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On September 11 2022 04:12 Alakaslam wrote:
HF there is a world where others carried shots and you are mafia.
The simplest explanation is really that neither of us is mafia.
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Holyflare i have a question to you, if you were mafia would you deliver night kills in this game and why?
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Alright, i am gonna make a bigger post but i need to sleep before work so i'm gonna do that in the morning when i get off work.
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I will clear this up first.
On September 11 2022 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia knows there's a jailkeeper or doctor in the game. Since I claimed blue that was roleblocked, mafia assume that's what happened (although still very likely they just have a rber anyway) and that there is a JKer. Rayn fits this scenario because he spent the whole beginning of the day saying I'm mafia for knowing I was RBd BUT he wouldn't wait for Mattchew to reveal whether he was doctor or JKer to determine whether his case was actually correct.
The only reason i spent time in this "fight" you are referring to, is because YOU YOURSELF literally said you were blocked by Mattchew!!!!! Like you literally did that when he was claiming doctor instead of jailkeeper, even before that. Yet you're accusing me of not waiting what Mattchew has to say??? When Mattchew revealed his doctor (important) was on Rayn, instead of backing down completely Rayn STILL believed his case on me had merit. THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF HE KNOWS IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN HIM THAT WAS SAVED BY A DOCTOR. Thus, it's extremely probable Rayn knew a JKer was in play and tried to preempt Mattchew saying he RBed me and fucked up.
This is bullshit where you only make things fit your narrative. Here's how things went:
- You claim parity cop with some checks
- You claim "jk i was roleblocked"
- Noone dies during the night.
- Mattchew claims he has probably saved you and/or you and me
- You literally make this post when we are arguing:
On September 08 2022 04:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 04:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
Just assume I'm town and it's pretty solved? Cop is just doing the same things I accused her for yesterday but to MZ instead lol. Your fakeclaim was pretty flawed and stupid so i am considering all options pardon me. My fake claim was exactly what happened if I was a town parity cop??? Blocked by Mattchew, same check on Rels/Cop is identical to what's exactly happening now. Just sub Rels for Mattchew.
So basically you are accusing me that i didn't wait for Mattchew's claim being either doctor or JK when you somehow KNOW you were blocked by Mattchew????? Like even if you are just assuming things and saying them as they were true somehow you treat me in different standards and i am not allowed to assume Mattchew is JK instead of doctor (which i didn't even do -- i was just simply referring to your at the time bullshit claim, regardless of it's right or wrong).
Again, you are the only one here who has demonstrated TMI if possible, yet you're accusing me of it.
That's bullshit Holyflare.
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Also saying when Mattchew revealed his saves that i didn't back down is 100% wrong because immediately after that i called you clear. So just stop with your lies already.
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Your case is basically based on that you said you're VT and you said after that you were roleblocked by Mattchew, before Mattchew had claimed.
And somehow i am mafia for questioning how can you know you were roleblocked if you're VT??????????
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It doesn't matter if you're lying about that or assuming that or if you are mafia knowing that, it's still at best a lie. And again, if there is any TMI here, YOU ARE LITERALLY THE ONLY ONE EXPRESSING ANY!
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Just to be certain Mattchew, you saved MZ and not me last night?
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On September 12 2022 08:25 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2022 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just to be certain Mattchew, you saved MZ and not me last night? I jailed you last night but with a likely mafia rb, i think that means nothing
Oh god why? Did you think i am mafia or what??
Do ypu realise there is a very simple reason why i am not mafia? I am never delivering a night kill N3 because of i am mafia i dont know if there is a tracker or not, and being tracked to two places is insta death. Like 95% there is a roleblocker and then that would be me. Also if i am mafia i know one of our shots hasnt gone through, because there is a mafia vigilante so one nk is missing. So there is a doctor or jk. Doctor cant play offensively, and i never assume jk plays offensively because they should not unless there is only one mafia which is not roleblocker. So if rayn is mafia with cake, cake always delivers the night kill on N3. Any player who has ever been mafia with me should attest to that.
If you think Cake hasnt shot / didnt shoot even N3 then i am definitely not mafia because that doesnt happen in a game where rayn is also mafia 100%.
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On September 12 2022 10:12 Mattchew wrote:
I have already explained my thought process
Well next night toure going to protect whoever you think is mafia and if there is no kill we lynch them.
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Explain what had happened in the game if Mattchew is mafia?
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On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote:
Let's see who's left.
I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more.
Chez lol. I've never been able to read him. Show nested quote +On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate  What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH? Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 12:27 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote:On September 03 2022 12:20 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck are you even doing with those posts
Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think. Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol No it‘s all whining Make a single point for Tube being town instead? Tube is scum Tube / Dandel / one of CC / Mattchew is where I'm at combined with Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 13:18 Rels wrote:
well, going to sleep. If you all want to make me happy, Dandel being the second wagon instead of me would be a perfect present
Not that Tube is not scum. But Dandel is too, and don't even care to play
Amending my list to Dandel / Tube / one of CC / Mattchew / Chez, who I totally forgot :p
Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote:
I could change my vote for rels.
But I want to know what people think of my MZ case?
I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand.
I also wonder why chezinu voted me.
And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J. ???? self aware partner vote Show nested quote +On September 03 2022 22:58 CopCake wrote:
Btw HF if you want my wisdom, I think Tubestock change feels more of a “player who is not 100%” sure of his reads, with the chaotic thread, seeing people talking fast and no one believing mz or rels so he just believed the rest of the town and hoped for the best. I have seen this before in games, I have been in that position, not specific eith tube. It is overwhelming.
So yeah, this feels more like town than mafia to me.
But like I said, who wants to lynch rels or mz?
Someone?
Nope.
And I had been to busy to actually put that much effort, when I was writting my case I got tired of copy pasting posts. Add the “no one pays attention” to that and it feels quite… I should care for other things.
At least reading slam is such a pleasure.
If you want my reads Rayn is town, Dandel is town (his case of rels if chef kiss, needs to be framed), Jock is town.
You and Slam are town.
Tube like 70% town, maybe 80%. If he made that move as mafia… it is just… bad.
Vivax and Chezinu I dont touch.
But I feel that Vivax is more town than Chezinu. They are in a league of their own.
Process of eliminations gives Mz, rels, matt.
After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez.
Like this is the only thing i can see "against" Chezinu. There is a lot more scummy shit on Slam and Vivax, both of them.
And this is shitty because it has nothing Chezinu has done. I feel bad even thinking this could be the correct answer. 
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On September 12 2022 13:01 Chezinu wrote:
Giving Slam innocent this round for helping town by realizing mathematically we should no lynch.
That's bullshit you don't no-lynch here.
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On September 02 2022 10:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Vivax, CopCake
Tubesock (2): Holyflare, Chezinu
Not Voting (7):Jockmcplop, Alakaslam, Rels, Raynpelikoneet, Mattchew, Tubesock, Meapak_Ziphh
With 3 votes, Rels is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Sep 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
On September 04 2022 02:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Tubesock (5): Holyflare, Chezinu, Vivax, Alakaslam, Raynpelikoneet, Mattchew, Rels
Rels(4): Dandel Ion, Vivax, CopCake, Tubesock, Vivax, Chezinu, Tubesock, Vivax
Mattchew (1): Vivax, Vivax, Tubesock, Meapak_ziphh
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Copcake
Vivax (0): Rels
Dandel Ion (0): Rels
Not Voting (1):Jockmcplop
With 5 votes, Tubesock is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Sep 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
On September 04 2022 03:02 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Tubesock (6): Holyflare, Chezinu, Vivax, Alakaslam, Raynpelikoneet, Mattchew, Rels, Chezinu
Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Vivax, CopCake, Tubesock, Vivax, Chezinu, Tubesock, Vivax
Mattchew (1): Vivax, Vivax, Tubesock, Meapak_ziphh
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Copcake
Vivax (0): Rels
Dandel Ion (0): Rels
Not Voting (1):Jockmcplop
With 6 votes, Tubesock is lynched!
Second on Tubesock, switches to Rels and later back to Tubesock.
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On September 12 2022 13:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2022 13:02 Holyflare wrote:On September 12 2022 12:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote:On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote:
Let's see who's left.
I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more.
Chez lol. I've never been able to read him. On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH? On September 03 2022 12:27 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote:On September 03 2022 12:20 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck are you even doing with those posts
Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think. Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol No it‘s all whining Make a single point for Tube being town instead? Tube is scum Tube / Dandel / one of CC / Mattchew is where I'm at combined with On September 03 2022 13:18 Rels wrote:
well, going to sleep. If you all want to make me happy, Dandel being the second wagon instead of me would be a perfect present
Not that Tube is not scum. But Dandel is too, and don't even care to play
Amending my list to Dandel / Tube / one of CC / Mattchew / Chez, who I totally forgot :p
On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote:
I could change my vote for rels.
But I want to know what people think of my MZ case?
I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand.
I also wonder why chezinu voted me.
And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J. ???? self aware partner vote On September 01 2022 15:14 CopCake wrote:
I feel betrayed by chezinu On September 03 2022 22:58 CopCake wrote:
Btw HF if you want my wisdom, I think Tubestock change feels more of a “player who is not 100%” sure of his reads, with the chaotic thread, seeing people talking fast and no one believing mz or rels so he just believed the rest of the town and hoped for the best. I have seen this before in games, I have been in that position, not specific eith tube. It is overwhelming.
So yeah, this feels more like town than mafia to me.
But like I said, who wants to lynch rels or mz?
Someone?
Nope.
And I had been to busy to actually put that much effort, when I was writting my case I got tired of copy pasting posts. Add the “no one pays attention” to that and it feels quite… I should care for other things.
At least reading slam is such a pleasure.
If you want my reads Rayn is town, Dandel is town (his case of rels if chef kiss, needs to be framed), Jock is town.
You and Slam are town.
Tube like 70% town, maybe 80%. If he made that move as mafia… it is just… bad.
Vivax and Chezinu I dont touch.
But I feel that Vivax is more town than Chezinu. They are in a league of their own.
Process of eliminations gives Mz, rels, matt.
After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez. Like this is the only thing i can see "against" Chezinu. There is a lot more scummy shit on Slam and Vivax, both of them. And this is shitty because it has nothing Chezinu has done. I feel bad even thinking this could be the correct answer. That's not true. Chez's vote history is flip floppy and shit. Vivax pointed out he tried to save Rels on d1 I believe by flip flopping between dec and Rels. He voted last on Rels when Rels was eliminated and I don't remember what he did on the tubesock day. Slams vote history is so bad lol nvm
I know and he orchestrated the deconduo lynch for ????
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It's true though that Chezinu voting for mafia partner early on D1 is not out of his mafia repertoire. He did that last game. Vivax and Chezinu also both voted for someone else over a cop checked mafia, although at least one of them has to be town so i guess townie can actually do that then....
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On August 31 2022 12:16 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
I just get the feeling that MZ has called Cop mafia and now everything Cop does is conf biased as them being mafia. I'm pretty sure when he pointed out the "here are the fluff posts I was talking about" he included things after the post where he mentioned it.
I also still get the feeling it's a deep bus lol because his read on dec (while not really making much sense and actually is just a huge hedge) is a lot more nuanced and fluent comparatively.
Matt looks great, I agree that Tube's post is a big shrug. It's a lot of half hearted words that seem more convincing in tone than the words that are written on the page. The rayn read (Matt's read) is kind of a stretch IMO, at least the activity bit. Activity reads are mediocre and I don't think it's in any way indicative that Rayn's enthusiasm/participation has dropped because I think he'd be keen as mafia to contribute and appear active just as much as he would be as town.
Now that I know what Rayn actually meant with his post and he wasn't defending Koshi, it did trend slightly down and I think I agree with the rest of Matt's points (a lot of names thrown out etc).
Top read of the game from my perspective currently.
So here is where we start where Slam agrees with HF's read. I don't know which read but let's see. HF says:
- MZ mafia (bus on Cake?)
- Matt town
- Tube maybe mafia
- Rayn null (town?)
The people HF is calling mafia here (even remotely) are MZ, Tube and perhaps Cake. Later Slam does this:
On August 31 2022 12:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Voted M_Z to be on bandwagon for further pressure and because I do not think Rels is maf
then:
On September 01 2022 01:44 Alakaslam wrote:
Sufficiently that I vote rels
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On September 01 2022 02:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Fuckingnhell I am certain now rels is town. Not voting him out of policy.
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On September 01 2022 02:27 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 02:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man the amount of people who are accepting poor town play bc it's either "just joking" or "they're easy to meta read later" is really frustrating.
Vivax is absolutely not worth keeping around, especially compared to rels.
Decon can't even pay attention to the thread. Either of these two are better votes than rels. I can get behind Vivax as well. Let's do it
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On September 01 2022 02:31 Alakaslam wrote:
BECAUSE HE IS MORE LIKELY THAN RELS OR MZ TO BE MAFIA
THOUGH HE PROLLY ISNT
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On September 01 2022 02:31 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:On September 01 2022 02:27 Alakaslam wrote:On September 01 2022 02:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man the amount of people who are accepting poor town play bc it's either "just joking" or "they're easy to meta read later" is really frustrating.
Vivax is absolutely not worth keeping around, especially compared to rels.
Decon can't even pay attention to the thread. Either of these two are better votes than rels. I can get behind Vivax as well. Let's do it Why not decon? No-one seems to be able to answer me about it. Its super frustrating like I'm just being ignored. I coudl take or leave a vivax vote, but I'm far more inclined to vote rels, and even more so decon. Hang on: On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
More decon
There's zero attempt to progress his reads throughout the day.
He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.
But all I get from his filter is that he's interested in both MZ and holyflare without actually attempting to go any further than that.
##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Deconduo
For someone who has posted a fair amount, there's a startling lack of actual content.
Read his filter. Tell me I'm wrong. I could do decon is there traction? MZ what do you think, Decon?
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On September 01 2022 02:32 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2022 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 01 2022 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:On September 01 2022 02:27 Alakaslam wrote:On September 01 2022 02:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man the amount of people who are accepting poor town play bc it's either "just joking" or "they're easy to meta read later" is really frustrating.
Vivax is absolutely not worth keeping around, especially compared to rels.
Decon can't even pay attention to the thread. Either of these two are better votes than rels. I can get behind Vivax as well. Let's do it Why not decon? No-one seems to be able to answer me about it. Its super frustrating like I'm just being ignored. I coudl take or leave a vivax vote, but I'm far more inclined to vote rels, and even more so decon. Hang on: On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
More decon
There's zero attempt to progress his reads throughout the day.
He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.
But all I get from his filter is that he's interested in both MZ and holyflare without actually attempting to go any further than that.
##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Deconduo
For someone who has posted a fair amount, there's a startling lack of actual content.
Read his filter. Tell me I'm wrong. I would vote decon in a heartbeat over rels. We do it ##Decon
I don't see any reasoning for any of this, ever. But never he ends up considering any of those "tip top read(s)" HF posted earlier, unless he thinks it's a top notch read to call rayn null or Matt town.
Basically from what i get from the first post is that Slam agrees with HF's read on MZ. Then Rels becomes a counter-wagon to MZ, Slam moves there quickly just to get an idea that Rels is 100% town not long after. Then he starts finding a lynch. Never consider Tubesock here (which could be the "good read" HF posted), never considers Cake here, but instead Vivax, and finally he starts a wagon on deconduo WITH the person i can only assume he has agreed is likely mafia from the HF post he agreed with.
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Holy shit Chezinu's vote history is so bad also. :D
All votes against mafia when it doesn't (yet) matter and when it does just votes for someone else. Like literally every day. ^^
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On September 12 2022 13:33 Chezinu wrote:
Rayn, any words on my solid case against you? Or are you not frustrated?
no and no, idont really care about what you say about me right now. i'm trying to find mafia, you can try to lynch me if you want to.
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Nah Vivax' D2 is actually very townie although he called all mafia town.
Slam or Chezinu it is.
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