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On January 16 2021 00:22 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2021 22:04 Vivax wrote: Hell even Slam claimed to have retracted his TR.
I‘m quite sure I didn‘t choose someone the majority wouldn‘t want lynched so your post is outlandish. That is exactly why there is so much WIFOM now though dude. You’re a 3P claim. There is no guarantee that there is 3P. I have CAUGHT DANDEL. This shit couldn’t wait for tomorrow? Oh, of course not- you have to save your scum mate!
Yeah seriously. Btw, what kind of 3p has a dueling ability at all? That doesn't make any sense lmao.
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On January 16 2021 00:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean at least the tension is real here now We still almost certainly all agree to hit obi and win or lose based on that, and it'll be exciting
If he used it on dandel like a good boy we would have all afked until tomorrow
Uh. No? I'm not the one saving confirmed mafia here lmao.
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I still kind of don't really think it's TT. Why does TT claim cop here if he's mafia? I think he also falls into the same category I do where people just kind of constantly throw his name down and expect him to be mafia, and then are ultimately surprised when he doesn't flip mafia.
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I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning.
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I do think scum just loses here if we lynch Vivax. A claimed 3p protecting confirmed scum on mylo is legitimately awful and is really just grounds for a lynch. I don't understand why he doesn't have like 10 million votes rn. Why 3p has a dueling ability, which is practically against their wincon, I do not know.
I think the real damning thing here is that Vivax is just so much smarter than this as town. I think he's actually one of the few people who can legitimately townread me while a large number of people really struggle with that and he just kind of wrote me off based on something that's actually really easily explained.
Even if he had some kind of dueling ability as 3p, I feel like he'd defer way more towards town rather than latching on to some gimmicky nonsense.
Like I want people to legitimately write out why they think I'm scum so I can talk to them about it. Even if I'm wrong on someone here I'm sure I can figure it out, but this whole constantly throw my name down and that makes me scum even though it's not backed by anything is just bad and needs to be rethought.
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On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning. ??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel.
I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk. I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that.
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On January 16 2021 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2021 00:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning. ??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel. I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk. I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that. I literally said I have no reason to scumread you but poe.
That's nice and all but I'm not mafia, so obviously there's some kind of issue somewhere that needs to be addressed.
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On January 16 2021 01:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2021 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 16 2021 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:On January 16 2021 00:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning. ??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel. I may be overstating it but I kind feel like you may be stuck on me, not dandel, though maybe I'm reading into thread sentiment too much and thinking the world is against me. Idk. I'm fine with dandel being dead as well and have no issue with you thinking that. I literally said I have no reason to scumread you but poe. That's nice and all but I'm not mafia, so obviously there's some kind of issue somewhere that needs to be addressed. Well, help me out then.
Sure. Just ftr, your poe list is narrowed down to me and TT because you think waveu is confirmed town, correct?
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My role is pretty straightforward but meh. I was thinking something about wave but now that I'm pressed I actually don't think as strongly about it since I think I may have misread something.
Waveu explain to me how your role works one more time just for lulz?
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I was actually sort of under the impression that you killed HF last night but, again, I think that might be because I misread something. Do you have the ability to redirect actions?
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I didn't actually visit anyone ever. I don't think me targeting someone with things is a visit during dayphase.
That's actually a stupid question now that I think about it. I thought Wave killed HF with the QT power but that doesn't make any sense now that I'm forced to type it out, unless he has the ability to redirect roles as well which seems broken.
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I'm aware I may need to claim to live here which is fine - I think Vivax getting lynched is pretty much the most important thing that's going to happen this game and I think the people pushing me (either through PoE or w/e nonsense) need to rethink things.
Like...Vivax saved confirmed scum to duel me based on one post from n0. Why does 3p have a dueling ability? Use your brains.
There's a third scum in this game that I'm having trouble finding and work starts in 15 minutes, so I doubt I'll be able to take a second look until tonight. I guess I have to look into TT again based on that fact and I put that off because I wanted to take his claim at face value.
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On January 16 2021 02:00 WaveofShadow wrote: He explained why he has a dueling ability And it makes sense
Also for the record dandel was not confirmed scum Its a small detail
Problem here is my buddeh, you've given me no reason to rethink anything. The only time you have been present and put forth effort this game is when you are perceived to be under the potential chopping block. Your attempts to figure out this game, while at first glance appear earnest, unfortunately due to the number of confirmations leaves you with very few options, so it really just leaves you grasping at straws.
At some point maybe I CBA to look through your filter but I wonder how much you had to say about Vivax before this.
I tried to lynch Vivax d1 and people said that was bad. Actually I think people have shot me down pretty much any time I tried to do anything.
I get that my efforts were somewhat meh early on, especially during day 2, but the reality of it is that everything I said about Vivax, ESPECIALLY TODAY, is true, and I think people are discounting that shockeyy never really gave anyone much of anything.
Your points about me not trying really aren't relevant since I was happy with shockeyy being lynched and I also voted GB, even though both votes wound up being bad.
Dandel is most definitely confirmed scum at this point and I don't see how you can say that's not really the case anymore, especially since Vivax dueled me way after the fact?
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I also think I'm pretty decent at finding scum in the people who attack me. Especially since I'm such a frequent target most of the time - I think I have a lot of experience in this scenario so I think taking my word here might be worth more than you think.
I get the effort point but that really only seems to apply on day 2, where shockeyy was being lynched, but I was okay with that so what's the point of overdoing stuff when I already have what I want?
Plus, I have given you reasons as to why Vivax is mafia - you can't just say "you didn't try hard enough" when most of those reasons came at pretty much the only time he did anything, and I don't see anyone actually disputing the points that I raised.
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On January 16 2021 02:29 ghostofconversion wrote: I mean I can see a world where 3P!Vivax sees 0 votes on Dandel, thinks town is going to waffle and lose the game, rereads the thread and forces a vote between him and his scummiest read, where he does not believe Slam's claim and Dandel is a town player with reverse KP
I don't see a world where M!Vivax decides to use his power before I'm dead and with 24+ hours to go to force a lynch between him and +1. The best use of this power is to do it when I'm dead, and slam it on himself and another person with a smaller amount of time to discuss to try and force a mislynch. M!Vivax, if he's smart, would have waited to confirm my nuke is actually real to see if I get removed from the game, then try to run down the clock with disorganized town to force the MYLO with a smaller amount of time left
I think everyone has written you off as dead already, and I think basing your logic on someone thinking you won't be dead is, uh, not good.
I also get the planning ideas but, really, analyze what he's actually doing rather than the plan behind it because that's the most important part - you can't just side with someone when they're objectively scummy and doing objectively scummy and antitown things "because it's a bad idea as mafia."
The power simply shouldn't have been used and the fact that he just did it without anyone's explicit agreement while saving confirmed mafia on what is essentially mylo should be ringing serious alarm bells.
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Honestly I think the onus is on you to make the argument that 3p would do the same thing, especially since he would theoretically have even less of a reason to do the thing you're saying he would do.
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On January 16 2021 05:31 justanothertownie wrote: What a coward.
lol Kind of glad he's dead but that's for purely greedy reasons.
Go vote Vivax plx.
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On January 16 2021 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote:Okay honestly very good role writing there it trolls exactly until nobody believes you anymore when you get serious. + Show Spoiler +rip convo Guess we'll go flip coins on whether Vivax chose well, it's convenient when somebody else has to do the work for you and nothing you do matters ##Vote: Obiwanshinobi
lol
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Idk if there's really much more I can say about the current duel - I don't understand how Vivax doesn't have like 29806472 votes but it's been done to death at this point and I kinda don't really know what else to say now?
I am being voted by confirmed mafia so if that doesn't really sway anyone I don't know what will.
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On January 16 2021 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2021 06:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 16 2021 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:On December 03 2020 08:37 Hapahauli wrote:
While I encourage roleplaying, there are anti-claim mechanics in this game. While players are allowed to post the contents of their role PM's and disclose their "identities", think very carefully before claiming your role-name or powers.
Oh boy look at all the ways we've been punished thus far And about to lose I won't claim my role name. But I guess I can tell you the rest. I am basically VT now if I am not mistaken. I can fake nuke once per day and if I do that I can pardon someone once per game. But the pardon only works until MYLO/Lylo. So if we are in MYLO now I am powerless except for fake nukes. I think a pardoner is an extremely anti town role and I would basically never use it. I could have in Shockey case but I thought he was mafia and imagine me pardoning Shockey and we still mislynch. Then the game is truly fucked.
I like how Jat has a role that can really torpedo a ton of stuff and he doesn't just use it to torpedo a bunch of stuff like Vivax did. Take notes - this is how town plays.
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