is bothering you, then here is where it comes from:
On August 31 2022 21:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
Also koshi has made a fairly convincing case for letting vivax live for now.
I am also giving rels some credit for that too, hence the vote for decon.
This is why I can claim "it was kinda shut down by Koshi and I". Because I know for sure Koshi & I influenced at least one player about Vivax during D1. This is not me lumping together with Koshi for no reason, this is based on something real.
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On September 02 2022 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Day 1: Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia
180ing on MZ
It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now. Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax. Vivax posts: Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around. Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax????
That's absolutely false. This is how I reacted to that post:
On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH?
So, that Vivax post is NOT why I currently think he might be town. It's the follow up conversation after that.
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On September 02 2022 19:33 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 18:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 02 2022 17:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 02 2022 09:47 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2022 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait why is Rels town in your opinion now? Game was kinda dead, he brought life to it. The amount of scummy LHF pushing for his wagon is above critical mass enough that I think mafia are just pushing there because it's a free place to hide currently. The voracity of people gunning for him doesn't equate to how people have been pushing him. I made some posts, Dandel made a case, Jock kind of interacted with it yet it's not those 3 names that are really clamouring for his head currently, it's just a weird vague consensus where these other people don't really explain why they want to vote rels. Can you explain who are those people exactly or are you referring to Dandel and or Jock who are definitely LHF? Actually this is a stupid question by me. Vivax and Cake, why are you / were you originally voting for Rels at the start of the day? Because people are more willing to lynch rels than MZ. I made a case and suddenly everyone ignored it except maybe jock and vivax and it is absolutly very frustating to have to explain this several times. I think both of them are mafia and like I said before, people seem to not want to lynch MZ.
And it is like the beggining of the day also, I dont understand why people take this like toooooooo seriously when you can change your vote when something happens.
I hate the bolded so much
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