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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 30 2022 20:40 GMT
#451
##Vote Zhipp
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 08:24 GMT
#624
I am awake, time to catch up.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 09:26 GMT
#625
On August 31 2022 05:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 05:40 CopCake wrote:
##Vote Zhipp

Your case on MZ is:
1) His reaction on Deco list was bad
2) He ignored one of your questions.

Not saying that is not enough. Just want to make sure.


He calls me mafia and doesn't vote me. He has made "strong" cases (deconduo's and mine), even acts as he has done them, yet not a single vote has been placed.

I have a hard time believing someone would take an early list that seriously, like when it is an obvious joke imo. He doesn't even care or play with the idea of a town deconduo and says he has read other people are convinced that he (deconduo) was just playing but he doesn't play with the idea of a "town deconduo".That is very closed minded.

His first post against me was "copcake posts fluffy stuff" but started to make a case or took it more seriously when someone else (Koshi) started to call me out too. Opportunistic. Even his "reasons" are parroting him "she asks too many questions but doesn't come back with reads"

He also points out the "bitterness" I got thanks to Koshi ( "this is not a question" "this a sentence") as a reason why I am mafia. Budding and pocketing Koshi.

Like for shit like "Tube called me out first of the decon joke" is a very very weak argument too.

And where is his read of "fluff jock spamming"?, I guess because people haven't made a read on him he can copy paste it and make a case.

I wanted to giving him the benefit of the doubt of "too bad to be mafia" earlier but before I went to bed I made up my mind when I was confronting him and he decided to ignore my post.

Now that I have compared his posts with the time of the thread sentiment, makes sense he was mimicking his case on me.


+ Show Spoiler +

On August 31 2022 02:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok starting where I left off.

Firstly, copcake fluff
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote:
Hi Rels, long time no see :D

On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote:
Hi Jock, long time no see.
On August 30 2022 03:49 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 03:48 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour.
Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^

haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p


Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015


Oh shit
On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth

Neo?
Is that you?

are we ever truly anybody?

Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.

Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote.
If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.

no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch

In what way?

It scares the sheep
"On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game"
(1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look

when ever have you cared about this?

always
I was just very good at hiding my feelings



Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist.
On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote:
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:

100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu


If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia.
On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote:
Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent.

On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote:
[image loading]





I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?


Are you saying you are not town?


On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


Are you talking of a past game or?


On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
lol?

did you skip HF post on purpose?

Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.

Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


You know his list is just a joke, right?

And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.

Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.

Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.

People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube

Neutral:
Rels
Matt

People who are not fun:
Rayn

People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ

Chezinu:
Chezinu

this list is unironically revolting
koshi in the fun category smh

your last list was better, you fell off


It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly.
Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.


I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.


Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human.
Do you have any reads yet?


I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.

I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.

You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.

I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.

I want more HF but overall Rels tho.

And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.

Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.

Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.

There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?

Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.


Absolutely


With this caveat:

On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.



I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.

Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.

Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.


So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"

It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.

copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!

Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


You know his list is just a joke, right?

And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.

Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.


Tube beats her to the punch here.

The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ax you somefink.

If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?


Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!

On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.

There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?

Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.

On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote:
But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.

I probably wrote that wrong.


These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.

I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.

Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.





Btw, whenever you are back Ziphh. Did you make something out of reading my past games?

It is a hell of a ride!







CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 09:26 GMT
#626
My vote feels correct.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 09:36 GMT
#628
On August 31 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake why do you call MZ Zhipp?


How is this relevant?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 13:04 GMT
#674
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 13:09 GMT
#676
On August 31 2022 22:05 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me


The mindset is pretty townie. He is sure about you but gives space for you to hunt mafia.
If he is wrong, then he is wrong, we all make mistakes as town.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 13:29 GMT
#688
On August 31 2022 22:14 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 22:09 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 22:05 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
[quote]
This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me


The mindset is pretty townie. He is sure about you but gives space for you to hunt mafia.
If he is wrong, then he is wrong, we all make mistakes as town.



'Here is a case against you - but no no you can't respond to all the faults in it. Go hunt scum'

It's protecting himself against any criticism against holes in the case, and either:
- I don't find scum and he pushes a lynch while sitting back happy
- I find scum - he takes credit for 'forcing me to go hunt'

Very convenient.


I think you are wrong there. Any respectable town wouldn't take credit for something like that.

Regardless if he "forces you" or not, as town we need to look for the scum. We share a same goal.


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 14:02 GMT
#691
I could change my vote for rels.

But I want to know what people think of my MZ case?

I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand.

I also wonder why chezinu voted me.

And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 17:28 GMT
#784
Tbh rels part of the reason why I consider you are mafia is your thinking progression, on the other hand now seeing that you went against HF, I consider that would be like a stupid mafia move.

I don't see mafia rels winning something out of it.

In mafia rels eyes, I would let town misslynch, maybe pocket and sheep someone, then disappear, then come back and be like "Oh sorry guys busy"

Tinfoiling atm.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 17:32 GMT
#798
Like, Rels went and picked one of the "Big vocal guys" and that doesn't compute unless MZ is mafia with him.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 17:44 GMT
#826
How is he saving decon?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 17:45 GMT
#829
I think no one wants to lynch dandelion.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 17:46 GMT
#831
On September 01 2022 02:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 02:44 CopCake wrote:
How is he saving decon?


The hell are you doing


I don't think Decon is mafia
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 17:48 GMT
#836
On September 01 2022 02:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 02:45 CopCake wrote:
I think no one wants to lynch dandelion.

MZ is also town


Why?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 17:59 GMT
#875
Fuck I was reading deconduo's filter, there's only one "bad" post in which he said he doesn't want to lynch anyone but other than that, I don't think he has done something that manipulative/mafia-esque.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 18:20 GMT
#891
I do feel bad, he is pretty funny and enjoyable to read.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 18:31 GMT
#901
On September 01 2022 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 02:28 CopCake wrote:
Tbh rels part of the reason why I consider you are mafia is your thinking progression, on the other hand now seeing that you went against HF, I consider that would be like a stupid mafia move.

I don't see mafia rels winning something out of it.

In mafia rels eyes, I would let town misslynch, maybe pocket and sheep someone, then disappear, then come back and be like "Oh sorry guys busy"

Tinfoiling atm.


TMI that I'm town possibly


It work both ways, there was a wagon... why would you change the direction?

And even if you were mafia and rels was your partner, it doesn't make sense to stage a fight when there was little time.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 18:36 GMT
#908
On September 01 2022 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote:
On September 01 2022 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On September 01 2022 02:28 CopCake wrote:
Tbh rels part of the reason why I consider you are mafia is your thinking progression, on the other hand now seeing that you went against HF, I consider that would be like a stupid mafia move.

I don't see mafia rels winning something out of it.

In mafia rels eyes, I would let town misslynch, maybe pocket and sheep someone, then disappear, then come back and be like "Oh sorry guys busy"

Tinfoiling atm.


TMI that I'm town possibly


It work both ways, there was a wagon... why would you change the direction?

And even if you were mafia and rels was your partner, it doesn't make sense to stage a fight when there was little time.


What wagon did who change direction on?

I think it makes sense to stage a fight, it's a good strategy and it was quite a while before deadline. Especially since I didn't even end up voting rels. Isn't that a bit weird to you?


MZ was leading.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 18:41 GMT
#913
That's the super adulthood life, but totally worth it.
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